Chg91 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I would love it soon as well lol. I just want an updated roster You can always go through the update the UFC (or whatever company you wish to play as) roster yourself. It's really not that hard, and shouldn't take longer than 15 minutes depending on whether or not you want to also tweak some stats and all that. =P And since we're griping about stats here, apparently: Velasquez and Dos Santos aren't quite as dominant as I would expect. Overeem, Frankie Edgar and Hioki could use a little tweaking, as well, though I forget the specifics since I went through and changed a lot of these stats myself the last time I "updated" WM4. Zombie Nog and Lesnar are too dominant. As in, they almost always end up in the top 3 of my division, and Lesnar regularly dismantles Cain and JDS like it ain't no thang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldenvdk Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Mike Russow is a FREAK in my game, Carwin and Dos Santos are useless, Dennis Siver needs to be revamped, Yea Cruz sucks in it. And I also agree with the Diaz comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 You can always go through the update the UFC (or whatever company you wish to play as) roster yourself. It's really not that hard, and shouldn't take longer than 15 minutes depending on whether or not you want to also tweak some stats and all that. =P I do that already, but it takes much longer than 15 minutes and it's nowhere near as good as a complete update. Moving people around, adjusting win/loss, adding fight histories, and adjusting stats alone takes awhile. Then you throw in adding new people who often times I haven't seen before, adjusting contracts/popularity if you want to be ambitious. I do not envy Tag doing all that and more alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chg91 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I do that already, but it takes much longer than 15 minutes and it's nowhere near as good as a complete update. Moving people around, adjusting win/loss, adding fight histories, and adjusting stats alone takes awhile. Then you throw in adding new people who often times I haven't seen before, adjusting contracts/popularity if you want to be ambitious. I do not envy Tag doing all that and more alone. I work at crack speeds, dawg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I work at crack speeds, dawg. Right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedsRule Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I work at crack speeds, dawg. Do it for us then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbritt Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 How do I install the Modern warriors 4 database? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapDaddy Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Follow the Install a Mod guide included in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 It has probably already been touched on but fighter's name value needs work it's rare if never you get fans giving you good, great feedback etc with UFC for main event/co-main events. Maybe it's a company popularity thing aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Mine tend to do alright with fan feedback. I mean, I don't deny fighter popularity needs work (neither does Tag, he's said numerous times it's a work in progress), but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbritt Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Follow the Install a Mod guide included in the game. Can I only install the mod with the full version? I have the trial version currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedsRule Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Can I only install the mod with the full version? I have the trial version currently. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chg91 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Mine tend to do alright with fan feedback. I mean, I don't deny fighter popularity needs work (neither does Tag, he's said numerous times it's a work in progress), but still. I prefer MW's to TOS's popularity system, since TOS considers any match between a pair of middling fighters worthy of main eventing your biggest of shows. I understand why TOS went the way they did, though, I just simply prefer MW's system of exclusively; it seems more realistic to me - the fighters need to be big stars (high level national/low level international at least IIRC) and coming off of a victory, which is more or the less as it is in real life. Speaking of TOS, what happened? They haven't had an update in months, have they? Seems to me like we as a community should come together and start coming out with a data set of our own; seems unfair for everybody to have to rely on Tag. Anybody interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I'd be interested, but the time it'd take to come up with anything near what TOS or MW have done from scratch would be enormous and WMMA4 would likely be out before I reached a point I deemed acceptable. I've toyed with the idea a few times, but modding this game is a *lot* of work. I feel like if you really want to get a solid update going you're never going to have time to actually play outside of testing. I'm also kind of anti-team in this instance. You end up with too many guys stepping on each others' toes and even if they don't, stats will be out of whack simply because they're coming from different people. I'm too much of a perfectionist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chg91 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I'm also kind of anti-team in this instance. You end up with too many guys stepping on each others' toes and even if they don't, stats will be out of whack simply because they're coming from different people. I'm too much of a perfectionist. Yeah, that'll definitely be an issue, but I'm hopeful that with continued iterations, everything will eventually coalesce into using similar metrics as long as whoever is behind the updates keep the lines of communication open and mod on good faith. I just think it's a little ridiculous that the WMMA mod scene is so dire, when games like TEW have basically every possible scenario you can think of available to be played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 It's a smaller niche. TEW has a much longer history, dating back to the EW games with EWR having a particularly huge community. Also, it's important to note that at last check, there may be a lot of scenarios out there but most of them are awful. I think with WMMA, you have a smaller fan base and the vast majority of those are UFC/Strikeforce fans, maybe a decent number follow Bellator. In order to create a solid MMA mod, you kind of have to follow everything. Getting those stats right seems much more important in regards to MMA than pro wrestling. Also, in TEW you don't have to update records, fight histories, and momentum for every wrestler on an update-to-update basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 The MW and ToS guys do a great job they really do go deep into the MMA world. I'm big on MMA and follow as much as possible but i come across new fighters all the time thanks to MW and ToS. But it does seem that this versions mod section is much less active than wmma2 was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 WMMA1 had very frequent mods. WMMA2 was more complicated so mods were less frequent. As a result, a lot of people who play RW mods only stopped playing the game entirely. WMMA3 was even more complicated, and I think the effect has been just as bad. I'd be willing to bet a lot of WMMA1 fans don't even know there is a WMMA3 out, or just don't care. The better and more comprehensive the game gets, the more work it's going to take to get mods out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chg91 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I think with WMMA, you have a smaller fan base and the vast majority of those are UFC/Strikeforce fans, maybe a decent number follow Bellator. In order to create a solid MMA mod, you kind of have to follow everything. Getting those stats right seems much more important in regards to MMA than pro wrestling. Also, in TEW you don't have to update records, fight histories, and momentum for every wrestler on an update-to-update basis. I like to think I have a pretty good grasp on MMA outside of ZUFFA/Bellator, which is kind of why I'm throwing my hat in if anybody else is willing to come and help create a new mod. I could handle a good chunk of MFC, DREAM, KOTC, Tapachi, M-1, Shark Fights, BAMMA, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jipper16 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 WMMA1 had very frequent mods. WMMA2 was more complicated so mods were less frequent. As a result, a lot of people who play RW mods only stopped playing the game entirely. WMMA3 was even more complicated, and I think the effect has been just as bad. I'd be willing to bet a lot of WMMA1 fans don't even know there is a WMMA3 out, or just don't care. The better and more comprehensive the game gets, the more work it's going to take to get mods out. While I agree with everything you said I also have to say that I hope that any future WMMA games continue to be more in depth to improve game quality. The game has room for improvement and instead of being simplified to increase interest I think that the mod maker should be the only thing that's made easy or simplified and that the game itself continues to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chg91 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 While I agree with everything you said I also have to say that I hope that any future WMMA games continue to be more in depth to improve game quality. The game has room for improvement and instead of being simplified to increase interest I think that the mod maker should be the only thing that's made easy or simplified and that the game itself continues to grow. How does one simplify the mod maker without simplifying the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javier_83 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 this pack includes pics?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 While I agree with everything you said I also have to say that I hope that any future WMMA games continue to be more in depth to improve game quality. The game has room for improvement and instead of being simplified to increase interest I think that the mod maker should be the only thing that's made easy or simplified and that the game itself continues to grow. That wasn't a criticism of the game or an expression of my desire to simplify it. That's just a fact about mod making, and yeah, there's no way to simplify the mod maker more than it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javier_83 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 i saw that you add "Combate Extremo" Logo, i will ad that promotion to the game!! i went to 4 events of that promotion!! they have good fighters here in Mexico!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Just guess work but with Hendo vs Fedor next saturday i have a feeling we will see a update after that event or even after UFC 133 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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