Inky The Squid Boy Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Im about the have the money in the bank PPV and will run corresponding angles from that and I'm faced with a dilemma I've often wondered about previously. How does one handle the eventual title switch? Ideally I want the new champ to cash in at the climax of a big event but I'm worried that if I simply run an angle and switch the belt manually the title will lose prestige and/or the new champion will lose a lot of impact. Alternatively if I run an angle where he cashes in against a weakened champ and then a quicky title change match at a PPV's climax I'm worried it'll sink my card Knowing other people have played RL mods as WWE I'm curious as to how they handled it and what the results of that were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieCornell Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 I held New years resolution 2006 as it happened IRL. EC was an 86, and Edge beating Cena in 4 mins was a 80. All the other matches on the card where below 78, and the show was rated an 84. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio3060 Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Run the match as the second to last match, that way if the match is rated low, it will not sink your card because you still have a main event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Savant Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Use the all out note. Assign your best road agent. Make sure both guys have great momentum. Assuming they're both over you should be fine. Won't be your best PPV of the year, but you can survive one below average PPV for storyline purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 And a neat little trick to avoid the match length penalty... change your expected match lengths, even if it's just for the one event, so that they are all 5 minutes. Some people do this by default but they're generally just looking to avoid penalties rather than playing to the spirit of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRodzen Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31279" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And a neat little trick to avoid the match length penalty... change your expected match lengths, even if it's just for the one event, so that they are all 5 minutes. Some people do this by default but they're generally just looking to avoid penalties rather than playing to the spirit of the game. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've had mine set to 5 minutes ever since MAW became WCW. Reason being is because the product took an entertainment-style turn and my matches are always varying in length because of it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungner Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 So, if you set the default to being 5 minutes for all, you won't get penalties even if your main event goes 12 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest codey Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Nope, 5 minutes is the minimum expected match time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky The Squid Boy Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 <p>I refuse to alter the match lengths. No short cuts. The first reply more or less sealed the deal but further input is still appreciated</p><p> </p><p> Good thinking by Scorpio though, that hadn't occurred to me</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMegaFish Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 <p>Run an angle where the person cashes it in, and then run a short match for it.</p><p> </p><p> Yeah, the match will get hit for length, but if everything else works in favor, then you did alright. Nobody is going to call those short matches where the winner cashes in A or A* classics IRL anyway.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyb Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Inky The Squid Boy" data-cite="Inky The Squid Boy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31279" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Ideally I want the new champ to cash in at the climax of a big event but I'm worried that if I simply run an angle and switch the belt manually the title will lose prestige and/or the new champion will lose a lot of impact.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is what I do. It enables the cashing in to be a big/highly-rated moment, as it can be if done right, and makes the overall show rating more realistic than one which is bombed by a 'main event' which isn't really the main event, or even a proper match on the card. Moreover, if that knocks the title prestige, I think it's quite realistic. It takes me a while to really think of someone who cheaply cashed in money in the bank as a proper champion, which would be reflected by the title being built back up in prestige via title defences.</p><p> </p><p> Think of the Miz, I don't think he or the belt held that much prestige to begin with, but after he defended it a few times he began to be taken more seriously.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="tommyb" data-cite="tommyb" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31279" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is what I do. It enables the cashing in to be a big/highly-rated moment, as it can be if done right, and makes the overall show rating more realistic than one which is bombed by a 'main event' which isn't really the main event, or even a proper match on the card. Moreover, if that knocks the title prestige, I think it's quite realistic. It takes me a while to really think of someone who cheaply cashed in money in the bank as a proper champion, which would be reflected by the title being built back up in prestige via title defences.<p> </p><p> Think of the Miz, I don't think he or the belt held that much prestige to begin with, but after he defended it a few times he began to be taken more seriously.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That actually makes a lot of sense. I have never thought of it that way.</p><p> </p><p> The first (and only so far) time I have done it I had the champion actually give a good fight back, all though it wasnt your typical MITB cash in. Since it was my event where tag teams generally main event, I had Black Cobra (Duane Stone) defend his belt in the match straight before the co-main event where he went to a time limit draw with Buddy Garner. Then the "Main Event" (actually held Co-Main, but was Kayfabe meant to be the Main event) Tag Match. After the tag match Marc DuBois came down to the ring to cash in his contract saying that, although he was tempted to cash in earlier, he waited to get the spotlight of being main event. Black Cobra then came out, and despite being tired gave DuBois a good match before finally being beaten.</p><p> </p><p> This let Black Cobra escape with his dignity, DuBois to get the title, and me to get a good Main Event out of the match (it was Match of the Night).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky The Squid Boy Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="tommyb" data-cite="tommyb" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31279" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is what I do. It enables the cashing in to be a big/highly-rated moment, as it can be if done right, and makes the overall show rating more realistic than one which is bombed by a 'main event' which isn't really the main event, or even a proper match on the card. Moreover, if that knocks the title prestige, I think it's quite realistic. It takes me a while to really think of someone who cheaply cashed in money in the bank as a proper champion, which would be reflected by the title being built back up in prestige via title defences.<p> </p><p> Think of the Miz, I don't think he or the belt held that much prestige to begin with, but after he defended it a few times he began to be taken more seriously.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's a pretty sound argument all round</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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