Tomato Can Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Three questions: 1. Does it "count" as being "on" a show if you just include a maineventer in a "hype video" or will he be mad that he was left off the show? 2. If I have two shows running, does maineventer and uppermid guys have to be on both shows or is being on one of the shows good enough to not have them complaining about being left off of a show? 3. If I have a brand split and have them assigned to one brand, do they complain if they are not on the other brands show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 3. If I have a brand split and have them assigned to one brand, do they complain if they are not on the other brands show? They will not complain about not being on the opposite brands show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Wolf Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Three questions: 1. Does it "count" as being "on" a show if you just include a maineventer in a "hype video" or will he be mad that he was left off the show? I believe it does not count as being used on the show. They need to be on screen. Use some angles with guys set as Not Rated Support (Being in the room when one big superstar checks on another who was injured, helping separate two big superstars who are brawling. Coming out at the end of the show to check on an injured worker attacked in the last segment.) This where they'll be seen but it doesn't matter that they're actually there so they're not rated. I do this a lot with my midcard and lower midcard guys who aren't doing anything. 2. If I have two shows running, does maineventer and uppermid guys have to be on both shows or is being on one of the shows good enough to not have them complaining about being left off of a show? A main eventer (depending on personality) wants to be on every other show. An upper midcarder (depending on personality) once two be on every third show. So if they are unbranded shows they'll want to be on each of those shows. 3. If I have a brand split and have them assigned to one brand, do they complain if they are not on the other brands show? If they are branded the same rules apply but only to the branded show. So Cena could be on RAW one week and than off RAW the next and then back on RAW the third week and he probably won't complain. And he doesn't care whether he's on Smackdown or not cause its not his brand. But you can temporarily turn of brands when booking the show if you'd like to use a guy from another brand and then make sure to turn it back on before actually running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmor Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 This is also very much influenced by the worker's personality. I have had a lower midcarder, I believe it was Teddy Hart, complain about being left off two shows. And yes, Apu is right with his reply to 1. ... guys have to be "on screen" during the angle so that it counts. How do you guys think about this actually. Is a guy in a pre-taped video not actually ON screen, cause he is on display in fact. Or should on screen only and solely apply to not pre-taped backstage segments and the likes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky The Squid Boy Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 <p>I always thought pre-taped/hype/video/whatever bits should count as on-screen. Some should, anyway. Maybe not the hype bits but some angles for sure</p><p> </p><p> Countless shows in RL WWE the Undertaker has made his presence felt without ever being near the arena (lights going out, video segments and whatnot). He's still getting screen time and advancing plots and so forth.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Wolf Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Harmor" data-cite="Harmor" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31316" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is also very much influenced by the worker's personality. I have had a lower midcarder, I believe it was Teddy Hart, complain about being left off two shows. And yes, Apu is right with his reply to 1. ... guys have to be "on screen" during the angle so that it counts.<p> </p><p> How do you guys think about this actually. Is a guy in a pre-taped video not actually ON screen, cause he is on display in fact. Or should on screen only and solely apply to not pre-taped backstage segments and the likes?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> In my opinion pre taped backstage segments are On Screen. Hype videos which are just clips of older matches and segments are not On Screen. Being talked about but not present in an angle is not On Screen.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Can Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 Thanks so much for the help! This will def help me in planning shows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Savant Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 And don't forget: If your show is a B-Show nobody will ever complain about being left off of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I once left a main eventer off 3 shows. Didn't make a peep. He was very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Apupunchau@optonline" data-cite="Apupunchau@optonline" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31316" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In my opinion pre taped backstage segments are On Screen. Hype videos which are just clips of older matches and segments are not On Screen. Being talked about but not present in an angle is not On Screen.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's how I've always played it. Anything which involves simply reusing existing footage counts as off-screen. Any 'extra work' a worker has to do to actually create new content, whether it's pre-taped or not, should count as on-screen IMO.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="D-Lyrium" data-cite="D-Lyrium" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31316" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's how I've always played it. Anything which involves simply reusing existing footage counts as off-screen. Any 'extra work' a worker has to do to actually create new content, whether it's pre-taped or not, should count as on-screen IMO.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Agreed, that's how I always play it too. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> As for the topic, I've always been under the impression (though never checked it) that workers will always have a chance of getting upset for missing a show if it's their brand, an "A" show and they aren't on it. As far as I can tell the chance is modified based on their push and personality, with higher pushes and more negative personalities being more likely to be upset than lower pushes and positive personalities.</p><p> </p><p> The test is fairly simple... book a show, leave people off it. Clone the save and then run the show in each save. If different people are unhappy each time then I'm probably closest to being right... if it's the same people then the current school of thought is probably right. If anyone wants to prove me wrong, that would be helpful. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31316" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As for the topic, I've always been under the impression (though never checked it) that workers will always have a chance of getting upset for missing a show if it's their brand, an "A" show and they aren't on it. As far as I can tell the chance is modified based on their push and personality, with higher pushes and more negative personalities being more likely to be upset than lower pushes and positive personalities.<p> </p><p> The test is fairly simple... book a show, leave people off it. Clone the save and then run the show in each save. If different people are unhappy each time then I'm probably closest to being right... if it's the same people then the current school of thought is probably right. If anyone wants to prove me wrong, that would be helpful. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've always assumed this was true, also. To the extent that I thought it was in the help file (I checked, it's not ¬_¬). The best scenario for testing it is MAW, where you've got main event nice guy American Patriot (who I've never seen complain about anything) and upper midcard... well, we all know what Jay Chord is like... </p><p> Contrast them with Randy Maxx, who'd probably do the job for a blow-up doll and be thankful for the experience, and his midcard polar-opposite Bret Starr...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidenhoek Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Contrast them with Randy Maxx, who'd probably do the job for a blow-up doll and be thankful for the experience, Yoshihiko > you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Apupunchau@optonline" data-cite="Apupunchau@optonline" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31316" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>But you can temporarily turn of brands when booking the show if you'd like to use a guy from another brand and then <strong>make sure to turn it back on before actually running the show</strong>.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I use this feature a lot, and I'd always had the impression that making a show brand-free during the booking section was a free action - workers wouldn't care if they were on it or not so long as it's a brand-specific show generally.</p><p> </p><p> However, this could explain a few unhappy workers I've had. Can anyone confirm that it needs to be switched back to Brands: On every time?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedSuperman Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I always thought that a video counted as being on the show, if you put someone in a video and then check the analyst he will be shown as had been used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Inky The Squid Boy" data-cite="Inky The Squid Boy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31316" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I always thought pre-taped/hype/video/whatever bits should count as on-screen. Some should, anyway. Maybe not the hype bits but some angles for sure<p> </p><p> Countless shows in RL WWE the Undertaker has made his presence felt without ever being near the arena (lights going out, video segments and whatnot). He's still getting screen time and advancing plots and so forth.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Undertaker isn't a Main Eventer though in TEW terms. He is an Occasional Wrestler.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigas Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31316" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Undertaker isn't a Main Eventer though in TEW terms. He is an Occasional Wrestler.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Does this make a difference with whether or not they get mad if they arent on screen? Id imagine not, since managers get mad being left off screen.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="James Casey" data-cite="James Casey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31316" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I use this feature a lot, and I'd always had the impression that making a show brand-free during the booking section was a free action - workers wouldn't care if they were on it or not so long as it's a brand-specific show generally.<p> </p><p> However, this could explain a few unhappy workers I've had. Can anyone confirm that it needs to be switched back to Brands: On every time?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Pretty sure (but not 100% certain) that it doesn't matter if you toggle the brands on/off. Workers on the brand want to be used, workers not on it should never expect to be used.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PoisonedSuperman" data-cite="PoisonedSuperman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31316" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I always thought that a video counted as being on the show, if you put someone in a video and then check the analyst he will be shown as had been used.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The analysis screen shows whether you have done something with someone or not... but if you aren't actually having someone do something new (appearing on screen in some form) then they aren't being paid... so they're going to become unhappy.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31316" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Undertaker isn't a Main Eventer though in TEW terms. He is an Occasional Wrestler.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gigas" data-cite="Gigas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31316" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does this make a difference with whether or not they get mad if they arent on screen? Id imagine not, since managers get mad being left off screen.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Occasional wrestlers still want to be used but I don't know how much they want. I'm gonna have to go test the pushes and stuff sometime soon, it's gonna bug me if I don't start knowing answers here. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcorey Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 <p>A main eventer (depending on personality) wants to be on every other show. An upper midcarder (depending on personality) once two be on every third show. So if they are unbranded shows they'll want to be on each of those shows.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Is this true that a main eventer (depending on personailty) wants to be on every other show? Is this specific to using brands? Also we are only talking abiout "A" shows. correct?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmor Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Every other show for main eventers sounds about right, but I'm usually not taking chances there. There are definitely guys who will complain after being left off one show even (Brock Lesnar in any real world mod I can think of for example). This has to do with how nice, or not nice overall, a character is. Also, when they're on written, main eventers tend to get a ton of money usually so I am using them on every show to milk their overness to the max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Savant Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Oh and don't forget... if you know you're not planning to use a worker next week and they're on a written contract: Give him a one week vacation! You might turn a situation where they would have been upset with you into one where they're happier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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