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So, here's my idea...

The principle is simple: instead of making a one man diary we could try to assemble teams for diaries. But not as in the 4 corners, (for example) no no. Something more elaborate. For each playable promotion there would be a head booker (the guy who calls the shots), a few writers (as many as there are volunteers for the position) and one man to actually PLAY the game. He would follow the instructions of the head booker, (the man with the decision power and the sole boss of the promotion) with the writers giving their contribute with ideas or even writing the whole thing, only needing aproval of the head booker. This would make diaries much more fun to play, as all the tasks would be divided, and we would truly feel like Vince Mcmahon's, as we would have people to interact with.

 

Now, if anyone wants to join this idea, please post here and we can decide on the promotions to use. The mod to be used will be a real world one. (Present day statistics) Please don't let the lack of time stop you from joining, as you can chose positions that do not necessarily eat a lot of your time. As a part-time writer, or even a head booker. (as they are not required to write, only to decide.)

 

So, before we launch the idea, i would like some feedback, in order to know your thoughts and suggestions about this. The base of the idea is that every promotion would have a minimum (and no maximum) of workers to be able to participate on this dinasty. This minimum would be:

 

 

1- Player: The guy who has the most fun with all of this (theoretically) because his job is to play the game, acording to instructions from his creative team. Besides playing, he also has to report to the assistant head booker. This will include a spoken (in this case written, so we can have players from all around the world) mini brief where he tells the assistant head booker what's going on in the game, how the crowd is reacting, how the feuds are going, etc etc. And he has to send the game files to the assistant head booker, so he can see in depth how the game is going. The player is outranked by everyone. He is a simple tool...but is the lucky guy who get's the chance to play the game. He is one of the only two people who actually have access to the game files (the other beeing the assistant head booker) in order to ensure that everyone has the chance to actually do something.

 

2- Writer: The writer writes, and that's it. He writes storylines that are created by his own imagination, or that are ordered by his superiors. He may help the head writer to write the final version of the show that will be posted on the forum, but only if the head writer decides so. The writer is outranked by everyone, except the player. Every promotion must have at least 2 writers. There may be more, but never less.

 

3- Head writer: The guy who assembles the storylines and actually writes the final version of the show. He may contribute with original storyline ideas if he wants to, he may even delegate for one or more writers to help him in the actual writing of the final version of the show, (useful for big promotions, with more than one tv show) but he must always be part of the process and aprove the version that is posted. (verifying that it is acording to his superiors instructions and that there are no mistakes on it) Every promotion must have the minimum of one head writer, although there can be more. One for each extension brand is the maximum allowed. The head writer is only outranked by the assistant head booker and by the head booker himself.

 

4- Assistant Head Booker: The Bridge between the booker and the rest of the team...but...here comes the surprise, also the bridge between the player and the rest of the team. This guys ends up beeing the one with the most power. (if he knows how to use it. Ah yes...we start to see that backstage politics are possible...) He must make sure that his boss's orders are followed correctly but he must also get the save files (given by the player) so he can verify how things are going and make regular briefings (one every each show) to the head booker. He must also make sure (delegating, if he has to) that all other members of his team are informed of how things are going on. The assistant head booker is only outranked by the big man himself. And he will replace the big man himself, if the head booker is not available (for personal or other types of reasons) for the making of one or more shows.

 

Ps: About the assistant head booker, i would like to enlighten you about this role. As the show result briefings are made to the boss by him, he will always know more then the boss (as he has the game files) because it's impossible that he can transmit EXACTLY EVERYTHING that is going on the game. And the boss decisions will always be based on his briefing. So, although he can't lie about the game facts he still has a lot of power, as he is the filter between the player and the boss. No matter how many things a head booker asks his assistant he will never be able to ask everything, so the assistant will be important. And he is the boss's right arm.

 

5- Head Booker: The name says it all, the guys who calls the shots. He may do (almost) anything he wants, he is the boss! If he wants to pitch in with ideas in the form of scripts or just basic drafts, he can. If not, he can just decide based on his writers ideas. He can't (under any circunstance) be the man who actually plays the game or occupy any other position other than his own. Disadvantages of calling the shots. It is enough that he already has the whole power. :D His word is the law, there is no democracy and no way to reverse his decisions. He may call full staff meatings or meat only with selected members of his cabinet. NO MUTINY IS ALLOWED and the only ways to see a headbooker lose his job are:

 

- If he quits.

- If he spends more then 31 days with whereabouts unknown.

 

 

 

Other rules include:

 

- As already said, the head booker can't perform other tasks, but other members may substitute their colleagues if they need to take time out, or can be randomly promoted/demoted by their boss.

 

- The headbookers will lose their company if they disappear for more then one month without a warning of absence. The assistant headbooker will then run things permanently from that point on, having to nominate a new assistant head booker.

 

- The reason that only 2 persons per promotion can access the save game files (assistant head booker and player) is because otherwise it would become almost impossible to wait for everyone to have the save game files and because that would eliminate the need for other jobs, wich would go against the spirit of this dinasty.

 

- Headbooker firings or any other decisions pertinent to the game world will be taken by THE GREAT COUNSIL (the head bookers of the dinasty). In case of a tie, i have the double vote. If i eventually quit this game, i will nominate a new Great Counsil leader.

 

- Any promotion must have a minimum of 6 workers (1 head booker, 1 assistant head booker, 1 head writer, 2 writers and 1 player. However ,there is no limit for the number of workers to have.

 

- The mod used will be MRCanada's January 2011 Mod

 

Hope you like the idea. As this is in a beta period, i am accepting head booker aplications for TNA and ROH only. (Future versions may have more or less participants, depending on the results.) I will take WWE's head booker position. If you have any ideas or suggestions for the mod, please do share and i will take them in mind. Aplications are also accepted for all the necessary positions in all the promotions. To submit your aplications please post here. Do not PM me, i have nothing to hide, so you can adress me in a public orderly way. The first ones to post here will get the jobs. PM will later be used between teams (or msn, or any other private form of comunication) Tell me what job you want, in what company it is, and so on. This dinasty doesn't probably require a lot of our time per day, bet there is no point in joining any position at any promotion if you can't come to this forum in a regular basis.

 

Thank you for your time, hope you like the idea. If you do, please suggest it to people who you think would like to join. As it is obvious, only 2 people per promotion need to have the actuall game, so many people that don't actually have tew 2010 may join.

 

 

 

 

FAQ:

 

 

Q: I want The Rock/Brock Lesnar/Goldberg or any other 'left the business' worker to become active again in the game world. Is this possible?

 

 

A: Yes! Retired players may be brought back to business...but theire status may only be changed once a year! I mean...we will not be retiring/unretiring guys every week or so! We must do this in a realistic way and let's face it... people don't retire/unretire every day in wrestling! "Oh, but wrestler x retired in march 2011 and returned in may...shouldn't we change the rules?" Simply put: No! I coudn't care less if unknown joe retires every single week in and out. Exceptions do not make a rule! So, if we change The Rock's Status (for example) from l'lef the business' to 'Active Wrestler' (Or any othrer) on say May 1st 2011, we can only change it to anything else on May 1st 2012. What if he retires half way through, for example in august 12th 2011? Then the new changing date will be August 12th 2012.

 

Ok...so The Rock's status is now changed (still an example) and everyone wants to sign him...is there any special way to sign workers? No! "But that means he will probably go to the WWE." Yes, as most of the workers would go. You go where the money sends you, it's life...except for loyalty exceptions that the game already covers! If you want to be able to sign the big boys....well...do your work well and make your promotion grow!

It is important to add that the first change to the retired/left the business/Hiatus workers will be announced without voting and the others will be decided by the head bookers every 6 months, game time.

 

Q: Can i change the roles of my own workers? (Those already signed with my promotion when the game starts?)

 

A: yes, but under the same rule. You change them and will only be eligible to change them after one year. And if he retires or decides to change role by himself....well, the deadline starts counting from that point on. As i said...same rule!

 

Q: Can human workers (us) be fired or hired by other promotions?

 

A: Sure. They can jump ship any time, like it would happen on real life. "Oh...but if we quit the game we will banned or suspended." Yeah, but that's diferent! If you get fired or if you jump the ship, you're still part of the game, you are still eligible to work for other promotions.

So yes...people can change promotions, but not in the first 31 days of playing (game time).

 

Q: Can i start signing wrestlers from other human controled promotions as soon as the game starts?

 

A: Can Vinnie O' Mac try to sign a PPA worker from TNA in real life if he wants to and is willing to pay the big bucks? Yes. So the answer is obvious...YES! "But then i'll lose my main workers?" I'm sorry...but small promotions always get raided...deal with it. Grow so you can raid others one day. Remember that this is not an alternative mod, where other people take the reigns of the promotions...This is us pickinp up where real life is, with the ability to make OUR OWN decisions.

 

Q: Can human promotions interact to each other with deals such as war, working agreements, developmental deals, etc etc?

 

A: Yes! And they can do that since day one of game time. You can even trade talents (if there is any possible way of doing so) or any other interaction. Don't feel shy to declare war on other users, or even to try and be friends with them. Afterall, all is possible,

 

Q: Can i handle the save game files if...

 

A: Let me be pretty clear about this....NO ONE, except for the AHB and the player will handle the save files! If they can't do it for a few days or weeks (because of personal reason, and such) a substitute will be nominated. And other then the people legally designated, no one else can access them.

 

Q: But i can cheat and do it anyway without anyone finding out...

 

A: Suuuure! You can... but you will be making part of your staff useless and i'm sure they won't be thrilled about that!

 

Q: Can i at least ask for screenshots of some data, as for example my roster and stuff like that?

 

A: The head booker can ask his assistant( and he should ask if he wants to be kept on the loop) for information about the game in order to know what decisions to make. Whether this information is passed through text, screen shots or any other pertinent way...well, that is for him and his assistant to decide. Chose the best way, the way that fits you!

But Head Bookers....please be reasonable, don't start asking images or text about every single s*** that happens in game. Trust your assistant's briefings and learn how to delegate so you don't overburn yourself or the others.

 

Q: Won't some positions be irrelevant in small promotions...sucha as AHB?

 

A: That is what we will test. But in small promotions the players have the time to do things right. And if everyone works their job, then no one will get tired of doing everything alone. I can assure you that all positions have their utility. But again, and i thing it's needless to say this all the time...this is in beta testing.

 

Q: How often should we post shows?

 

A: Weeeelllll....that's the millions dolar question, ain't it? That remains to be decided. All the head bookers will talk to their teams to see what they can (and are willing to do) and then the headbookers will decide. Our decision will be made with intention of not getting the readers tired (not to much posting) but having in mind that we won't have readers if we post a single show per month. So, as soon as we have the full teams, the decision will be made!

 

Q: I'd like to aply to head booker position of promotion x but it's already taken...

 

A: Good for you! :D Seriously, kkep applying. IF your favorite position is already taken, then apply to something else. Once you're in the company it will be theoretically easy for you to climb the ladder of success. And also, it's really important that a lot of people keeps applying, because staff changes will inevitabily happen (let's hope not that often) and people may need to quit for some reason. So, the more...the merrier!

 

Q: Can we, the readers, give our opinions?

 

A: Can a priest hear you in confession? Is the pope catholic?? Hell yeah!!! You can and you should! And, i urge you to do so, not because we're desperate to see what people has to say, but because it will help the game environment to become even more realistic! Please feel free to call us idiots to complain because you're favorite wrestlers are not beeing pushed...imagine that you a are a IWC guy voicing his opinion online! Because, contrary to other dinastys...we want the truth! The truth is much more useful! And no one will get ofended if you trash us (as long as you don't actually insult us or use demeaning word. Everything has its limits) as we will love if you glorify us!

 

 

Also:

 

If a promotion falls (bankrupcy or overtaken) the palyers will be unemployed (if the promotion is acquired, the buyer's head booker may chose to retain the staff) and eligible to apply to other promotions, unless they jump ship to the buyer company. If a promotion falls...the new headbooker may start a new promotion (and has to stick with the newly created promotion until it sinks or he sells it to another human player) or may apply to an already existing non human controled promotion. Hence the fact that they are called head bookers. They may apply to those non human controled promotions (where they would head book according to the owners guidelines) or they can start their own company. Only headbookers can start their own company! And only if their current company sinks. Seriously, or else we would have 50 promotions. So each player should start with a very high reputation ( to make it easier to get jobs) and as owner.

 

 

 

Game settings and user preferences:

 

auto save: disabled

 

multi advance: disabled

 

new worker frequency: none

 

new worker highlights: disabled (Enable when/if the worker frequency is on)

 

relationship frequency: medium

 

strict boom and bust: disabled

 

strict advanded booking: enabled

 

strict storylines: enabled

 

promotion battles: enabled

 

injury frequency: medium

 

death frequency: low

 

kenny deaths: enabled

 

regeneration: disabled

 

dirty tricks: enabled

 

 

 

User preferences:

 

Show stats as grades rather than numbers: ON! (Not up for debate, it's more realistic)

 

Owner Goals: OFF!

 

Penalties for small rosters and repetitive booking: ON!

 

Perfect Show Theory: ON!

 

Characters can get stale over time and gimmick effects: ON!

 

Worker and Locker Room Morale: ON!

 

Momentum Effects: ON!

 

Time Limit on negotiations: ON!

 

Advance Bookings can't be deleted: ON! (In case of prolongued injury we will open exceptions)

 

Dirt Sheet breakdown is hidden: OFF!

 

Industry and Economy Effects: ON!

 

 

Also, WWE will be starting the save file and after we insert all head bookers and do our thing we will be passing them to other players. The game order will be: WWE, then TNA, then ROH. I chose to do it based on size, as i could have done it based on any other specification, there was no special reason for it, aside that bigger promotions will need more time to "set their deals straigth", so it makes sense that we play it that way. With that in mind, please post your avatars data so we can insert all the players when the time comes.

 

 

I'd like to remember you guys that altough this is just a game, we must be able to take it a little bit seriously. WICH MEANS: If you don't have time to play this... DO NOT SIGN IN! It's as simple as that. If this starts and then people stop quiting and we cna't find enough replacements...then the whole idea will fall down. So, if you think you can't cope with it, just quit now before it starts. We only want active players. That does not mean you must be here every time of every day, but if you feel you haven't got the time...just step down now. Player who quit (after the game starts) in the first 3 months will be longly suspended or even banned! Nothing pesonal, but we want this to work.

 

That's all for now, but keep tunning for new developments every day! Stay Tunned!

 

 

 

 

Players already entered:

 

 

WWE:

 

Head booker: Shawn Michaels 82

 

Assistant Head Booker: Mike J Cab00se

 

Head Writer: MiniBoosh

 

Head Writer: Teh Showtime

 

Head Writer: Kaneso14

 

Writer: mtimmins

 

Writer: Jeff-Davis

 

Writer: GhostDogg

 

Writer: Lo-Drew

 

Player: abaker5252

 

 

TNA:

 

Head Booker: 20LEgend

 

Assistant Head Booker: Nathers7

 

Head Writer: Eidenhoek

 

Writer: Inky The Squid Boy

 

Writer: ZMAN

 

Writer: DaMegaFish

 

Player: funkyzafara

 

 

ROH:

 

Head Booker: rvdjrv2002

 

Assistant Head Booker: Rick Savant

 

Head Writer: PFElton

 

Writer: mdale2k

 

Player: guyver3

 

 

 

Waiting for a response for lack of data:

 

Currently no one. PLEASE MAKE SURE TO TELL ME THE JOB AND THE PROMOTION YOU WANT IN YOUR APPLICATION OR YOU MAY LOSE YOUR JOB TO SOMEONE WHO PROPERLY EXPLAINS IT FIRST!

 

Ps: We have an open application policy, wich means we are always accepting new players, so don't be afraid to join in.

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This is going to be insanity. I'd like to apply for for Assistant Head Booker for ROH.

 

And if we ever set up a 1987 version of this then I'll apply as a Head Booker for that.

 

And two posts that refrence our 4 Corners game! You have started a renaissance, Hive!

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This is going to be insanity. I'd like to apply for for Assistant Head Booker for ROH.

 

And if we ever set up a 1987 version of this then I'll apply as a Head Booker for that.

 

And two posts that refrence our 4 Corners game! You have started a renaissance, Hive!

 

Ok, you're application is noted. And we will eventually go to new mods.

 

I'll apply for...I guess (non-head) writer. Someone that doesn't need the game and doesn't do much.

 

Right, but you want to be a writer in wich company?

 

You may now officially all start to worship me and sacrifice goats in my name. :D

 

I wouldn't say a goat, but close enough. YOu are wellcome to join.

 

Ps: Glad you guys liked the idea. I think there's a lot of potential in it.

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O, I saw that you said their has to be a min. I thought that said Max per.. lol my bad.

 

Do all the writer need to talk? If so what would we use, FB?

 

Everyone will be heared, but not necessarily by their head bookers. Head bookers may ask for meetings with whoever they want, and will give the orders. And then his assistant and the head writer will meet with the rest of the team as they see fit. Everyone will be heared, as no idea is a bad idea. Msn would be a good way to make sure everyone comunicates in real time. Any other question?

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This is going to be insanity. I'd like to apply for for Assistant Head Booker for ROH.

 

And if we ever set up a 1987 version of this then I'll apply as a Head Booker for that.

 

And two posts that refrence our 4 Corners game! You have started a renaissance, Hive!

 

Ps: Though i do know the 4 corners game i did not inspire on it to make this. Just a heads up. :D

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Everyone will be heared, but not necessarily by their head bookers. Head bookers may ask for meetings with whoever they want, and will give the orders. And then his assistant and the head writer will meet with the rest of the team as they see fit. Everyone will be heared, as no idea is a bad idea. Msn would be a good way to make sure everyone comunicates in real time. Any other question?

 

Wait... if the Head Booker can meet directly with the writers/Game Player... what my purpose as Assistant Head Booker?

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Wait... if the Head Booker can meet directly with the writers/Game Player... what my purpose as Assistant Head Booker?

 

The assistant head booker sees the save game files (after meeting with player) and meets with the head booker to say what's going on, then he informs the rest of the players as it better fits him (but he informs the head booker first). This briefing between heab booker and his assistant is exclusive, but full meatings may happen to brainstorm and hear ideas of the team. Creative meetings may be attented by everyone. Executive meetings (the ones where the shots are called) don't necessarilly need to be attended by others then the boss and his assistant. And maybe the head writer, no one else.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Ps: Executive meetings will only be attended by the booker, the head booker and the head writers. The decisions that come out of those meetings will always be enforced by the assistant head booker. This sums it up better. Right? As for creative meetings, everyone can join them. Nothing stops these 2 types of meeting from taking place at the same time, thanks to multiple msn windows and conversations (for example).

 

Edit: But i can change any rule if you think your role as assiste head booker (From now on refered to as AHB) is still small. Though i think that making a bridge both with the player and head booker, plus enforcing the head booker's executive decisions should be enough.

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The assistant head booker sees the save game files (after meeting with player) and meets with the head booker to say what's going on, then he informs the rest of the players as it better fits him (but he informs the head booker first). This briefing between heab booker and his assistant is exclusive, but full meatings may happen to brainstorm and hear ideas of the team. Creative meetings may be attented by everyone. Executive meetings (the ones where the shots are called) don't necessarilly need to be attended by others then the boss and his assistant. And maybe the head writer, no one else.

 

Hrm. Seems like it would be hard to keep the Player (P) from informing the Head Booker (HB) of the in game information during the full meetings. And it would be even more difficult to keep the HB from giving instructions to the Writers (Ws) during those same full meetings. And with everyone able to communicate directly that pretty much leaves the AHB without much to do.

 

Well I guess they act as a portion of the booking committee. But as a liason, it seems like the role might end up being secondary only. Maybe have them act as an editor too to proof read, re-organize, format the show before it gets posted?

 

Ps: Executive meetings will only be attended by the booker, the head booker and the head writers. The decisions that come out of those meetings will always be enforced by the assistant head booker. This sums it up better. Right?

 

Enforced how? I guess they're the ones that tell the P what to do.

 

As for creative meetings, everyone can join them. Nothing stops these 2 types of meeting from taking place at the same time, thanks to multiple msn windows and conversations (for example).

 

Edit: But i can change any rule if you think your role as assiste head booker (From now on refered to as AHB) is still small. Though i think that making a bridge both with the player and head booker, plus enforcing the head booker's executive decisions should be enough.

 

I def think we should kick around some ideas on how to clarify that role.

 

Head Booker of ROH for me.

 

Bad ass. We're going to rule this game.

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I edited the first post about the AHB's role. Hope it helps. IF it doesn't please tell me and we will work on a solution. As i said, the AHB as a lot of power if he knows how to use it. As for the enforcing part, the assistant head booker will talk with the outranked more often than the boss. So, he will end up enforcing more then the boss. I can't prevent a boss from reuniting (i think, but as i said i can change my opinion if you guys prove me otherwise) with the full team once and a while because the assistant booker can't have too much work to do or he may get tired. But the assistant works as filter, that's why he has a lot of power. PLEASE read the first post where it talks about the assistant head booker i just edited it.
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I edited the first post about the AHB's role. Hope it helps. IF it doesn't please tell me and we will work on a solution. As i said, the AHB as a lot of power if he knows how to use it. As for the enforcing part, the assistant head booker will talk with the outranked more often than the boss. So, he will end up enforcing more then the boss. I can't prevent a boss from reuniting (i think, but as i said i can change my opinion if you guys prove me otherwise) with the full team once and a while because the assistant booker can't have too much work to do or he may get tired. But the assistant works as filter, that's why he has a lot of power. PLEASE read the first post where it talks about the assistant head booker i just edited it.

 

Just re-read it. I see the idea, and we'll have to play test it to find out out it works. I would project that the AHB's usefullness will be eroded over time, but that's just theory.

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Just re-read it. I see the idea, and we'll have to play test it to find out out it works. I would project that the AHB's usefullness will be eroded over time, but that's just theory.

 

Well, if we eventually see that you're right, we can change it. Actually we may still change it before the mod starts beeing played, let's wait and see what some of the other participants think. Maybe some small change can help improve the AHB's role. Let's see what happens in the next couple of days. But it is an interesting question.

 

Edit: And i guess that it will also depend on the level of activity of the head booker. Depending if he likes to delegate or not. Maybe we should do the test to see if beeing like Vince O'mac works in here like it works on real life. What you guys think? Now that i think about it, maybe it truly depends a little on the head booker. If the head booker wants to know for example the overness of his full roster, he will have to ask name by name to his assistant, thus overburding him and his assistant. If he can trust and delegate he may just say: I wanna push cody rhodes or Ted DiBiase (example) but just one of them. Push the one you think will gain overness faster or the one that you think will fit better, etc. Or he can just aks for you to give some kind of push to a midcarder. The booker still has to call the shots, so there must also be a limit of power to the AHB and a limit of tasks. LEt's not overburden anyone. I think that with the current system, a symbiotic relationship between the boss and the assistant may be a key to success, much as in real world, where team work is necessary. Not even Vince does it all alone.

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So as head booker you tell people what to do?

 

So you could say simply push x, or alternatively say put x and y in a feud or even specifically go to a writer and say I want a feud that starts with a hit and run x is hurt, y is then a suspect and x attacks him, y then promo's saying he didn't do it, followed by reveal z did it.

 

Basically, can you as head booker be as specific or vague as you want?

 

Also is it the writer who makes the actually diary entries or does the head booker (as in writing up the script for the show)?

 

If I don't have to write up an actually diary entry and do a more, make ideas listen to ideas and then make decisions I'd be happy to cross the line and take Head booker of TNA.

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