Arlie Rahn Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 We are currently working on a patch that will fix the following: -Fix the injury length issue -Fix the coach switch issue on year 1 -Fix the distance issue on penalties (face mask) -Fix the 4th down FG logic inside the 10 -Fix the late game AI -Fix the home and home issue -Fix advance week button -two point conversion INT -Fix WR limit for redshirts/change position -underclassmen turning pro -Fix the recruit distibution issue (by state) -Timing issues for TOs -Plays called should always match -Improve CPU logic when academics given to staff -Roughing the passer logic -Adjust the early season poll logic -Time coming off touchbacks -Allow ' in team names/nicknames -Fix coach development skills -tie breakers -hot routes in PBP This is going to be a patch aimed at fixing most of the major issues. Feel free to post any I may have missed here. But, keep in mind this update is to target the major issues and some items I may hold for the first update (1.1). thanks, Arlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjshaw Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Thanks, Arlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper66 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 This patch will not include the in game editor then ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlie Rahn Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 Another point I wanted to make is that I've seen a lot of comments on "parity issues" - ie, a mid-range team beating an udefeated top tier team. Now, these are still going to happen as upsets are a big part of college football (just ask UCLA this season ;) ). However, the injury issue of too many top QBs and RBs have really made this parity issue more of a factor than I would have liked. I have found that since I have made injuries more realistic in my testing that the number of major upsets have decreased. When you combined the injury issue with the underclassmen leaving early bug(sophs), as well as the aggressive transfers by some players - you ended up with a situation ripe for major upsets. Before the injury and underclassman fix, I had a Southern Cal team lose a 5-star QB for the season, have a 4-star (RS soph) leave for the pros the year before, a 5-star RB injured for half the season and a 3.5/5 star RB transfer away the year before. This left a very green QB/RB combo (both were around 2.5-3 star actual) heading up Southern Cal. As some of you may know, young players in BBCF play very inconsistent. A 2.5/5.0 star QB could look like a 4-star one game and a 2-star the next. In this case, Southern Cal ended up losing to a very average Washington State team as the QB looked awful and the team had a couple other key injuries. I haven't seen this type of thing occur tonight (after I added the injury fix) and expect some of the other fixes will add even more stability in certain areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlie Rahn Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 [QUOTE=piper66]This patch will not include the in game editor then ???[/QUOTE] [quote]This is going to be a patch aimed at fixing most of the major issues.[/quote] This is a patch to hit some of the main gameplay issues. There will still be an update 1.1 that will include things like the player editor and playoff brackets. But, I wanted to get something out a little quicker to deal with some of the gameplay issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Swartz Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Sounds like a sound strategy to me. Good luck squashing the rest of the bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlmayer32 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Sounds great Arlie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiliano Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 [QUOTE=Arlie Rahn]We are currently working on a patch that will fix the following: -Fix the injury length issue (injures will be reduced in length) -Fix the coach switch issue -Fix the distance issue on penalties (ie, face mask and others) -Fix the 4th down FG logic inside the 10 -Fix the late game AI -Fix the home and home scheduling issue -Fix advance week button -two point conversion INT -Fix WR limit for redshirts/change position -underclassmen turning pro -Fix the recruit distibution issue (by state) -Timing issues for TOs -Plays called should always match -Improve CPU logic when academics given to staff -Roughing the passer logic -Adjust the early season poll logic This is going to be a patch aimed at fixing most of the major issues. Feel free to post any I may have missed here. But, keep in mind this update is to target the major issues and some items I may hold for the first update (1.1). thanks, Arlie[/QUOTE] Just great Arlie, thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Kaputnik Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Wow! I had decided not to buy the game and was taking one last look at the boards before deleting the link when I saw this thread. I am now back to planning to buy the game. What impressed me is that you are actually listening to customer complaints. The game will be a lot better with these changes. Of course I would like to see the editor in this patch but I understand completely the reasoning for doing the other things first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Comey Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Roger, You'll learn that this thread is par for the course for GreyDog. This has been the trend as long as I've known Arlie and Gary, and I don't expect that to change. You're making a wise choice by not deleting the link. I'm actually surprised that this is news to you, in that nobody informed you of how quick/responsive these guys are to patches/bugs/complaints. -John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Kaputnik Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I got a bit frustrated by the initial responses to some of these issues. At first they either tried to blame the user or they denied that there was a problem. At one point Arlie was saying that; A. the game is NOT supposed to be an accurate sim of the NCAA so don’t get upset if weird things happen in recruiting, and B. The game IS supposed to be an accurate sim of the NCAA so there should be more injuries than other sim games we may have played in the past. At any rate, the did the right thing so I am happy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoman Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 [QUOTE=John Comey]Roger, You'll learn that this thread is par for the course for GreyDog. This has been the trend as long as I've known Arlie and Gary, and I don't expect that to change. You're making a wise choice by not deleting the link. I'm actually surprised that this is news to you, in that nobody informed you of how quick/responsive these guys are to patches/bugs/complaints. -John[/QUOTE] Yes,this is without a doubt very true,these guys are about as hands on as it gets. Great sports sims,and great custumer support from all the sport sims they offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjshaw Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Will this patch be backward-compatible with saved games, or will it require starting new ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiliano Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 [QUOTE=scoman]Yes,this is without a doubt very true,these guys are about as hands on as it gets. Great sports sims,and great custumer support from all the sport sims they offer.[/QUOTE] I agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody8200 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 [QUOTE=sjshaw]Will this patch be backward-compatible with saved games, or will it require starting new ones?[/QUOTE] I'm almost 100 percent that this will be backwards compatible...almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauboy Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Well, this may be under late game logic but I thought I'd mention it. There was 1:08 left in the game and the other team still had 3 timeouts. Because I had fumbled it on the previous drive, I was just going to kneel it three times and punt, but the computer didn't call time outs after I kneeled the ball. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21sec Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Thanks Arlie, I think this game will get its legs under it soon enough, and be a great game. Keep at :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBPD5015 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Multiplayer bug Arlie, I know this is a patch for serious issues only. Could you please fix the issue with not being able to assign or change coach names in a muliplayer league. I started a muliplayer league and named myself as coach. I then made my buddy the coach of Kent St. I put his name and email address in but it failed to change the head coach name. I then attempted to change my name and it didnt work either. I know this sounds like a small issue, but to me it is major, could this please be added to your first patch. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFozzie Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I don't see the 4th down loss of down penalty bug.. is it too rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 [QUOTE=sjshaw]Will this patch be backward-compatible with saved games, or will it require starting new ones?[/QUOTE] I'd like to know this as well, before I go any further on my current leauge. Any answers to this... Also will the major updates as they happen, apply to already in progress saved leauges???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw77 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Will this patch also increase the different weather icons showing up? Its rare to see the rain or snow icons show up and I've yet to see the night game icon used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slingblade73 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 [QUOTE=21sec]Thanks Arlie, I think this game will get its legs under it soon enough, and be a great game. Keep at :D[/QUOTE] Roll Tide!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlie Rahn Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 [QUOTE=Meat]I'd like to know this as well, before I go any further on my current leauge. Any answers to this... Also will the major updates as they happen, apply to already in progress saved leauges????[/QUOTE] It will be backwards compatible with saves. Also, if you have a game where you switch teams and are stuck, this patch will fix the game upon loading and you should be able to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlie Rahn Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 updated the patch list with a few other reported items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBPD5015 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Arlie, You updated the patch list, but failed to comment on the bug I report. In mulitplayer games you are unable to change coach names. and the name you give each coach on the league setting screen does not match the name on the team info screen or anywhere else in the game. Therfore in a multiplayer game each owner has a fictional name. If this cant be fixed yet, can we at least get a response about it please. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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