Please review this rivalries table

[Guest [Icy]]

I have been playing with access today to get a list of teams and their rivals. I have edited some rivals already so please review it and i'll udpdate the wrong or missing ones. After that i'll release the pstats1.5 with some other reported fixes. [url="http://www.prodeportes.com/bb/rivalries.html"][color=#006699]http://www.prodeportes.com/bb/rivalries.html[/color][/url]

[jbergey_2005]

Nice work thus far I believe Air Force and Col St are rivals, along with Nebraska and Colorado, Texas and Oklahoma is one of the best rivalries in college fb. Always been a big fan of teh ND and USC rivalry athough its hard to argue with USC-UCLA. Stanford and Cal is listed as an off season scheduled game, they are in the same conference.

[Bigmoe]

Central Florida rival is Miami(OH)... should it be South Florida

[Guest [Icy]]

[QUOTE=jbergey_2005]Nice work thus far I believe Air Force and Col St are rivals, along with Nebraska and Colorado, Texas and Oklahoma is one of the best rivalries in college fb. Always been a big fan of teh ND and USC rivalry athough its hard to argue with USC-UCLA. Stanford and Cal is listed as an off season scheduled game, they are in the same conference.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the suggestions: - Texas and Oklahoma, Nebraska and Colorado, are in the same conference so not needed to autoschedule them. - Stanford-Cal is fixed, good catch thanks. - ND and USC are schedulled in the second table that is for scheduling other rivalry games, as each team can only have one rival in the game.

[Guest [Icy]]

[QUOTE=Bigmoe]Central Florida rival is Miami(OH)... should it be South Florida[/QUOTE] Thanks, that was a typo from me, fixed and also i have autoscheduled it now.

[ThrowTheBall]

I may be misinterpreting the functionality of the second table, but Im pretty sure that Temple doesn't play Maryland and Virginia every year. Neither does UConn and Army.

[Guest [Icy]]

[QUOTE=ThrowTheBall]I may be misinterpreting the functionality of the second table, but Im pretty sure that Temple doesn't play Maryland and Virginia every year. Neither does UConn and Army.[/QUOTE] You're interpreting it correctly, but that games are default from Arlie in the original game, i didn't want to remove them as i don't know why are there, will ask him. I guess it's to fill their schedule as that teams are independents.

[Another Mike D]

Question, it has "Boise St and Idaho as rivals but says non-conference...aren't they both in the WAC?

[Guest [Icy]]

[QUOTE=Another Mike D]Question, it has "Boise St and Idaho as rivals but says non-conference...aren't they both in the WAC?[/QUOTE] Right, fixed.

[jbergey_2005]

Icy Thanks again, I didnt realize exactly what the table meant right away All these teams are in the same conference scheduling Akron-kent St Alabama-Auburn Arizona-Arizona St Army-Navy are both independants, not sure how that is handled Boise St-Idaho Cal-Stanford Illinois-Northwestern Purdue-Indiana Lou Laf-Lou Monroe Michigan-Ohio St Miss St-Mississippi Oklahoma-Oklahoma St Oregon-Oregon St Tex-Tex A&M UCLA-USC Wash-Washington St You would know a lot more about this then myself. I did want to mention that many of these might need to be marked yes because they are either in a conference with more then 9 teams(8 conf) games or they may may be rivals from different sides of the conference, such as the SEC has an East and West side. It could be needed to make sure these games get played. Just wanted to give you a heads up above in case the 'Yes' isnt need on conference games.

[Guest [Icy]]

It looks so, that rivalry games are there to grant that they will be played in large or splited conferences where they could be missing elsewere. I have only removed the game Boise State-Idaho as that one was added by me by mistake, but will keep the ones that you listed. Anyway i'm going to ask Arlie to be 100% sure.

[mh2365]

USC-UCLA you have marked as a non-conference game. Actually you have a lot of conference games marked that way.

[ICBUAB]

Please change Alabama Birmingham to say UAB. We asked not to be referred to as Alabama Birmingham, Also our rivalry (if we have one) is with Southern Miss moreso than Memphis.

[Braves31074]

I would tend to say that UNC is more rivals with N.C. STate in football than with Duke.

[Mad Cow]

Alabama and Auburn are in the same conference. Michigan and Ohio State are same conference. You actually have quite a few conference rivals listed as non conference.

[JHopkins19]

I'd have to agree with Braves. Carolina is definitely huge rivals with both NC State and Duke. The way the ACC schedule is set up is that each school has two "locked" opponents from the conference that they play every year regardless if they are in the same division or not. Is there any way to make it so carolina plays both NSCU and Duke every year even if its not specified as a rivalry game? And if thats not possible, I know I'd rather play NCSU than Duke as my rivalry game. Just my preference though

[Chappy]

[QUOTE=Braves31074]I would tend to say that UNC is more rivals with N.C. STate in football than with Duke.[/QUOTE] Yeah, NC State and UNC should be rivals, though the Duke-UNC game is about the only football game the Dookies care about. Also, NC State is ECU's biggest rival, not Wake Forest. We did not play State this year, but will start that series back up next season. -edit - oops, didn't see jhops's post. yeah, i agree with him...

[Guest [Icy]]

I haved edited the colum title so it won't say "non conference game" to avoid confussion. The colum now says on which week will the game be played (week 15 or any week).

[jonesz]

Ohio U and Miami OH are each others rivals. Not Marshall and Cincinnati respectively.

[Guest [Icy]]

[QUOTE=jonesz]Ohio U and Miami OH are each others rivals. Not Marshall and Cincinnati respectively.[/QUOTE] Here we have a problem by game design, each team can have only a rival and his are the real live rivalries betwen them: Cincinnati <-> Miami (OH) Miami (OH) <-> Ohio U Marsall <-> Ohio U Each one has two rivals so the only way to set it up so that 4 teams have a rival is: Marsall <-> Ohio U Cincinnati <-> Miami (OH) I'm i'm not wrong and i'm waiting for confirmation, i can add the Miami (OH) <-> Ohio U game in the other table [b]SchedMatch[/b] so they will play every year, but it won't be a rivalry game.

[Chappy]

[QUOTE='[Icy]']Here we have a problem by game design, each team can have only a rival...[/QUOTE] It seems from the default rivalries that this is not the case. For Example, Florida State's rival is listed as Florida, while Miami's rival is listed as Florida State. So would that not mean FSU has 2 rivals?

[Guest [Icy]]

[QUOTE=Chappy]It seems from the default rivalries that this is not the case. For Example, Florida State's rival is listed as Florida, while Miami's rival is listed as Florida State. So would that not mean FSU has 2 rivals?[/QUOTE] From Arlie: Rivalries are only meant to have one per team. You can set rivalires to stagger, but there may be some issues with it down the road. That is why i'm waiting to talk to him and make this all clear.

[Roger Kaputnik]

[QUOTE=ICBUAB]Please change Alabama Birmingham to say UAB. We asked not to be referred to as Alabama Birmingham, Also our rivalry (if we have one) is with Southern Miss moreso than Memphis.[/QUOTE] I understand that UAB is the normal abbreviation and all but why is this such a big deal? Is it to differentiate between UAB and Bama or is there a more sinister reason?

[Huckleberry]

Icy - I think Colorado/Nebraska should be set as a rivalry for Week 15. They play in the last regular season game every year. Air Force should be changed to Colorado State as any week. Colorado State's rival can stay as Colorado as any week. San Diego State can keep Air Force as any week. Kansas State can keep Nebraska as any week. Iowa State/Iowa should be changed to any week. By the way, the default table has to have a situation where a rivalry isn't listed for both teams. There are an odd number of teams. Hawaii lists Fresno State as its rival but Fresno State lists San Jose State as its rival. Here are my recommended changes: [CODE] Id Team Rival Week of the Game 71 Air Force Colorado State Any 30 Colorado Nebraska 15 73 Colorado State Colorado Any 21 Iowa Iowa State Any 31 Iowa State Iowa Any 32 Kansas State Nebraska Any 35 Nebraska Colorado 15 [/CODE] My theory is that there is a problem only if a team has two rivalries listed for Week 15. Meaning that it might be possible for this situation to work (please test): [CODE] Id Team Rival Week of the Game 38 Oklahoma Texas Any 37 Oklahoma State Oklahoma 15 41 Texas Oklahoma Any 39 Texas A&M Texas 15 [/CODE] I'm hoping that as long as there are no Week 15 conflicts it will work.

[wareagle]

I would say that while Ala-Aub are true rivals, Tennesse rival needs to also be listed as Alabama so that they always play. Since Ten-Van are in the same division, will they not always be shceduled anyways? So making the Ten rival as Ala should suffice the scheduling. Same goes for Aub-Ala with Georgia. This is trickier though since UGA rival is GT and out of conf. I guess listing the Aub-Uga game in the schedule table would work.