Hive Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 How's this coming along Hive? It's on hiatus at the moment. I need to be sure in my approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadCeleb Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 understandable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payne Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 What I can say, Hive, is that I'm really looking forward to this. Although it may seem like a grand undertaking, the fact that you are putting this much thought into it makes it almost certain to be a good mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 What I can say, Hive, is that I'm really looking forward to this. Although it may seem like a grand undertaking, the fact that you are putting this much thought into it makes it almost certain to be a good mod. I second this. This is the Mod I'm most excited about at this time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payne Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Please tell me you haven't given up, Hive. I"ll help if I can, because this is the ONLY mod I'm truly looking forward to. You seem to have the thought process of wanting to put out the best, and I believe this mod will be. I'm sure it's not easy, frustrating, and time consuming, but your name will go down in history if you pull this off And, with all respect to you, I think DJ's conversion to be the best. It's just very balanced for someone like me, who DOES like to mix the default with the Mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 I haven't given up, I've just put it on temporary hold for the rest of the year. Thanks for the support guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wudu Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Hi guys, Longtime Greydogger, first time poster. When I read Hive was making a 1991 mod for Marvel, I was thrilled, since that was the peak of my comics enjoying childhood. But when I saw that it wasn’t ready yet, I thought maybe I would make myself a little mod to tide me over. I figured I could just use those Marvel cards, since they had set strength/agility/stamina ratings and I wouldn’t have to do a lot of ratings estimation and balancing. I started planning to make 100 characters and a few locations and just noodle about. That was more than a month ago. Now I things have grown beyond my original scope, and I have about 450 characters, 28 locations and 40 teams in my mod, all with relationships. I couldn't stop. Here’s a summary of what I’ve done so far, and I would estimate that I’m about 75% complete with a “version 0.9” of the Marvel mod. Characters: 450+ I’ve tried to put in more Villains than Heroes, to balance things as the Default universe is, but I’ve ended up with a lot more Anti-Heroes and Wild Cards than I expected. I’ve stretched the roster quite a bit, including nobodies like Bobster (aka Hyperton 1.0, who fought Spider-man all of once) and Coldheart (best known for blowing up) as unknowns. As far as Marvel timelines, most characters are in kind of a mid-90s medley. Nowhere specific, just where I remember their storyline the best, or where they are most iconic. For example, Spider-man is probably post “Maximum Carnage,” but X-Factor still has the original X-Men running it. I also made the Hulk stupid, because that is the only way he is interesting. Generally my comics knowledge runs right up to what I like to call the “Onslaught Wall”, which is right about when I stopped reading and started liking girls instead. I have included some “yet to debut” characters (Exiles, some Generation X mutants) or characters that were killed (Doug Ramsey, Beyonder) to create a situation where they debut or resurrect. Completion: 66%. I’ve got vitals, abilities and schemes done on everyone. Attributes, travel and personality done on about 25%, and Power and Dialogue done on 0%. Alternates are also at 0%, but my understanding of how those really work is lacking. Teams: 40 I’ve included a lot more teams than originally intended, everyone from the mainstays like the Avengers to the unknowns like the B-Team and Technet. I’m a little unclear on how the “team type” dynamic works, or if teams with rotating membership will be able to function like that. Otherwise I’ve tried to make some permanent teams “loyal” using relationships and companion status. The Imperial Guard, for instance, has everyone allies and companions with Gladiator, so they follow him everywhere. Some species I’ve also made into teams, so the Skrulls and the Kree can have populations and a monarch. ATD: Areas, 3; Timeline, 1; Dimensions, 2 The areas are Earth, Space, and The Rift. Earth consists of urban cities (China, Japan, Europe, Houston, Los Angeles, New York, Madripoor and Portland, where I live now), some rural areas (Canada and Scottsbluff, NE where I grew up, which represents kind of a middle of nowhere escape for the Hulk to sulk in), some remote jungles (Genosha, Wakanda, South America, The Savage Land) and a few bases for the groups (Xaviers, Asteroid M, Atlantis, The Moon). Space consists of some homeworlds (Hala for the Kree, Tarnax for the Skrulls, Chandilar for the Shi’ar), some wildcard planets (Zenn-La, Titan, Mojoworld and Battleworld), and then “Deep Space”, a nebulous cluster**** for creatures between worlds like the Brood or Galactus. I’ve chosen to put extra-dimensional enemies like Mojo and Annihilus in Space rather than the Mojoverse or the Negative Zone just so they show up more often and have more to do. The Rift is all alternate dimensions. Asgard and Limbo are all I’ve put in here, with Limbo being more of a repository for all the evil demons like Mephisto, Dormammu, etc. Otherwise there are too many hell dimensions in the Marvel Universe. Overall, the locations are admittedly unbalanced when it comes to hero/villain content. I’m hoping that won’t be an issue, but we shall see. Only put in one timeline, because that shit gets too confusing. Relationships: 575+ I’ve tried to use my knowledge of pre-90s comics to include everyone’s likes, dislikes, loves, hates and families, but I’ve been leaning heavy on the Marvel Wiki. I went through these characters one by one and tried to include every important relationship, and believe me with incestuous ****ers like the Asgardians and the Inhumans, it gets tough. So where it stands, it’s a good news/bad news situation. The Good news: I’m confident in my knowledge of the comics. I wasted a fair potion of my childhood on this stuff, and they’re stories I remember pretty well. I put together a spreadsheet with about 30 tabs (possibly an exaggeration) to try and make the abilities reasonably representative. I think I did a fair job representing space and other dimension while still making it about Earth-616. The relationships are pretty thorough, and the teams are mostly there. I think this is going to make a damn good starting place for anyone who wants to make their own Marvel mod, and I’m totally willing to let them. I’ll share the half baked file and the methodology I used to concoct everything. Go nuts, whoever wants to. The Bad news: Powers. I’m stumped on how to balance these. I’ve investigated the default universe, but I can’t figure how to represent these adequately. Probably has something to do with me spending 99% of my time in the game using the editor and 1% playing the game. This is where I need the help of intrepid modders like yourself. I’ve also decided not to include alternates (Dark Phoenix and Puny Bruce Banner would be nice, but I don’t know how to create them so they don’t show up constantly or get stuck that way) or dialogue (way more effort than it’s worth). Also, nothing has been playtested yet. Shit could go sideways from the word go. Venom might marry Aunt May, Galactus might eat Wolverine, I don’t know. Like I said, my experience actually playing the game is limited. I’m a database dork at heart. I did the same thing with the WMMA games. Another final caveat: This universe isn’t accurate. I’ve tailored it to my remembrances, and while I did read a lot of comics and comic summaries, I was an X-Men/Spider-Man/Excalibur reader. I don’t know two shits about the Avengers other than the big stuff. I don’t know much about Iron Man. There might be gaps, missing villains or civilians. Also, since this is a game, there might be some “Oh that shit would NEVER happen” moments. For instance, Galactus/Beyonder characters are a little bit neutered. Sure, they’re the most power guys in the game, but someone like Thor or Hulk might have a punchers chance of winning. Ok, whew. Shit. If you’ve read through this much, congrats, you’re a goddamn champ. Maybe you’re interested in helping. My plan is to finish the attributes/travel/personalities then make the universe file available to you guys publicly. Maybe someone will finish the powers and we’ll all have a working Marvel mod, or maybe someone will use this shell to create something wholly different. Either way, fine with me. PS, if you would like to play with the file now, or look over my spreadsheet, PM me. I’m glad to share any and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wudu Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I've finished the attributes for each character, so I thought I would post my progress. Here is the link. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UBO2PLSP Keep in mind this is still an unplayable work in progress. No one has powers or dialogue; I believe everything else is done. I'm going to take a stab at concocting some balanced and consistent powers, but I thought I would post what I have so far, since it's honestly a lot, in case one of the other folks I know who are working on Marvel Mods can play with it, use it for spare parts, merge some of these characters into their db or at least learn from any errors I've made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wudu Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Here is the image file I've been working with. Kinda big, but it is 460 characters. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4HEY7A5E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wudu Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Sorry to anyone who has messaged me about the Marvel Mod, I don't have enough posts to send PMs. I'm going to try to work on the Powers this coming week, but real life is encroaching my neutral zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wudu Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I think I've created myself a nice template for the powers, so I'll be plowing through those this week. After some refining, I got halfway through B, alphabetically. Maybe another week or three before I get something playable. Additionally, if anyone is feeling like they want to contribute, I could use a writer. Currently no one has dialogue (combat will probably be a quiet affair for a while) and I've just been putting character's secret identities in their "Biographies" section. All I'd need is some text to cut and paste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I think I've created myself a nice template for the powers, so I'll be plowing through those this week. After some refining, I got halfway through B, alphabetically. Maybe another week or three before I get something playable. Additionally, if anyone is feeling like they want to contribute, I could use a writer. Currently no one has dialogue (combat will probably be a quiet affair for a while) and I've just been putting character's secret identities in their "Biographies" section. All I'd need is some text to cut and paste. Alot of the wiki and database websights, have actual "quotes" by heroes and villains, and most the time you can tell who they are refering to. Dialogue, although I love it in game, is the most frustrating part of modding, I've found (well, now that I think I have my balance issue's under controll). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wudu Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Just finished the powers through "M" tonight. Halfway through the alphabet, more than halfway through the characters. Will likely have something playable next week. I'll release a "1.0" version based on these untested powers for people to play with and tweak, then I'll go back and do some balancing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerfer Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 too bad that this Sopa and Pipa b.s have brought Megaupload down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wudu Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yeah, anyone know a good alternative site to host these files? I'm through "R." 132 more characters to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsadighi Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 sendspace.com is a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerfer Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Apparently, these sites are in the line of fire atm: MegaUpload - Closed. Thank you for using Megaupload.com. We wish you all the best for 2012. FileServe - Closing does not sell premium. FileJungle - Deleting files. Locked in the U.S.. UploadStation - Locked in the U.S.. FileSonic - the news is arbitrary (under FBI investigation). VideoBB - Closed! would disappear soon. Uploaded - Banned U.S. and the FBI went after the owners, who are gone. FilePost - Deleting all material (so will leave executables, pdfs, txts) Videoz - closed and locked in the countries affiliated with the USA. 4shared - Deleting files with copyright and waits in line at the FBI. MediaFire - Called to testify in the next 90 days and it will open doors pro FBI Org torrent - could vanish with everything within 30 days "he is under criminal investigation" Network Share mIRC - awaiting the decision of the case to continue or terminate Torrente everything. Koshiki - operating 100% Japan will not join the SOUP / PIPA Shienko Box - 100% working china / korea will not join the SOUP / PIPA ShareX BR - group UOL / BOL / iG say they will join the SOUP / PIPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payne Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I wonder if Hive minds this hijacking, lol. And, where has he been lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wudu Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Finally finished entering the powers. I'm going to do some play testing tomorrow and maybe the next day to make sure it isn't utter crap, then post it...somewhere. I'll look into those sharing sites to see if any work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wudu Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I wonder if Hive minds this hijacking, lol. And, where has he been lately? I hope he doesn't mind. He's going to get some credit in my database file for laying the foundation. I hope he puts out his version as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike b Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 REMEMBER what Adam stated that all mods are to be considered open sharing. But giving hive credit is a nice thing to do since he is a nice guy:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 I hope he doesn't mind. He's going to get some credit in my database file for laying the foundation. I hope he puts out his version as well. I don't mind the least bit, I think it's great if I have inspired others in some way. I'm very impressed with your advances, keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natureboy2003 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 <p>Repost Link?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Wudu" data-cite="Wudu" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="32612" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've finished the attributes for each character, so I thought I would post my progress. Here is the link. <p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UBO2PLSP" rel="external nofollow">http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UBO2PLSP</a></p><p> </p><p> Keep in mind this is still an unplayable work in progress. No one has powers or dialogue; I believe everything else is done. I'm going to take a stab at concocting some balanced and consistent powers, but I thought I would post what I have so far, since it's honestly a lot, in case one of the other folks I know who are working on Marvel Mods can play with it, use it for spare parts, merge some of these characters into their db or at least learn from any errors I've made.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hi, you did a great work! Can you repost the download link of your mod? Thank you!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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