Nathers7 Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="D-Lyrium" data-cite="D-Lyrium" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've never managed to work out how to join in with other people's wars, outside of crushing rebels along my border (which the Kaiser is thankful for, since he declared war on and then completely destroyed Prussia, then left it alone with no real thought to the consequences).<p> </p><p> Also, is it possible to join a battle between two of your vassals, and take the side of one of them? The heir to the duchy of Greater Poland is in my pocket, but the current Duke is a bit of a tit, so now that Greater Poland has gone to war with poor little Kuyavia, I'd quite like to help Kuyavia out, but I don't seem to be able to do so. Understandably I can't declare war on vassals...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You can't join in wars between your vassals, the only way to stop them fighting each other is to increase your crown authority. Obvious disadvantage to that though is they will plot more against you.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="D-Lyrium" data-cite="D-Lyrium" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've never managed to work out how to join in with other people's wars, outside of crushing rebels along my border (which the Kaiser is thankful for, since he declared war on and then completely destroyed Prussia, then left it alone with no real thought to the consequences).<p> </p><p> Also, is it possible to join a battle between two of your vassals, and take the side of one of them? The heir to the duchy of Greater Poland is in my pocket, but the current Duke is a bit of a tit, so now that Greater Poland has gone to war with poor little Kuyavia, I'd quite like to help Kuyavia out, but I don't seem to be able to do so. Understandably I can't declare war on vassals...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's pretty simple, assuming you're on the recent patch. Just go into diplomacy with someone you're not involved with (rebelling vassal or lord of another kingdom or other independent third party), and there should be an offer to join war at the bottom of the list of options, and then you just select the war- it's possible for them to reject, but in practice it doesn't happen often, since they appreciate the help. But you can't join a war against your own lord or with your lord against a rebelling vassal (since you fight any wars your lord fights anyway).</p><p> </p><p> As far as getting involved in wars between vassals, as mentioned, if you increase crown authority you can stop vassals from in-fighting (they can still do annoying things like join crusades you're purposely avoiding, declare war on third parties, and otherwise act autonomously). You can also take more drastic action by revoking titles if you feel like a duke is pushing others around and seems poised to make a power play, although most vassals will fight this decision if they can. I usually wait until they openly rebel (they always do eventually), then lock them up and prune their titles a bit to make sure their son won't have quite the same power base to fight me with. Just keep in mind that once you go that route, you pretty much have to keep the rebelling duke in jail until he dies, since he will be an enemy for life after losing even a single county.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 <p>Is it just me or is there no way to back out to a main screen? Everytime I wanna leave my game to check out a tutorial I have to quit all the way out to desktop and restart the whole game.</p><p> </p><p> Another quick question: does an army rebuild itself? </p><p> </p><p> I cant figure out how to replenish lost troops. One of my vassals didnt like me and rebelled and I kicked his army's butt all over the place, attempted a siege and failed. Now that army is down to 14 men and seems to not grow anymore, and I can't raise any more personal levies for myself. Why? Not sure yet but I'm sure theres a good explanation.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 You have to Resign, rather than Quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is it just me or is there no way to back out to a main screen? Everytime I wanna leave my game to check out a tutorial I have to quit all the way out to desktop and restart the whole game.<p> </p><p> Another quick question: does an army rebuild itself? </p><p> </p><p> I cant figure out how to replenish lost troops. One of my vassals didnt like me and rebelled and I kicked his army's butt all over the place, attempted a siege and failed. Now that army is down to 14 men and seems to not grow anymore, and I can't raise any more personal levies for myself. Why? Not sure yet but I'm sure theres a good explanation.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No, an army doesn't rebuild itself- as soon as it's mustered, it starts dropping men (although not to the extent it should when it comes to the HRE marching thousands of men across continental Europe) to desertion, disease, battle, etc. To replace lost troops, you've got a couple of options. If your whole force has been basically wiped, go to the military screen and dismiss all levies; that will send everybody home. Try to do this when you're in your own territory to avoid extra desertion. The military screen will show how much of a force you have available to call at that point in time, as well as your maximum levy once your troops regenerate, which usually takes a year or two. Once your troop level is healthy, re-muster everybody.</p><p> </p><p> If it's just one army that's been wiped out, just click on the singular army and disband it, and the same process will start, but won't leave you completely drained. Small-scale wars basically have to be fought like this, with basically an "off" season where you're technically at war, even if no one can really do anything for awhile.</p><p> </p><p> Oh, and other than fighting battles, which are pretty straightforward in terms of bigger army usually prevailing, sieges really are more of a long-term option. Don't try to assault a holding unless you've got a huge army to back you up- at least 7 or 8 times the size of the garrison, although I try to get over 10X to play it safe. Also if your army is big enough at a certain point you'll take food shortage losses heavier than direct assault losses, but that'll only come up if you're a king tossing around stacks of 20K troops.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Also, in a pinch, don't forget the Mercenaries on the military tab. A few hundred ducats dropped on a professional fighting force can save you loads of time/energy/men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 <p>So i messed with all the tutorials and messed around a bit but the game went to crap I didnt know what was going on. So I started over as the guy from Munster. I have a game I'm playing for about 2 hours. There are all kinds of problems I'm encountering with the game. I keep getting a popup that my vassals are pissed at me and wanting to revolt. There are children who I've set guardians to that for whatever reason the game doesn't recognize because I still have all the alerts for that. I was named "the careless"... </p><p> </p><p> Frustrating to say the least.</p><p> </p><p> The interface is complex. Having absolutely no experience with a game quite like this, it is taking me awhile to get my head around. I'm impressed at the sheer amount of stuff you seem to be able to do. I still just don't understand what is going on and why certain things are happening.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 If you wanna hit me up on MSN later (crimsonthunder@gmail.com) I can try to help you out a bit if you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 <p>All right, so I just got done playing my first ten hour run of a dynasty with Gwynned. I figured, you know, try and keep Wales alive, maybe make it to Kingdom and hold out as long as possible against the English (scum).</p><p> </p><p> But I somehow, I went all out. I conquered every single province necessary to form the Kingdom of Wales (including Cornwell and Devon), humbling the English crown in two different wars to do so. Unfortunately I faced a set back when the child king I humbled grew up into an awesome ass-kicking machine who married into the Danish & Imperial families, granting him the most powerful allies he needed to keep his throne against no less than three different wars led by his own nobles (that I was invited to and took part in!).</p><p> </p><p> After the third failed attempt in 1096 (the intent to make England’s crown elective), I went “**** it, this boss is here to stay, let him.”, so I decided to go invade Ireland. Because why not, right? I mean it’s Ireland. <em><em>That’s what they’re there for.</em></em></p><p> </p><p> So I fabricate a claim for Dublin and invade the Duchy of Leinster, overthrowing another child lord (not the last times). And as soon as I invaded my Chancellor just got his shit together. He started fabricating claims across all of Ireland, year-by year. I shit you not, I’d be right in the middle of invading say Ossory, and he’d be like “Dude, just got you this little claim on Desmond. You In?”</p><p> </p><p> And I’d be like “That’s nice, dude but I’m kinda in the middle of something with my money kinda shrinking-”</p><p> </p><p> “WHAT’s THAT, BRO? I CAN’T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF YOUR PUSSY WHINING!”</p><p> </p><p> “… ****ing hell, do it.”</p><p> </p><p> By the time he was done I was so far into Ireland that all was left was Tyrone/Tyroncell under the Duke of Ulster, and Ulster itself under the Gallowayians. This was such a dick move right here: I invaded Galloway and took Ulster and the Duchy title from under him right before I made myself King of Ireland, and then I declared war on him with the ultimate objective of making him my bitch. I took Tyrone first and gave it to my grandson, before making him kneel and kiss my sword. I was flying so high, I married two of my sons to Duchesses in England. That’s right ladies these be my progeny. Come get them.</p><p> </p><p> After that, I invaded Galloway again and took Carrick just for laughs, before launching my armies north into Scotland and placing my uncle on the throne.</p><p> </p><p> … And that’s where things started going to shit. My ungrateful uncle decided to you know, “appease the nobles” and place the Duke of Moray as his heir, instead of the badass 80 year old ************ who’d carved a bloody trail of corpses across the Isles. So what did I go and do?</p><p> </p><p> <em>I started a ****ing shadow war.</em></p><p> </p><p> I murdered, <em>I shit you not, </em>a total of <strong>six </strong>chosen heirs to the throne of Scotland, and another <strong>six </strong>of <em>their </em>heirs. There was so much noble blood dripping on Scottish soil you’d think the communists were running lynch mobs. I was like “come on, at some point you’re going to have to give up here.”</p><p> </p><p> And unfortunately, I got caught before he did, so I ended up backing off. Which was around the time I noticed my nephews were getting a bit uppity, just right before I died. Leaving my ten year old grandson King of Ireland and Wales.</p><p> </p><p> ****.</p><p> </p><p> Every single **** not under my direct control rose up in rebellion. My uncle Edwig (who creeply as **** married his sister in law, aka MY MOTHER YOU ASSHOLE), was the biggest threat, having been given the Duchies of Connachat and Ulster by his father (Thanks Gramps, you trusting dick), and proceeded to raise two thousand men to his banners. My other uncle, Duke of Munster and Leister something I can’t remember raised his banners as well, as did the Irish Counts of Desmond and Tyroncall, and the Lord Mayor of Osmond. Basically, every bastard with a sword in Ireland decided “Time for a war.”</p><p> </p><p> Now, I thought I could win this. I was about to revoke their titles with the four thousand mercenaries I’d been intending to use on the Gallowayans, so I was like “Bring It”. But I forgot that without all the money I’d been bringing in those ****ers would turn fast. Which they did, fighting each other, myself and the rebel lords in a ****ing bloodbath across Ireland and Carrick. And in the meantime, I was trying to survive. I slowly cut down every ****er and brought them to white peace, before I made the mistake of trying to imprison Edwig which brought him back on the table as to war.</p><p> </p><p> So after all my armies got shredded, and most of the rebels got the same, it was me versus Edwig. I’d brought back to the fold everyone not named Edwig and I was planning to slowly cut him to death before giving him a white peace, and then kill them all five years down the line when I was an actual adult (and married to the Duchess of Anjou, hells yeah).</p><p> </p><p> And then what happens? The Gallowayins declare war for Carrick (and I surrendered it, no point in fighting for it when I had bigger concerns), and so did every ****er in the south. SO what did I do? I decided to surrender in to Lord Mayor of Osmond’s demands and place my uncle, Duke of York on the throne.</p><p> </p><p> But what no one told me is that he’d only have the crowns. Not the four duchies now in control of a 14 year old and still fighting for two kingdoms he’s not actually ruling (but is heir to).</p><p> </p><p> So at this point, I burnt out. I’m not thinking straight, I’m sick of all this insane shit. So I rebel against my uncle & king (whose making me his heir anyway), and align with Edwig (aka the creepy dude married to my mom).</p><p> </p><p> So yeah. That game’s a dead end right now.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Haha, that sounds awesome. I usually try to form a united Celtic nation, but Brittany ***** me over every single time. And the English don't like me taking Cornwall back either (even though, in 1066, they didn't have it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="D-Lyrium" data-cite="D-Lyrium" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Haha, that sounds awesome. <p> </p><p> I usually try to form a united Celtic nation, but Brittany ***** me over every single time. And the English don't like me taking Cornwall back either (even though, in 1066, they didn't have it!)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'd have conquered Britanny second instead of bothering with Scotland, but I've got no clue how to offload troops off of ships properly. The navy segment of the game is kind of clunky to me. </p><p> </p><p> I think I'll try Scotland next, then maybe one of the smaller counts in Norway.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Hah, I just tempted a claimant into my court, and he died the very next day. Bastard. The game claimed it was natural causes... I'm pretty sure it was a skilled assassin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd have conquered Britanny second instead of bothering with Scotland, but I've got no clue how to offload troops off of ships properly. The navy segment of the game is kind of clunky to me. <p> </p><p> I think I'll try Scotland next, then maybe one of the smaller counts in Norway.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Raise ships, merge them, then either put them into port and have your armies load, or leave them at sea, select your armies, then click on the sea tile where your boats are. It's far quicker than land movement.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Raise ships, merge them, then either put them into port and have your armies load, or leave them at sea, select your armies, then click on the sea tile where your boats are. It's far quicker than land movement.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So... you click on the closest sea tile to the land area I want to have them embark?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 To disembark, you just right-click the county you want to embark into. You have to have your ARMY selected, though, not the SHIP. Far easier than in EU3, at least. Damn that game... I arranged a marriage between my brother and a recently widowed Count's daughter, for basically the sole reason that she'd make a fantastic spymaster and mine sucks (the fact she happens to be the heir to the county of Nurnburg didn't cross my mind Meh, Germany's too far away to start wars anyway). Then I remembered that you can only appoint family members and vassal to your council. So now she's tutoring my most promising son (promising in the Intrigue stakes, anyway), just have to hope he doesn't become German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So... you click on the closest sea tile to the land area I want to have them embark?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You right-click on the sea tile where your boats are, if you're asking what I think you're asking.</p><p> </p><p> D-Lyrium, if your brother has titles within your realm, that son could end up adding that county to your empire when your sister-in-law dies.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unregistered Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 <p>I'm so happy with the new DLC announcement. I think it will add a world of new possibillities. Consindering I've already played a hundred or so hours, its awesome to have something that will really add to it. </p><p> </p><p> I've never played multiplayer, anyone got any experiences to share?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's pretty simple, assuming you're on the recent patch. Just go into diplomacy with someone you're not involved with (rebelling vassal or lord of another kingdom or other independent third party), and there should be an offer to join war at the bottom of the list of options, and then you just select the war- it's possible for them to reject, but in practice it doesn't happen often, since they appreciate the help. But you can't join a war against your own lord or with your lord against a rebelling vassal (since you fight any wars your lord fights anyway).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I still can't get this to work.</p><p> </p><p> The most recent situation is thus:</p><p> </p><p> I pressed a claim by my nephew (14 at the time) on a neighbouring county, and won the war to install him as Count (Duke, actually, though I don't get why since he only owns one of the three counties that make up the de jure Dukedom).</p><p> </p><p> Now he's 16, and the neighbouring Earl of Glamorgan (one of the two others in the dukedom) has pressed a claim and declared war on him.</p><p> </p><p> I seem to be powerless to help the poor chap out. The only option I seem to have is declaring war on him (he has two brothers, still of my court, who are claimants to his title too (I opted to press the claim of the eldest, the other two are still not of age)). Obviously I don't want to do that...</p><p> </p><p> When I move my troops into the province, they just stand there and do nothing. I'm on the latest patch according to Steam...</p><p> </p><p> To clarify, he's not my vassal. He's just a Duke that shares my dynasty. So I should be able to intervene, right?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Gah, the bloody idiot just lost the war. Not only does this mean that the Earl of Glamorgan now has a chance to usurp the whole Dukedom (which would make him equally as powerful as me) because he owns two thirds of it, but also it means he loses his claim. So now I have to use one of his brothers who've just come of age and turned out largely useless and install them as Duke. <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="D-Lyrium" data-cite="D-Lyrium" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I still can't get this to work.<p> </p><p> The most recent situation is thus:</p><p> </p><p> I pressed a claim by my nephew (14 at the time) on a neighbouring county, and won the war to install him as Count (Duke, actually, though I don't get why since he only owns one of the three counties that make up the de jure Dukedom).</p><p> </p><p> Now he's 16, and the neighbouring Earl of Glamorgan (one of the two others in the dukedom) has pressed a claim and declared war on him.</p><p> </p><p> I seem to be powerless to help the poor chap out. The only option I seem to have is declaring war on him (he has two brothers, still of my court, who are claimants to his title too (I opted to press the claim of the eldest, the other two are still not of age)). Obviously I don't want to do that...</p><p> </p><p> When I move my troops into the province, they just stand there and do nothing. I'm on the latest patch according to Steam...</p><p> </p><p> To clarify, he's not my vassal. He's just a Duke that shares my dynasty. So I should be able to intervene, right?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Gah, the bloody idiot just lost the war. Not only does this mean that the Earl of Glamorgan now has a chance to usurp the whole Dukedom (which would make him equally as powerful as me) because he owns two thirds of it, but also it means he loses his claim. So now I have to use one of his brothers who've just come of age and turned out largely useless and install them as Duke. <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not sure if you can intervene in equal level duchies' actions, but if you can, their should be a button at the bottom of the diplomacy screen, while the declare war option is at the top. Is the person your nephew was fighting also within your realm? Like I said, my only experience is involvement with completely independent (not lord or vassal) states.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 The guy he was fighting was outside my realm (as was he, as far as I know). My realm is Gwynedd (which I own), Perffedwlad (which I've recently usurped because it was the only interesting plot available ) and Powys (which I granted to my brother). Basically the top two-thirds of Wales, by land area. That makes up the Duchy of Gwynedd. I fought a war in Dyfed (the south-western bit of Wales), and had him installed as Duke. AFAIK he's not in my realm (he's not in my court, at least). The attacker was the Earl of Glamorgan (neighbouring county to him), who is independent. So as far as I know, it was a battle between two independent realms. When you did it, were you allies with either of the factions? Might have been and not realised it (I have several alliances I can't remember making, including allies with both kings in the Leon/Galicia war, and the king of Castille. So if Castille declare war on Leon too (always happens), I'll technically be allied with every side of it. Shame I chose to side with Galicia already...). That might be why. For some unfathomable reason, the nephew I installed as Duke isn't my ally... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathers7 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Unregistered" data-cite="Unregistered" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm so happy with the new DLC announcement. I think it will add a world of new possibillities. Consindering I've already played a hundred or so hours, its awesome to have something that will really add to it. <p> </p><p> I've never played multiplayer, anyone got any experiences to share?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Multiplayer is great, adds alot more strategy than fooling the AI. Danger though is that it can turn into a blobbing session with Human players swallowing the AI nations pretty quickly, with over 20 players in a game though there isn't much danger of huge blobbing.</p><p> </p><p> Joined a Game of Thrones Mod Multiplayer on the Paradox forums that starts tomorrow, currently there's 21 players applied, should be good crack <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Ohh, I found the Offer to Join War option. Definitely wasn't there in the earlier example, but this guy is an ally of mine, so that must be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 <p>Well, I tried to play as King of Scotland...</p><p> </p><p> How the hell does the King of Scotland have less power than the Duke of Gwyneed? Seriously pathetic stuff right there...</p><p> </p><p> Going to try a Duke of Moray run tommorrow, since he's clearly the main power in the Kingdom, besides the Saxon scum that is the Duke of Lothian (another wtf...).</p><p> </p><p> Edit: Tried the Duke of Moray, much better than the King of Scotland. Only problem was that I switched to Agnatic Gavelkind early on to prevent my sister & daughters from ruining the run, but then my only son died of pneumonia. I had a bastard grandson, but apparently he doesn't count as a member of my dynasty for some reason? wtf?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 No matter what I do my vassals get pissed at me and HOW THE HECK DO I EDUCATE A CHILD? I've gone into diplomacy, picked a child, picked a guardian, it is accepted and ll is fine... NOTHING HAPPENS! NOTHING. The alert just stays up that I've got all these damn kids to educate. Is it normal to spend like 100 years not doing much? I have no money and with no money I have no means of getting troops. Oh ya and typhoid fever just wiped out two possible future council members and another 5 people in my court... Trying to get into this game has been little more than an exercise in frustration. This game is interesting and I want to understand it but I'm thinking it's just not for me. Luckily I didnt spend full price on it but I hate to put down a game I just purchased. I simply am not getting the appeal. There's a ton of stuff you can supposedly do, but the interface is unnecessarily complicated and the tutorial system in that game is garbage. It explains basically 25% of the game. And does it in a very boring manner. If it was just easier somehow to do the things you need to do then this game would easily be the best strategy game I've ever played. But it's not. There's always 10 backwardass steps to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 No matter what I do my vassals get pissed at me. It happens over time due to a variety of things. Personality conflicts, you pissing them off, them getting too greedy... You'll never please them all. I've gone into diplomacy, picked a child, picked a guardian, it is accepted and ll is fine... NOTHING HAPPENS! NOTHING. The alert just stays up that I've got all these damn kids to educate. Either you have a bug or you're doing it wrong. Is it normal to spend like 100 years not doing much? I have no money and with no money I have no means of getting troops. ... Who the hell are you playing with? I've done Duke of Gwyneed, Count of Beirut, Duke of Barcelona, King of Scotland and Duke of Moray. If you pick a decent enough starting location, you'll do fine. If you pick a backwater country and county, then yeah, you're toast. Kinda how reality works. Oh ya and typhoid fever just wiped out two possible future council members and another 5 people in my court... Never had that yet. Been mostly dealing with Measles. But it is the Dark Ages after all... I simply am not getting the appeal. There's a ton of stuff you can supposedly do, but the interface is unnecessarily complicated and the tutorial system in that game is garbage. It explains basically 25% of the game. And does it in a very boring manner. If it was just easier somehow to do the things you need to do then this game would easily be the best strategy game I've ever played. But it's not. There's always 10 backwardass steps to do anything. ... Dude, this is the easiest Paradox game so far, besides maybe Victoria 2. The system is pretty easy to figure out on the first couple of runs, even if the intracies of politicking and placing your heirs into places of power can get difficult to achieve. Example: Start with Duke of Gwynned. (My) Typical Objectives: Survive the Kingdom of England, create the Kingdom of Wales, conquer Ireland & create the Kingdom of Ireland. Path-line: You remove your only vassal to take control of his province by either Revoke Title or Plot to Revoke Title, then proceed to conquer the three provinces below yours. You do so by using your Chancellor to Fabricate Claims, which if successful, will cost you money and prestige to complete. But then you get a claim on that province, allowing you to declare war. Rinse and repeat with all three provinces, and you have 6 out of 8 provinces that comprise the Kingdom of Wales. Now, you can take two different paths after this. You can (a) Create the Kingdom of Wales, an expensive effort that makes you a bit more of an obvious enemy for the Kingdom of England. Or you can (b) create a second Duchy, and either continue an independent path or swear fealty to England, and proceed to conquer it from within or use its safety to slowly conquer Ireland. Again, you have your Chancellor Fabricate Claim a province before moving in with a war to take it. Right there's a basic path-line for a test game if you want to see how well you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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