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This thread's purpose is for posting 'booking formulas' which should be consided as some sort of algorithm or recipe for booking. There are a lot of creative ways to book an MMA promotion, so let's see with what you guys can come up. I'm curious. :D I'm using some of the following systems in my WEFF game, as you are working with a big group of people from the same weight.

 

Preface:

 

I've tried a 'league' system, but due to the medical clearance types that can take up to 4 months following a KO, it's just not feasable. If you want to try this I recommend modding the database to set fighters' RECUPERATION stat to 1 so they will be able to compete in a week's time following a win. You can disable preparation times through the in-game editor/options (arcade style booking). But even then, it's still hard as a lot of players will lose a lot of time and you only have 3 events a month if held simultaneously. But it might work if your league size is around 8. It'd be 2 years. To counter this I found it better to have events on a continuous basis, in which every league participant needs to fight, which is currently only possible if take 'teams' as participants.

 

This in mind, here are some of my own to try out, for those that are interested:

 

Team Round Robin (TRR)

 

Settings:

- Recuperation stat to 0 or 1

- Preparation stat to 0 or 1 (optional)

 

*Divide 20 (or 30) fighters from the same weight class into 4 (or 6) groups, named ABCD(EF). Alternatively, you can use 1 person of each weight class, though this will complicate things as your reserves fighters need to be really flexible in their weight, unless you make it open weight fights (not recommended for fairness purposes). Obviously you can just have teams of 6-10 fighters so you'll always have fighters. It's just harder to achieve considering they need to fight at the same weight.

* Attribute some fighters to each team as 'reserves' for those with a heavy medical clearance period. 2 should normally do the trick (but use the first one whenever possible).

*Have the teams fight in a round robin tournament, so each team faces the other teams once. In the case of 6-8 teams, you can form 2 groups or 'pools'. The winners of the pools face off in the finals.

*Have all teams square off in a single event consisting of 5 bouts. You can also opt for a 2 out of 3 series (or 3 out of 5) but this could make the tournament take ages (literally).

*The team with the most wins wins the game, be it 5-0, 3-2 or 4-1. If there's a draw, you can use the amount of finishes as a tiebreaker, with the quickest KO serving as a ultimate tiebreaker.

*The team with the most wins wins the tournament. As a tiebreaker, the same applies (amount of finishes). Example: For a 4-team TRR: Team A's results are 5-0 (vs B), 2-3 (vs C) and 2-2-1 (vs D, who won by tiebreaker). Now, in this example Team A came in last, though they actually assembled more fight wins then the rest of the teams (9 wins, vs 8,7,5 -> all with more finishes). If you think this is unfair, I suggest this alternative method:

 

Alternative scoring method:

 

You can also score the matches by points. This is imo the best setup for a UFC-style promotion (3 5-min rounds).

 

-Finish by (T)KO or submission: 4-0

-Decisive finish, won 3 rounds: 3-0

-Decisive finish, won 2 rounds: 3-1

-Split finish: 2-1

-Draw: 1-1

 

To determine who won the rounds, you can use the game's judging (they mention it during the match), or you can score it yourself. If you don't watch the fights yourself, I recommend considering it as a 3-0 scoring.

 

GP Tournaments

 

For those that like the idea of having an exclusively tournaments promotion, here are some formulas to spice up your game:

 

U will consistently put on tournaments (or Grand Prix's) like normal, but you can fix them to a certain area and timezone and have special rulesets apply. You can even set them to certain weight classes.

 

Example, for GAMMA/UFC: (rule changes from default GAMMA/UFC rules mentioned)

 

- GP California: 5x5 min, ring, closed guard off

- GP Las Vegas: 3x5 min, no ref, 10 count

- GP Miami: 1x15 min, no g&p, no ref

- GP Colombus: 10x3 min, no elbows

- GP Honolulu: 1x60 min, ring, 10-count, soccer kicks & knees on

- GP (...)

 

Obviously these are interchangable. Try and have 'special' events set on one particular date, for example "GP Miami on sat, wk3, august". I personally went with 6 GP's. Problem is that only 8 people can qualify for it. You can select the participants based on their P4P ranking, or have GPT's (trials) on the off months in which you stage single matches to determine the list of participants. You have to plan ahead though, as fighters will need recuperation more often than not, to the trials for an event should be 3 months before GP Miami should be held around wk3 may. Finally, you can either base your promotion around these events, or you can have them seperate from your original programming, ideally when bound to certain weight classes (for example: GP Miami is for HW's, etc.). It can be considered as some sort of World Championship, considering you're indeed emploting the best fighters, or manage to get association contracts from the rest (not likely).

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<p><span style="font-size:18px;">The Season-Based Method</span></p><p> </p><p>

This isn't a replica of Bellator, but it's kinda close. It's hard to do Bellator considering how injuries work and also how you can only do two PPVs a month (and only book one TV show at a time). Basically, each episode is dedicated to a specific weight class. You can just do four weight classes (one a month), or up to eight weight classes (two a month). You could do more if you wanted, more often, I guess. But for this example, let's say I do eight weight classes. Let's say this is the third season.</p><p> </p><p>

Season 03:</p><p> </p><p>

January:</p><p>

-Heavyweight </p><p>

-Flyweight</p><p>

February: </p><p>

-Light Heavyweight</p><p>

-Bantamweight</p><p>

March:</p><p>

-Middleweight</p><p>

-Featherweight</p><p>

Apr:</p><p>

-Welterweight</p><p>

-Lightweight</p><p> </p><p>

Now, this is season 3, all of them would named like: Heavyweight 3, Flyweight 3, etc etc. Each card would be like this:</p><p> </p><p>

Heavyweight 3 (or Heavyweight - Season 3)</p><p> </p><p>

-Defending Champion vs Last Tournament Winner</p><p>

-8-Man #1 Contendership Tournament</p><p>

-Lower Card Matches</p><p> </p><p>

Basically, it's like Bellator in that you have to win a tournament to get a title shot (except tournaments are one-night events, but it also ensures every fighter is working consistently). Each show is dedicated to one weight class and you have four months for the fighters to get ready for their next event. This gives you two shows a month. The tournament consists of the 3-10 ranked fighters, minus any fighters that have lost two or more in a row (so I skip them in the rankings). This is to ensure new fighters who are winning get in, as opposed to people who keep losing but are high-ranked. Finally, all the remaining fighters are booked according to rank, like 1v2, 3v4, etc. </p><p> </p><p>

So the tournament winner would be the 'Season 3 Heavyweight Tournament Winner' and the champion would be the 'Season 3 Champion'</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

Changes you could make:</p><p> </p><p>

-You could have the champion be IN the tournament each month as opposed to just fighting the last winner. Personally, I prefer to have the champion remain out of the tournaments, but one problem I've run into is having one guy make runner-up several times in a row, giving him a 2-1 record every time, while the champion only accumulates 1 fight per event.</p><p>

-You could do every three months as opposed to four. I do four because it's easier to manage people who won't be ready in time, but you could always skip them for an event if they miss out. Three months obviously means four events a year per weight class.</p><p>

-You could do less weight classes to start and add in weight classes later. Like Flyweight Season 4, followed by Women's Season 1.</p><p>

-One time I added a TV show to do every season for one weight class that was too big, in which I would take the bottom 8 fighters and put them in a tournament. Like a 'Second Chance' or 'Comeback' tournament. I like big rosters, though, and some people don't.</p><p>

-This is more of a 'rule' I put on myself sometimes (in any game, not just this one), but if someone has won like 3 tournaments or defended the title several times (like 3-5), I'll force them to change weight classes to ensure constant change. You don't want to do re-matches every other season because Raul Hughes keeps challenging James Foster.</p><p>

-Lastly, one suggestion with this method: Use the notepad or Excel (or even an in-game championship) or something to track tournament winners. The funnest thing for me is to see how many times people get to the final 2 or challenge for the belt. One time I had Demos Laskaratos(sp?) make runner-up in the Flyweight tournament four times in a row, and then...just kinda faltered. Also Karen Curtis was similar but she eventually changed weight and won.</p>

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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14px;">The Ladder Method</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

The idea of this type is to have the benefits of a non-subjective matchmaking type, like Bellator, but combine it with the reliability of a standard matchmaking philosophy. </p><p> </p><p>

<span style="text-decoration:underline;"><em><span style="font-size:12px;">How it works </span></em></span></p><p> </p><p>

Picture every division as a ladder, with the top of the ladder being your champion and the bottom of the ladder being the worst fighter on your roster. Once you have this pictured, now match the #1 vs the #2, the #3 vs. #4, the #5 vs. #6 and so on. Those are your next fights in that division; without exception. The winners of those fights move up or down the ladder based on their success against the opponent they face. a win, moves them up to a slot below the next winner, a loss brings them down to the next winner. Tiebreakers going to the higher rated seed. 1 beats 2, 4 beats 3, 5 loses to 6, 7 defeats 8, and 10 beats 9. Then your new ladder is 1-4-2-3-6-7-5-10-8-9.</p><p> </p><p>

Pretty self-explanatory, what do you gain?</p><p>

</p><ol style="list-style-type:decimal;"><li>You don't have to think about booking much<br /></li><li>prospects are never rushed<br /></li><li>Champions always face the most worthy contender<br /></li><li>Fairness is never an issue<br /></li><li>Keeps an even keel and doesn't allow for wild overreactions to flash outcomes<br /></li></ol><p></p><p> </p><p>

The drawbacks though are...</p><p>

</p><ol style="list-style-type:decimal;"><li>Some matchups have the potential to be seen more than 3 times.<br /></li><li>Champions can get locked into rematches<br /></li><li>Notepad is necessary to maintain your ladders<br /></li><li>Can take a long time for new acquisitions to climb the ladder.<br /></li><li>Injuries are killers forcing whole cards to shuffle in some cases.<br /></li></ol><p></p>

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<p>I have a bit of a combination of the season and ladder method.</p><p> </p><p>

I pick 4 divisions and then book each divisions show in a single month so no contender is left waiting. 4 divs works well and I use women, Light, Middle and Heavyweights.</p><p> </p><p>

The way I generally work it is to have two shows in one month and one is headlined by the title match and the other by the number 1 contenders match.</p><p>

You need a roster of about 30-40 people a div.</p><p> </p><p>

Each round I start a new 8 man tournament and the final will be the number 1 contender. This way your title match will always have tons of momentum (champ will have a minimum of a 4 match winning streak and the number 1 contender will have a minimum of a 3 match winning streak.)</p><p> </p><p>

Put whoever you want in the tournament but as it plays out over a year even a rookie will have time to develop between fights.</p><p> </p><p>

This formula is very simple and lets you focus on the business aspect of the game even if you like to fly through the years. </p><p> </p><p>

I know it might not appeal to everyone, especially the idea of have 4 divisions and booking only one division each month but 3 regular fights a year is more than most will get when they are sitting around waiting for fights to happen or people to recover.</p>

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<p>My formula for a mid-large size promotion is simple-</p><p> </p><p>

I book an event for every Saturday, week 3. Each show has a title match and a number 1 contender match. Because I have 6 divisions (SIGMA), Heavy to Feather, each champion has 2 defenses a year. On most cards, there are 12 fights, 2 from each division. Because I book shows at the start of a month, most fighters from the last 2 events are not available to book so you can see who has not fought for a while.</p><p>

There are loads of fights on the cards but doing this, provided fighters don't get injured, they get 2-3 fights a year. </p><p>

To determine number 1 contenders, I look at every fighter who are main event or co-main event status, then I look to see which ones are on winning streaks and then the 2 with the highest rep who are on streaks. Then they will fight in the Co-main event and the winner will face the champion in 3 months. </p><p>

An example of this contendership formula is Shaun Dico. He won fights against Zane Wybock and Osvald Kikkas in late 05- early 06. Hed then had a contender fight against Joshua Ziegler in August 06 which he won. He then recieved a title match in december againt Oleg Tariverdiev. After winning the title he defended it in June, against Artak Gevor and he will defend it in December against Casim Yenkini/Tomas Neto (regen)</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cymru96" data-cite="cymru96" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33904" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My formula for a mid-large size promotion is simple-<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> When I played SIGMA I had almost exactly the same system. Only it was wk4 and I selected no1 contenders on rating because I had only about 25 guys a weight class.</p><p> </p><p> It worked pretty well. When it comes down to it, the classic UFC booking method works best. This example is a lot like that, apart from the fact that UFC doesn't have an order and doesn't have no1 contenders matches. Sometimes you have to switch the defense order because of injuries, but it's still pretty solid.</p>
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<p>Great thread and do you think some of these would work in a UFC game with their roster been so frigging huge, because i'd love to try the season based method or the trr.</p><p> </p><p>

The ladder method is also cool but i tend to accidently use that in games not to perfection like you explain but i use rankings to determine some fights.</p>

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<p>I like to have each weight class fight 3x per year, so depending on the amount of weight classes, I will always plan it out with this in mind.</p><p> </p><p>

My current setup (6 weight classes), I do 3 events every 2 months. For example, 1 in Jan (Sat, Week 3) and then 2 for Feb (Sat, Week 1 and Sat, Week 3). </p><p> </p><p>

Each event is a PPV (you can mix in TV if you want, its not needed) and I focus on one weight class per event. This allows all fighters 3 fights per year. If you look at each group of 8 fights as a tournament, it will allow for fighters to develop, along with forcing each title fight to be with a challenger that has 4 wins in a row.</p>

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Great thread and do you think some of these would work in a UFC game with their roster been so frigging huge, because i'd love to try the season based method or the trr.

 

The ladder method is also cool but i tend to accidently use that in games not to perfection like you explain but i use rankings to determine some fights.

 

Sorry I saw this post so late, but...the season-based method generally limits the weight classes to around 30-40 (becaues you have to fit all the fighters on the card, plus an 8-man tourny)...however you could use a television show to put excess fighters on.

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Sorry I saw this post so late, but...the season-based method generally limits the weight classes to around 30-40 (becaues you have to fit all the fighters on the card, plus an 8-man tourny)...however you could use a television show to put excess fighters on.

 

Yeah seems about right number, could be worth ago with UFC on an older real world mod maybe not a newer one given the size of their roster these days. Also worth a try with a bellator, strikeforce, m-1 etc on latest mod.

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<p>I struggled to find a good booking method for UFC in MW11 for quite some time due to the size of the roster and limitations in advance booking for forward planning. And yet if I didn't use a system I lost interest quickly in the jumbled mess of a world created. In using some systems, I ended up with copious notes and after putting the game aside for a couple of days would come back and be utterly confused as to exactly what I was up to.</p><p> </p><p> I decided to experiment with various booking systems. Top 8 contender matches became too time consuming, as I would spend more time planning than actually enjoying fights.</p><p> </p><p> So I've come up with a method that is fast and simple. I can book 3-4 months in advance in about 20mins; and it keeps the match-ups interesting, ever-changing and often surprising.</p><p> </p><p> Here is my basic booking template for a 4-month ''season'':</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="33904" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>MONTH 1:<p> </p><p> TV Show:</p><p> </p><p> FLW1v2</p><p> HW11v12</p><p> LW11v12</p><p> WW13v14</p><p> FLW13v14</p><p> MW15v16</p><p> BW15v16</p><p> LHW17v18</p><p> FW17v18</p><p> </p><p> PPV:</p><p> </p><p> HW1v2</p><p> WW3v4</p><p> BW3v4</p><p> HW5v6</p><p> FW5v6</p><p> MW7v8</p><p> LW7v8</p><p> LHW9v10</p><p> FLW9v10</p><p> </p><p> MONTH 2:</p><p> </p><p> TV Show:</p><p> </p><p> BW1v2</p><p> MW11v12</p><p> BW11v12</p><p> HW13v14</p><p> LW13v14</p><p> LHW15v16</p><p> FW15v16</p><p> WW17v18</p><p> BW17v18</p><p> </p><p> PPV:</p><p> </p><p> LHW1v2</p><p> LW3v4</p><p> FLW3v4</p><p> LHW5v6</p><p> BW5v6</p><p> HW7v8</p><p> FW7v8</p><p> MW9v10</p><p> WW9v10</p><p> MONTH 3:</p><p> </p><p> TV Show:</p><p> </p><p> FW1v2</p><p> WW11v12</p><p> FLW11v12</p><p> LHW13v14</p><p> FW13v14</p><p> HW15v16</p><p> LW15v16</p><p> MW17v18</p><p> FLW17v18</p><p> </p><p> PPV:</p><p> </p><p> MW1v2</p><p> LHW3v4</p><p> FW3v4</p><p> FLW5v6</p><p> MW5v6</p><p> WW7v8</p><p> BW7v8</p><p> HW9v10</p><p> LW9v10</p><p> </p><p> MONTH 4:</p><p> </p><p> TV Show:</p><p> </p><p> LW1v2</p><p> LHW11v12</p><p> FW11v12</p><p> MW13v14</p><p> BW13v14</p><p> WW15v16</p><p> FLW15v16</p><p> HW17v18</p><p> LW17v18</p><p> </p><p> PPV: </p><p> </p><p> WW1v2</p><p> HW3v4</p><p> MW3v4</p><p> LW5v6</p><p> WW5v6</p><p> LHW7v8</p><p> FLW7v8</p><p> FW9v10</p><p> BW9v10</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <em>I just go by the in-promotion rankings on the first day of the new season. On that day, I consider the rankings set and unchangeable until the season is over.</em> As I can only book 3 TV shows in advance ATM, I take a screenshot of each division's rankings so that when I book the 4th TV show of the season I have a copy of the original, unchanged rankings there to go by.</p><p> </p><p> Every fighter up to rank 18 is booked in the 8 weight classes, higher rankings on PPVs, lower rankings on TV. ''Minor'' or lesser championships (in my opinion) are on TV events. I adjust card position and hype according to feedback as I book, so the order in the template is not set in stone. A title-holder who is not ranked one or two, his match still becomes a championship match and he fights in the main or co-main. </p><p> </p><p> Any unavailable fighters, or fighters who are being womanly and emotional and refuse to fight a friend (<img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) miss out on a match that season, and their place is taken by the next ranked in the weight division starting from No.19. This keeps things interesting, as a win for a No.19 or 20 could propel him up the ranks and shatter the championship prospects for his opponent for some time to come. An unavailable champion means the title is not fought for that season.</p><p> </p><p> I book TV shows on Friday of Week 2 each month and PPVs on Saturday of week 4, with the exception of months 4 and months 1, where recovery times can potentially become an issue between seasons - in this case I move month 4 events back a week and month 1 events forward a week. </p><p> </p><p> New signings, releases or transfers to Strikeforce are not a problem as the rankings, like I said, are set until the day after the last show of the season.</p><p> </p><p> Thus far I've found the system to work best for me, with my playing style, and I find it keeps the rankings and therefore match ups very dynamic and realistic, and (at least for me) interesting. So far I've had awesome cards (on the TV shows using lesser rankings the stacked divisions like LHW/HW always give good mains or co-mains even when ranked 11 through 18).</p><p> </p><p> Here is an example of how dynamic the rankings are: light heavyweights after one season:</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4458/lightheavies.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p> <span>http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8338/lightheavyweights.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p> Not realistic by any means, but it works for me.</p>
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I use a very simple booking method

 

10 fighters max per division (Heavyweight to Flyweight/Women's divisions)

 

Fighters coming off a win face fighters coming off a win

 

Fighters coming off a loss face fighters coming off a loss

 

Push for matches that are not rematches

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I use a very simple booking method

 

10 fighters max per division (Heavyweight to Flyweight/Women's divisions)

 

Fighters coming off a win face fighters coming off a win

 

Fighters coming off a loss face fighters coming off a loss

 

Push for matches that are not rematches

 

On what basis do you decide to terminate contracts? 2 or 3 losses?

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On what basis do you decide to terminate contracts? 2 or 3 losses?

 

Boof, i also have not been able to get into a mw11 game and your post was excellent and should help if i decide to give it another bash, with maybe a few tweaks from myself. I'd probably throw in an extra fight or two so the card is more stacked and maybe have 2 ppv's a month every other month. For eg one ppv in march and 2 ppv's in april and so forth.

 

On that question you asked spud, i usually go 3 losses and out but sometimes 4 if i really like the fighter.

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I use a very simple booking method

 

10 fighters max per division (Heavyweight to Flyweight/Women's divisions)

 

Fighters coming off a win face fighters coming off a win

 

Fighters coming off a loss face fighters coming off a loss

 

Push for matches that are not rematches

 

I essentially do this with an added step, I often try to book fighters who are within +/- 10 (sometimes 15) reputation of one another. This is an attempt to keep the young up and comers from getting thrown to the wolves too soon.

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