NBA GOD: Rewriting NBA history Part 1

KingofOldSchool · August 8, 2013

Playing sports games over the years, I always had an obsession with having total control. I play Franchise mode in every sports game I play. This game is no different, but better because I can relive seasons past. I've been putting off doing this, I'm all the way up to the 1980-81 offseason.

I'll start off by making observations and random factoids from the last 30+ seasons.

1. The Celtics have only won the NBA Title once.

2. The Cavaliers have a little dynasty going, they have won the the last 4 of 5 NBA Championships thanks to Dr. J dominating the league and they've been in 6 straight Finals, losing to the Sonics both times.

3. Speaking of Dr. J, he is a 5 time NBA MVP. However, Dolph Schayes has a so far record 7 MVP awards. Wilt Chamberlin has 6 as well.

4. Jerry West did not have the career he did IRL. Would this mean my NBA history would need a different logo?

5. Kareem is another guy who probably won't live up to the career he did IRL. Good career so far, but it doesn't look like he will be the all time scoring leader.

6. Speaking of which, Earl Monroe over took Wilt to become the new NBA all time scoring leader.

7. In case you're curious, Larry Bird ended up in Washington and Magic went to the Clippers.

I won't go too in depth with specific with past seasons, however for the seasons on, I will show the real life vs. game results such as MVP, Playoffs, Draft, etc.

If you want to know about any specific player and/or team, don't be hesitant to say something. I know it might be interesting to see what happened with a certain player or team.

Active Jerichoholic · August 8, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KingofOldSchool" data-cite="KingofOldSchool" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36523" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> 1. The Celtics have only won the NBA Title once. 7. In case you're curious, Larry Bird ended up in Washington and Magic went to the Clippers. </div></blockquote> <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> My poor Celtics. Anyway, looking forward to this nonetheless!

KingofOldSchool · August 8, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Active Jerichoholic" data-cite="Active Jerichoholic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36523" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> My poor Celtics. Anyway, looking forward to this nonetheless!</div></blockquote> Yeah they haven't been very good...1958 is the only time they won ANYTHING (Conference, division, NBA title). If it's any consolation, Bill Russell played his whole career in Boston in the game. Their current starting lineup consists of... C: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Just signed in the offseason) Darryl Dawkins They are both solid yellow ratings, sadly, so there is no clear cut starter there. PF: Mychal Thompson Solid blue rating, almost averaged a double double last season with 22 PPG and 9 RPG. SF: Bernard King Green/Blue...another 20+PPG scorer for the C's. SG: Billy Knight The star of the Celtics. Solid blue rating and a 4 time All Star. PG: Dennis Johnson A former Celtic in real life, skipped a stay in Seattle and has been with Boston his whole career so far. Currently with a green/blue rating. He hasn't really done as good of a job as he should be doing, so he will be pushed by rookie Kyle Macy who is currently at a solid blue rating.

DanMTheMan · August 8, 2013

How are the Lakers and Washington doing? I'm also curious to see Bird's career...

EDIT - Also, welcome to the Dynasty section! I'm sure trypio is happy to see another person start a thread here! I am!

KingofOldSchool · August 8, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DanMTheMan" data-cite="DanMTheMan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36523" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How are the Lakers and Washington doing? I'm also curious to see Bird's career... EDIT - Also, welcome to the Dynasty section! I'm sure trypio is happy to see another person start a thread here! I am!</div></blockquote> Lakers are 3 time NBA champs. They generally field pretty decent teams, but manage to get knocked out in the first round, however they have lost in the Finals a number of times. Their current lineup consists of C: Bill Walton Solid blue rating, has managed to stay injury free for the most part. 2 time All Star and won DPOY once. PF: Mike Green Solid blue rating. Leading scorer for the Lakers. 3 time NBA All Star. SF: Truck Robinson Another solid blue rating. Just picked him up in a trade with the 76ers as they needed a salary dump and the Lakers needed a better SF. He has been a NBA All Star once and won the All Star game MVP award as well. SG: Ralph Simpson Solid green. Former All Star and Most Improved Player. More of a role player in the starting 5. PG: Lionel Hollins Green/Blue rating. Could be a lot better, but still has room to improve.

DanMTheMan · August 8, 2013

Interesting...thanks for the quick reply!

KingofOldSchool · August 8, 2013

Now onto the Bullets...

The furthest they have gotten is the conference finals which they reached 5 different years.

They had some back luck for a while, but they rewarded with two great draft picks in Reggie Theus and Larry Bird, both of whom won ROTY in consecutive seasons.

Their current lineup

C:

James Edwards

An all blue rating. Good scorer who improved each of his first 3 seasons. His rebounding is a little low for a center, but averages 2 blocks per game.

PF:

Larry Kennon

An all green rating. He's the only true "veteran" in the starting 5 with a 7 year career. He's been a 2 time All Star, All Star game MVP, and won Most Improved Player.

SF:

Larry Bird

As expect he has an all purple rating. He managed 7 triple doubles in his rookie season along with being named an All Star, won the ROTY, and was on the All NBA First Team.

SG:

Reggie Theus

He's at a blue/purple rating. The previous season's ROTY.

PG:

Mo Cheeks

All green rating. He hasn't developed as well as he did in real life. He's just starting his 3rd season, so hopefully we will see improvement.

BHK1978 · August 8, 2013

I really like the concept of this diary because this is exactly how I play as well, so it is cool to see how your game turned out. Sadly for me for some reason in my game I picked fictional players at the start (Not sure why I did that) so I do not have real players in my "God" league.

With the Mavs being the newest team in the league at this point, I was wondering what they look like roster wise.

yeah826 · August 8, 2013

Larry Kenon

The original Dr. K

KingofOldSchool · August 9, 2013

With the Mavs being the newest team in the league at this point, I was wondering what they look like roster wise.

Since you asked...

C:

Joe Barry Carroll

David Vaughn

PF:

Kevin McHale

Lars Hansen

James Bailey

SF:

Gus Gerard

Abdul Jeelani

SG:

Charlie Scott

Jim Spanarkel

PG:

Mike Flynn

Wes Matthews

Gary Garland

KingofOldSchool · August 10, 2013

Mid season in the 80-81 season.

The All Star teams are missing a few big names due to injury. Alex English (Utah), George Gervin (NYK), Julius Erving (Cavs), and Larry Bird (Wash) are all out with injuries.

Now onto the teams:

East Starters:

C- Robert Parish (Pacers) 3rd selection

PF - Moses Malone (76ers) 3rd selection

SF - Dan Roundfield (Hawks) 5th selection

SG - Billy Knight (Celtics) 5th selection

PG - Gus Williams (76ers) 3rd selection (won All Star game MVP)

Bench:

C- Bill Cartwright (Nets) 1st selection

PF- Mickey Johnson (Pistons) 6th selection

SF- Campy Russell (Bucks) 2nd appearance

SG- Walter Davis (Nets) 3rd appearance

PG- Reggie Theus (Bullets) 1st selection

PF- Marvin Barnes (Hawks) 2nd selection

PF- Bobby Jones (Cavs) 2nd selection

West starters:

C- Artis Gilmore (Spurs) 5th appearance

PF- Alvan Adams (Blazers) 2nd appearance

SF- Truck Robinson (Lakers) 2nd appearance

SG- Adrian Dantley (Nuggets) 5th appearance

PG- Magic Johnson (Clippers) 2nd appearance

Bench:

C- Bob Lanier (Clippers) 10th appearance

PF- Maurice Lucas (Jazz) 4th appearance

SF- Spencer Haywood (Suns) 9th appearance

SG- Bob Dandridge (Sonics) 10th appearance

PG - David Thompson (Sonics) 5th appearance

PF- Dan Issel (Warriors) 11th appearance

C- Elmore Smith (Warriors) 4th appearance

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Real life All Stars from 80-81.

East:

Larry Bird (Celtics)

Julius Erving (76ers)

Artis Gilmore (Bulls)

Eddie Johnson (Hawks)

Reggie Theus (Bulls)

Nate Archibald (Celtics)

Robert Parish (Celtics)

Bobby Jones (76ers)

Marques Johnson (Bucks)

Micheal Ray Richardson (Knicks)

Mike Mitchell (Cavs)

Dan Roundfield (Hawks)

West:

Walter Davis (Suns)

Adrian Dantley (Jazz)

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Lakers)

Paul Westphal (Sonics)

George Gervin (Spurs)

Jamaal Wilkes (Lakers)

Moses Malone (Rockets)

Truck Robinson (Suns)

Jack Sikma (Sonics)

Dennis Johnson (Suns)

Otis Birdsong (Kings)

So 10 guys were All Stars both in the game and in real life.

The East won both games as well.

KingofOldSchool · August 10, 2013

1980 Mid season standings

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ATLANTIC W L PCT HOME DIV CONF

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76ers 29 14 .674 20-5 8-2 22-11

Bullets 29 15 .659 13-6 9-5 22-14

Knicks 25 21 .543 15-8 7-7 16-15

Nets 17 28 .378 9-12 4-8 12-19

Celtics 12 34 .261 8-14 3-9 9-25

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CENTRAL W L PCT HOME DIV CONF

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Bulls 29 15 .659 19-6 8-6 17-12

Cavaliers 29 17 .630 17-6 12-8 22-12

Hawks 26 21 .553 12-13 8-8 17-16

Pistons 24 25 .490 11-16 8-6 17-18

Pacers 23 25 .479 12-7 6-10 16-20

Bucks 20 24 .455 13-13 4-8 10-18

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MIDWEST W L PCT HOME DIV CONF

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Jazz 29 17 .630 15-6 13-6 25-13

Nuggets 28 18 .609 18-6 8-5 18-14

Spurs 26 20 .565 17-7 13-7 22-13

Kings 16 30 .348 12-11 7-12 13-21

Rockets 13 32 .289 8-13 6-7 9-22

Mavericks 12 34 .261 8-14 4-14 8-26

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PACIFIC W L PCT HOME DIV CONF

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Warriors 28 17 .622 14-6 12-5 23-10

Trail Blazers 26 16 .619 14-6 7-6 21-11

Lakers 24 21 .533 9-12 11-9 20-16

Clippers 20 26 .435 10-17 9-8 15-18

Suns 20 26 .435 14-10 7-10 16-17

SuperSonics 19 28 .404 7-15 3-11 12-21

KingofOldSchool · August 10, 2013

At the trading deadline, the dreadful Celtics made some moves.

Celtics trade Dennis Johnson to the Lakers for Billy McKinney and the Lakers 1981 1st round pick.

Johnson was relegated to a bench role for the Celtics, the Lakers needed a quality PG to start while Lionel Hollins is out with an injury as they are fighting for a playoff spot. McKinney is a solid backup for Kyle Macy in Boston and an extra 1st rounder will be good to help build the Celtics into a better team next season.

Celtics trade Bernard King to the Warriors for Kermit Washington and the Warriors 1982 1st round pick.

Celtics are trading one of their best players for a solid player in Washington and a 1st round pick next season. The Celtics now have 2 1st round picks the next two seasons.

Active Jerichoholic · August 10, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KingofOldSchool" data-cite="KingofOldSchool" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36523" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>At the trading deadline, the dreadful Celtics made some moves. Celtics trade Dennis Johnson to the Lakers for Billy McKinney and the Lakers 1981 1st round pick. Johnson was relegated to a bench role for the Celtics, the Lakers needed a quality PG to start while Lionel Hollins is out with an injury as they are fighting for a playoff spot. McKinney is a solid backup for Kyle Macy in Boston and an extra 1st rounder will be good to help build the Celtics into a better team next season. Celtics trade Bernard King to the Warriors for Kermit Washington and the Warriors 1982 1st round pick. Celtics are trading one of their best players for a solid player in Washington and a 1st round pick next season. The Celtics now have 2 1st round picks the next two seasons.</div></blockquote> Interesting, very interesting... <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

KingofOldSchool · August 10, 2013

End of 80-81 regular season:

Final standings

1980 NBA Standings

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ATLANTIC W L PCT HOME DIV CONF

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Bullets 50 32 .610 26-15 14-9 34-24

Knicks 50 32 .610 28-13 12-11 34-24

76ers 49 33 .598 30-11 15-7 34-24

Nets 36 46 .439 20-21 9-13 27-31

Celtics 22 60 .268 16-25 6-16 16-42

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CENTRAL W L PCT HOME DIV CONF

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Cavaliers 54 28 .659 30-11 17-11 38-20

Bulls 47 35 .573 26-15 14-14 32-26

Pistons 42 40 .512 19-22 15-13 30-28

Hawks 41 41 .500 22-19 14-14 28-30

Pacers 38 44 .463 23-18 14-15 26-32

Bucks 36 46 .439 20-21 11-18 20-38

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MIDWEST W L PCT HOME DIV CONF

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Nuggets 53 29 .646 30-11 20-10 38-22

Jazz 48 34 .585 25-16 20-10 38-22

Spurs 43 39 .524 28-13 14-16 34-26

Kings 36 46 .439 22-19 14-16 25-35

Mavericks 27 55 .329 18-23 10-20 20-40

Rockets 23 59 .280 13-28 12-18 18-42

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PACIFIC W L PCT HOME DIV CONF

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Warriors 54 28 .659 31-10 21-9 42-18

Trail Blazers 48 34 .585 26-15 15-15 35-25

Lakers 41 41 .500 21-20 17-13 31-29

Clippers 38 44 .463 16-25 16-14 29-31

SuperSonics 36 46 .439 19-22 11-19 25-35

Suns 31 51 .378 21-20 10-20 25-35

Ironically, just like in the Atlantic division that season, first place ended in a tie, but Washington won the tie breaker.

And unlike the Celtics in real life, here they were the worst among the worst and won the #1 pick in the upcoming draft.

KingofOldSchool · August 10, 2013

Now onto the awards:

NBA MVP:

Adrian Dantley (Nuggets) 3rd time

Rookie of the Year:

Kiki Vandeweghe (Kings)

Sixth Man

Toby Knight (Nuggets)

Most Improved Player:

Alvan Adams (Blazers)

Defensive Player of the Year:

Elmore Smith (Warriors) 7th time

All NBA First Team:

C Robert Parish Pacers

F Moses Malone 76ers

F Alvan Adams Trail Blazers

G Adrian Dantley Nuggets

G Magic Johnson Clippers

All-Rookie 1st Team:

C James Donaldson Pistons

F Kiki Vandeweghe Kings

F Kevin McHale Mavericks

G Johnny Moore Nuggets

G Kyle Macy Celtics

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Real life:

MVP:

Julius Erving

Rookie of the Year:

Darrell Griffith

All-NBA First Team:

Larry Bird, Boston Celtics

George Gervin, San Antonio Spurs

Julius Erving, Philadelphia 76ers

Dennis Johnson, Phoenix Suns

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Los Angeles Lakers

All-NBA Rookie Team:

Kelvin Ransey, Portland Trail Blazers

Darrell Griffith, Utah Jazz

Larry Smith, Golden State Warriors

Kevin McHale, Boston Celtics

Joe Barry Carroll, Golden State Warriors

KingofOldSchool · August 11, 2013

Here are the playoff brackets

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu307/KingofOldSchool/80-81playoffs_zps7cad35a6.png

KingofOldSchool · August 11, 2013

BREAKING NEWS FROM CLEVELAND:

All streaks must come to an end and today, the Cleveland Cavaliers found out the hard way as for the first time since the 1973-74 season, they will not be playing for the NBA Championship. After going up 3-0 in their second round match with the Philadelphia 76ers, the Cavs dropped the next 4 games in a shocking turn of events. However, many consider the turn of events is due to the Cavaliers superstar MVP, Julius Erving, suffering an injury late in game 3. He was ruled out for the rest of the series and the Cavaliers went on to lose the series as a result.

There will be no 4-Peat and new NBA Champs will be crowned. The Philadelphia 76ers will now go on to face the New York Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals while Golden State awaits the winner of tonight's game 7 between the Los Angeles Lakers and Denver Nuggets.

KingofOldSchool · August 11, 2013

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu307/KingofOldSchool/80-81playoffs_zps749131ca.png

The Philadelphia 76ers won their 3rd NBA title and their first since the 1964-65 season.

KingofOldSchool · August 12, 2013

14 year vet Elvin Hayes retires, is elected to the NBA Hall of Fame.

Selected 1st overall by the Sonics in 1968, Hayes was an 8 time NBA All Star, won 2 NBA Championships with the Sonics, 1 Playoff MVP award, and was selected to the All NBA First team 3 times.

KingofOldSchool · August 23, 2013

So anyone still interested in this? The whole forum's been kinda dead lately.

DanMTheMan · August 23, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KingofOldSchool" data-cite="KingofOldSchool" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36523" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So anyone still interested in this? The whole forum's been kinda dead lately.</div></blockquote> I'm still interested in this....I just have been too busy recently to get to work on my pair of dynasties here.

KingofOldSchool · August 25, 2013

1981 NBA Draft

With the first pick of the 1981 NBA Draft, the Boston Celtics select...

Alton Lister, center, Arizona State

A pretty big shocker for the way underachieving Celtics. Many draft pundits projected Rolando Blackman going #1, but Celtic brass felt a high rated Center would be a better selection as that was the only position in their starting lineup that had less than a green rated player. Lister has a green/blue rating.

the rest of the first 13 picks are as follows...

2. Houston - Rolando Blackman

3. Dallas - Mark Aguirre

4. Phoenix - Danny Ainge

5. New Jersey - Jeff Ruland

6. Milwaukee - Herb Williams

7. Kansas City - Eddie Johnson

8. Seattle - Buck Williams

9. San Diego - Larry Nance

10. Indiana - Tom Chambers

11. Atlanta - Danny Schayes

12. Boston.....

Boston has traded the 12th pick to the Detroit Pistons for the 36th pick and Detroit's 1st round pick in the 1982 NBA Draft.

With the 12th pick of the 1981 NBA Draft, the Detroit Pistons select...

Isiah Thomas, Point Guard, Indiana

Detroit was one of the few teams in the league that weren't stacked at PG. He might not start right away, but he will be sooner than later. Both the Knicks and Lakers were rumored to be interested in trading up to get Thomas.

13. Utah - Kelly Tripucka (from Milwaukee)

KingofOldSchool · August 28, 2013

1981 Season Preview:

Division Predictions:

Atlantic Division:

1. Washington Bullets

2. New Jersey Nets

3. Philadelphia 76ers

4. New York Knicks

5. Boston Celtics

Central Division:

1. Cleveland Cavaliers

2. Milwaukee Bucks

3. Chicago Bulls

4. Atlanta Hawks

5. Detroit Pistons

6. Indiana Pacers

Midwest Division:

1. Denver Nuggets

2. Kansas City Kings

3. Utah Jazz

4. San Antonio Spurs

5. Houston Rockets

6. Dallas Mavericks

Pacific Division:

1. Portland Trail Blazers

2. San Diego Clippers

3. Golden State Warriors

4. Los Angeles Lakers

5. Phoenix Suns

6. Seattle SuperSonics

All League Team:

C- Elmore Smith (Warriors)

PF- Alvan Adams (Trail Blazers)

SF- Larry Bird (Bullets)

SG- Julius Erving (Cavaliers)

PG- Magic Johnson (Clippers)

All-Rookie Team:

C- Alton Lister (Celtics)

PF- Jeff Ruland (Nets)

SF- Buck Williams (SuperSonics)

SG- Rolando Blackman (Rockets)

PG- Rich Rinaldi (FA) Note: WTF? Yeah forget Isiah Thomas who actually has a team and is starting.

KingofOldSchool · August 28, 2013

All Star Game:

Western Conference Starting Lineup:

C- Elmore Smith (Warriors) 5th selection

PF- Bob McAdoo (Suns) 7th selection

SF- Alex English (Jazz) 1st selection

SG- Calvin Natt (Kings) 2nd selection

PG- Adrian Dantley (Nuggets) 6th selection + Western conference leading vote getter

Bench:

C- Swen Nater (Trail Blazers) 4th selection

C- Bob Lanier (Clippers) 11th selection

PF- Toby Knight (Nuggets) 1st selection

SF- Bernard King (Mavericks) 1st selection

SG- Rolando Blackman (Rockets) 1st selection

PG- Brad Davis (Trail Blazers) 1st selection

PG- David Thompson (SuperSonics) 6th selection

(The only players who made in that year IRL were Dantley, King, English, and Lanier. Lanier was on the Eastern squad, though.)

Eastern Conference Starting Lineup:

C- Robert Parish (Pacers) 4th selection + Eastern conference leading vote getter

PF- Moses Malone (76ers) 4th selection

SF- Dan Roundfield (Hawks) 6th selection

SG- George Gervin (Knicks) 8th selection

PG- Phil Smith (Bucks) 2nd selection

Bench:

C- James Edwards (Bullets) 2nd selection

PF- Mickey Johnson (Pistons) 7th selection

SF- Larry Bird (Bullets) 2nd selection

SG- Julius Erving (Cavaliers) 8th selection

SG- Billy Knight (Celtics) 6th selection

PG- Reggie Theus (Bullets) 2nd selection

PG- Phil Ford (Bulls) 1st selection

(Gervin, Malone, Bird, Parish, and Roundfield all made it that year IRL although Roundfield didn't play due to injury.)

Unlike IRL, the West won this game and Bob Lanier took home MVP honors for the second time in his career.

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