Penalty AI and Suggestion

[srudoff]

Had 2nd and 10 in my territory. Play was a handoff for 6 yards with an offsides on the Defense called. My team declined the penalty to give them 3rd and 4 instead of 2nd and 5. I think I've seen this a few other times as well. Can this be tweaked a little? Also, is it at all possible Arlie to allow us to accept or decline penalties when we don't call our own plays?????? Thanks

[Tim Plum]

not sure how Arlie could set it up so people that don't call plays could take control of penalties. Penalties are constantly tweaked. Personally I'd decline the penalty to make it 3rd and 4 and take the down away from you.

[srudoff]

i worded it incorrectly - I had the ball and the penalty was on the defense. I don't call my plays and the AI declined the penalty which would have given me 2nd and 5 instead of 3rd and 4.

[flanman]

Ive also seen the penalty where the defense is called for a 5 yard face mask. The offense accepts this penalty but they do not get the down over. Is this how it works in a real game. I always thought if the penalty is accepted than the down is replayed. (if im wrong than please let me know) This happens a lot.........

[Old Boiler]

Face mask penalties, i believe, are normally assessed at the end of the play, so the play counts and there's no option for the other team to decline.

[flanman]

kk thx very much for the answer

[MizzouRah]

[QUOTE=srudoff]i worded it incorrectly - I had the ball and the penalty was on the defense. I don't call my plays and the AI declined the penalty which would have given me 2nd and 5 instead of 3rd and 4.[/QUOTE] I see this all of the time and I agree, it needs fixed. I would take 2nd and 5 everytime over 3rd and 4.

[dacman]

In general, the offense should take penalties that lower the yards left/downs left number and the defense should do the opposite. Downs left would not include 4th down except maybe in late game/overtime where the O is likely to go for it on 4th down. 2nd and 5 -- 5/2 = 2.5 OR 3rd and 4 -- 4/1 = 4 So the O would take the 2nd and 5 and a D faced with the same choice would take the 3rd and 4. However, it is problematic when 1st or 4th down choices are involved or some late game situations involving time remaining (down might become more important) or field goal considerations (yardage might become more important).