setzergambbini Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I wanted to try my hand at an all female promotion. Queens of American Wrestling caught my eye and I decided to give it a try. I have very basic knowledge of the game. I seem to be slowly learning more and having greater success with shows. The problem I run into is the cost for each show is growing rapidly. I need to start at least breaking even if I want to stay open much longer. It seems that pay per appearance literally means per appearance. I assumed it meant for the entire night. The more I think about this, the more it seems like each individual angle and match costs whatever the PPA rate is. I have tried using my highest paid workers in just the last two matches and reducing the length of the one show (per week) to one hour. any more suggestions? is it worth trying to negotiate a lower PPA rate with each worker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartman Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 <p>Okay, a person on a PPA deal gets paid once per show that you use them on so that's not your problem. The bigger your roster, the more Upper Midcarders and Main Eventers you will have, and they are the ones that tend to kick up a fuss if you don't use them every show. So, a large roster is going to cost you a lot more than you'd think if you're running a weekly show. Cutting the length of the show won't help much if you're struggling to get that group on it. Now, it will help a little because you won't be using the Midcard and lower as much.</p><p> </p><p> Honestly, you shouldn't run a weekly non-TV or PPV show until you hit Regional or maybe high Small (attendance around 1,500+) as your main income is going to come from sponsorship, not the gate from the shows. That will blow your money quickly. That's one of the keys to the game. You get paid (well as long as you don't agree to a 100% TV/PPV deal) each time you run them, but otherwise, you're going to be out a ton of money running weekly. You can try running just 2 shows a month at Small as normally a Women's fed is going to have cheap enough workers to be under what your sponsorship is.</p><p> </p><p> As for your shows, they're set as an Equal fed (so popularity and performance of the people in angles and matches are each 50% of their contribution to them). That means workers with good top row skills will do well in matches as will workers with high pop. Just glancing at your starting roster (I don't play the CV), you've got pretty decent wrestlers for that level. Remember, you only have to do 10+ points better on your show rating than your pop to grow so a 30 isn't horrible (unless you're in regional battles then you'll get creamed). One clear "shortcut" in the game is to use women with high sex appeal in angles that are rated that way. Yeah, if that's 50% or more of what the angle is rated on (a 2-person angle with one rated on Entertainment and the other as SA is 50% but if you do 2 on Entertainment and one on SA, the cap goes away though the 2 better be talkers), you're capped at the high 60's. Again, you're at Small so that's an amazing rating.</p><p> </p><p> Also, the basic stuff like always script matches between 2 or more wrestlers with less than 66 psychology. Oh, and your most expensive workers should be your Announcer, Color, Ref, and Road Agent. Try to find good deals on those but 60 should be your goal. If you happen to find a wrestler on your roster with a 66+ psych and 20+ respect, you can plug them in as your road agent though it is best to make sure you have two as someone is needed when they wrestle. That will save you a ton of money.</p><p> </p><p> I'm running an all-women's fed with a RW mod, and I'd kill for some of those top row stats.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoobzUnite Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="setzergambbini" data-cite="setzergambbini" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="39695" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wanted to try my hand at an all female promotion. Queens of American Wrestling caught my eye and I decided to give it a try. I have very basic knowledge of the game. I seem to be slowly learning more and having greater success with shows. The problem I run into is the cost for each show is growing rapidly. I need to start at least breaking even if I want to stay open much longer. <p> </p><p> It seems that pay per appearance literally means per appearance. I assumed it meant for the entire night. The more I think about this, the more it seems like each individual angle and match costs whatever the PPA rate is.</p><p> </p><p> I have tried using my highest paid workers in just the last two matches and reducing the length of the one show (per week) to one hour. any more suggestions? is it worth trying to negotiate a lower PPA rate with each worker?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well the first issue is running weekly shows. Running weekly shows as a small fed will kill your bank so its best ti have a monthly set up show and then the big event. Also it is for the entire night but again the weekly shows is the true culprit. Also if you went on a hiring spree then that can also increase your month to month costs. You'd just have to tweak things here and there but decreasing shows a month should save you a lot of money.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappyboy Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="NoobzUnite" data-cite="NoobzUnite" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="39695" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well the first issue is running weekly shows. Running weekly shows as a small fed will kill your bank so its best ti have a monthly set up show and then the big event. Also it is for the entire night but again the weekly shows is the true culprit. Also if you went on a hiring spree then that can also increase your month to month costs. You'd just have to tweak things here and there but decreasing shows a month should save you a lot of money.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Definitely agree with the weekly show thing. If you're going to be running weekly, you ideally should be doing one of two things. Either running L-Ring or one of my training feds. In those two cases, you have a sizable enough bank roll that you can afford going weekly. I can't speak for L-Ring because I've never played them. But in my training fed games, it typically takes me a year and half to two years to stave off the financial strain of my weekly shows and turn even a miniscule profit. Heck at the beginning of new training fed games, I'll lose more than I've seen some small feds have as a starting bankroll. Especially if they are starting in backstory trouble. If you're playing finances straight, you don't want to run too many shows too soon. That'll kill you graveyard dead in pretty short order.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartman Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 <p>One last thing that I forgot to mention as I was in a rush. PPA contracts have what are called Downsides, which should be the same amount as their PPA. This means that if you don't use them the entire month, you still have to pay them that downside amount. That's important once you drop the weekly shows. Just make sure to use everyone.</p><p> </p><p> Another thought I had mainly for my game is that you can run 2 shows a month if you do a brand split. Though it is VERY important to know that you will have to sign around 6-8 more wrestlers than your min. roster total (so around 22-24 at Small). That means you are using everyone each month while only doubling your show cost (not much) and your staff costs (announcer, color, ref, and possibly road agent) while getting 2 shows boosting your pop instead of 1. That's also helpful if you know you're losing the regional battle as you should gain more pop from the 2 shows than you lose in the battle.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setzergambbini Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 <p>Thanks for the help</p><p> </p><p> I guess it never crossed my mind that I could have just one or two shows a month. This is really helpful.</p><p> </p><p> Also I had a feeling the default workers in this promotion were better than average. I'm super excited to see where this goes</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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