shipshirt Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="willr0ck" data-cite="willr0ck" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I did this Amazing Fire Fly a few months back:<p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="Rs5IE0v.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/Rs5IE0v.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I love this! I never saw this one before.</p><p> </p><p> Here's LondOn's version:</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="wDHXSEH.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/wDHXSEH.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippantFox Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="willr0ck" data-cite="willr0ck" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yes, the first renders I ever did was pretty much the entire BCG roster. Here is my Razan:<p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="HCljHsq.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/HCljHsq.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thank you very much!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willr0ck Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shipshirt" data-cite="shipshirt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I love this! I never saw this one before.<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks, London's version is great as well. I hadn't seen that one until now. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FlippantFox" data-cite="FlippantFox" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thank you very much!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No problem</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack ryder Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 <p>Can any body render Okada in Cverse style?</p><p> </p><p> Some more of King Bisons work, he did on my request I would like to showcase.</p><p> <a href="https://postimg.org/image/dj2d81ktv/" rel="external nofollow">https://postimg.org/image/dj2d81ktv/</a></p><p> <a href="https://postimg.org/image/vadzmi08j/" rel="external nofollow">https://postimg.org/image/vadzmi08j/</a></p><p> <a href="https://postimg.org/image/dlm8uvohf/" rel="external nofollow">https://postimg.org/image/dlm8uvohf/</a></p><p> <a href="https://postimg.org/image/kbkt4pz1v/" rel="external nofollow">https://postimg.org/image/kbkt4pz1v/</a></p><p> <a href="http://imgur.com/fFK1uFg" rel="external nofollow">http://imgur.com/fFK1uFg</a></p><p> <a href="https://postimg.org/image/8tv9ls4ab/" rel="external nofollow">https://postimg.org/image/8tv9ls4ab/</a></p><p> <a href="https://postimg.org/image/i3219n2k3/" rel="external nofollow">https://postimg.org/image/i3219n2k3/</a></p><p> <a href="https://postimg.org/image/6rzdl9voz/" rel="external nofollow">https://postimg.org/image/6rzdl9voz/</a></p><p> </p><p> for some reasons the images are not showing hence posting the links.</p><p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="<fileStore.core_Attachment>/monthly_2017_09/Chris_Beniot.jpg.162756fc23f25db81e79151bda6cb378.jpg" data-fileid="3352" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="3352" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="Chris_Beniot.jpg.162756fc23f25db81e79151bda6cb378.jpg" data-src="<fileStore.core_Attachment>/monthly_2017_09/Chris_Beniot.jpg.162756fc23f25db81e79151bda6cb378.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyWillyWilly Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 <p>I need a break from my mod, so I tried to render cverse characters.</p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Angry Gilmore</strong></p><p> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Angry_Gilmore.jpg" data-src="https://s26.postimg.org/yj69hurx5/Angry_Gilmore.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p></div><p></p><p></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NarrZiss Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jack ryder" data-cite="jack ryder" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can any body render Okada in Cverse style?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There is a really nice render for Kozue Kawashima, which reminds me of Okada. You should find it with google. Just type in "Kozue Kawashima".</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyWillyWilly Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 <p></p><div style="text-align:center;"><p> more Cverse rerenders</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Long Beach Crew</strong></p><p><strong> Aces High - Cali Slick</strong></p><p> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Aces_High.jpg" data-src="https://s26.postimg.org/llapx9hi1/Aces_High.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a><a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Cali_Slick.jpg" data-src="https://s26.postimg.org/jjetwr8wp/Cali_Slick.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Masafumi Torii</strong></p><p> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Masafumi_Torii.jpg" data-src="https://s26.postimg.org/4byuceh21/Masafumi_Torii.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Amane Shunsen</strong></p><p> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Amane_Shunsen.jpg" data-src="https://s26.postimg.org/spx4k1e55/Amane_Shunsen.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p></div><p></p><p></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceisle Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 <p>^ Nice work, and thanks for Masafumi Torii. That re-render was desperately needed.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jack ryder" data-cite="jack ryder" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can any body render Okada in Cverse style?</div></blockquote><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="NarrZiss" data-cite="NarrZiss" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There is a really nice render for Kozue Kawashima, which reminds me of Okada. You should find it with google. Just type in "Kozue Kawashima".</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If it helps, <a href="http://i.imgur.com/2LI91zg.jpg" rel="external nofollow">here's an edit of Bull's Kozue render</a> that was requested in the alt thread at some point.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herrbear Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Great renders. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatIsraeliGuy Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I know it was done a couple of times, but I would love a nice Eddie Peak render. He's just not menacing enough for me. P.S. A hoodie would be great too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brat99 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 <p>Took a good bit longer than I expected, but with this post comes the completion of my project to do a re-render for all of the refs in the North American C-Verse......</p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Erin Lawrence (QAW), Wilson Carlisle (RIPW), Baby Jamie & Robbie Sanchez (USPW)</strong></p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Erin_Lawrence_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/7voulp0xt/Erin_Lawrence_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Wilson_Carlisle_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/c2eaerpxd/Wilson_Carlisle_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Baby_Jamie_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/tfjzfvvup/Baby_Jamie_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Robbie_Sanchez_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/mmjmjm51d/Robbie_Sanchez_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Royce Greig (ACPW), Andy Gordy (4C), Francis Long & Jonathan Taylor (CGC)</strong></p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Royce_Greig_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/e5k48p0ch/Royce_Greig_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Andy_Gordy_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/i717ecsn5/Andy_Gordy_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Francis_Long_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/91sukhp8h/Francis_Long_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Jonathan_Taylor_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/6lr16n75t/Jonathan_Taylor_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Alan Gray & Eugene Williams (NOTBPW)</strong></p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Alan_Gray_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/yw2na9p8h/Alan_Gray_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Alan_Gray_3.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/y2q1hnj7l/Alan_Gray_3.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Eugene_Williams_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/p2lfxgn41/Eugene_Williams_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> I am also including a convenient zip file of all of my ref renders. Now time to decide if I want to tackle refs from other game areas or pick another project (feedback welcome).</p><p><a href="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=3353" data-fileid="3353" data-fileext="zip" rel="">REFS.zip</a></p>REFS.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brat99" data-cite="brat99" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> I am also including a convenient zip file of all of my ref renders. Now time to decide if I want to tackle refs from other game areas or pick another project (feedback welcome).</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> All the game areas would be fantastic!!!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Trask Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Give the man his hats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Any chance someone's done Nathan McKenzie and Reggie Tate? Picked them up in my TCW game and they had great chemistry, but their renders make it hard to push them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jack ryder" data-cite="jack ryder" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can any body render Okada in Cverse style?<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You could use the Kozue Kawashima alt</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="-jgooFaPXZgiziqblTMSfJ1i-CFY1TZP0uGMphA2Uz4?size=2048x1536&size_mode=3" data-src="https://photos-1.dropbox.com/t/2/AADsFWV74Zgmuoz_-XcH1QAfUQ80wmS3HQ5SGgukj5KpVw/12/244639107/jpeg/32x32/1/_/1/2/Kozue%20Kawashima_alt1.jpg/EI-R4tsBGJXeCSACKAI/-jgooFaPXZgiziqblTMSfJ1i-CFY1TZP0uGMphA2Uz4?size=2048x1536&size_mode=3" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brat99 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Any chance someone's done Nathan McKenzie and Reggie Tate?<p> </p><p> Picked them up in my TCW game and they had great chemistry, but their renders make it hard to push them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm about to go to bed (working 3rd shift these days), but I'll give them a go in the morning when I get home from work. If there is any special requests for their gimmicks, just shoot me a pm.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bison Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DatIsraeliGuy" data-cite="DatIsraeliGuy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know it was done a couple of times, but I would love a nice Eddie Peak render.<p> He's just not menacing enough for me.</p><p> </p><p> P.S. A hoodie would be great too</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The Peaks are just challenging to render. I've made a few attempts but nothing that I liked enough to keep or post.</p><p> I always picture Eddie as being this big monster heel that just exudes evil, almost to the point of demonic but not quite touching that an actual occult gimmick as that would look out of place in modern TCW. He can't look like just another big man but he still has to look human. I love rendering the monsters of the CVerse but Peak and Dread are just two guys I can never seem to bring to life much to my chagrin.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipshirt Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Any chance someone's done Nathan McKenzie and Reggie Tate?<p> </p><p> Picked them up in my TCW game and they had great chemistry, but their renders make it hard to push them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There was a really good McKenzie that, I think, Jtlant did a while back. I'll take a look at them as I was jonesing to render something.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="King Bison" data-cite="King Bison" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The Peaks are just challenging to render. I've made a few attempts but nothing that I liked enough to keep or post.<p> I always picture Eddie as being this big monster heel that just exudes evil, almost to the point of demonic but not quite touching that an actual occult gimmick as that would look out of place in modern TCW. He can't look like just another big man but he still has to look human. I love rendering the monsters of the CVerse but Peak and Dread are just two guys I can never seem to bring to life much to my chagrin.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I did this one a little while back, if that works for you. I tend to use Eddie like a Bruiser Brody character:</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="8w7xkIw.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/8w7xkIw.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarK_RaideR Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brat99" data-cite="brat99" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am also including a convenient zip file of all of my ref renders. Now time to decide if I want to tackle refs from other game areas or pick another project (feedback welcome).</div></blockquote><p> Yes please. Our favorite zebras deserve some more re-renderin' love</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2117 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shipshirt" data-cite="shipshirt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I did this one a little while back, if that works for you. I tend to use Eddie like a Bruiser Brody character:<p> </p><p> <img alt="8w7xkIw.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/8w7xkIw.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He has a nice Sabretooth out of X-Men vibe.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esteel20 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 <p><span>http://i.imgur.com/64lWjOr.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p> Re-rendered my Acid II render to test out how my mask fit in Genesis 8.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipshirt Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Any chance someone's done Nathan McKenzie and Reggie Tate?<p> </p><p> Picked them up in my TCW game and they had great chemistry, but their renders make it hard to push them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Nathan McKenzie</strong></p><p> <img alt="VMReJa8.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/VMReJa8.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Reggie Tate</strong></p><p> <img alt="hQXnRZb.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/hQXnRZb.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div><p></p><p></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brat99 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Any chance someone's done Nathan McKenzie and Reggie Tate?<p> </p><p> Picked them up in my TCW game and they had great chemistry, but their renders make it hard to push them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Face and Heel versions for......</p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Nathan McKenzie</strong></p><p> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Nathan_Mc_Kenzie_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/yfzt6sv0h/Nathan_Mc_Kenzie_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Nathan_Mc_Kenzie_3.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/owq4dc7i9/Nathan_Mc_Kenzie_3.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Reggie Tate</strong></p><p> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Reggie_Tate_3.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/q1k6iptz5/Reggie_Tate_3.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a> <a href="https://postimages.org/" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="Reggie_Tate_2.jpg" data-src="https://s6.postimg.org/o8h9ue8sh/Reggie_Tate_2.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p></div><p></p><p></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esteel20 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 The Gladiator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2117 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 The last three posts are fascinating to me. shipshirt has gone for a big bruiser look for the two ozzie guys which makes sense since they are both like 6'5 - 6'6 tall. They just look right. bratt99 has made them leaner - I really like his Reggie. Nathan looks like he has islander in him which ironically makes more sense as Australia should really have more pacific islanders than black workers. Nathan now looks like a big mean Tongan to me and that's good. esteel meanwhile has given us a really great "The Gladiator", I think of you as a mask guy but that shows you are anything but a one trick pony. They all have really nice interesting personal flavours. That's the beauty of the people rendering in this forum. People use similar settings so the general look is consistent but the personal styles are all personal to the people doing the render. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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