Managers, Valets.. why do or dont you use them?

[TC Dale]

Sometimes you find that a manager is a bit more over than your wrestler(s), and even though the non-wrestlers maybe could use some managerial help, I find that I really want to use valets and let the guys go on their own even if the valet is not good on the mic.

 

Has anyone ever gotten valet types to be able to get overness up on them?

 

I just think that sometimes you need a valet that talks rarely, but can do her distraction and interference to help their wrestler(s)... so what "valets" if any, are a good hire, or do you just go with managers instead?

[Remianen]

<p>I don't believe in valets.</p><p> </p><p>

Everyone I sign is intended to be a manager, so that's what they do. Even if their client has better entertainment skills (heck, ESPECIALLY if their client has better entertainment skills). But then, I'm all about developing talent and I believe it takes far more talent to work the stick than to stand at ringside and slap the mat. Getting them over is about as easy as it is for any other worker except for the fact that they can't do matches.</p><p> </p><p>

My list of managers on my main roster:</p><p> </p><p>

<span>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/Kension/QAWMGR.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p>

And I have about 20 more in development.</p>

[iruleall15]

I don't do Valets. Managers I do but they need to carry segments. My managers always work with guys who are not good on the mic. No point to use them on someone who can talk

[moafnsteel]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Remianen" data-cite="Remianen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41664" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't believe in valets.<p> </p><p> Everyone I sign is intended to be a manager, so that's what they do. Even if their client has better entertainment skills (heck, ESPECIALLY if their client has better entertainment skills). But then, I'm all about developing talent and I believe it takes far more talent to work the stick than to stand at ringside and slap the mat. Getting them over is about as easy as it is for any other worker except for the fact that they can't do matches.</p><p> </p><p> My list of managers on my main roster:</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/Kension/QAWMGR.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p> And I have about 20 more in development.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You know I have never thought about using a manager this way to help them become a better manager, lol. I have always only used managers that could help with entertainment/mic skills. This is a good idea to help develop more managers, as they can be very fun to use.</p>

[Remianen]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moafnsteel" data-cite="moafnsteel" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41664" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You know I have never thought about using a manager this way to help them become a better manager, lol. I have always only used managers that could help with entertainment/mic skills. This is a good idea to help develop more managers, as they can be very fun to use.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, I found that I needed to do that because there aren't a ton of managers in the C-Verse who can talk. But most of the better women's wrestlers can. But the great thing about it is, they can gain so much skill in a short time that it doesn't take long for them to become really useful. And occasionally, you'll have someone turn out like Sweet Tabitha in my game.</p><p> </p><p> She was my authority figure for the first five months and so she appeared in 3-5 angles per show (sometimes more, when I could be bothered to run post-show angles). All of her interactions were with people better than her, entertainment wise. Then I got Emma Chase and the two of them feuded over control of the company, which Emma finally won. Also, my user character is great in entertainment so Tabitha was learning from all directions. So with my schedule (weekly show + monthly PPV), that's 15-25+ opportunities for improvement every month. She hasn't had that kind of run of late but since she's the primary mouthpiece for the top stable in the company, she still gets 1-2 segments per show.</p><p> </p><p> But this is by no means typical. Most managers seem to cap out in the 70s (with maybe charisma getting into the 81-83 range). But that's still crazy good, in my view.</p>

[moafnsteel]

Do you usually rate the "manager" or in your game Tabitha, on entertainment or another skill or do you leave it unrated so not to tank the angle?

[Gungner]

I use valets, only to avoid the "Sausage fest" penalty <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[Historian]

I use a mixture of 'valets' and 'managers' depending on the role needed. I tend to stick towards managers than people there just for eye candy, but sometimes the gimmick, in my eyes, leans towards having someone who is there for sex appeal.

 

Almost all of my heel workers have managers -- not all of them, but most of them.

[Remianen]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moafnsteel" data-cite="moafnsteel" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41664" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do you usually rate the "manager" or in your game Tabitha, on entertainment or another skill or do you leave it unrated so not to tank the angle?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I rate the manager (entertainment mostly). I can typically fill my show with enough highly rated angles (only 3 are factored into the show rating) so adding angles that don't rate highly doesn't matter as far as the show's rating is concerned.</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: I do have an angle where all but one person is unrated. Used to simulate the WWE (JBL especially) way of hyperbolically hyping people in between actual segments. "The League of Nations is the second coming of the Four Horsemen" and crap like that.</p>

[Dr. Hook]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Remianen" data-cite="Remianen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41664" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> . . . because there aren't a ton of managers in the C-Verse who can talk. But most of the better women's wrestlers can. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This! While I hire some non-wrestlers (currently Mya Catalan and Haley Buck) I tend to hire women wrestlers for the role when I can. Right now I have Alexis Lee Littlefeather (doubling as a road agent- what the hell we are a small company) and Electric Dreamer, both of whom are decent. I will be hiring Talia Quinzel and Charity Sweet just as soon as I get a cash flow bump.</p>

[lghikas]

Love using them usually manager types but whatever I'm feeling creatively at that moment...most recent games I usually sign Haley Buck and Dharma Gregg and a few others and in 16 with SWF I got Emma Chase out from behind that Table ASAP.

[Tussinewa]

I'll typically use managers on big guys who can't talk, or people who I'm pushing that can't talk. Only reason to use valets as someone else said is just to avoid the "no hot women on your show" penalty.

[DK1105]

I almost never use managers but I do set tag team partners to double as managers. I use them more as a ringside second more than anything. Almost every game I run I play more sport like companies so managers and most angles feel out of place but supportive partners or close friends at ringside works.

[AfRoMaN36]

<p>I use managers, not valets. I mean, I did rehire Torrie Wilson, but I quickly found her to be a waste of space on my roster that really offers nothing.She has tons of friends though so my hands are quite tied.</p><p> </p><p>

My managers are either </p><p> </p><p>

1) Talkers. People that can make jobbers look like stars and stars look like mega stars. I put Paul Heyman on my womens brand in a heel faction with Beth, Nattie, Kharma and Portia Perez. Not only does he give an instant boost to all of their personal talking segments, but when he is an active participant in an angle it is almost a guaranteed A/A*. He is the MVP of that brand.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

2) Girlfriends/Demanding Divas/Bodyguards. Mostly extra girls I hired that either can talk but can't work, or that I just don't have a spot for. I have Maxine as the angry Latina advocate for Hunico and Camacho and Lacey as the ice queen girlfriend for Chuck Taylor for example. They give me an easy storyline ideas for guys that are stuck in creative limbo.</p>

[Alan James]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gungner" data-cite="Gungner" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41664" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I use valets, only to avoid the "Sausage fest" penalty <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This.</p>

[crackerjack]

<p>I don't really go out of my way to hire managers. But, when I do, it's mostly due to chemistry, even if it takes some time to establish chemistry/find the right partner. </p><p> </p><p>

Anything to help the grade, really.</p>

[mrwhippy]

I have no valets and very few managers generally. Everyone that appears on TV for me is involved in some sort of storyline; I never have someone appear just for the sake of it, that's what house shows and pre-shows are for. And I usually find it hard to write anything meaningful for a manager. Those that do appear are just mouthpieces for your Brock Lesnar types who you want well away from a microphone.

[Blackman]

How do they grow actually? In previous games they never grew during in-ring segments with the exception of promo's. Just by standing there they never gained anything, at least that was my perception.

[redwalrus]

All my mangers have to provide something. If there isn't entertainment skills than I'm not interested. I also look for sex appeal so I can at least use the shoots tshirts angle. That can help in regional promotions. I do like mangers for the manger interference tag note. The bottom line is no mic skills not interested.