TheWho87 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 http://i.imgur.com/4uxCW2d.jpg Now on Discord Frequently Asked Questions Why is [Promotion] closed when they are active? Due to how slow the game runs with more promotions active, I have included active promotions but have them closed, to identify these they have their opening date and closed date the same. To activate the promotion simply remove the closed date. They may also have their titles histories included, if they do you need to go into "Title Lineages" and remove their most recent record (identified with a "= -" or "= - #" before their record name). You can then activate the title (all closed promotions titles are retired) and then set the champion if they are under contract. Database: April 2020 Graphics: April 2020 Workers: January 2020 Old Workers: August 2018 - Compatable with all databases prior to 2019. Graphics DLC: DLC 1 (October 2017) - Graphics DLC contains loading screens and pictures of non wrestlers cut on the same background used for workers. Previous Real World Updates 2016 - June 2016 - July 2016 - August 2016 - September 2016 - October 2016 - November 2016 - December 2016 2017 - January 2017 - February 2017 - March 2017 - April 2017 - May 2017 - June 2017 - July 2017 - August 2017 - September 2017 - October 2017 - November 2017 - December 2017 2018 - January 2018 - February 2018 - March 2018 - April 2018 - May 2018 - June 2018 - July 2018 - August 2018 - September 2018 - October 2018 - November 2018 - December 2018 2019 - January 2019 - February 2019 - March 2019 - April 2019 (Pre-Mania) - April 2019 (Post-Mania) - May 2019 - June 2019 - July 2019 - August 2019 - September 2019 - October 2019 - November 2019 - December 2019 2020 - January 2020 - February 2020 - March 2020 - April 2020 Fantasy Real World Database: Whoniverse (1) Women of Wrestling 2016 - Preview Beta (1.0) Fantasy Organic This is a game world that will organically generate as it progresses, it contained the minimum requirements to starting a save with the promotion and worker open to being customised if you want to. This uses my event, team, tour, TV and worker names as well as gimmicks from my real world database. Database: Organic Mod by TheWho87 (2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Thank you for sharing this one, I will give it a try over the next days <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 So glad to see you over here and upgraded. I know you said you weren't going to upgrade or didn't plan on it so I'm glad you did. Your mod is always my go to mod for current day real world stuff. Absolutely love your stuff and I love how inclusive you are to everybody's suggestions/ideas. Excited to play this and I'll be popping in over there to heap praise on you over there as well <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapmaer Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 i love the accuracy you go for with your mods but I find with such low in ring ratings i can not no matter what book a good show this is just my option but i have to say i respect the time you put in to your mods <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Welcome back Who, looking forward to trying it out <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomenalPat Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <p>Rep, Shmep!</p><p> </p><p> The more mods, the better. Options are always great. </p><p> </p><p> Thank you for sharing.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phreak Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <p>Very glad you made the jump to '16! IIRC it took you awhile to make the jump to '13. </p><p> </p><p> As for your mod and its detractors, I wouldn't worry about it. You've made great strides to improve your mod and get out of the EWR stating mind frame and it shows. Its not perfect (what mod is?) but its clear that you're dedicated to making it the best it can be, and for that I thank you. </p><p> </p><p> Also, I'm looking forward to your new picture pack. I know its been something of a labour, but I'm sure it's going to be great.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="chapmaer" data-cite="chapmaer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>i love the accuracy you go for with your mods but I find with such low in ring ratings i can not no matter what book a good show this is just my option but i have to say i respect the time you put in to your mods <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> Which company are you using? Do you have specific examples or do you feel it's a wider issue?</p><p> </p><p> The ratings for the bigger companies, as TheWho mentioned in the OP, are based on a collective effort. DerekB even helped, which was great for balancing purposes.</p><p> </p><p> This mod has a tonne of potential and could one day soon be the definitive current day mod. That's not to degrade the other great modders (Fleisch in particular) at all. But, TheWho's mod has an insane amount of depth to it.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapmaer Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 i use wwe and what i feel is with the low ratings it makes it feel unrealistic and that building people up feels so damn hard with how much most guys are but to be fair it is my personal preference is for high ratings so maybe im just wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YanNep Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Thanks! I will await your worker images and such! ;3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Oyaji" data-cite="Oyaji" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> This mod has a tonne of potential and could one day soon be the definitive current day mod. That's not to degrade the other great modders (Fleisch in particular) at all. But, TheWho's mod has an insane amount of depth to it.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I wish you guys all the luck and hope you stick with it. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Just some friendly advice from on modder to another.... Making predictions about how good your mod will be one day compared to Fleisch's then immediately after mentioning depth is not a good way to endear yourself to most GDS members. Fleisch has worked day and night longer then just about anyone here at GDS to provide people a game to play. If you have to follow a sentence with (not to degrade or anything) the post may be better left for a private conversation.</p><p> </p><p> Just my opinion something that will help you guys going forward.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wish you guys all the luck and hope you stick with it. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Just some friendly advice from on modder to another.... Making predictions about how good your mod will be one day compared to Fleisch's then immediately after mentioning depth is not a good way to endear yourself to most GDS members. Fleisch has worked day and night longer then just about anyone here at GDS to provide people a game to play. If you have to follow a sentence with (not to degrade or anything) the post may be better left for s private conversation.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This isn't my mod. I just help with the some of the ratings on a site and TheWho uses them. I was referring to TheWho's mod, not blowing smoke up my arse. His mod has a ridiculous amount of coverage in terms of independent promotions, it's remarkable.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Whether you are or aren't my point still stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <p>I really do hope you guys stay with it and keep updating for us all here <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> If you guys need any help with anything please let me or one of the ModSquad guys know!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="chapmaer" data-cite="chapmaer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>i use wwe and what i feel is with the low ratings it makes it feel unrealistic and that building people up feels so damn hard with how much most guys are but to be fair it is my personal preference is for high ratings so maybe im just wrong</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't think it's a matter of black/white, wrong/right. Is it the skills or popularity or both that is the big concern? </p><p> </p><p> WWE's in a precarious position not having many regular stars outside of Cena. They've tried to get Roman up to that level but the fans aren't accepting him, so if there's no Brock or Undertaker on the shows, you may get warnings that the company is lacking star power. I think this reflects reality, but that is just my opinion. So, if you're doing a save with WWE, it's going to be a bit of a struggle in the early days because of a lack of stars.</p><p> </p><p> However, there are a tonne of talented workers on the roster that have the tools to get to that B/B+ level of popularity. It's just a matter of the user choosing which few to really get behind and playing to their strengths. You could focus on Cesaro's in-ring ability or Bray's promos, for example.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolized Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wish you guys all the luck and hope you stick with it. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Just some friendly advice from on modder to another.... Making predictions about how good your mod will be one day compared to Fleisch's then immediately after mentioning depth is not a good way to endear yourself to most GDS members. Fleisch has worked day and night longer then just about anyone here at GDS to provide people a game to play. If you have to follow a sentence with (not to degrade or anything) the post may be better left for a private conversation.</p><p> </p><p> Just my opinion something that will help you guys going forward.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't think there's any hostility in the statement that you seem to think there is. Besides, Oyaji's been a great help and a valued community member for quite a while and his knowledge of Japan has helped a number of mods across the community including some of Matt Shannon's and my own 2004 mod.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <p>Think from one modder to another we know that there isn't any "hostility" in the statements, but we care how it might appear to other members to the community who are new, or not as involved. </p><p> </p><p> It comes across as though it's seen like some kind of competition, which it is not. We all want more options for users and that is a great thing. That doesn't mean comparisons need to be made about which is "definitive" or not.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Idolized" data-cite="Idolized" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't think there's any hostility in the statement that you seem to think there is. Besides, Oyaji's been a great help and a valued community member for quite a while and his knowledge of Japan has helped a number of mods across the community including some of Matt Shannon's and my own 2004 mod.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I didn't say there was any hostility. I gave advice I thought would help them, their mod and boards. </p><p> </p><p> If I thought Ouji was being a douche I wouldn't have offered advice, help and words of encouragement.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapmaer Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Oyaji" data-cite="Oyaji" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't think it's a matter of black/white, wrong/right. Is it the skills or popularity or both that is the big concern? <p> </p><p> WWE's in a precarious position not having many regular stars outside of Cena. They've tried to get Roman up to that level but the fans aren't accepting him, so if there's no Brock or Undertaker on the shows, you may get warnings that the company is lacking star power. I think this reflects reality, but that is just my opinion. So, if you're doing a save with WWE, it's going to be a bit of a struggle in the early days because of a lack of stars.</p><p> </p><p> However, there are a tonne of talented workers on the roster that have the tools to get to that B/B+ level of popularity. It's just a matter of the user choosing which few to really get behind and playing to their strengths. You could focus on Cesaro's in-ring ability or Bray's promos, for example.</p></div></blockquote><p> first of all thank you for being respectful of my opinion that means alot to me and second honestly you made some good points on when it came to ways to build your company around certain guys i would just say for example john cena to me is higher then a 85 pop in the us i find him around a 91-93 and i think in all honesty he is not acutally that bad when it comes to his in ring ability i think i saw that in his matches with owens last year and his us open challenge in general so i think in terms of his technical ability it could be higher, i know he is not like aj styles level but still he in my opinion is at least in the high 40's in term of his technical ability not mid or low 30's</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Oyaji" data-cite="Oyaji" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't think it's a matter of black/white, wrong/right. Is it the skills or popularity or both that is the big concern? <p> </p><p> WWE's in a precarious position not having many regular stars outside of Cena. They've tried to get Roman up to that level but the fans aren't accepting him, so if there's no Brock or Undertaker on the shows, you may get warnings that the company is lacking star power. I think this reflects reality, but that is just my opinion. So, if you're doing a save with WWE, it's going to be a bit of a struggle in the early days because of a lack of stars.</p><p> </p><p> However, there are a tonne of talented workers on the roster that have the tools to get to that B/B+ level of popularity. It's just a matter of the user choosing which few to really get behind and playing to their strengths. You could focus on Cesaro's in-ring ability or Bray's promos, for example.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> First thing I do with any mod is run a test sim. Only did a month. The AI wasn't doing fantastic with the WWE - the strongest show grade I saw was a B. Couple B- grades. Saw a C+ or two, but I think those were for the B show. To me, that's fairly realistic. And its also workable. </p><p> </p><p> I always expect that booking myself, I can do at least a grade better than the AI tends to - so long as I'm not just using the auto-booker. So getting B and B+ grades should be achievable, and once the popularity of the top guys goes up a bit, getting a B+ will be pretty easy, I expect. </p><p> </p><p> I like the popularity scaling on here. Quite a bit. I agree that no one on the WWE roster is the A popularity range. A* is guys like The Rock, Austin, and Hogan at their peak. A isn't that common IMO. Cena at his peak was probably there. But Cena isn't at his peak anymore.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWho87 Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Phreak" data-cite="Phreak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Very glad you made the jump to '16! IIRC it took you awhile to make the jump to '13. <p> </p><p> As for your mod and its detractors, I wouldn't worry about it. You've made great strides to improve your mod and get out of the EWR stating mind frame and it shows. Its not perfect (what mod is?) but its clear that you're dedicated to making it the best it can be, and for that I thank you. </p><p> </p><p> Also, I'm looking forward to your new picture pack. I know its been something of a labour, but I'm sure it's going to be great.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> One of my aims with my database is to get EWR players into TEW, thats why I have Idol's EWR iNSPIRED Angle Pack as a default.</p><p> </p><p> Also don't expect too much from the pic pack, its a typical KyKy pack based off the cuts I upload to my <a href="http://s376.photobucket.com/user/TheWho87TEWR/library/" rel="external nofollow">Photobucket</a>.</p><p> </p><p> In regard to the "comparison" with Fleisch, the only comparison we have is that we both do real world database, beyond that I think we appeal to different markets. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I'll be checking this mod out soon. If what I'm reading from BigPapa's test sims are any indication, I may have another current day mod to enjoy. I say why not play both? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I love Fleisch's mods because of the work he's put into it and that dope picture pack. And I have a feeling I'll like this mod, again because of the hard work. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracyBrooksFan Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First thing I do with any mod is run a test sim. Only did a month. The AI wasn't doing fantastic with the WWE - the strongest show grade I saw was a B. Couple B- grades. Saw a C+ or two, but I think those were for the B show. To me, that's fairly realistic. And its also workable. <p> </p><p> I always expect that booking myself, I can do at least a grade better than the AI tends to - so long as I'm not just using the auto-booker. So getting B and B+ grades should be achievable, and once the popularity of the top guys goes up a bit, getting a B+ will be pretty easy, I expect. </p><p> </p><p> I like the popularity scaling on here. Quite a bit. I agree that no one on the WWE roster is the A popularity range. A* is guys like The Rock, Austin, and Hogan at their peak. A isn't that common IMO. Cena at his peak was probably there. But Cena isn't at his peak anymore.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Which is very true right now WWE putting on maybe B or B- shows if that.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWho87 Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 <p>WWE putting on shows in the B range has been pretty consistant with my updates for the past few months, their B shows tend to be in the mid to low C range and NXT being in the mid to high D range.</p><p> </p><p> So far the database has updated workers for WWE, TNA, NJPW, ROH and NXT's TV roster, that was the last big goal before upgrading, right now I am checking/updating staff for those promotions so for July they should be sorted to run well.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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