D-Rock316 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 So, I have had horrible luck with having matches that are based on Story Telling. I am using the Wrestling Premier League, and I have switched the women's division to integrated...my question is, who are some good examples of wrestlers who can give some good storytelling matches that aren't on a written contract to another company? As my fed is integrated, male and female examples are both welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter.1986 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="D-Rock316" data-cite="D-Rock316" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41936" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So, I have had horrible luck with having matches that are based on Story Telling. I am using the Wrestling Premier League, and I have switched the women's division to integrated...my question is, who are some good examples of wrestlers who can give some good storytelling matches that aren't on a written contract to another company? As my fed is integrated, male and female examples are both welcome.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Story telling matches Sen to always have a penalty. So don't use them if your wanting the best match possible. Same as technical masterclass etc</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Rock316 Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 I kind of have to with my fed. It requires one match per show. I'm just looking for about 4 wrestlers who can get a good rating from them without them being written to another company. I've tried guys with relatively high psychology and lowish top row like Rajah, Sky King, Raquel Alvarado, and Bobby Thomas, but their match ratings have all been in the 30-40 range, where the rest of my card is in the 60-70 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter.1986 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="D-Rock316" data-cite="D-Rock316" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41936" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I kind of have to with my fed. It requires one match per show. I'm just looking for about 4 wrestlers who can get a good rating from them without them being written to another company. I've tried guys with relatively high psychology and lowish top row like Rajah, Sky King, Raquel Alvarado, and Bobby Thomas, but their match ratings have all been in the 30-40 range, where the rest of my card is in the 60-70 range.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just don't use it as your main event and it doesn't matter too much I've found. Use it for matches between people who are learning rather than people who you are trying to get over</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvargus Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Peter.1986" data-cite="Peter.1986" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41936" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just don't use it as your main event and it doesn't matter too much I've found. Use it for matches between people who are learning rather than people who you are trying to get over</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> +1</p><p> </p><p> Your storytelling matches should be for the midcard rather than the main event. For your main event you have feuds/storylines that are going to drive momentum and interest. A storytelling match is more about engaging the fans rather than giving them the big final lift before the end of the show.</p><p> </p><p> I usually put my storytelling first or second in the show and rarely notice any kind of downgrade in the score.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 A storytelling match is going to bring the crowd down, for the most part. It can be kind of confusing, because we think of storytelling within the match, which the Psychology. This is more the match itself being Storytelling. Think of matches that are really more of extended angles than actual competitive matches. One wrestlers comes in injured so its a one-sided beatdown, the heel being a total bully, toying with the injured face, who scores a fluke win. Or the attractive valet/manager proves a significant distraction and allows for an easy win. Those matches usually aren't compelling affairs based on the action, but about the match itself telling a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 <p>I am baffled by this, I have just ran summerlam, and use story telling matches as feud end matches, and I have just ram at least 5 story telling matches, and it was easily my best show..</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://imgur.com/8kBc4NS" rel="external nofollow">http://imgur.com/8kBc4NS</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RingRider Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 All this chatter of Storytelling matches being penalized is surprising to me because I often use the Storytelling Aim in my main event with good results. I usually book a match around 20ish min, with a Storytelling aim, Open and Slow Build and score very well more often than not. What other notes are you using in conjunction with the Storytelling Aim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilofNG Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Pretty much all of my matches get the storytelling note and my ratings are excellent. I don't have much success with any of the other notes so I rarely use them. Are the matches you're having that are getting bad ratings your main events? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Rock316 Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 I use Call in Ring (as long as they have at least 62 psych), and i've tried slow build on a 20 min+ match. I've tried them as my opener, main event and in the middle of the show and it doesn't seem to matter, it's usually my worst or 2nd worst match on the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d12345 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 <p>Some of you are incorrect about the 'Storytelling' match aim being something that can't be used in a main event. If you run a fed like TCW and you have a weekly TV Show with high intensity/danger matches, you want to use these matches for your high psychology guys to prevent from fatigue. I use it for the main event of my go home show. </p><p> </p><p> Also if you have guys with high basics, matwork, and chain wrestling you can get some real high scores for a Technical Masterclass. You just have to make sure the crowd is NOT HOT at the point of the show where this match is booked.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshadeex Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Brent Hill is great for Story Telling matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevinTEW13 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 <p>To my knowledge there is no penalty for story telling matches. I have used Story telling in a main event or semi main event slot quite often and the ratings are great. A story telling match between Steve Flash and Bryan Holmes netted me a strong 58 which was the best match I had put on in NYCW in that match. It doesn't hurt to use it in midcard title matches or midcard matches period and I honestly believe it helps much more than it hurts. Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels was a story telling match and you could also call it a spectacle or epic but they all fall into the same category if you truly look at it. It was epic because of who was involved and the stage it was happening on. It was a spectacle because of all the amazing spots a near falls that had the crowd on the edge of their seat for the entire match. It was story telling because well it was a basic story of Mr. WrestleMania trying to truly live up to that name by taking the one thing that truly defined Wrestlemania, Undertakers streak. Now that I've typed that I think we need a match aim to combine all three and no once in a lifetime doesn't count as once in a lifetime would require the two involved to have NEVER competed one on one against each other.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> All in all story telling match aims are very useful and you'd have to make sure your card is well fleshed out so that the story telling match is properly placed so you can get the most out of it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Templar Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 <p>I try to have one match (usually my ME) rated as either Spectacle, Epic, or Steal the Show (depending on who's in it) and I put a "Calm the Crowd" match between my semi-main and main event (my semi-main usually has either Steal the Show or Wild Brawl) and a Lift the Crowd and Work the Crowd match in my pre-show. Other than that, I try to use Story Telling in most of my matches and my match ratings come out pretty decent.</p><p> </p><p> I think of the "Story Telling" note as a basic match (I don't know that I've ever intentionally used "Regular") in my 2001 WCW game.</p><p> </p><p> St.T</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LloydCross Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I always have a comedy/eye candy match in the middle of the card to cool the crowd off and I put my storytelling match right after that. I make sure it has at least one of my guys with the highest performance skills (especially psychology). It absolutely needs to be 15 minutes or longer, and possibly more if you have better guys than I do. It seems to take a really special setup in order to have it rival the match ratings of Steal the Show segments, but in general I get pretty average results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Cobra works well in storytelling matches for me, and some of my best matches have had that note, so it can work well - but I guess the spot in the card and relative crowd heat etc. will make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwhippy Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 <p>If the participants have good enough Charisma and Psychology then it's not a negative at all, at least in my experience.</p><p> </p><p> Also if they're over enough then you can use Spectacle as the aim as that too requires Charisma and Psychology.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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