Gungner Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 In my ECW save, WWF was the only company to extend any deals. WCW, NJPW, CMLL & AAA all ended their TV-deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benrollo Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Great work on the mod Quick question - playing as WCW, how do I broadcast PPVs? My deal with TimeWarner ran out early on, then Turner Broadcasting stopped me renewing because it's not under their media umbrella... But they don't seem to have any PPV broadcasters under their umbrella at all, only commercial TV. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wphill Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 As others have mentioned, something is not quite right with broadcasting. Most companies drop their TV deals immediately and WCW lose their PPV rights as the Turner Networks have exclusivity in place. Sure it's an easy fix, everything else looks awesome, thank you Hive for another great mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 Sorry about the broadcaster issues, I'll look it over when I get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="wphill" data-cite="wphill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41951" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As others have mentioned, something is not quite right with broadcasting.<p> Most companies drop their TV deals immediately and WCW lose their PPV rights as the Turner Networks have exclusivity in place.</p><p> Sure it's an easy fix, everything else looks awesome, thank you Hive for another great mod.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Took quite a bit of testing for TMS to get it right. I believe Genadi has contacted Hive so we'll see what transpires. One simple quick fix could be to just extend them for 5 years, especially if they ran at least that long.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamHead Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 <p>Just something I noticed. All of the show that are cancelled have a minimum quality. However, they contract says that it is set as 0. SMW TV, for example, "Based on the current combination of ... blah blah blah... normal gameplay conditions is 49. </p><p> </p><p> Fixing this seems to solve the issue. I didn't go far into testing, but they make it the first few days. Where the shows that I didn't fix where cancelled the first day.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Oyaji" data-cite="Oyaji" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41951" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Game breaking oversight OR beauty really is in the eye of the beholder: Otto Wanz - sex appeal: 76.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <span>http://www.cwa.at/images/otto_buero.jpg</span></p><p> If this is not one hell of a sexy beast, I don't know who is!</p><p> </p><p> Thanks to all for the feedback on broadcasters! Both justtxyank and Genadi (on behalf of mighty Mod Squad) have kindly offered me to use their respective set of broadcasters, so I'll take a look at which set of those fit the best for the mod. I'll happily admit that I've had serious issues with the area myself and that it's probably best for everyone that I use the work of either of these fine gentlemen. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 In the data I sent, I'd added the wrong All Star training school and forgot to give Dynamite Kid and Dave Taylor deals with ASW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungner Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="JamHead" data-cite="JamHead" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41951" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just something I noticed. All of the show that are cancelled have a minimum quality. However, they contract says that it is set as 0. SMW TV, for example, "Based on the current combination of ... blah blah blah... normal gameplay conditions is 49. <p> </p><p> Fixing this seems to solve the issue. I didn't go far into testing, but they make it the first few days. Where the shows that I didn't fix where cancelled the first day.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I just tried this, and you seem to be right... Every broadcast deal has a minimum show quality based on the gameplay conditions, but all tv-shows are set to 0. Raising them to the broadcasters requirement, seems to allow everyone to renew their deals.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gungner" data-cite="Gungner" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41951" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just tried this, and you seem to be right... Every broadcast deal has a minimum show quality based on the gameplay conditions, but all tv-shows are set to 0. Raising them to the broadcasters requirement, seems to allow everyone to renew their deals.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I extended all deals out and tried editing any Broadcasters with In Min Regions at 0 to be at 1. I played a week and have seen new deals for a series of promotions. I didn't realise the TV shows were set to 0...wonder if it can be edited in game.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungner Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 It can't. You can't edit tv-deals in-game. Has to be done from the main editor, before a new save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 <p>Apart from fixing the broadcasters, the next release will also feature a far more fleshed out British Isles, thanks to TsuMirren. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Also in the next release, I will have increased Otto Wanz's sex appeal to the correct value of 86. Thanks to Oyaji for pointing out that error.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 <p><span>http://static.diepresse.com/images/uploads_500//3/5/f/422751/u_Otto_Wanz_.jpg</span></p><p> Prost!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjybates Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41951" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I will have increased Otto Wanz's sex appeal to the correct value of 86. Thanks to Oyaji for pointing out that error.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Otto Wanz will be my main Nitro girl</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-laz- Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 should make his gender female in the alternate history mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henderson Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 <p>I don't know if you just have them set up to graduate straight out of the WCW Power Plant, but there is no Power Plant listed under the dojos.</p><p> </p><p> As for the broadcasters, I think the confusion is that the TV deals are different than the PPV deal and that's why all the TV deals are expiring the second day in. Some of the requirements are a bit high too...As I don't think Time Warner existed in 1994, in addition there is no way they required professional levels of production. Go watch some of the old WCW PPV's from '94.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjybates Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Does that mean i should wait for the next update before diving into this properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Henderson" data-cite="Henderson" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41951" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't know if you just have them set up to graduate straight out of the WCW Power Plant, but there is no Power Plant listed under the dojos.<p> </p><p> As for the broadcasters, I think the confusion is that the TV deals are different than the PPV deal and that's why all the TV deals are expiring the second day in. Some of the requirements are a bit high too...As I don't think Time Warner existed in 1994, in addition there is no way they required professional levels of production. Go watch some of the old WCW PPV's from '94.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I had the Power Plant set up to open in 1995. I've changed it to 1991 for the next release.</p><p> </p><p> As for Time Warner Cable, it did exist in 1994. Also, you shouldn't judge the production levels based upon modern standards, but those of 1994. From a gameplay point of view, they can't be too lax.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="benjybates" data-cite="benjybates" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41951" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does that mean i should wait for the next update before diving into this properly?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I recommend waiting if you can. Though I naturally encourage people to poke around in the data to spot errors and such.</p><p> </p><p> I expect the next release to be out by the end of the week.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungner Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="benjybates" data-cite="benjybates" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41951" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does that mean i should wait for the next update before diving into this properly?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you change the broadcaster issues into the things suggested on the previous page, there should be no problems with the database. It works perfectly fine for me, after making those changes <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> But if you can wait 'till the end of the week, like Hive said, do that <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henderson Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I had the Power Plant set up to open in 1995. I've changed it to 1991 for the next release. As for Time Warner Cable, it did exist in 1994. Also, you shouldn't judge the production levels based upon modern standards, but those of 1994. From a gameplay point of view, they can't be too lax. I'm not basing it off of modern standards. You can go back and look at the difference in production quality between WCW and the WWF at the time. The WWF were light years ahead of WCW in production quality. It wasn't until Nitro debuted that they started to match them in quality and about 1996 until they were about fully on par with the WWF in quality. The other issue with it is, as soon as the game starts, WCW already isn't meeting the minimum requirements for Turner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungner Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I'm not basing it off of modern standards. You can go back and look at the difference in production quality between WCW and the WWF at the time. The WWF were light years ahead of WCW in production quality. It wasn't until Nitro debuted that they started to match them in quality and about 1996 until they were about fully on par with the WWF in quality. The other issue with it is, as soon as the game starts, WCW already isn't meeting the minimum requirements for Turner. I don't have that problem... WCW are above the wanted popularity level, and are above or at par with the Production Values, Broadcasting Quality and Music... EDIT: I correct myself. They do match their tv-deals, but not their Time Warner PPV deal... But if they're behind with the Production Values, Broadcasting Quality and Music at the start of the save, won't WCW "just" up the production? If not, that can be edited in-game by lowering Time Warner's requirements, so they won't cancel the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Double post sorry Stupid phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 We spent quite a bit of time on broadcasters as there were a lot of changes to the system. I think Adam patched in the new terminology for production a day before or after Hive released which wouldn't have helped either, we made some last minute adjustments to WCW & WWF production in MA with little testing for 1.2 as a result. So yeah, it took Papa, Mr Creative and I (Mostly Papa) all working on broadcasters yet we still feel it needs improving so Hive on his own has done a great job as is. Started a test game today before I get stuck in with my proper long term game..... Still a fantastic mod, first few weeks of test booking ran very smoothly didn't see one thing I would call not normal backstage or handling incidents. 10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I must admit that even before extending all deals I didn't see them dropping off in the 2nd day. Having extended them all I now see new deals and expansions. Maybe it was triggered by being active in the US though, the AI maybe being dormantish if you run in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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