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I'm planning on replicating NXT in my SWF game, because I've got too much talent on my main roster already and guys in developmental that either don't belong there anymore or just don't think they belong there. I want a bridge between RIPW and Supreme TV in the form of a B brand with a televised B show. I've never used one for an extended amount of time in the past though, so I've got a few questions as to how they work.

 

First of all, the minimum grade. I can get a Late Evening slot for a B show on a decent network with a minimum expected grade of 17. Is it really that simple - they'll let me churn out shows at that level with no downside? Are there any other factors that might eventually lead to the show being taken off air?

 

Secondly, will it benefit the popularity of my workers much? I've brought some of the top guys up from RIPW such as Spencer Spade and Primus Allen, and they've still just about been at opener upon arrival. Will I be able to build up guys on a B show to the point that they'll be able to feasibly debut on my main show as a midcarder? Or should they be used mainly just for the sake of improving skills?

 

Finally, is there any disadvantage whatsoever in terms of my company's popularity?

 

Plus a bonus question: any name suggestions? :)

 

Thanks a lot.

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The catch is that B shows have no impact on your company's popularity. The good news is that bad shows won't tank your company's pop, but in turn, good shows will also not benefit you. It's mostly to give your lower card guys something to do, and I think to keep them from complaining. I'm not 100% on if working B shows will keep workers happy, but someone may be able to confirm or deny that.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MarkyGeorge" data-cite="MarkyGeorge" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41989" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm planning on replicating NXT in my SWF game, because I've got too much talent on my main roster already and guys in developmental that either don't belong there anymore or just don't think they belong there. I want a bridge between RIPW and Supreme TV in the form of a B brand with a televised B show. I've never used one for an extended amount of time in the past though, so I've got a few questions as to how they work.<p> </p><p> First of all, the minimum grade. I can get a Late Evening slot for a B show on a decent network with a minimum expected grade of 17. Is it really that simple - they'll let me churn out shows at that level with no downside? Are there any other factors that might eventually lead to the show being taken off air?</p><p> </p><p> Secondly, will it benefit the popularity of my workers much? I've brought some of the top guys up from RIPW such as Spencer Spade and Primus Allen, and they've still just about been at opener upon arrival. Will I be able to build up guys on a B show to the point that they'll be able to feasibly debut on my main show as a midcarder? Or should they be used mainly just for the sake of improving skills?</p><p> </p><p> Finally, is there any disadvantage whatsoever in terms of my company's popularity?</p><p> </p><p> Plus a bonus question: any name suggestions? <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Thanks a lot.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No catch at all. The "fans" and the network expect the B show to stink and so there are not high expectations for it. Therefore, you can put on a crappy show and it will not matter. Well obviously not a really crappy show.</p><p> </p><p> I have used the B show in the past to build up worker's popularity. Granted that was in TEW10 but I assume it still works the same way. I have a B show in one of my games but I have not played past the first month yet so I cannot tell you for certain that it will but I am just going to assume it does. </p><p> </p><p> Mainly because you are giving the workers exposure and anytime they can get exposure their popularity should go up.</p><p> </p><p> I call my SWF B show SWF Uprising. Mainly because it is one of the default shows the SWF has and it comes with a ready made logo.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gungner" data-cite="Gungner" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41989" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also, workers DO gain popularity from B-shows, but at a slower rate than on A-shows.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Is this true? My impression is that it still comes down to viewership (and A shows are usually much more widely viewed than B shows, but not always).</p><p> </p><p> The downside to B shows is that they are money losers, but they're generally a pretty good idea if a company is financially secure.</p>
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<p>B shows definite have smaller viewership and they definitely seem to grow worker popularity slower. Just by the fact that they are designated as a B show seems to be a limiting factor in the viewership. </p><p> </p><p>

The cost seems to be biggest downside. Or used to be. I haven't paid much attention so far in TEW 2016 (and money usually isn't a huge factor for the companies I tend to play), but you aren't going to be making much if any money from a B show. It may actually cost you.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="nebradska" data-cite="nebradska" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41989" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is this true? My impression is that it still comes down to viewership (and A shows are usually much more widely viewed than B shows, but not always).<p> </p><p> The downside to B shows is that they are money losers, but they're generally a pretty good idea if a company is financially secure.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well it is down to viewership but unless you negotiate terrible broadcasting deals, the A show will always garner far more viewers. So it goes hand in hand.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jaredpalexander" data-cite="jaredpalexander" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41989" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyone know if skill development is also hampered on B shows or do wrestlers still develop at the same rate as A-show talent?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Although I've not played with a B show in this version, in previous versions matches on B shows seemed to have no penalties in this way. They're pretty much there to let you control undercard development, including talent.</p>
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Running a WWE 2004 save so of course I have Velocity and Heat as B shows. Broadcasters want 17+s for my ratings. As far as viewership I bring in about 1 million per show compared to about 25 mil per A show. So that gives you an idea of viewership. Hope that was a bit helpful.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DevilofNG" data-cite="DevilofNG" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41989" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Running a WWE 2004 save so of course I have Velocity and Heat as B shows. Broadcasters want 17+s for my ratings. As far as viewership I bring in about 1 million per show compared to about 25 mil per A show. So that gives you an idea of viewership. Hope that was a bit helpful.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Are you on different networks? If you ran all shows on Spike for example, I don't think the gap in viewership would be that big. Still, it proves the point.</p><p> </p><p> To answer the questions above about skill development, gains are not "less" per say. Although a lot depends on the workers involved remember, and your B show isn't going to be packed with top level talent.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mrwhippy" data-cite="mrwhippy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41989" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Are you on different networks? If you ran all shows on Spike for example, I don't think the gap in viewership would be that big. Still, it proves the point.<p> </p><p> To answer the questions above about skill development, gains are not "less" per say. Although a lot depends on the workers involved remember, and your B show isn't going to be packed with top level talent.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> God no lol. My Raw is on about 5 channels, including the BBC so we're not on Spike anymore for Raw. My range of viewership is wayyyyyyyy larger for Raw than for my B shows. Smackdown is on about 7-8 channels.</p>
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The big advantage to B shows for me is that as stated, nobody expects them to be good, so you can use them to build up skills. Say you're trying to raise someone's mic skills. You can book them in a 6 minute interview slot every week on a B show (talk show hype is good) that's going to get a lousy score and it doesn't matter. So if you think about a guy like Chris Benoit or Lance Storm- guys who are amazing in the ring but atrocious on the mic, you can over the span of a few months give them practice that will get them to be decent without killing your main show. You can also do that to be better in ring workers- especially if you're in an alliance and/or have a development system with good trainers in it. If you think about Bill Goldberg when he first came up on the scene, he was green as grass but had a huge upside. On a B-Show you can schedule him to work with a good worker, whether is someone on the roster like Steven Regal or someone doing training in your development system or someone brought in from over seas for the purpose of doing the job to Goldberg. So let him fight Mil Mascaras or Tiger Mask or whomever- someone you have no intention of ever really using- to develop his skills in 10-12 minute matches, while over on Nitro you have him doing the usual 3 minute squash match routine. In six months of doing that he might actually have decent enough skills that he might not superkick Bret Hart into Retirement and be able to carry off a match with good workrate.
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Only catch is you have far less people watching, so your workers' popularity increase much more slowly than on an A-show. Like my current B-show gets about 1/10 the TV ratings of my A-show and roughly 1/5 the attendance. They are absolutely worth it, though. I usually make the undercard all matches of midcarders/lower midcarders beating openers with a main event of midcarders getting enough time to potentially put on a great match. I usually make 1-2 announcers workers I am trying to get over. They get roughly a point of popularity every show (think this worked a little better in 2016).
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<p>A B-Show is a good place to try out things that, on the surface may sound good, but you're not sure what the actual end result might be.</p><p> </p><p>

You may find two top workers simply don't click. Better that it happened on the B-Show.</p><p> </p><p>

You may also find that two lower workers work so well together, that they pull a surprise great match, and you might want to use that again on a bigger event.</p>

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<p>I like to use my b show mainly to put on mid card matches, maybe much younger talent barely known and using it as a show to test what works for them and what doesn't etc. </p><p>

Or I can have one of my main superstars be on the b show to tag with or face the young novice to try to improve him.</p>

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