DocStevens Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Am I not understanding the "meddling feature"? Does it only produce negative relationships? Not counting the times when the result was "no change in the relationship", I have got 37 straight negative results. This is not a feature, this is a hard coded waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kehi7 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Most of the time I get no change. Every now and then I will get a positive relationship, and rarely will I get a negative relationship, but it happens. I try to put two people together who has simmering tension between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigilistic Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Whereas as I can fairly consistently form good relationships with my workers. Pretty sure it's keyed off of one of your stats, as well as the personalities of the parties involved. The one time my meddling backfired, it was when I tried to fix a simmering tension between a locker room cancer and another worker. So, um, not exactly a "hard coded waste of time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio3060 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I'm sure there is something that it checks. I have had several positive results with Jack DeColt but can't get anybody to like Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvargus Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Over time I think I've generated nearly 20 friendships in my locker room in my current game. I seem to succeed about one time in four. Admittedly I have no negative influences in the locker room and I do try to make people who I believe have somewhat similar personalities into friends. Of course, this can be frightening. I had one worker show up late and was afraid to come down on them because half of my main eventers liked them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sigilistic" data-cite="Sigilistic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Whereas as I can fairly consistently form good relationships with my workers. Pretty sure it's keyed off of one of your stats, as well as the personalities of the parties involved. The one time my meddling backfired, it was when I tried to fix a simmering tension between a locker room cancer and another worker. <p> </p><p> So, um, not exactly a "hard coded waste of time."</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, I've also had tons of success and unsure it's ever backfired on me. Most of my successes have come when I've attempted it on pairs of people who both have positive personalities.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 The results are based on the personalities involved. If you're meddling with a particularly bad bunch of people then you will get negative results; if you're meddling with mostly nice people then you will get mostly positive results. There is nothing hard coded, and even a quick glance at other people's posts shows that there is a wide variety in results and will not always cause one result or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Adam Ryland" data-cite="Adam Ryland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The results are based on the personalities involved. If you're meddling with a particularly bad bunch of people then you will get negative results; if you're meddling with mostly nice people then you will get mostly positive results. <p> </p><p> There is nothing hard coded, and even a quick glance at other people's posts shows that there is a wide variety in results and will not always cause one result or another.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Makes sense and I find it realistic to be linked to personalities. If it was easy to always get our way with it, it would become gamey at some point.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andylion Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Adam Ryland" data-cite="Adam Ryland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The results are based on the personalities involved. If you're meddling with a particularly bad bunch of people then you will get negative results; if you're meddling with mostly nice people then you will get mostly positive results. <p> </p><p> There is nothing hard coded, and even a quick glance at other people's posts shows that there is a wide variety in results and will not always cause one result or another.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This would explain how I screwed up the relationship between Nash and The Giant...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 FWIW, on the CVerseXL database I'm playing a game where I pretty much only hire positive/very positive backstage influences. I meddle every show, and currently have 14 positive relationships, almost all of which have come from that 'interference'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamex173 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Adam Ryland" data-cite="Adam Ryland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The results are based on the personalities involved. If you're meddling with a particularly bad bunch of people then you will get negative results; if you're meddling with mostly nice people then you will get mostly positive results. <p> </p><p> There is nothing hard coded, and even a quick glance at other people's posts shows that there is a wide variety in results and will not always cause one result or another.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's really smart. I thought it was simply random but I like this even better. Is doing a rib the same thing?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenborn Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 The results are based on the personalities involved. If you're meddling with a particularly bad bunch of people then you will get negative results; if you're meddling with mostly nice people then you will get mostly positive results.Does this also hold true for engineering negative relationships? We're more likely to succeed building Strong Dislikes and Hatreds when the workers involved have obnoxious personalities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LigerLiger Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Believe it or not,my meddling made Bret Hart and Vince McMahon become good friends - that in 1999(Loooong story) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocStevens Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 Am I not understanding the "meddling feature"? Does it only produce negative relationships? Not counting the times when the result was "no change in the relationship", I have got 37 straight negative results. This is not a feature, this is a hard coded waste of time. Streak is now at 42 straight shows of either a negative relationship change or no change. Hoping to make 50!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DocStevens" data-cite="DocStevens" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Streak is now at 42 straight shows of either a negative relationship change or no change. Hoping to make 50!!!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <span>http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww224/kevincumpton/Random%20Screenshots/talents_zpsw30kw2ye.png</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I have meddled with so much success it's silly. I've held about 80 shows and had success on about 25 of them. If you have the correct build it's not that hard....and if start out with people that have similar personalitys its really easy.</p><p> </p><p> Half of the time they tend to click together and branch out if you get at least two of the members to like someone.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DocStevens" data-cite="DocStevens" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Streak is now at 42 straight shows of either a negative relationship change or no change. Hoping to make 50!!!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Are you trying with people with positive personalities?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael20001 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 <p>I've definitely noticed that when it comes to personalities and meddling..</p><p> </p><p> Positive + Positive = mostly positive changes, some neutral, never had a negative change</p><p> </p><p> Positive+ Neutral = mostly no changes, occasionally positive</p><p> </p><p> Neutral + Neutral = Generally have no changes</p><p> </p><p> Anything + Negative = not sure i've ever had it work with a negative personality involved.</p><p> </p><p> So it is definitely mostly linked to the workers personalities themselves. with a degree of luck. So you are either trying to meddle with the wrong people, or you just have very very bad luck</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRodzen Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 <p>I've created so many strong friendships in one of my MAW saves that it feels like cheating. In reality, it can hurt you by creating friendships between the wrong people. With the new clique system and the way that workers can turn half the locker room against a particular worker, it can really damage the backstage morale. I can count the negative relationships I've created on one hand. Otherwise nothing happens. I use the 'meddle' feature before every single show I book. I can't believe you've had so many negatives come from it. That's insane! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Edit: For instance, if you have Jay Chord (Mario Da Silva) or a massive egotistical jerk on your roster, I wouldn't bother trying to meddle relationships for him or her. If s/he ever has an issue with a worker down the road, all of their buddies will too.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LoganRodzen" data-cite="LoganRodzen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've created so many strong friendships in one of my MAW saves that it feels like cheating. <strong>In reality, it can hurt you by creating friendships between the wrong people.</strong> With the new clique system and the way that workers can turn half the locker room against a particular worker, it can really damage the backstage morale. I can count the negative relationships I've created on one hand. Otherwise nothing happens. I use the 'meddle' feature before every single show I book. I can't believe you've had so many negatives come from it. That's insane! <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Edit: For instance, if you have Jay Chord (Mario Da Silva) or a massive egotistical jerk on your roster, I wouldn't bother trying to meddle relationships for him or her. If s/he ever has an issue with a worker down the road, all of their buddies will too.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There has to bee downsides of creating friendships to avoid it being one sided. From what I see here it's not as easy as most people to create positive relations for everyone, but even if it is at some game, it might turn to byte them. Would you say that currently the feature is not one sided?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DocStevens" data-cite="DocStevens" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Am I not understanding the "meddling feature"? Does it only produce negative relationships?<p> </p><p> Not counting the times when the result was "no change in the relationship", I have got 37 straight negative results. This is not a feature, this is a hard coded waste of time.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't know who you are meddling with, Netinyahu and Hamas by the sound of it, but I can assure you that it does produce successful results, I use it before every show, it is particularly useful when workers start spreading rumours.. I tend to meddle with the good guys, and leave the bad guys alone, try and get a better dressing room, with more positive traits..</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LoganRodzen" data-cite="LoganRodzen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've created so many strong friendships in one of my MAW saves that it feels like cheating. In reality, it can hurt you by creating friendships between the wrong people. With the new clique system and the way that workers can turn half the locker room against a particular worker, it can really damage the backstage morale. I can count the negative relationships I've created on one hand. Otherwise nothing happens. I use the 'meddle' feature before every single show I book. I can't believe you've had so many negatives come from it. That's insane! <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Edit: For instance, if you have Jay Chord (Mario Da Silva) or a massive egotistical jerk on your roster, I wouldn't bother trying to meddle relationships for him or her. If s/he ever has an issue with a worker down the road, all of their buddies will too.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> One thing I do is I build my own cliques and then start combining them. I have a 3 brand split and all 3 of my brands have a 100 percent backstage rating.</p><p> </p><p> Another thing I do is I like to have matches with people that are friends because if someone botches they don't get mad about it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocStevens Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaded" data-cite="Jaded" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Are you trying with people with positive personalities?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have tried it on a mixture of different personalities, perhaps I am just extremely unlucky!!</p><p> </p><p> Either way the good news I am now at 54 straight attempts with the result being no chance or a negative relationship. Maybe I am just a major a-hole and don't know it! <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Actually, that's a good point; What's your UC's personality? If you're unpleasant, that may factor into the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="James Casey" data-cite="James Casey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Actually, that's a good point; What's your UC's personality? If you're unpleasant, that may factor into the outcome.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> User characters don't have personalities.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LigerLiger Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>User characters don't have personalities.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's a sad thing to read.Our UC's are just booking/hiring machines with no love or human traces.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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