Jaded Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>User characters don't have personalities.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Do talents play into it though? I generally play with high diplomacy and leadership, wondering if that explains some of my success?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaded" data-cite="Jaded" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do talents play into it though? I generally play with high diplomacy and leadership, wondering if that explains some of my success?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've posted my stats favoring both of those and I've had pretty good success. I'm pretty sure it plays into it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamelessposer Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 How are you guys even making use of this feature? I didn't know it existed until I saw this thread, and now I can't find it anywhere in the game's UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shamelessposer" data-cite="shamelessposer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How are you guys even making use of this feature? I didn't know it existed until I saw this thread, and now I can't find it anywhere in the game's UI.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Locker room controls on first screen when you book a card. (If you have any incidents, doesn't appear until you've dealt with them.)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartman Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Liger!Liger!" data-cite="Liger!Liger!" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's a sad thing to read.Our UC's are just booking/hiring machines with no love or human traces.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well do keep in mind that you can tick people off or end up with a lot of friends based on what you do, and if you ever start with an in-game person, their friendships and dislike/hatred of workers stay. They just don't have a personality.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>User characters don't have personalities.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's actually incorrect, user character's do use the personality matrix of the avatar and it does factor into some calculations.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d12345 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DocStevens" data-cite="DocStevens" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Am I not understanding the "meddling feature"? Does it only produce negative relationships?<p> </p><p> Not counting the times when the result was "no change in the relationship", I have got 37 straight negative results. This is not a feature, this is a hard coded waste of time.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've never got negative relationships when doing 'positive meddling.' I'm not sure that's possible. I think if you do positive meddling it's either a new positive relationship or nothing.</p><p> </p><p> Anyway I've had a lot of success and even got a click built in TCW.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brat99 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've never got negative relationships when doing 'positive meddling.' I'm not sure that's possible. I think if you do positive meddling it's either a new positive relationship or nothing.<p> </p><p> Anyway I've had a lot of success and even got a click built in TCW.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nope. I have actually had positive meddling backfire and make a relationship worse.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamelessposer Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaded" data-cite="Jaded" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Locker room controls on first screen when you book a card. (If you have any incidents, doesn't appear until you've dealt with them.)</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks. Never occurred to me that could be a button.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarEatWorld Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brat99" data-cite="brat99" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nope. I have actually had positive meddling backfire and make a relationship worse.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As have I. Kourtney and Matthew Macks are not friends... though she is a negative dressing room force anyway so I guess I can sort of confirm that part also.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Avalanche Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I would assume it's dependent on perhaps your Diplomacy trait (or one of the other ones, I don't remember what they're called on top of my head)? I more often than not get the results I hope for when I meddle, and when I don't, I don't think I have ever gotten the opposite result from what I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d12345 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dr_Avalanche" data-cite="Dr_Avalanche" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would assume it's dependent on perhaps your Diplomacy trait (or one of the other ones, I don't remember what they're called on top of my head)? I more often than not get the results I hope for when I meddle, and when I don't, I don't think I have ever gotten the opposite result from what I wanted.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yea same here. Didn't know it was possible. My diplomacy isn't very high either. I only put 3 points to it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter8905 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Using the 1987 database as WWF. I used Positive meddling between Hogan and Bret. I figured when the time comes for Bret to dethrone Hogan in a coupe of years I'd be better off if they were friends, may make Hogan more compliant. It worked !! they now have a strong friendship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henderson Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I was actually able to turn the relationship around with Hogan and Paul Orndorff. My next mission is Hogan and Ventura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42097" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> If you're meddling with a particularly bad bunch of people then you will get negative results<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Adam does this lead to bad results 100% of the time or a majority of the time?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greylocke Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Question: If I were to successfully create a positive relationship between my owner and one of my workers, does that mean he/she will be less likely to leave my company/be stolen by rival? That's the only reason I'd want to use meddling to create positive relationship, since I don't really want to encourage cliques in my locker room. I do want use it to try to remove existing bad relationships, though (although my company only has one so far and I can't do anything with that yet because one of the workers is out from injury). Oh, and I have another question regarding this: Des Davids is injured but he can still take part in angles....that means he does show up for work, right? Just not to wrestle. So why is it that he isn't as available a meddling target? Personally, my policy would be to try and remove bad relationships, but otherwise leave positive and neutral ones intact. So far I've used my locker room controls primarily on pulling Minor Ribs. Those have been working well for me in general, either having no effects or improving locker room morale. I haven't upset anyone with it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Could this feature cause two people with a friendship to fall in love? In my 95 mod, I'm trying to get my girl caw to fall in love with Saraya. They have a strong friendship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartman Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 <p>Unfortunately, you aren't able to use yourself in meddling. Believe me, as HBK in the MA mod, I'd really, really love to be able to. The only way I think you could do that is to play just as the booker and try to get a bunch of great relationships between the workers you want to keep and the owner so maybe if they wouldn't negotiate with you, the owner would just sign them.</p><p> </p><p> The only way to get what you were wanting if you are the owner, at least in previous games, was sometimes when they tested positive for drugs, you could get a loyalty result. That would keep them from being poached. Haven't had that result yet in 16 though.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 as I asked. is there way to build a love relationship via positive meddling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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