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So as I recall, Adam treated us to a special bonus CV database on New Years 2014.I have no idea if he plans on doing the same this year, but it's fun to think about!

 

What are some (realistic) things that you'd like to see evolve in the CVerse over the last year?

 

Here's a few of mine off the top of my head:

 

1.) Raymond Diaz coming back to the US and signing with TCW

2.) Valiant as SWF champ

3.) A significant injury to one of the USPW big draws

4.) Marat in SOTBPW--I'd like to take him out of the US National Battle equation

5.) Kozue or Ugaki named PGHW figurehead

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I dont think it was for new years. We got the updated database because he'd overhauled it for WS3 anyway. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />
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<p>TCW drops to Cult, and Kyle Rhodes resigns. The Chord family buys out the promotion and Sammy Bach takes over as booker.</p><p> </p><p>

Brent Hill and Human Arsenal finally retire from the ring, and either start a dojo or small promotion focused entirely on tag team talent.</p><p> </p><p>

I actually think Marat should go to Japan, but join GCG.</p><p> </p><p>

Ricky DeColt angers his family and goes to TCW to tag team with Edd Stone as 'The Black Sheep'</p><p> </p><p>

Eric Eisen gets arrested while drunk driving and becomes toxic.</p>

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<p>I've been thinking about ideas. I don't want to be stuck with "half-measures" and unresolved storylines -- I'd consider making a 2018 CVerse Database. Finally, I want to balance the game in the new database. </p><p>

</p><ul><li>Netstream funds 21CW to counter USPW and Reverie<br /></li><li> USPW begins to emphasize in-ring action, with owner Allen Packer asserting more control over his company's product. SWF becomes more "extreme", adding Hardcore and Risque elements to their show. <br /></li><li> Alicia Strong leaves USPW. She founds her own touring company with Sensational Ogiwara in Japan. <br /></li><li>Kudo sells out GCG to PGHW to spite Burning Hammer for firing Kanine Komine. <br /></li><li>TCW goes bankrupt after losing Rocky Golden and Wolf Hawkins.<br /></li><li> The big names (Bach, Andrews and Peak) head to SWF or USPW,<br /></li><li> the old guys (RDJ, Bryan Vessey and Human Arsenal) retire, <br /></li><li>several head (Jay Chord, Mighty Mo and Aaron Andrews) to Mexico (SOTBPW) or the UK (21CW).<br /></li><li> a few end up in Japan [burning Hammer] or in Australia [RAW]<br /></li><li> the rest end up working the independent scene. <br /></li><li>Canadian Golden Combat continues to decline, and 4C takes its place. They leave the COTT after they rise to cult<br /></li><li> Joaquin Soler retires and Pheonix I takes over OLLIE. Phoenix I sells his ownership stake to CILL. He uses the money to start his own company in Mexico. CILL now is the clear #2 in Mexico. <br /></li><li> EX2010 leaves the Modern Japan Movement and begins touring. <br /></li><li> In Japan, the Tsunami shakes the industry.<br /></li><li> SAISHO closes down. <br /></li><li> Burning Hammer and PGHW take significant popularity hits. Both are at Cult.<br /></li><li> WLW manages to weather the storm due to their advertiser-family product, loyal talent and star power. They become the clear #1 in Japan.<br /></li><li> 5SSW grows thanks to increased exposure through the Modern Japan Movement.<br /></li><li> Black Canvas Grappling comes under financial duress, but after several GCG loyalists accept buyouts from PGHW to join the promotion, they see a slight surge in business that saves them from bankruptcy. <br /></li><li> WEXXV drops to local, and survives only thanks to the Modern Japan Movement. <br /></li><li> A new Japanese promotion opens and joins the Modern Japan Movement, bringing their membership to four.<br /></li><li> APW, QAW, ACPW and UEW close their doors. New promotions open in Europe, Australia and the United Kingdom. <br /></li></ul><p></p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>People have been trying to kill off TCW for years. Nobody likes Rocky Golden <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Before the 2016 DB, I thought TCW was the easiest promotion to run for beginners. If play as owner, you have more talent and long-term will obliterate SWF. No one can compete with Rocky (100) and Sammy's (98) star power.</p><p> </p><p> TCW isn't bad off as many think they are -- however, with Tommy Cornell gone, there isn't a point to keeping the "TCW" moniker. </p><p> </p><p> Despite this, TCW wouldn't be able to survive financially without Cornell -- especially with owners who don't want to invest. </p><p> </p><p> I've always thought Tommy named the promotion after himself -- The TC <em>really</em> stood for "Tommy Cornell" but "Tommy Cornell Wrestling" isn't going to push march. Now that he's sold the promotion and no longer works for them, why would the ownership keep the name? What does it say about a promotion that derives their name from a departed worker?</p><p> </p><p> Which leaves two options: close the company or "rebrand" Total Wrestling (again!) -- and have a "new" company other fans won't recognize. With their financial situation, Total isn't going to keep stars (Rocky Golden) long term -- Rocky probably starts with too much pop to re-negotiate his contract. </p><p> </p><p> The easiest solution would be to return TCW to Hollywood Championship Grappling (HCG). From an in-game standpoint, BriCo can profit from the name value and company history. Many broadcasting talents worked in the original company, so overhauling the commentary team wouldn't be necessary. And there are belts (somewhere), some PPV logos (again, somewhere) and a working logo. However, TCW would be going <em>backwards</em> and many members don't like this. </p><p> </p><p> The second option is far harder to justify. First, re-branding Total will be difficult. The "fan mod" will incorporate a "custom company" with logos and belts that probably aren't memorable as the original logos. The decision itself appears egotistical -- given Total's overall size, why would a fan mod insert their own promotional logos? </p><p> </p><p> TCW closing as the clear #3 has precedence. Total starts in a similar position to DAVE in 2005 -- financial straights, a decline in business and several lost stars. In fact, it would be less canon for Total survived another five years -- and why should we take a half measure and chart TCW's death spiral? Why wait? </p><p> </p><p> Hence, why I don't want to make a 2017 mod. There isn't really a point -- too much is in flux.</p>
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These are my thoughts for the next iteration, it could be 2017, 2018, etc.

 

SWF: I could see SWF taking an imperialist measure in making their own broadcaster network, the SWF Network, to counteract USPW's deal with Reverie and the growing trends in streaming. It'd be like WWE Network where SWF runs developmental and PPV events there, their TV contracts remain as is for now.

 

To further this, I think itd be cool if SWF began signing struggling indies to development partnerships. The indy fed stays alive, and gets the reach of SWFs channel without having to worry about going under.

 

Either that, or they create their own alliance, "SWF Universe", with an SWF USA, SWF UK, SWF Japan, etc. basically invading every territory in an attempt to regain market share. This would also be a huge f*** you to COTT in particular.

 

Or you can merge those two ideas (an alliance of SWF and different feeder leagues in different territories so they can trade workers) , with each region having a product best suited for that area mixed with some SWF mainstream flavor.

 

USPW: As they do in the game, I could see them pretty much signing anyone they can to bolster their roster. Maybe take some more old acts from TCW or SWF. They are also too big to not have a development company. I'd like to see them revive SCCW as a feeder league, this time with a Women's division to boot. Or have two feeder leagues, one for the male and one for the female wrestlers.

 

I think one thing USPW has to do to complete this revolution is to sign back Rick Law and make him a top babyface. It just doesn't feel right to have Rich Money back in USPW and not his arch rival. I also see Marat Khlokov returning for USPW to be the new giant to defeat for Nicky Champion.

 

TCW: From the looks of an in game perspective, it seemed like TCW's "Tradition Updated" product worked so well because Tommy Cornell was over and one of the best in the world, and was a top draw. With him out of the picture, TCW really fails to book effectively even though they have great performers. They always fluctuate between Cult and National in most saves, it seems like they are to 2016 what USPW were to 2010 and 2013 when the AI is left to book it.

 

I think TCW is going through what WWF did in the 90's. They either lost or are losing all their major draws. Just think in the past 10 years they lost Tommy, BLZ Bubb, Liberty, Rip Chord, Joey Minnesota.

 

Their top guys are mainly younger guys, but theres no reason for Rocky to be a top 5 draw in NA and stay with TCW when he could make more money headlining for SWF or USPW. So I think Rocky will probably take a big money offer from SWF (especially to replace Jack Bruce as figurehead) , as will Wolf Hawkins, or possibly 21CW for Wolf due to his Tommy Cornell connection (and this would replace the loss of Joss Thompson). I could see RDJ, Giant Tana, and American Buffalo maybe leaving for USPW for a lighter workload. Bryan Vessey would become a part time act. Aaron Andrews would be the one to stay loyal to TCW and be their core full time draw.

 

Mighty Mo, Jay Chord, Marc Speed and Matt Hocking will spearhead the youth movement, with Eddie Peak, Joshua Taylor, Sammy Bach, and John Anderson all getting latter career pushes to the top of the card.

 

Greg Black would be signed to team with Benny Benson, maybe book a huge four way feud between them, Guide/Scout, Titan/Shark and Edd/Huggins similar to E&C/Hardyz/Dudleyz in WWF.

 

PSW, AAA, CZCW: It's about time one of these promotions begin to make the bid towards Cult. They've been around for too long. I could see CZCW working as the Cornellverse's PWG. But, PSW's goal is to "succeed where DAVE failed and complete the revolution". So it'd be kind of inaccurate for them to coast at regional forever. AAA hints at Catherine Quine taking more risks to gain more profits. So for one of these two promotions, something needs to be done.

 

AAA has a good roster, and their dojo will give them good talent on autopilot. If they can maybe snatch some old acts like Cherry Bomb and Raven Nightfall and use them to draw butts to seats while they build their younger girls up, I think would be the best option. Just by booking Raven/J-Ro/Cherry Bomb/SMY on a periodic basis they can do big numbers for an indy.

 

PSW, just by playing with them, can't sustain themselves on Hardcore forever and grow their audience to a large profit until you get close to cult. What made ECW (or in C-Verses case DAVE) so great wasn't the hardcore stuff per say, it was because they had their finger on the pulse to what the trends were. Another thing that made those promotions great were the diversity in talent. You can have garbage wrestlers like Sandman, someone as athletic and charismatic as RVD, someone not nearly as charismatic but talented technically like Lance Storm, Lucha talent, Japanese talent, etc. I think its time for PSW to alter their product to fit 2017-2018. Still have Hardcore, but make PSW a place where any type of wrestler can prosper AND you can turn a profit month by month. All of the promotions that relied too much on hardcore/risqué/cult action failed. DAVE, MOSC, XFW. Either PSW will tone down their attitude to sustain themselves, or they will eventually fail just like their predecessors.

 

That being said, I think its time for these promotions to make a big towards TV shows or at least televised events.

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<p>After refusing to book anywhere but the Northwest US, AAA is bought out by USPW. </p><p> </p><p>

Joanne Rodriguez opens up her own women's promotion in Arizona.</p><p> </p><p>

Golden Delicious returns to the business after the birth of her child, moves back to her homeland of Australia and opens a promotion there.</p><p> </p><p>

Some former BSC girls return to the business, specifically the Neptunes.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KnowYourEnemy" data-cite="KnowYourEnemy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Before the 2016 DB, I thought TCW was the easiest promotion to run for beginners. If play as owner, you have more talent and long-term will obliterate SWF. No one can compete with Rocky (100) and Sammy's (98) star power.<p> </p><p> TCW isn't bad off as many think they are -- however, with Tommy Cornell gone, there isn't a point to keeping the "TCW" moniker. </p><p> </p><p> Despite this, TCW wouldn't be able to survive financially without Cornell -- especially with owners who don't want to invest. </p><p> </p><p> I've always thought Tommy named the promotion after himself -- The TC <em>really</em> stood for "Tommy Cornell" but "Tommy Cornell Wrestling" isn't going to push march. Now that he's sold the promotion and no longer works for them, why would the ownership keep the name? What does it say about a promotion that derives their name from a departed worker?</p><p> </p><p> Which leaves two options: close the company or "rebrand" Total Wrestling (again!) -- and have a "new" company other fans won't recognize. With their financial situation, Total isn't going to keep stars (Rocky Golden) long term -- Rocky probably starts with too much pop to re-negotiate his contract. </p><p> </p><p> The easiest solution would be to return TCW to Hollywood Championship Grappling (HCG). From an in-game standpoint, BriCo can profit from the name value and company history. Many broadcasting talents worked in the original company, so overhauling the commentary team wouldn't be necessary. And there are belts (somewhere), some PPV logos (again, somewhere) and a working logo. However, TCW would be going <em>backwards</em> and many members don't like this. </p><p> </p><p> The second option is far harder to justify. First, re-branding Total will be difficult. The "fan mod" will incorporate a "custom company" with logos and belts that probably aren't memorable as the original logos. The decision itself appears egotistical -- given Total's overall size, why would a fan mod insert their own promotional logos? </p><p> </p><p> TCW closing as the clear #3 has precedence. Total starts in a similar position to DAVE in 2005 -- financial straights, a decline in business and several lost stars. In fact, it would be less canon for Total survived another five years -- and why should we take a half measure and chart TCW's death spiral? Why wait? </p><p> </p><p> Hence, why I don't want to make a 2017 mod. There isn't really a point -- too much is in flux.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why would BriCo close the company when they just bought it?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>#StopTryingToKillTCW2017. <p> </p><p> Also it's time to let logic place SWF as undisputed #1. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Also, we should get a full circle and Tommy returns to SWF.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> TCW just lost its identity after Tommy Cornell left honestly.</p><p> </p><p> I'd personally love to see Rocky leave for SWF and Jay Chord become the new figurehead top heel for TCW.</p><p> </p><p> I could imagine him being like how HBK was during his prime, maybe even worse.</p>
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<p>Hmmm, always thought TCW was already the name before Cornelle took over. Obviously I never played TEW 2004 <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p>

"Tommy Cornell Wrestling" does sound like something the dirtsheets would come up with to make fun of TCW.</p><p> </p><p>

I personally don't think TCW would die in 2017. They have a company pumping money onto them and a loyal fanbase. Even if Kyle Rhodes is greatly incompetent, they would just sack him for someone else. However, TCW will embrace their Cult status. They will remain a workrate paradise, and even more so after dropping the Realism from the product (a sign of moving on from Cornell). Rocky Golden leaving is a given. Wolf Hawkins is still in the company, but whenever his deal comes up, he'll likely to leave anyway. </p><p> </p><p>

So yeah, I think TCW would stay in business, but since they couldn't compete with the two "entertainment" companies, they would have to embrace their new status as smaller alternative.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="codeydbw" data-cite="codeydbw" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why would BriCo close the company when they just bought it?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Simply, they aren't making the profit expected or are even losing money. TCW made a profit <em>with</em> Cornell, and consistently was financially strapped under his leadership. With Tommy gone, and a cult-level TCW no longer able to compete for National-Level stars, will BriCo invest in the promotion?</p><p> </p><p> If the in-game finances are an indicator, the answer is a resounding no. Even if they don't sell quickly, does it make sense to keep talent tied to a doomed mid-level promotion? </p><p> </p><p> USPW's new owner, Allen Packer, is a wrestling fan. He doesn't really care if the company makes a profit. The faceless "BriCo" invested in the company to make a return, and after a year or two of dwindling sales, it makes sense for BriCo to cut their lost losses early and sell to USPW.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KnowYourEnemy" data-cite="KnowYourEnemy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Simply, they aren't making the profit expected or are even losing money. TCW made a profit <em>with</em> Cornell, and consistently was financially strapped under his leadership. With Tommy gone, and a cult-level TCW no longer able to compete for National-Level stars, will BriCo invest in the promotion?<p> </p><p> If the in-game finances are an indicator, the answer is a resounding no. Even if they don't sell quickly, does it make sense to keep talent tied to a doomed mid-level promotion? </p><p> </p><p> USPW's new owner, Allen Packer, is a wrestling fan. He doesn't really care if the company makes a profit. The faceless "BriCo" invested in the company to make a return, and after a year or two of dwindling sales, it makes sense for BriCo to cut their lost losses early and sell to USPW.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ring of Honour.</p><p> </p><p> That's the model the new TCW are going for. It's likely BriCo will tighten the pursestrings and trim the fat rather than outright closing a still (if marginally) profitable company. The likes of Golden and the terminally overrated Samuel Bach will likely leave but there is still enough around to float the card.</p>
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Spencer Spade on the main roster or we riot :p

 

I always run smaller promotions, so I usually hope and pray that the bigger companies "screw it up" with their young talent and allow me to steal them. Even if I get less than a year out of a guy before he moves on, he helped the guys he worked with and the company out a ton.

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<p>I actually spent some time thinking of some fun events that could shape a 2017 database. Here we go.</p><p> </p><p>

- The most crucial thing to happen is that SWF hires the three sleeper agents to developmental contracts. From there, the agents are able to discover evidence linking Richard Eisen to illegal activities. Eisen is forced to sell his company and resigns in disgrace.</p><p> </p><p>

- Who picks up the company? Why, a coalition led by Eisen's dispatched lieutenants, Peter Michaels and Sam Keith (plus whatever other enemies you want to put in that group). With Keith's involvement, MAW becomes a child territory of SWF, which takes it out of the COTT but does give them a steady stream of young talent earmarked for bigger things. To replace MAW, the COTT invites Pittsburgh Steel Wrestling into the fold, and they accept.</p><p> </p><p>

- Meanwhile, BriCo is quickly realizing TCW was a poor investment. The company has lost several of its biggest stars to competitors (USPW, SWF, NOTBPW, and SOTBPW), and it's slid far behind USPW and SWF in the ratings. As such, BriCo is looking to sell...and with Richard Eisen desperate to get back into the wrestling business and exact revenge on SWF, they've found a suitor. Eisen buys TCW, brings the family with him, and declares war on SWF (the promotion he helped build). Some SWF wrestlers (mainly RIPW guys signed by Eisen personally) follow him to TCW, setting the stage for a youth movement.</p><p> </p><p>

- Over at USPW, the ship is sailing along peacefully until news of Eisen's fall and rise breaks. Desperate for positive buzz and a possible knockout punch to their rivals, USPW reluctantly enters negotiations with Marat Khoklov. He signs a lucrative, short-term deal, on the understanding that he's there as much to put younger guys over as he is for his own personal drawing power. A Nicky Champion/Marat Khoklov feud starts and begins to pack houses all around the country.</p><p> </p><p>

- NOTBPW and SOTBPW sign a working agreement and agree to host a tournament crowning the "King of North America." This includes the biggest stars from both companies, including Champagne Lover and Sean McFly. Additionally, Edd Stone has made up with his family, no longer has negative relationships with them, and makes no bones about planning to steal the show at this tournament.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="HRTVAndrew" data-cite="HRTVAndrew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I actually spent some time thinking of some fun events that could shape a 2017 database. Here we go.<p> </p><p> - The most crucial thing to happen is that SWF hires the three sleeper agents to developmental contracts. From there, the agents are able to discover evidence linking Richard Eisen to illegal activities. Eisen is forced to sell his company and resigns in disgrace.</p><p> </p><p> - Who picks up the company? Why, a coalition led by Eisen's dispatched lieutenants, Peter Michaels and Sam Keith (plus whatever other enemies you want to put in that group). With Keith's involvement, MAW becomes a child territory of SWF, which takes it out of the COTT but does give them a steady stream of young talent earmarked for bigger things. To replace MAW, the COTT invites Pittsburgh Steel Wrestling into the fold, and they accept.</p><p> </p><p> - Meanwhile, BriCo is quickly realizing TCW was a poor investment. The company has lost several of its biggest stars to competitors (USPW, SWF, NOTBPW, and SOTBPW), and it's slid far behind USPW and SWF in the ratings. As such, BriCo is looking to sell...and with Richard Eisen desperate to get back into the wrestling business and exact revenge on SWF, they've found a suitor. Eisen buys TCW, brings the family with him, and declares war on SWF (the promotion he helped build). Some SWF wrestlers (mainly RIPW guys signed by Eisen personally) follow him to TCW, setting the stage for a youth movement.</p><p> </p><p> - Over at USPW, the ship is sailing along peacefully until news of Eisen's fall and rise breaks. Desperate for positive buzz and a possible knockout punch to their rivals, USPW reluctantly enters negotiations with Marat Khoklov. He signs a lucrative, short-term deal, on the understanding that he's there as much to put younger guys over as he is for his own personal drawing power. A Nicky Champion/Marat Khoklov feud starts and begins to pack houses all around the country.</p><p> </p><p> - NOTBPW and SOTBPW sign a working agreement and agree to host a tournament crowning the "King of North America." This includes the biggest stars from both companies, including Champagne Lover and Sean McFly. Additionally, Edd Stone has made up with his family, no longer has negative relationships with them, and makes no bones about planning to steal the show at this tournament.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> These are actually awesome ideas. </p><p> </p><p> There is one problem though-too much things taking place in a very short time.</p>
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Valiant has got to be the champion in SWF. It's been way too long. I think SC 36 is logically where he goes over Remo to take the belt.

 

TCW is Cult. They have some of the loyalists on Written deals but the rest are on PPA deals. I assume it looks like TNA did a few years ago where the top of the card was pretty loyal but once their contracts were up, they were ready to go.

 

USPW is just continuing to be USPW. Still don't see them opening up a developmental territory. I believe in game that Reverie is expanding its coverage by 2017?

 

21CW gets a TV deal in the US driven by Cornell's popularity. Growth is fast thanks to Cornell and they're on the verge of being National with USPW and SWF in America

 

NOTBPW is Cult and drops their women's division. Most find their way to AAA which starts to run shows in Western Canada

 

SOTBPW starts expanding into the South West and Mid South

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