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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Great feedback!<p> </p><p> I knew this happened! I worked on several of these promotions on different computers and knew some of my stuff was lost when I would bring it back across and re-open lol. SMW fixed except for Carl Stiles as I have no background on him and no basis to add him to the mod. I've written him down as someone to explore.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I could be misremembering or completely wrong here, but I think Carl Stiles might be in Hive's COTT and/or War of the Worlds mods. I obviously can't speak for Hive, though. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Also, wasn't Vince Russo married by the time he debuted? (January 1994) Right now, he's set to having no relationship. Ditto for the brothers Hebner, Dave & Earl, as well. If I'm not mistaken, I believe they were married too.</p><p> </p><p> And I recently heard an old shoot that Sherri did back before she passed on talking about Shawn making a flight from a show to watch his then wife (before they divorced) graduate from college, and I also recall Shawn talking about his first wife in his first book and how they divorced some time in the early to mid 90s. So maybe set his relationship to Married?</p>
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<p>I know that the WCW World Tag Team Titles are the continuation of the NWA World Tag Team Titles, but being the Mid-Atlantic version, you should create a version of those titles exclusive to the alliance. Just an opinion.</p><p> </p><p>

So far, i have an idea of a WCW diary with this beauty of a mod, but i need to take a survey before i put it in action.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordofGustav" data-cite="LordofGustav" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know that the WCW World Tag Team Titles are the continuation of the NWA World Tag Team Titles, but being the Mid-Atlantic version, you should create a version of those titles exclusive to the alliance. Just an opinion.<p> </p><p> So far, i have an idea of a WCW diary with this beauty of a mod, but i need to take a survey before i put it in action.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Elaborate on what you mean?</p><p> </p><p> The NWA didn't recognize the title reigns of WCW as part of any NWA tag titles, not officially recognizing an NWA tag title until the mid 90s. </p><p> </p><p> I've thought about creating a defunct NWA Tag Title, NWA US Title, NWA TV title etc. that way Piper is a former NWA US Champion instead of WCW US Champion, but wasn't sure what road to go there.</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Release: Eye of the Storm V 1.1</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> I hate releasing updates this quickly, but there were some critical errors that needed to be addressed. I've updated the version to 1.1 </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Included in the update:</strong><p> -SMW Roster Fixes</p><p> -Marcus Laurinaitis stat fix</p><p> -FMW Roster Fixes</p><p> -Lex Luger starting absence</p><p> -Various Contract Fixes</p><p> -Konnan Mask History</p><p> -Game World Change (USA starting level)</p><p> -AWF cleanup (US and Puerto Rico)</p><p> -Marriage assignments</p><p> -Removed TWF</p><p> -Fixed starting production values</p><p> -Future promotion cleanup</p><p> -Added various missing workers</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Main post updated.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Elaborate on what you mean?<p> </p><p> The NWA didn't recognize the title reigns of WCW as part of any NWA tag titles, not officially recognizing an NWA tag title until the mid 90s. </p><p> </p><p> I've thought about creating a defunct NWA Tag Title, NWA US Title, NWA TV title etc. that way Piper is a former NWA US Champion instead of WCW US Champion, but wasn't sure what road to go there.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yep, and along with that in the Great American Bash 1992, there was a tournament to crown new NWA World Tag Team Champions, ultimately won by Terry Gordy and Steve Williams. Therefore, those were new brand NWA World Tag Team titles, and should start inactive as an alliance title and with no lineage.</p><p> </p><p> Anyway, i'm now suffering with a huge indecision... who i'll take on WWF and WCW? ECW or SMW? Extreme or Tradition?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordofGustav" data-cite="LordofGustav" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yep, and along with that in the Great American Bash 1992, there was a tournament to crown new NWA World Tag Team Champions, ultimately won by Terry Gordy and Steve Williams. Therefore, those were new brand NWA World Tag Team titles, and should start inactive as an alliance title and with no lineage.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Gotcha. Yeah I could add that. The AI likely won't keep them empty that long but still better to have them than not I guess.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I didn't know if you read one of my previous posts, but Hayabusa should be in a open contract with FMW, as he's unemployed.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes, added. 1.1 has everything mentioned in this thread thus far except the NWA tag titles.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyway, i'm now suffering with a huge indecision... who i'll take on WWF and WCW? ECW or SMW? Extreme or Tradition?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I hope someone does a committed diary with SMW.</p>
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<p>may I ask whats the point of the 1991 narratives? is this so you could in theory start in 91 and let it play out from there?</p><p> </p><p>

Edit: realise that's a dumb idea as rosters woud be completely different in 91 to 92 so am now just curious as to why the 91 narratives....just nosey :-)</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The_Monk" data-cite="The_Monk" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>may I ask whats the point of the 1991 narratives? is this so you could in theory start in 91 and let it play out from there?<p> </p><p> Edit: realise that's a dumb idea as rosters woud be completely different in 91 to 92 so am now just curious as to why the 91 narratives....just nosey :-)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's built off of my 1991 mod so they are just legacy files.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I hope someone does a committed diary with SMW.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I plan to on EWB. I'm not sure if I'll post it over here or not as the formatting is much different. That's why I was quick to jump with the SMW info as I've been re-watching it to get a bit of a feel for it.</p><p> </p><p> WWF was going to be my original diary when this came out just because there is so much going on that would be fun, but SMW is a brand new Southern Style slate.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Forky" data-cite="Forky" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I plan to on EWB. I'm not sure if I'll post it over here or not as the formatting is much different. That's why I was quick to jump with the SMW info as I've been re-watching it to get a bit of a feel for it.<p> </p><p> WWF was going to be my original diary when this came out just because there is so much going on that would be fun, but SMW is a brand new Southern Style slate.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I hope to see the day how you turn SMW from regional to Cult!</p>
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<p>Excellent work on this! Just a few things that picked up playing with WCW and other little things I noticed.</p><p> </p><p>

Jack Victory, Rip Morgan, Tim Horner, Jim Clontz, Pez Whatley, The Juicer and The Minotaur should all be gone as they left in early 1991.</p><p> </p><p>

Joey Maggs and Mike Kyle was frequently used as an enhancement talent during this time, so they should have open contracts.</p><p> </p><p>

Bobby Eaton's Televison Title history is missing. He beat Arn Anderson in May 19th and lost it to Austin on June 3rd.</p><p> </p><p>

Michael Hayes and Jimmy Garvin were faces at the beginning of the year and were doing a rock star gimmick leading into the Clash in January. </p><p> </p><p>

Art Barr was competing in CMLL under a written contract in late 91/early 92 as American Love Machine (was still wearing the mask at this time)</p><p> </p><p>

Bruce Prichard/Brother Love was released from WWF in May of 1991. He was, however, in GWF as an announcer and manager. </p><p> </p><p>

Once again, nothing but excellence on this. I look forward to playing every second that I can.</p>

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Excellent work on this! Just a few things that picked up playing with WCW and other little things I noticed.

 

Jack Victory, Rip Morgan, Tim Horner, Jim Clontz, Pez Whatley, The Juicer and The Minotaur should all be gone as they left in early 1991.

 

Joey Maggs and Mike Kyle was frequently used as an enhancement talent during this time, so they should have open contracts.

 

Bobby Eaton's Televison Title history is missing. He beat Arn Anderson in May 19th and lost it to Austin on June 3rd.

 

Michael Hayes and Jimmy Garvin were faces at the beginning of the year and were doing a rock star gimmick leading into the Clash in January.

 

Art Barr was competing in CMLL under a written contract in late 91/early 92 as American Love Machine (was still wearing the mask at this time)

 

Bruce Prichard/Brother Love was released from WWF in May of 1991. He was, however, in GWF as an announcer and manager.

 

Once again, nothing but excellence on this. I look forward to playing every second that I can.

 

Sam Houston was long gone from WWF, as well.

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Was there a reason the Supernatural gimmick was set as "Gimmicky"? I know technically, on paper, it probably should be. But I think it's safe to say that the Undertaker made it work to the point to where even some of the most hardcore of fans forgot that what they were watching could be considered farcical. Reason I bring it up is because, & someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, I believe workers with Gimmicky gimmicks can lose overness if they are overexposed in lengthy matches and/or angles. Maybe set it to be a Unique gimmick?
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Looks good, just chiming in with some obscure feedback ...

 

 

FMW

 

Mr. Gannosuke should be in FMW

J Taro didn't debut as an announcer until the late 90s I think, but if you are using him as a workaround then that's fair I guess.

 

W*ING

Mitsuteru Tokuda is missing from the database and should be with W*ING (feel free to swipe him from my mod).

 

Windy City

 

The Mike Samson in Windy City is not the same guy as in SSW and IWCCW. He's not the Billion Dollar Babies guy but a jacked up Chicago guy.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Was there a reason the Supernatural gimmick was set as "Gimmicky"? I know technically, on paper, it probably should be. But I think it's safe to say that the Undertaker made it work to the point to where even some of the most hardcore of fans forgot that what they were watching could be considered farcical. Reason I bring it up is because, & someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, I believe workers with Gimmicky gimmicks can lose overness if they are overexposed in lengthy matches and/or angles. Maybe set it to be a Unique gimmick?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The undertaker was pretty protected for most of his career when he was really supernatural. Most matches were short, he was rarely in the title picture for xtended periods, they were very protective of who he would lose to, etc. his matches didn't get longer until he essentially became a badass and dropped most of the gimmick stuff.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The undertaker was pretty protected for most of his career when he was really supernatural. Most matches were short, he was rarely in the title picture for xtended periods, they were very protective of who he would lose to, etc. his matches didn't get longer until he essentially became a badass and dropped most of the gimmick stuff.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fair enough explanation for me, and it does make sense from that perspective. It does make it more understandable why he wasn't working with main event talent more often till about '96. Thank you, sir!</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: BTW, did you happen to see my PM about the Terry Garvin situation? Long story short, you have the Texas worker named Terry Garvin who would later be known as Terry Simms seeing as that he had a GWF contract, but his home base was set as Quebec instead of Mid South. Not sure if you were intending to put the other Terry Garvin who worked as a road agent for the WWF and was caught up in that infamous sex scandal of '92, but just throwing this out there in case you were.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="scotland_underwood" data-cite="scotland_underwood" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Excellent work on this! Just a few things that picked up playing with WCW and other little things I noticed.<p> </p><p> Jack Victory, Rip Morgan, Tim Horner, Jim Clontz, Pez Whatley, The Juicer and The Minotaur should all be gone as they left in early 1991.</p><p> </p><p> Joey Maggs and Mike Kyle was frequently used as an enhancement talent during this time, so they should have open contracts.</p><p> </p><p> Bobby Eaton's Televison Title history is missing. He beat Arn Anderson in May 19th and lost it to Austin on June 3rd.</p><p> </p><p> Michael Hayes and Jimmy Garvin were faces at the beginning of the year and were doing a rock star gimmick leading into the Clash in January. </p><p> </p><p> Art Barr was competing in CMLL under a written contract in late 91/early 92 as American Love Machine (was still wearing the mask at this time)</p><p> </p><p> Bruce Prichard/Brother Love was released from WWF in May of 1991. He was, however, in GWF as an announcer and manager. </p><p> </p><p> Once again, nothing but excellence on this. I look forward to playing every second that I can.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> All fixed except the Freebirds. Are you sure they were faces? They were working heel at Clash of the Champions at the end of January. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Liger!Liger!" data-cite="Liger!Liger!" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Kazuo Sakurada and Kendo Nagasaki are the same guy(on the mod).They have the same picture, I think it's a duplicate</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oops. Fixed</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="YoungNoble" data-cite="YoungNoble" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sam Houston was long gone from WWF, as well.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fixed</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BurningHamster" data-cite="BurningHamster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Looks good, just chiming in with some obscure feedback ...<p> </p><p> </p><p> FMW </p><p> </p><p> Mr. Gannosuke should be in FMW</p><p> J Taro didn't debut as an announcer until the late 90s I think, but if you are using him as a workaround then that's fair I guess.</p><p> </p><p> W*ING</p><p> Mitsuteru Tokuda is missing from the database and should be with W*ING (feel free to swipe him from my mod).</p><p> </p><p> Windy City</p><p> </p><p> The Mike Samson in Windy City is not the same guy as in SSW and IWCCW. He's not the Billion Dollar Babies guy but a jacked up Chicago guy.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Obscure feedback is the BEST feedback. Fixed!</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> EDIT: BTW, did you happen to see my PM about the Terry Garvin situation? Long story short, you have the Texas worker named Terry Garvin who would later be known as Terry Simms seeing as that he had a GWF contract, but his home base was set as Quebec instead of Mid South. Not sure if you were intending to put the other Terry Garvin who worked as a road agent for the WWF and was caught up in that infamous sex scandal of '92, but just throwing this out there in case you were.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fixed</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="kp86" data-cite="kp86" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Loving the mod as well, so many thanks for this. However, one tiny correction in WCW would be Harley Race, who currently can't be pushed as a manager, because his role is set to exclusively in-ring.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fixed!</p>
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<p>BTW, let me say that I'm looking forward to starting up a save to enjoy the new cuts you have made for the nGo picture pack! <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I'm leaning towards the WWF, so what would you recommend for running their TV if I wanted to keep it realistic to the time period but still wanted to keep from annoying the fans and decreasing popularity? I debated using Prime Time as my A show since it's 2 hours and Superstars as the B show, but Superstars & Challenge is where most of the angles were advanced. Not to mention that without Challenge, there's no infamous Barber Shop segment to break up the Rockers with! <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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