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<p>Updated Shortlist:</p><p> </p><p>

Sunny</p><p>

Kimberly Page</p><p>

Dutch Mantell</p><p>

Michael Cole</p><p>

Sylvester Stallone</p><p>

Terry Funk</p><p>

Ray Traylor</p><p>

Mark Henry</p><p>

Brian Christopher</p><p>

Scott Taylor</p><p>

Rikishi</p><p>

Terri Runnels</p><p>

Jacqueline</p><p>

Hardcore Holly</p><p>

Bill Demott</p>

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<p>OK, folks, I'm off to bed. Since I'll likely miss my next two turns, here's my shortlist.</p><p> </p><p>

Terry Funk</p><p>

Jake Roberts</p><p>

Luna Vachon</p><p>

Jacqueline Moore</p><p>

Madusa Micelli</p><p>

Rick Martel</p><p>

Savio Vega</p><p>

Jim Neidhart</p><p>

Manami Toyota</p><p>

Dave Taylor</p>

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<p>I'm off to bed for tonight, here is my shortlist:</p><p>

1) Scott Taylor</p><p>

2) Brian Christopher</p><p>

3) Charles Robinson</p><p>

4) TV Deal With TNT (NAWU Battleground, 1 Hour 30 Minutes, Prime Time, Thursdays)</p><p>

5) Justin Credible</p><p>

6) PPV Deal With Cablevision</p><p>

7) Jamie Noble</p><p>

8) Kaz Hayashi</p><p>

9) Steve Corino</p><p>

10) Rick Martel</p>

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<p>I have a suggestion to consider trying for a future draft.</p><p> </p><p>

I've watched the last couple with interest and what I've noticed is that it's a bit messy in execution. It can take so long to draft a round but a rash of picks can all come at once. What that tends to mean is that it's hard for anyone to commit themselves to making their picks in any sort of orderly way. They need to post lists when they go off to sleep or eat or have a life etc. Circumstances could mean that several rounds fly past whilst others could drag on for 10 hours if everybody took their full hour to respond. </p><p> </p><p>

The first round of the current draft took 51 minutes for the first 8 picks but the 2nd round finished a little over 4 1/2 hrs in. Round 4 was finished nearly 10 hrs after the start. Rnd 6 wasn't completed until just after 24 hrs in (midway through rnd 9s picks when someone who was being skipped caught up their picks). Rnd 9 finished just over 26hrs in an rnd 10 29hrs in. rnd 11 actually didn't finish till 50 hrs in when someone caught up a bunch of picks they missed whislt asleep whilst everyone else was in rnd 16. Rnd 16 finished 52hrs in. Rnd 17 finished 56hrs in. Rnd 18 nearly 62hrs in. It's part way through 19 as I type this. It's got to be a bit of a pain in the butt to keep checking in every few hours for 2 1/2 days and it still not be half way through.</p><p> </p><p>

Instead of having an open draft like the ones I've seen have a draft window style draft conducted somewhat like the NFL's or online drafting games like Yahoo's. So you set the draft time a few days out with a window of time of about 4 or 5 hrs and with a clock time of 10 minutes max. That way whomever is drafting knows the timeframe the draft is occurring in and can organise themselves accordingly. You then run that draft over say 3 days. So say 7pm EST US to 12 Friday, Sat, Sunday. If everyone took their full 10 minutes you'd finish 3 rnds in a block but realistically you would probably finish a lot more because people would know exactly when the draft was happening and so wouldn't have to keep checking back in every few hours to see if it was getting close to their pick. After the first day they then have time to look at what has happened and work out their strategy for the next days picks. That method better reflects the way real world drafts occur and also makes it less chaotic. It does make the actual drafting period a lot more frantic an you have a lot less time to adjust you plans when people you want go off the board but that in itself is a challenge. There's always a chance that life intervenes or your internet goes down during the draft window and you miss picks but if that's the case you make those in the time between the drafts (it's unlikely that out of 10 people too many would commit to a time windowed raft and then not be available in that time window). If all 10 people were still there neart the end of a draft window and felt like extending it out longer to make more picks they could decide that at the time just by letting people know during any pick they were making in the last hour of the window - once someone says time for a break you finish the Rnd and break.</p><p> </p><p>

Figured I'd make the suggestion because the current model just seems a bit cumbersome and I cant imagine it's all that fun to keep checking back in over that length of time.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="southside_hitmen" data-cite="southside_hitmen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43716" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I like the thought alpha, but I think the biggest problem is everyone is indifferent time zones. Not sure about this draft, but last one we had Us, Europe and Asia users so it makes it tough to find a time that works for all</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yep, this pretty much covers it. I have no problem with the pace of this draft, personally, and given the nature of this mod (which doesn't have as many high-quality workers as the CornellVerse, I think), I like that I've got some time to reset my big board every few rounds.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="southside_hitmen" data-cite="southside_hitmen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43716" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> <p> I like the thought alpha, but I think the biggest problem is everyone is indifferent time zones. Not sure about this draft, but last one we had Us, Europe and Asia users so it makes it tough to find a time that works for all.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Understood but surely the current draft has exactly the same problem for <strong>everyone</strong>. It's going 24hrs a day for everyone over what looks like is going to be 5+ days. Given some people work or have school or ... well a life ... it's almost certain that at some point in the draft it's going to be an incredibly inconvenient time for everyone in it. I cant imagine that a clearly defined time period could be more inconvenient then an endless slog.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="HRTVAndrew" data-cite="HRTVAndrew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43716" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yep, this pretty much covers it. I have no problem with the pace of this draft, personally, and given the nature of this mod (which doesn't have as many high-quality workers as the CornellVerse, I think), I like that I've got some time to reset my big board every few rounds.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Understood but inherently if you have defined drafting time blocks you have obvious large blocks of time to reset between them. Obviously you don't have as much time to react and adjust plans during the drafting time blocks themselves.</p><p> </p><p> Like I said it was just a few thoughts on how you might get round some of the obvious issues with the current system (not knowing how long between your picks, having to recheck regularly, people missing a few rounds in a row whilst they sleep, having to do lists for when you think you are off etc). If people prefer the current way that's fine, No matter what system you use there are always inherent plusses and minuses.</p>
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I would rather check in every few hours or so for a week than dedicate several large time chunks over a couple days. My only issue with the draft is public draft boards. I get why they are neccesary, but they remove the fog of war of a draft and make for emotionally complex decisions.
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<p><strong>Updated Shortlist</strong></p><p> </p><p>

1.Seiji Sakaguchi (road agent)</p><p>

2.TV Show Deal with Nippon TV - Late Evening</p><p>

3.Tour Highlights with NHK - Late Evening</p><p>

4.PPV Deal WOWOW - Late Evening</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="wshred13" data-cite="wshred13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43716" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would rather check in every few hours or so for a week than dedicate several large time chunks over a couple days. My only issue with the draft is public draft boards. I get why they are neccesary, but they remove the fog of war of a draft and make for emotionally complex decisions.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's part of the reason why I usually refrain from that and send my lists privately. In fact, without spoiling too much, there are certain names I deliberately left off my shortlist that I really want on my roster. It'd stink to lose out on them, sure, but there's an element of strategy there, too.</p>
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I would rather check in every few hours or so for a week than dedicate several large time chunks over a couple days. My only issue with the draft is public draft boards. I get why they are neccesary, but they remove the fog of war of a draft and make for emotionally complex decisions.

 

I agree on this. Last draft I had a pretty good gauge of who would be on overnight so it was less a problem, but being able to set some type of "blind" draft list (and also signify to the group if on auto-draft or not) would improve it. I feel like I had to justify my Perro Aguayo pick in particular as Rainmaker had put a list up with him on it.

 

I poked around at options online for draft hosting, but most have a per draft fee or can't do custom lists

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<p>I don't find checking in day after day, the drafting is the best part. I can see why we would want to do the quicker version you're referencing, if it was more important to play the mod when its completed, but the reason we do draft after draft is because the best part is actually drafting the rosters and seeing who you manage to snag here and who you get there. It dies down more for a slow burn as we get further because the workers are less and less important as less of your options become available. At the same time, we all care just as much because we are still rounding out our own rosters, at least the way I see it.</p><p> </p><p>

That's my opinion on the matter. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rainmaker" data-cite="Rainmaker" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43716" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Kijar NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I thought no one else noticed Homicide in the data so I was going to pick him late and form LAX. Dammit dude lol.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Lol sorry my man, though I really dig that idea. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> My list has been holding for the most part, as it was comprised of mostly sleeper picks. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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I'm planning on doing a diary about the fed I draft. Partly because the mishmosh of workers I'll end up with, while figuring to be strangely effective, was not my intention of drafting, and partly because, anytime you can imitate "The Amehican Dream, DUTHSTY RHODESTH," you have to do it (may he rest in peace!).
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