kito333 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 What is the best way to put my competition out of business? What helps me/hurts them? Running shows the same night? Stealing their best workers? What do you guys recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greylocke Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 <p>It depends on what position you and your competition are in. If you're in a Regional Battle with him, just putting on better shows than him every month hurts him. If your financial situation is much better than his, raise your Production levels so that he has to either do the same (which drains his money), or take penalty hits to his show grades for looking amateurish. If you're at National Battle with him, it's all about having the most popular workers with great Star Quality, so try to steal his biggest draws while making sure he doesn't do the same to you, and if you can manage it, snap up all the young prospects with great SQ so that he doesn't have the resources to build up new stars.</p><p> </p><p> If you're a good judge of how much he's willing to pay for workers, go into "fake" bidding wars for his workers, then pull out so that he ends up with an overpaid roster (although that may backfire if he decides to pull out first).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bison Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 <p>There are a few key objectives I go for that help take down a rival promotion. The overall goal being to get them to bleed money faster than they can make it. First I steal several of the most popular workers, but leave them a few stars, only after bidding them into ridiculous contracts that the other company has to continue to honor. </p><p> Then I will snatch up the top young prospects as well. This prevents them from building new stars and keep me from WCWing myself into a corner. </p><p> If I am able to declare war on them, I will and then I pepper in some dirty tactics for good measure. </p><p> This is by no means a quick death but I play the long game and eventually they either fall completely or are at least damaged enough that I can buy them out and disband them. </p><p> I'm sure others have their own methods but this has always worked for me.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 There is no quick way and no real direct way to really make life hell for them other than just stealing their workers so they aren't able to put on good enough shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenCycle Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 <p>Seriously, here's what to do....</p><p> </p><p> Exist. </p><p> </p><p> If you're a small company your workers will eventually become more over than their workers, so you'll just put on shows that they can't compete with. If you're a big company all you have to do is put on shows where you don't lose popularity, and your competition will just fall to Cult one day and you don't have to worry anymore. It's all very easy, and very lame.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BrokenCycle" data-cite="BrokenCycle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44110" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Seriously, here's what to do....<p> </p><p> Exist. </p><p> </p><p> If you're a small company your workers will eventually become more over than their workers, so you'll just put on shows that they can't compete with.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you are a small company I agree with this. The AI companies don't start out with very good rosters compared to the workers you can get very easily that are usually so much better. The AI isn't smart enough if it is a smaller company to try to bid higher to get these much better talents.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44110" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you're a big company all you have to do is put on shows where you don't lose popularity, and your competition will just fall to Cult one day and you don't have to worry anymore. It's all very easy, and very lame.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This I disagree with. The AI can definitely put on better shows than you. It is more likely they won't, but they can.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmall Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 <p>I'm playing a WWF save and of course we're at war with WCW.</p><p> WCW pays top dollar in our bidding wars, and often Vince "caps" me on what I can offer.</p><p> </p><p> Has anyone experienced whether or not WCW will finally bleed cash?</p><p> When I see the sheer NUMBER of workers they have, and their payroll, I HAVE to believe the bottom will drop as some point??</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BrokenCycle" data-cite="BrokenCycle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44110" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Seriously, here's what to do....<p> </p><p> Exist. </p><p> </p><p> If you're a small company your workers will eventually become more over than their workers, so you'll just put on shows that they can't compete with. If you're a big company all you have to do is put on shows where you don't lose popularity, and your competition will just fall to Cult one day and you don't have to worry anymore. It's all very easy, and very lame.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Typically I raise the booking skill of the top companies and watch them thrive. I am about 14 months into my CGC game with NOTBPW, SWF, TCW, SOTBPW, USPW are all National and have never fell to Cult.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Defmall" data-cite="Defmall" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44110" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm playing a WWF save and of course we're at war with WCW.<p> WCW pays top dollar in our bidding wars, and often Vince "caps" me on what I can offer.</p><p> </p><p> Has anyone experienced whether or not WCW will finally bleed cash?</p><p> When I see the sheer NUMBER of workers they have, and their payroll, I HAVE to believe the bottom will drop as some point??</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The game can't replicate the things that caused wcw to lose money</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenCycle Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sabataged" data-cite="sabataged" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44110" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Typically I raise the booking skill of the top companies and watch them thrive. I am about 14 months into my CGC game with NOTBPW, SWF, TCW, SOTBPW, USPW are all National and have never fell to Cult.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Interesting. I'll have to check that out.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmall Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 @justtxyank - I wouldnt think it could, but i WOULD expect that payroll expenses would exceed fixed costs, right? I'm asking if the AI suffers from that the same way a player would.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peria Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sabataged" data-cite="sabataged" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44110" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Typically I raise the booking skill of the top companies and watch them thrive. I am about 14 months into my CGC game with NOTBPW, SWF, TCW, SOTBPW, USPW are all National and have never fell to Cult.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You just raise their head bookers skill? That's how it is done? Because I am tired of seeing SWF scrape by with 58 year old world champions.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Peria" data-cite="Peria" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44110" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You just raise their head bookers skill? That's how it is done? Because I am tired of seeing SWF scrape by with 58 year old world champions.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Typically yes I raise the head bookers booking skill. Its not full proof by no means but it usually helps. Contract lengths have a lot to do with it too. If TCW's top talent are locked down for more than the first year it helps keep them away from cult</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Also make sure you have the most recent patch. Awhile back there was a patch awhile back that improved the AI booking. I notice shows all started to be in the 80's and 90s after taking that patch when the top companies often ran shows in the 70s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koholos Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Seriously, here's what to do.... Exist. If you're a small company your workers will eventually become more over than their workers, so you'll just put on shows that they can't compete with. If you're a big company all you have to do is put on shows where you don't lose popularity, and your competition will just fall to Cult one day and you don't have to worry anymore. It's all very easy, and very lame. However, even if they fall to Cult, there's no guarantee they'll ever bleed dry. In my current game, SWF and USPW were at Cult for over a year, before finally regaining National (and they'll be Cult again before long, I'm sure, since my National Battle score is almost 4400), and they were still pulling in multiple millions a month. USPW, in particular, doubled their cash on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Koholos" data-cite="Koholos" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44110" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>However, even if they fall to Cult, there's no guarantee they'll ever bleed dry. In my current game, SWF and USPW were at Cult for over a year, before finally regaining National (and they'll be Cult again before long, I'm sure, since my National Battle score is almost 4400), and they were still pulling in multiple millions a month. USPW, in particular, doubled their cash on hand.</div></blockquote><img alt="giphy.gif" data-src="https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEduVLl0ly13mGsUg/giphy.gif" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Hire their top talent away from them...and if you can't, overbid for workers you have no intention of getting and then pull out of negotiations. One takes up away their ability to do put on good shows, the other increases their costs.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbkb9 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 <p>I just signed the Heavyweight champion from my competition (to whom I am at War with) to a P.P.A. deal. I'm his new top priority, but I thought signing him at all would mean he would have to leave the company. Is that no longer the case, or does it have to be an exclusive deal? I didn't want him to lose his other P.P.A. deals, just the company I was at war with.</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: Nevermind. He left!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Defmall" data-cite="Defmall" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44110" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm playing a WWF save and of course we're at war with WCW.<p> WCW pays top dollar in our bidding wars, and often Vince "caps" me on what I can offer.</p><p> </p><p> Has anyone experienced whether or not WCW will finally bleed cash?</p><p> When I see the sheer NUMBER of workers they have, and their payroll, I HAVE to believe the bottom will drop as some point??</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This has happened to me in previous games and eventually it hurts them/this is now happening in my current game.</p><p> </p><p> Here is what I do</p><p> </p><p> 1. Sign all YOUNG talent to FIVE YEAR DEALS (they will request fair raises so I don't feel bad singing them to longer deals</p><p> </p><p> 2. Once they have a year left, start using them to build your next set of generation talent </p><p> </p><p> 3. Bidding War. WCW will typically win the bidding war, but make sure you stay competitive and up pay as high as possible (this is where you have to be careful because sometimes WCW will pull out</p><p> </p><p> 4. Once WCW Wins, job the talent to your future or really whom ever you want</p><p> </p><p> 5. Put on better shows </p><p> </p><p> 6. Time</p><p> </p><p> 7. Buy them out</p><p> </p><p> This is not an easy process or a quick process. I also agree with raising the booking skill of WCW or other competition. Makes the game more interesting. </p><p> </p><p> I also sometimes release my top talent to let them go to WCW or another promotion in order to give myself a challenge.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 <p>I'm playing WWF in a 1994 COTT save game and I'm on the edge of moving to International size, but I'm hesitant to do so because I'm constantly losing national battles and I'm 300 points behind WCW. </p><p> </p><p> Would it be a smart move to go International though? I've never been there, so I'm not sure what the benefits/restrictions at this size are.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmall Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 @Zero - MUCH respect! Thanks for the share! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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