The Monday Night War '95 - Change the Channel

to4sty · September 26, 2018

Great PPV, I was 50/50 on Razor walking out with the belt, glad he did, hopefully he stays clean/sober for you

WCW Nitro:

Hulk Hogan vs. The Shark

Comments:

The American Males vs. Bunkhouse Buck and Dick Slater

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Sting & Johnny B. Badd vs Brian Pillman and Big Bubba Rogers

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Quote:

WWF Monday Night Raw:

Savio Vega and Marty Jannetty vs. Dean Douglas and Bob Backlund

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The Undertaker vs. Skip

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Razor Ramon, Shawn Michaels and Ahmed Johnson vs. Camp Cornette

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BONUS QUESTION:

Who put the hit on Diesel?: Razor?

Warhawk8492 · September 26, 2018

Hulk Hogan vs. The Shark

Comments: Creative control, brother!

The American Males vs. Bunkhouse Buck and Dick Slater

Comments: My upset pick

Sting & Johnny B. Badd vs Brian Pillman and Big Bubba Rogers

Comments: Sting picks up the win for his team

Savio Vega and Marty Jannetty vs. Dean Douglas and Bob Backlund

Comments: Hopefully Douglas does not end up on the bad side of the clique

The Undertaker vs. Skip

Comments: Squash

Razor Ramon, Shawn Michaels and Ahmed Johnson vs. Camp Cornette

Comments: New champ picks up a win

BONUS QUESTION:

Who put the hit on Diesel?: Razor Ramon

Nobby_McDonald · September 27, 2018

Thanks Jack. I'm a winner. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

Hulk Hogan vs. The Shark

Comments:

The American Males vs. Bunkhouse Buck and Dick Slater

Comments:

Sting & Johnny B. Badd vs Brian Pillman and Big Bubba Rogers

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Quote:

WWF Monday Night Raw:

Savio Vega and Marty Jannetty vs. Dean Douglas and Bob Backlund

Comments:

The Undertaker vs. Skip

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Razor Ramon, Shawn Michaels and Ahmed Johnson vs. Camp Cornette

Comments:

BONUS QUESTION:

Who put the hit on Diesel?: Don't know what "put the hit on" means but Razor seems a popular choice so I'll go with that too.

Jaysin · September 27, 2018

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Nobby_McDonald" data-cite="Nobby_McDonald" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thanks Jack. I'm a winner. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Hulk Hogan vs. The Shark Comments: The American Males vs. Bunkhouse Buck and Dick Slater Comments: Sting & Johnny B. Badd vs Brian Pillman and Big Bubba Rogers Comments: Quote: WWF Monday Night Raw: Savio Vega and Marty Jannetty vs. Dean Douglas and Bob Backlund Comments: The Undertaker vs. Skip Comments: Razor Ramon, Shawn Michaels and Ahmed Johnson vs. Camp Cornette Comments: BONUS QUESTION: Who put the hit on Diesel?: Don't know what "put the hit on" means but Razor seems a popular choice so I'll go with that too.</div></blockquote> When you put a hit on someone it means you're saying you'll pay money to whoever takes said person out.

crackerjack · September 30, 2018

Week 4, October 1995

Nitro results in Blue, Raw Results in Red

Results, Matches, Angles

Q1: IT’S ANOTHER EDITION of the best show on Monday nights (according to the announce team), as tonight’s rundown is interrupted by the music of HULK HOGAN! He’s dressed to compete! As he makes his grand entrance, ERIC BISCHOFF hypes the man of the real champ that everyone wants to see! THE SHARK follows soon after, and our opening bout is on! - B- l Match 1: In a good match, Hulk Hogan defeated The Shark in 9:29 by pinfall with a Leg Drop. The Hulkster spends the first few minutes of the match, riling up the fans, but isn’t he usual energetic self (maybe not too pleased about being the curtain jerker). This is your standard Hogan monster match, with Hulk withstanding the blows of the powerful Shark to deliver a leg drop for the win. - B- l MEAN GENE HITS THE RING post match to get a word with the WCW World Heavyweight Champion! Gene first presses Hulk about the actions of MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE, but the Hulkster doesn’t know what’s up with Macho, and he can’t care right now! He’s gotta be focused on The Giant! Hulk sends a message to his challenger: with the power of the Hulkamania at his side, he shows no fear! TASKMASTER leads THE GIANT out, and the pair staredown with Hogan, before Giant bursts into a evil laugh! Buy the PPV! - A

Q1: WWF MONDAY NIGHT RAW starts off with VINCE MCMAHON in the ring, introducing the new WWF World Heavyweight Champion, RAZOR RAMON! “The Bad Guy” takes a moment to reflect on his win, saying that he had his fair share of doubters, including himself at points, but he’s the champ now, chico! He’s number one, so if you want to piece of him, don’t sing it, bring it, chico! CAMP CORNETTE charges the ring after this, with Jim Cornette throwing accusations at Razor! Cornette says that he knows that Razor paid off TED DIBIASE to take out DIESEL before the main event, and he doesn’t have the heart of a champion! Razor is ready to throw down, belt on the line, but GORILLA MONSOON appears! Nobody is getting a title shot tonight until he’s got the opportunity to investigate! They can have a six man tag team main event, and Razor can find two partners, but that’s it! His decision is final! - B+ l MATCH 1: In a bout that had decent wrestling but didn't have much heat, Marty Jannetty & Savio Vega defeated Dean Douglas and Bob Backlund in 5:47 when Savio Vega defeated Bob Backlund by pinfall. The upset of the century! Savio and Marty finally get a shot to display their incredible tag chemistry on the big stage, while Dean and Bob’s relationship continues to crumble. They make the most of this opportunity (despite Savio not living up to the limelight), as a dropkick from Marty Jannetty stuns Bob Backlund enough for Savio to nail a spinning leg kick in surprisingly quick match! - C+

Q2: TONY SCHIAVONE STANDS BACKSTAGE with a happy EDDIE GUERRERO who says he’s got two reasons to be happy. 1: he just saw Hulk Hogan bring it to The Shark, and he knows he’s gonna take it to The Giant, and 2: he’s formed a team to take on 3 of the DUNGEON OF DOOM at Havoc, as he introduces two men from offscreen: CHAVO AND HECTOR GUERRERO! He’s always happy to have family around, and they’ll prove to the Dungeon what it means to be a Guerrero! - D+ l Match 2: In a bout that had sub-par wrestling and little heat, The American Males defeated Bunkhouse Buck & Dick Slater in 7:13 when Marcus Bagwell defeated Dick Slater by pinfall with a Yellow Jacket Suplex. THE AMERICAN MALES face their final test before they head to Halloween Havoc to get another shot at the tag team champions HARLEM HEAT! With Parker at ringside trying to swing the match in the favor of his boys, the Males out wrestle his clients to get some more momentum heading to Havoc. MONGO thinks these boys look ready to win the gold! - C

Q2: SPLIT SCREEN BABY! With his bruisers hanging out behind him, Ted is all smiles, enjoying being the man of the hour - our public enemy number one - as VINCE grills him to find out some answers. Ted laughs off revealing where he got the money, who paid him off, and why he did it, before Gorilla enters the room, pointing at Ted - “you, my office, now!” - B l TRANSITIONING FROM THAT TENSE ENCOUNTER, Colosseum Video supplied us with stills of the casket match between UNDERTAKER and KING MABEL. King mourns over the loss of a royal in the WWF, before the gong hits! Taker is in action! - B

Q3: POST MATCH, HARLEM HEAT join their challengers in the ring, with Booker T showing a little respect to the young tag team - the Heat know that they won’t be an easy challenge! But the Heat know that they’re better, and they’ll prove it when everyone is barred from ringside on Sunday! May the better team win! - C+ l MEAN GENE IS BACK IN THE RING and introduces his guest -“MACHO MAN” RANDY SAVAGE! Gene asks Macho about his actions last week, and Macho explains it as “Paranoia, Paranoia, yeah!”. Hulk knows that Macho can beat him for the gold, and won’t let him challenge, and Lex knows that Macho is the man in WCW, and can’t stop riding off his coatails, dig it! Macho can keep going, but his point is almost proven, as LEX LUGER walks out! Lex says that ever since he returned to WCW, Macho has doubted his ability to hang with the big boys! So why doesn’t he put up or shut up! Lex wants Macho Man at Havoc, and despite Macho no longer wanting to share the spotlight, Macho accepts! - B

Q3: Match 2: In a decent match, The Undertaker defeated Skip in 10:18 by pinfall with a Tombstone. While Undertaker was busy burying Mabel, Skip was embarrassed in the ring by AHMED JOHNSON at In Your House! Due to this, Skip has something extra to prove against the powerful Undertaker. These two received plenty of time to tell a story on this, with Skip using his intelligence and advice at ringside from SUNNY to try to take down Undertaker. But, Undertaker is just too much, nailing his signature moves en route to another victory. - B l COLOSSEUM VIDEO IS BACK The footage highlights Bret’a comeback, as he stared down King as Yankem submitted to the sharpshooter! King says that Bret’s win was only a fluke, and challenges him to a Survivor Series match! It’ll be the King’s Court vs Bret’s losers! - B-

Q4: MAIN EVENT: In a decent match, Big Bubba Rogers and Brian Pillman defeated Sting and Johnny B. Badd in 12:35 when Big Bubba Rogers defeated Johnny B. Badd by pinfall after a low blow. While this is still a solid main event, it’s more “break” then “make” for Johnny B. Badd, who served as the weak link on his team, was off his game, and displayed no chemistry with Sting. Maybe too soon for Nitro main events for him! It’s an even match, with both members get time to mix it up, until Pillman wore down Sting to build to the finish. Badd gets the hot tag, runs wild for a little bit, but a well placed low blow allows Big Bubba to make a big statement and pin Badd, just days before Havoc! - B- l STING CHARGES INTO THE RING to make sure that Big Bubba doesn’t do more damage to Badd, but he makes himself a sitting duck for an attack from Pillman! The Loose Cannon uses Sting’s US gold to lay out the champ, before raising the belt up himself! Cackling, Pillman mounts Sting to rapidly hits shot after shot on the champ, but he’s bailed out by… RIC FLAIR, ARN ANDERSON, and DEAN MALENKO! The Horsemen clear the ring from Pillman, who wisely realizes the odds and retreats. When Sting comes to, he can only see Flair, Arn and Dean hold up the horsemen hand signal. “Let’s make it happen Stinger!”, shouts Flair, as Nitro closes on a shot of a rightly confused Sting! - B+

Q4: In a bout that had good wrestling and a decent reaction from the crowd, Camp Cornette (Owen Hart, Yokozuna and The British Bulldog) drew with Ahmed Johnson, Shawn Michaels and Razor Ramon in 13:23 following a double count out. Electricity fills the air in this one, as the fans feel that Razor did a great job selecting his team, cheering loudly for the entrances of Ahmed Johnson and SHAWN MICHAELS. It’s an open match that sees every man get their spots in, highlighted by Ahmed Johnson trying to take it to Yokozuna, Bulldog working desperately to make up for his main event defeat on Saturday against Razor, and Owen and Shawn picking up their technical rivalry over the past few weeks. Eventually, New WWF Champion Razor Ramon nailed a Razor’s Edge on Owen, but his two count was interrupted by the remaining members of Camp Cornette. When the babyfaces ran in to back up Razor, the referee soon lost control of the match, as the trios brawled to no conclusive finish. - B l RAW IS CHAOS! Camp Cornette jaw and brawl with Ahmed and HBK in the ring, Razor keeps on the sleuthing Ted and SID, who have appeared at ringside, DIESEL limps from the back to get his hands on Million Dollar Man! As a hoard of road agents and security run out to save Raw from self destruction, an exasperated Gorilla Monsoon stand on the ramp, trying to maintain order! - A*

Grades: 71/C l 81/B

Ratings: 7.93 l 13.76

crackerjack · September 30, 2018

Hey, keep this quiet, ok? - it's the B-Show Round-up!

Mr. JL defeats Dean’s brother Joe Malenko in an athletic opener - C l The Rey Mysterio hype video airs - E+ l The Dungeon of Doom squash a trio of babyfaces - C l The Taskmaster promises destruction at Halloween Havoc for the Guerrero family - C- l Scott Norton has little trouble defeating Dave Sullivan - D+ l NITRO RECAP: The Horsemen save Sting, and leave him an invitation? - B+ l Arn Anderson and Dean Malenko defeat Steve and Scott Armstrong - C l Lanny Poffo, The Blue Bloods, Col. Parker and Kurasawa hype tonight’s main event - C l Alex Wright and Chris Kanyon team up to defeat the State Patrol - C- l NITRO RECAP: Hulk is ready for The Giant! - B l Johnny B. Badd defends the Television Championship against Maxx Muscle - C l Maxx Muscle loses, and DDP and The Diamond Doll walk out on him! - C l In a decent match, Road Warrior Hawk and The Nasty Boys drew with Kurasawa and The Blue Bloods in 9:51 following a double disqualification. - B-

Overall Grade: B-

WCW Main Event will air this Sunday, right before WCW Halloween Havoc!

Bam Bam Bigelow overpowers Sammy the Silk to get a victory to open the show - C+ l Post match, Bam Bam tells anyone who is looking for a Survivor Series teammate that he’s open for business! - C+ l JR interviews Sunny and Luna! Sunny makes excuses about running away at IYH4, and Luna challenges Alundra next week - D+ l The Million Dollar team of Kama and King Kong Bundy defeated Aldo Montaya & Barry Horowitz - D+ l RAW RECAP: Raw ends in chaos! Can Gorilla find out who did it? - B+ l JR interviews HOG, who introduces his brother Phineas I. Godwinn to the crowd - C l The Godwinns start on a good note by defeating PG-13 - C l We get stills of Goldust’s betrayal at IYH, and Vince says he’ll interview him next week on Raw! - C l In a decent match, Jeff Jarrett defeated Fatu in 7:51 by submission with a Figure Four Leglock. - C+ l Jerry Lawler mocks a beaten Fatu, leading to a 2 on 1 assault with Isaac Yankem… and Bret makes the save! - B

Overall Grade: C+

crackerjack · September 30, 2018

Good show with IYH! Quite a few surprised in there to me, especially how the main event played out. I didn't expect a change like that until a bigger show, like Survivor Series. I also am curious where you go in the coming months with Bret and Taker. Being faces, they aren't really in a good place to challenge for the strap, but there isn't anything else you can really send them. Except for Bret, who at this point I look to be fighting Lawler until Mania.

While Survivor Series might have been a better time for a big change, I have all three men booked for Survivor Series tag team matches at this point, so, as apposed to waiting until December, why not pull the trigger now?

The Bret and Taker conundrum is a tough problem I’m having with the WWF, which is too babyface heavy right now (much like WCW). I don’t want to rapidly turn some folks heel, so you’re right in saying that Lawler will continue to serve as a top heel moving forward.

Though I will hint that there are a few more heels incoming that should be able to make some noise…

Vega/Marty

Kijar’s love of either Savio Vega and/or Marty Jannetty scores him the upset pick! If it’s both men, I’d say we have to let “To Kijar, With Love” carrying on in an alternate universe!

Dean and Bob - After their loss at IYH, they either get a win over the White Meat Babyface Squad or they split.

Savio Vega and Marty Jannetty vs. Dean Douglas and Bob Backlund
Comments: Hopefully Douglas does not end up on the bad side of the clique

I think Dean’s gotten a bad roll, since his in ring performances haven’t been too impressive, and he’s not really gaining traction right now. I think the Dean gimmick stinks, but I’ve used him in past 1995 saves to success. Maybe he’ll have to try another company soon….

Bonus: So Camp Cornette feel like they'd be too easy a target for this. It's almost gotta be someone outside the box. Even to say it was Razor or Shawn feels too simple. I could almost believe it being Hunter Heast Helmsley, because he would have the money to buy the services of Dibiase and company, but instead I'm gonna call this out of left field and say Vince McMahon put out the hit, revealing him as the evil Mr. McMahon, with his reasoning being that Diesel was such a lousy champ that he needed to ensure someone else got the belt.

No comment on whether this prediction is actually right or wrong, but I will say that in-game, Diesel was (and still is) a good figurehead.

When you put a hit on someone it means you're saying you'll pay money to whoever takes said person out.

Jaysin’s got it! Sorry for not being exactly clear about it nobby! Basicially, Ted saying “it’s just business” implied that his boys were getting a payoff for taking out Big Daddy Cool.

And Jaysin, welcome! I have no clue if the quote was for your predicitions as well, but heck, take the points anyways.

Speaking of points...

Blodyxe(+4): 20

To4sty(+4): 19

Beejus(+4), kijar(+5): 17

Thebigbad1013: 15

Nobby (+3): 14

Warhawk (+2): 11

Jaded: 8

123Kidd, Destiny: 4

Jaysin(+3): 3

Blodyxe keeps the lead! Just a reminder that it's the first to 50 points for a victory, and there's 14 points on the line here! Let's see that card!

WCW Halloween Havoc 1995:

For the WCW World Heavyweight Championship:
Hulk Hogan© vs. The Giant (with The Taskmaster)
Comments:

For the WCW United States Championship:
Sting© vs “The Loose Cannon” Brian Pillman
Comments:

The Nasty Boys vs. The Blue Bloods (with Lanny Poffo)
Comments:

Los Guerreros (Eddie, Chavo & Hector) vs The Dungeon of Doom (The Shark, Meng, Hugh Morris)
Comments:

Lex Luger vs. “Macho Man” Randy Savage
Comments:

Falls Count Anywhere
Alex Wright vs Sabu
Comments:

For the WCW Television Championship:
Johnny B. Badd © vs. Big Bubba Rogers
Comments:

For the WCW World Tag Team Championships:
No one allowed at ringside
Harlem Heat© vs. The American Males
Comments:

Road Warrior Hawk vs. Kurasawa
Comments:

Bonus Questions:
Match of the Night?:
How many titles change hands?:
Rey Mysterio will make his debut tonight, who will interrupt him?:
Who takes the fall in the six man tag match?:
Where in the arena will the deciding fall of the Sabu vs Alex Wright occur?:

Kijar · September 30, 2018

Twas my love for Marty Jannetty. Vega is a decent talent, but I just really go for the "forgettable" guy in the tag team more often than not. Aka The Jannetty instead of the Michaels. Glad it paid off.

For the WCW World Heavyweight Championship:

Hulk Hogan© vs. The Giant (with The Taskmaster)

Comments:

For the WCW United States Championship:

Sting© vs “The Loose Cannon” Brian Pillman

Comments:

The Nasty Boys vs. The Blue Bloods (with Lanny Poffo)

Comments:

Los Guerreros (Eddie, Chavo & Hector) vs The Dungeon of Doom (The Shark, Meng, Hugh Morris)

Comments:

Lex Luger vs. “Macho Man” Randy Savage

Comments:

Falls Count Anywhere

Alex Wright vs Sabu

Comments:

For the WCW Television Championship:

Johnny B. Badd © vs. Big Bubba Rogers

Comments:

For the WCW World Tag Team Championships:

No one allowed at ringside

Harlem Heat© vs. The American Males

Comments:

Road Warrior Hawk vs. Kurasawa

Comments:

Bonus Questions:

Match of the Night?: Hogan/Giant

How many titles change hands?: 1

Rey Mysterio will make his debut tonight, who will interrupt him?: Los Guerreros

Who takes the fall in the six man tag match?: Morris

Where in the arena will the deciding fall of the Sabu vs Alex Wright occur?: The entrance ramp

Beejus · September 30, 2018

Halloween Havoc time! As bad a show as this is in hindsight, when I was 11 years old I used to love the real life version and watched it repeatedly.

Hulk Hogan - While I don't think you'll be going with the whole "Jimmy Hart put a clause in the contract that Giant gets the title if Hogan is DQ'd" I do think that there will be a disqualification here. Giant is too much of a huge deal in WCW that he shouldn't be lining up to take the big bodyslam and leg drop for the pin here.

Brian Pillman - "Make it happen Sting" is going to be code for making Pillman the new champ at the hands of the new fourth Horseman, I can feel it.

Blue Bloods

Dungeon of Doom - The only way they lose this one I feel is if you are on your way out of the DoD story entirely. Unless you want Sullivan to close the book on them tomorrow on Nitro, they should probably go over. It's one thing for these guys to lose to a three man team of Hogan, Sting, Savage, or Luger; the Guerreros should be taken out after a spirited battle.

No Contest - Luger and Savage are too big for one to truly go over the other in their first meeting. Dungeon interference likely.

Sabu

Big Bubba Rogers - I think Bubba would make a great TV champ, you can build him as a very strong heel running the division.

Harlem Heat - No distractions makes the Heat easily go over.

Hawk - Hawk takes this one and then bides his time until you can sign up Animal.

MOTN: Sting vs. Pillman

Titles: 1

Rey: Konnan

Fall: Chavo

Arena: Concession stand

Blodyxe · September 30, 2018

For the WCW World Heavyweight Championship:

Hulk Hogan© vs. The Giant (with The Taskmaster)

Comments: No matter how, but Hogan keeps it

For the WCW United States Championship:

Sting© vs “The Loose Cannon” Brian Pillman

Comments: Swerve from Horsemen

The Nasty Boys vs. The Blue Bloods (with Lanny Poffo)

Comments: Blue Bloods have talent

Los Guerreros (Eddie, Chavo & Hector) vs The Dungeon of Doom (The Shark, Meng, Hugh Morris)

Comments: Chavo and Hector are not popular enough to validate a victory

Lex Luger vs. “Macho Man” Randy Savage

Comments: Macho loses by count out

Falls Count Anywhere

Alex Wright vs Sabu

Comments: Alex Wright is often accused of being bland, and Sabu is anything BUT bland, so he goes over after a crazy spot

For the WCW Television Championship:

Johnny B. Badd © vs. Big Bubba Rogers

Comments: I'm pulling for the challenger

For the WCW World Tag Team Championships:

No one allowed at ringside

Harlem Heat© vs. The American Males

Comments: Riggs eats the pinfall I hope.

Road Warrior Hawk vs. Kurasawa

Comments: American bias from WCW

Bonus Questions:

Match of the Night?: Hogan/Giant because of Hulkster's popularity

How many titles change hands?: 2

Rey Mysterio will make his debut tonight, who will interrupt him?: Random shout - Disco Inferno

Who takes the fall in the six man tag match?: Chavo cause he must be the youngest in the match

Where in the arena will the deciding fall of the Sabu vs Alex Wright occur?: Near the announce table?

Nobby_McDonald · October 1, 2018

For the WCW World Heavyweight Championship:

Hulk Hogan© vs. The Giant (with The Taskmaster)

Comments:

For the WCW United States Championship:

Sting© vs “The Loose Cannon” Brian Pillman

Comments:

The Nasty Boys vs. The Blue Bloods (with Lanny Poffo)

Comments:

Los Guerreros (Eddie, Chavo & Hector) vs The Dungeon of Doom (The Shark, Meng, Hugh Morris)

Comments:

Lex Luger vs. “Macho Man” Randy Savage

Comments:

Falls Count Anywhere

Alex Wright vs Sabu

Comments:

For the WCW Television Championship:

Johnny B. Badd © vs. Big Bubba Rogers

Comments:

For the WCW World Tag Team Championships:

No one allowed at ringside

Harlem Heat© vs. The American Males

Comments:

Road Warrior Hawk vs. Kurasawa

Comments:

Bonus Questions:

Match of the Night?: Sting v Pillman

How many titles change hands?: 1

Rey Mysterio will make his debut tonight, who will interrupt him?: Guerreros

Who takes the fall in the six man tag match?: Morris

Where in the arena will the deciding fall of the Sabu vs Alex Wright occur?: Ladies toilet

Warhawk8492 · October 1, 2018

For the WCW World Heavyweight Championship:

Hulk Hogan© vs. The Giant (with The Taskmaster)

Comments: Creative control brother!

For the WCW United States Championship:

Sting© vs “The Loose Cannon” Brian Pillman

Comments:

The Nasty Boys vs. The Blue Bloods (with Lanny Poffo)

Comments:

Los Guerreros (Eddie, Chavo & Hector) vs The Dungeon of Doom (The Shark, Meng, Hugh Morris)

Comments:

Lex Luger vs. “Macho Man” Randy Savage

Comments:

Falls Count Anywhere

Alex Wright vs Sabu

Comments:

For the WCW Television Championship:

Johnny B. Badd © vs. Big Bubba Rogers

Comments:

For the WCW World Tag Team Championships:

No one allowed at ringside

Harlem Heat© vs. The American Males

Comments:

Road Warrior Hawk vs. Kurasawa

Comments:

Bonus Questions:

Match of the Night?: Sting Vs Pillman

How many titles change hands?: 2

Rey Mysterio will make his debut tonight, who will interrupt him?: Dean Malenko

Who takes the fall in the six man tag match?: Hugh

Where in the arena will the deciding fall of the Sabu vs Alex Wright occur?: Parking Lot

bonnie · October 2, 2018

Hulk Hogan©

Comments:

For the WCW United States Championship:

Sting©

Comments:

The Blue Bloods (with Lanny Poffo)

Comments:

Los Guerreros (Eddie, Chavo & Hector)

Comments:

“Macho Man” Randy Savage

Comments:

Falls Count Anywhere

Alex Wright

Comments:

For the WCW Television Championship:

Johnny B. Badd ©

Comments:

For the WCW World Tag Team Championships:

No one allowed at ringside

Harlem Heat©

Comments:

Kurasawa

Comments:

Bonus Questions:

Match of the Night?: sting v Pillman

How many titles change hands?: 0

Rey Mysterio will make his debut tonight, who will interrupt him?: Malenko

Who takes the fall in the six man tag match?: Hugh

Where in the arena will the deciding fall of the Sabu vs Alex Wright occur?: the ramp

to4sty · October 2, 2018

For the WCW World Heavyweight Championship:

Hulk Hogan© vs. The Giant (with The Taskmaster)

Comments: No way on God’s green earth will Hogan agree to job to the Giant at this stage of his career.....hopefully it’s some kind of rage DQ victory, not the Orange Goblin Big Booting, Bodyslamming and Legdropping the Giant to oblivion

For the WCW United States Championship:

Sting© vs “The Loose Cannon” Brian Pillman

Comments: I’ve changed this pick five times.....I really want Pillman to win, but will Sting agree? If he does it may be a DQ/Count-Out deal that keeps the belt on the Stinger.....the Horsemen are involved somewhere

The Nasty Boys vs. The Blue Bloods (with Lanny Poffo)

Comments: I expect a poem from Lanny at some point, just so you know

Los Guerreros (Eddie, Chavo & Hector) vs The Dungeon of Doom (The Shark, Meng, Hugh Morris)

Comments: DoD need a win if the Giant is getting Hoganised....Hector or Chavo can take the fall to save The Latino’s Heat brother

Lex Luger vs. “Macho Man” Randy Savage

Comments: Another one I’m torn with, another one I can see ending in DQ

Falls Count Anywhere

Alex Wright vs Sabu

Comments: Sabu is the favourite, Das Wunderkind gets a fluke win after Sabu crashes and burns

For the WCW Television Championship:

Johnny B. Badd © vs. Big Bubba Rogers

Comments: I would have no problem with Bubba vein the TV Champ

For the WCW World Tag Team Championships:

No one allowed at ringside

Harlem Heat© vs. The American Males

Comments: Meh, I never liked the American males

Road Warrior Hawk vs. Kurasawa

Comments:

Bonus Questions:

Match of the Night?: Sting/Pillman or Luger/Savage....I’ll go Luger/Savage because Macho can get a great match out of anyone given enough time

How many titles change hands?: 1

Rey Mysterio will make his debut tonight, who will interrupt him?: Someone said Disco, that’s a decent shout

Who takes the fall in the six man tag match?: Chavo

Where in the arena will the deciding fall of the Sabu vs Alex Wright occur?: Somewhere near a balcony that Sabu can fall off

TheBigBad1013 · October 3, 2018

For the WCW World Heavyweight Championship:

Hulk Hogan© vs. The Giant (with The Taskmaster)

Comments:

For the WCW United States Championship:

Sting© vs “The Loose Cannon” Brian Pillman

Comments:

The Nasty Boys vs. The Blue Bloods (with Lanny Poffo)

Comments:

Los Guerreros (Eddie, Chavo & Hector) vs The Dungeon of Doom (The Shark, Meng, Hugh Morris)

Comments:

Lex Luger vs. “Macho Man” Randy Savage

Comments:

Falls Count Anywhere

Alex Wright vs Sabu

Comments:

For the WCW Television Championship:

Johnny B. Badd © vs. Big Bubba Rogers

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For the WCW World Tag Team Championships:

No one allowed at ringside

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Road Warrior Hawk vs. Kurasawa

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Bonus Questions:

Match of the Night?: Gonna go with Luger and Savage

How many titles change hands?: 1

Rey Mysterio will make his debut tonight, who will interrupt him?: Disco

Who takes the fall in the six man tag match?:Hector

Where in the arena will the deciding fall of the Sabu vs Alex Wright occur?: The floor outside the ring

crackerjack · October 13, 2018

<div style="text-align:center;">And with absolutely no delay...</div> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="HKQBwR3s.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/HKQBwR3s.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Scott Norton outlasted 15 other men to win a battle royal to kick off the show - C- l We get shots of the stars of WCW entering the arena - Hulk (with Jimmy Hart), Macho, Luger, Sting, Flair - B l The innovative team of Mr. JL and Chris Kanyon defeated the State Patrol - D+ l Brian Pillman censors himself carefully when hyping up his match with Sting - B- l In 6-man tag action, Disco Inferno and the Super Destroyers defeated the Armstrong Brothers and Julio Sanchez - D l Bischoff leads a WCW panel discussing tonight’s card - C l Col. Parker can’t swing the match for his client as Road Warrior Hawk defeated Kurasawa in a Fall Brawl rematch - C+ Overall Grade: C-</div></div></blockquote> <div style="text-align:center;"><iframe width="112" height="63" src="<a href="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4bATDKXWFiY" rel="external nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/embed/4bATDKXWFiY"</a> frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> <img alt="C6cfiwjs.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/C6cfiwjs.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> WCW HALLOWEEN HAVOC Sunday, Week 4, October 1995 RINGSIDE: SPOOKY! SCAREY! TONY SCHIAVONE and BOBBY “THE BRAIN” HEENAN introduce us to the scariest pay per view of the year, Halloween Havoc! The duo hypes the main, with Brain quipping that with the strength of THE GIANT, HULK HOGAN better be running scared! The pair also hype the clashes between STING and BRIAN PILLMAN and LEX LUGER and "MACHO MAN" RANDY SAVAGE before sending us to the ring! Grade: B+ MATCH 1: In a bout that had decent wrestling but didn't have much heat, Harlem Heat defeated The American Males in 11:38 when Booker T defeated Scotty Riggs by pinfall with a Heat Seeker. Harlem Heat make defense number 3 of their WCW World Tag Team Championships. The Tag Team division has been a bit of a soap opera recently, thanks to COL. PARKER and SENSUOUS SHERRI, but HARLEM HEAT and THE AMERICAN MALES get the chance tonight to show off their skills, with no one at ringside! Booker again proves to be the more skilled brother, mixing it up with both Bagwell and Riggs. Stevie isn’t that far behind, serving as a powerhouse against his toned opponents. The Males are able to get a few near falls - enough to convince the crowd they might pull it off - highlighted by Buff hitting a blockbuster - before Heat shut it down and retain the tag team gold. Grade: C+ POST MATCH: Heat are handed their gold in the ring, embracing a somewhat positive reaction from the WCW crowd! When they walk up the ramp, Parker and Sherri come out holding hands to raise the wrists of the winners! The foursome celebrate their victory, but Book and Stevie share a few knowing glances, before heading to the back. Grade: C+ MATCH 2: In a decent match, Johnny B. Badd defeated Big Bubba Rogers in 8:38 by pinfall with a quick roll up. Johnny B. Badd makes defence number 4 of his WCW World Television Championship. BIG BUBBA made a big statement on the Monday Nitro heading into this show, as he used a low blow to get a pin over JOHNNY B. BADD. Big Bubba wanted to repeat that decision and looked to overpower and out-brawl Badd, but was taken aback with Badd’s toughness and brawling skills that haven’t been displayed yet! Tony quips that it looks like Badd’s been going to boxing practice recently! Despite this, Big Bubba looked for the kill, taking control during the pivotal moments of the match. But, when Bubba looked to finish off the Television Champ, Badd shocked him with a rollup to retain his gold! Grade:C+ ON THE RAMP: TENAY stands on the ramp with a microphone to conduct an interview with THE DIAMOND MINE. Tensions are high when DDP reminded Max Muscle that there would consequences for his failure to gain the Television Title last Saturday Night. With his DIAMOND DOLL looking somewhere between annoyed and concerned behind him, DDP says he put his hard earned winnings to buy his bodyguard a shot, and he blew it! But, after taking Maxx’s hand, DDP says he’s willing to forgive and forget before … BANG! DDP drops Maxx with a Diamond Cutter! Just kidding, Maxx, you’re fired! Grade: C+ <div style="text-align:center;">MATCH 3: In a bout that had decent wrestling but didn't have much heat, Sabu defeated Alex Wright in a Falls Count Anywhere match in 8:17 by pinfall with a Flying Leg Drop. Halloween Havoc used to be known for its gimmick matches (“Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal…”), so you know I had to sneak one on the card. The dangerous SABU has been making waves with his extreme style, and ALEX WRIGHT has put it upon himself to stop the man by playing his own game! This is no DQ, and no count-out, but the folks at Turner won’t let this match go too crazy. Sure, the two go wild with some brawling on the outside, but don’t spend too much time roam around in the crowd, or backstage. This match goes as far as the ramp, when THE SHEIK gets a table for Sabu, who lays the downed Wright on it. Sabu somehow manages to climb the Halloween themed Turnertron, and jumps, delivering a sick flying leg drop through the table! Sabu gets the pin fall on the ramp, as Tony and Brain put over Sabu as a man who will push himself to the extreme to get a victory. Grade: B- BACKSTAGE: MEAN GENE is backstage again with a new guest, this time it’s THE TOTAL PACKAGE! Lex Luger hypes the importance of this upcoming contest with "Macho Man", saying that’s he’s got a lot to prove tonight! Not only to the doubters in the locker room, but to those who still doubt those in the audience tonight! Lex challenges Savage to bring his “A” game tonight - he know he will! Grade: B</div> ON THE TURNERTRON: A video plays hyping Randy Savage vs. Lex Luger. After that interview, we get a quick hype video, showcasing Lex’s return, Macho’s lack of trust, and growing desire of the spotlight for Randy Savage! What will happen when two of the biggest stars in wrestling clash? Grade: B+ MATCH 4: In a bout that had fantastic heat and great wrestling, Randy Savage defeated Lex Luger in 12:51 by pinfall after an Elbow Drop. Lex Luger continues to prove that he has a presence in big moments - with a solid performance against Hogan and now Macho! This match honestly deserved more time to develop here, as it’s an old-school back and forth match, with the two trading basic moves and posing, and the warm reception to Lex in this contest draws the ire of the Macho Man. The rest of the match sees work as a reluctant heel, working over his powerhouse opponent, as Halloween Havoc cheered the former driver of the Lex Express on. A rest hold sees Lex mount a comeback, but Savage ultimately slips out of a Torture Rack, knocking out Lex enough to nail a Elbow Drop for the pinfall. Grade: B IN THE RING: Macho Man embraces the cheers of the crowd, getting a huge win at Halloween Havoc! But, in his celebration, he notices a recovering Lex Luger getting to his feet. Lex and Savage meet in the center of the ring, and Lex offers his hand! Savage is quick to make a decision, angrily walking away! This was his moment, darn it! Grade: A <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">EVERYONE MUST PAY FOR THEIR SINS, HULK HOGAN!</div> <img alt="brx4MV7s.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/brx4MV7s.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="MnBPeJrs.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/MnBPeJrs.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="Klw6WNzs.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/Klw6WNzs.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> We revisit the cartoonish set of the DUNGEON OF DOOM where THE TASKMASTER stoically stands by the throne of his MASTER, with The Giant resting his hand throne, casting a huge shadow in the background. “SULLIVAN, MY SON!” The Master says that he has educated his Taskmaster enough for tonight, and asks Taskmaster to deliver his message to the man who will soon meet his fate, Hulk Hogan. A cold giggle comes out of the Taskmaster, who is quick to thank his Master for the platform to share his thoughts. Taskmaster starts going after the Hulkster, arguing that despite his career, despite having the Hulkamaniacs that can’t see through the delusion he created, and despite the prize around his waist, he is flawed. “You see,” explains Taskmaster, “you are flawed, Hogan, because you lack empathy for those you have wronged!” Taskmaster points to the men that Hogan stopped on his rise to fame, the men who were someone… but just weren’t Hulk Hogan. The Taskmaster brings up the man who help create his favorite Monster, as even he was wronged by Hulk Hogan… And, since he lacks that basic, human emotion, he will pay for his wrongs. “Everyone must pay for their sins, Hulk Hogan!” With that, Taskmaster grimly promises that The Giant, win, lose, or draw, will make sure he pays for his sins… and that is etched in stone. Grade: B-</div></blockquote> MATCH 5: In a decent match, The Dungeon Of Doom (Meng, The Shark and Hugh Morrus) defeated Eddie Guerrero, Chavo Guerrero Jr. and Hector Guerrero in 6:37 when Meng defeated Hector Guerrero by pinfall with a Death Grip. LOS GUERREROS fight hard in this contest and show a great amount of hunger, looking to upset the force has reigned as the most dominant faction in WCW over the past few months. EDDIE is able to counter and outsmart HUGH MORRIS again, who nervously laughs at the frustrated glares of SHARK and MENG. Some quick tags sees HECTOR AND CHAVO dropkick Shark into his corner, where he can tag in the monsterous Meng. Meng is the real bad ass on the Dungeon’s team, and he proves it by overpowering Hector Guerrero and making him pass out to a Death Grip. Grade: C+ ON THE RAMP: MEAN GENE is on the ramp again to interview the man who has been hyped over the past few weeks - it’s REY MYSTERIO JR! The masked man embraces a warm reaction from the crowd, as Gene asks him about his goals now that he’s signed to WCW. Rey smiles, and says that he wants to try hard, be his best, and live up to the family’s legacy! Gene looks to ask about a budding cruiserweight division in WCW, when the familiar footsteps play, and THE HORSEMEN come out! Flair offers a handshake to the rookie (which he appropriately denies, pushing his hair back), telling Junior to hit the bricks, as the Horsemen have something to say. Rey knows the odds, and backs down (only after sharing a short stare down with DEAN MALENKO), as Flair talks about offering a spot to STING last Nitro. Naitch knows that Sting thinks he doesn’t need them tonight, so they’ll keep their nose out of his business tonight. Naitch also states the offer still stands, and the Horsemen are willing to wait for a bit - but not forever! Clock is ticking! Grade: B- MATCH 6: In a decent match, The Blue Bloods defeated The Nasty Boys in 8:58 when Lord Steven Regal defeated Jerry Sags by pinfall after using Brass Knuckles. A Fall Brawl rematch sees two budding tag team contenders - the posh BLUE BLOODS and the dirty NASTY BOYS - face off in a tag team grudge match. The Blue Bloods are frankly disgusted by the antics of the Nastys, who want blood after only getting a victory by disqualification last month. The Nastys look to brawl, but the technical superiority of the Bloods allow them to isolate Knobbs in their corner. However, they can only control for a bit, as Knobbs comically makes Eaton and Regal headbutt each other, before handing the hot tag to Saggs. Jerry runs wild, but spots the dastardly LANNY POFFO hop on the apron, as the referee instructs Poffo is hop down, Regal is able to smack Saggs with some brass knuckles, getting a tainted win at Halloween Havoc. Grade: B- BACKSTAGE: ERIC BISCHOFF makes his first (and only) appearance of the show, interviewing Sting prior to his United States defence against Brian Pillman. Sting brushes off the comments of The Nature Boy from earlier tonight, saying that he’s focused on “The Loose Cannon”! He apologizes for cutting the interview short, but it’s Showtime! Grade: C+ MATCH 7: In a bout that had great wrestling and good heat, Sting defeated Brian Pillman in 16:53 by pinfall with a quick cradle. Sting makes defence number 5 of his WCW United States Championship. The longest match of the night (only a little bit longer than Hogan/Giant) sees the Stinger defend his United States Championship against the newly christened “Loose Cannon”! Pillman is just as athletically gifted as Sting, but his crazy attitude gets him the advantage in this back and forth match. Pillman truly pushes Sting to the limit, but Sting feeds of the energy that the number two babyface in WCW produces! Sting withstands all of Pillman’s offence, but a few shortcuts sees Pillman regain the advantage towards the end of the match. But, when Pillman looks to close the door, an exhausted Sting cradles up Pillman and gets the win to retain. Grade: B POST MATCH: Pillman seethes in the corner, nearly pulling his hair out, as the tired Sting can barely hold his arm up in victory. As Sting falls to his knees on the mat, Pillman snaps and strikes! Laying in shot and shot, and pushing off the referee who tries to stop him, Pillman effectively knocks out Sting. Not satisfied with his work, Pillman grabs a chair, and lays shots on the back of the current United States Champion, before a swarm of road agents pull Pillman away! Grade: B ON THE TURNERTRON: The crowd gets a chance to catch their breath, as the folks at home are treated to a hype video for the main event. We receive grainy footage of the Hulkster getting victories over big men - Shark, VADER to name a few, but the screen colorizes at the sight at the Giant! Footage is shown of the giant dominating opponent after opponent in WCW, leading us to question if the Hulkster has enough to pull off a victory tonight! Grade: B+ </div> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">MAIN EVENT: <img alt="WdcthYcs.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/WdcthYcs.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="iccMDkvs.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/iccMDkvs.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="Klw6WNzs.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/Klw6WNzs.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Taskmaster leads his Giant in the ring against the Hulk Hogan, looking to make the man pay for his sins, and strip him of his gold! Hogan is unable to gain momentum at the beginning of this match, with a hesitant Hogan still not sure how to even approach this big man. The match is slow, with Giant keeping control of the match, and hogan selling like death to put over the youngest of his backstage friends! The damage is eventually too much for hogan, causing the champ to slide out of the ring. As head referee NICK PATRICK’s count grew and grew closer and closer to 10, the Taskmaster rushed to the Hulkster, only to run his struggling enemy back into the ring. The Giant continued to lay on the punishment much to the enjoyment of the taskmaster, choking him on the mat with his large feet and slamming him over and over again. The Giant would then lock the champ in a Bearhug, hoping to drain the life out of the Hulkster. But, the Hulkamaniacs eat it up, cheering for their hero to bust out of the hold! Hogan somehow manages to withstand the pain, hammering the Giant on his back to break out of the loosening hold! Hulkster shakes his head - he’s not going down that he easy! A couple punches staggers the Giant, and Hogan goes off the ropes to attempt to knock the Giant down. The Giant senses it coming, using Hogan’s momentum against him to toss him out of the ring. Hogan is again left to struggle on the floor to beat the 10 count, as Taskmaster looks to again toss Hogan in the ring. But, JIMMY HART appears at ringside to assist the Hulkster, getting into the face of the evil Taskmaster. Bad choice, as Taskmaster clutches Hart but his shirt collar to do some damage. But, Hogan sees this, and hulks up! You can’t mess with his friends! A huge punch sees Taskmaster loss his grip of the “Mouth of the South”, and Hogan heroically charges into the ring! Hogan is able to counter the initial offence of The Giant, ducking under his strikes and firing back! Giant is staggering, as Hogan is able to nail right after right! Backing the big man against the ropes, Hogan whips Giant off the ropes, nailing a big boot to get the Giant down for the first time in the match! Hogan is feeling and fueling this electric crowd, as he bounces of the ropes to deliver a leg drop… and the Taskmaster runs in to blast Hogan, making him lose all momentum! In a bout that had fantastic heat and great wrestling, Hulk Hogan defeated The Giant in 16:20 by disqualification when The Taskmaster ran in and attacked Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan makes defence number 8 of his WCW World Heavyweight Championship. Grade: B+ The bell is rung for the disqualification, but Hogan’s still on fire! He shakes off the blow from The Taskmaster, lifting him up and nailing a big slam! This has given The Giant a chance to recover, as he grabs the Hulkster by the throat and hits a huge Chokeslam! Helping his Taskmaster to his feet, Giant and Taskmaster share a laugh at the fate of Hogan. As Jimmy Hart looks on with fear at ringside, Taskmaster instructs the Giant to lift Hogan up again for another chokeslam. Despite the shouts of growing number of road agents at ringside, and the pleading of Jimmy Hart, Giant delivers - slamming Hogan right through the ring! Brain is at awe at the might of The Giant, and Giant and Taskmaster walk out of the ring, pleased with havoc they have caused! Tony ends the night on a somber note - wondering how the Hulkster will recover from this, as men rush to the ring to try to help him out! Grade: A</div></div></blockquote> <div style="text-align:center;">GRADE: 85/B+ BUY RATE: .86</div>

crackerjack · October 13, 2018

There it is folks! Havoc was posted later than expected, just couldn't find the time and motivation to post during last weekend. Hope y'all enjoyed! Let's check out those comments: <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kijar" data-cite="Kijar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Twas my love for Marty Jannetty. Vega is a decent talent, but I just really go for the "forgettable" guy in the tag team more often than not. Aka The Jannetty instead of the Michaels. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Glad it paid off.</div></blockquote> Nice to know. I will hint that Jannetty is penciled in for a role at the Survivor Series, so more Jannetty on your TV screen! And some big news happened with him as well... <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Halloween Havoc time! As bad a show as this is in hindsight, when I was 11 years old I used to love the real life version and watched it repeatedly.</div></blockquote> I’ll argue that this show is in the “so bad, it’s good” territory. Monster Trucks, the YETAY, and that good stuff is bad is retrospect, but really fun. It’s those Road Wild/Uncensored shows that get to be the “just bad” WCW territory. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hulk Hogan - While I don't think you'll be going with the whole "Jimmy Hart put a clause in the contract that Giant gets the title if Hogan is DQ'd" I do think that there will be a disqualification here. Giant is too much of a huge deal in WCW that he shouldn't be lining up to take the big bodyslam and leg drop for the pin here.</div></blockquote> Give Sullivan some credit: if Hulk had to lose the belt, they at least thought of a different way for him to do it. Not here though. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="to4sty" data-cite="to4sty" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For the WCW World Heavyweight Championship: Hulk Hogan© vs. The Giant (with The Taskmaster) Comments: No way on God’s green earth will Hogan agree to job to the Giant at this stage of his career.....hopefully it’s some kind of rage DQ victory, not the Orange Goblin Big Booting, Bodyslamming and Legdropping the Giant to oblivion</div></blockquote> I’ve heard a lot of nicknames for the Hulkster - the Orange Goblin is a new one. Happy Halloween, everybody! <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Warhawk8492" data-cite="Warhawk8492" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For the WCW World Heavyweight Championship: Hulk Hogan© vs. The Giant (with The Taskmaster) Comments: Creative control brother! </div></blockquote> Actually, fingers crossed, I’ve had no problem with Hogan so far. He’s saving it for Starcade. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="to4sty" data-cite="to4sty" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For the WCW United States Championship: Sting© vs “The Loose Cannon” Brian Pillman Comments: I’ve changed this pick five times.....I really want Pillman to win, but will Sting agree? If he does it may be a DQ/Count-Out deal that keeps the belt on the Stinger.....the Horsemen are involved somewhere</div></blockquote> Nice to know you, and it appears maybe some others, had trouble picking this one, especially considering that the main was a little obvious. I don’t get that vibe from Sting. He didn’t have any issue putting over The Giant (albeit by DQ), so maybe he would be cool with Pillman? It’s a wait and see situation. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No Contest - Luger and Savage are too big for one to truly go over the other in their first meeting. Dungeon interference likely.</div></blockquote> I’m kicking myself for not letting this go to a no-contest here since the match was actually better than expected. But, the pair are going in different directions towards Starcade at this point. I’ll keep the match up in my back pocket. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blodyxe" data-cite="Blodyxe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Falls Count Anywhere Alex Wright vs Sabu Comments: Alex Wright is often accused of being bland, and Sabu is anything BUT bland, so he goes over after a crazy spot</div></blockquote> Not the craziest dive from Sabu - I figured the folks at Turner probably wouldn’t like a balcony dive, or barbed wire, or anything like that - but I hope it came off like something WCW would actually ok. Hell, if the Public Enemy could do stupid table spots in WCW, why not Sabu? <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blodyxe" data-cite="Blodyxe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For the WCW Television Championship: Johnny B. Badd © vs. Big Bubba Rogers Comments: I'm pulling for the challenger</div></blockquote> Nice to see so many folks pulling for Big Bubba. Don’t worry, I’ve got some ideas for him, just not right now. Stay tuned! <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="to4sty" data-cite="to4sty" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The Nasty Boys vs. The Blue Bloods (with Lanny Poffo) Comments: I expect a poem from Lanny at some point, just so you know <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> …. Maybe WW3. Don’t hold me to that. Let's check out those prediction standings: Blodyxe(+7): 27 Kijar (+8): 25 To4sty(+5): 24 Thebigbad1013(+8), Beejus(+6): 23 Nobby (+7): 20 Warhawk (+7): 18 Bonnie (+9): 9 Jaded: 8 123Kidd, Destiny: 4 Jaysin: 3 Blody keeps the lead! The best performance belongs to Bonnie, and I offer a warm welcome! And a thank you to Beejus for the DOTM nominations. Like last month, I'll post a news update for WCW and WWF, and a peak at ECW, sometime in the middle of the week. I'm expecting to have a busy weekend, so I'm hoping to be able get the next week's shows done next weekend. Until then... <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">NITRO vs. RAW - Week 9! Week 1, November 1995</div> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="dGtikhmt.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/dGtikhmt.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> WCW Nitro:</div> Chavo Guerrero & Hector Guerrero vs. Arn Anderson & Dean Malenko Comments: Randy Savage vs. Kurasawa Comments: Diamond Dallas Page vs. Eddie Guerrero vs. Ric Flair vs. Road Warrior Animal Comments: </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45641" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="bj3HleEt.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/bj3HleEt.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> WWF Monday Night Raw:</div> Bret Hart & Fatu vs. Jerry Lawler & Isaac Yankem, DDS Comments: Ahmed Johnson vs Sycho Sid Comments: For the WWF World Heavyweight Championship Razor Ramon© vs. The British Bulldog Comments: </div></blockquote></div></blockquote>

to4sty · October 13, 2018

Great Havoc, with a few things I didn't see coming (like Johnny B Badd get the push of his life with a victory over Bubba, who was still credible enough to be getting World Title opportunities around this time....albeit on tv not PPV, but still) and the (possible?) slow heel turn of the Macho Man continues....one of these two needs to turn eventually, the face side of the main event is too stacked....that Hogan/Giant match pulled out a great grade too considering the Giant is still (game wise) a virtual no-one.....well done Orange Goblin

WCW Nitro:

Chavo Guerrero & Hector Guerrero vs. Arn Anderson & Dean Malenko

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Randy Savage vs. Kurasawa

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Diamond Dallas Page vs. Eddie Guerrero vs. Ric Flair vs. Road Warrior Animal

Comments: What a random match.....I'm assuming the context will come about on Nitro.....Flair is head and shoulders above everyone else

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WWF Monday Night Raw:

Bret Hart & Fatu vs. Jerry Lawler & Isaac Yankem, DDS

Comments: Fatu makes the difference.....by eating the pin

Ahmed Johnson vs Sycho Sid

Comments: Ahmed is still making a name for himself, Sid has far more to lose in defeat here that Ahmed will gain in victory.....Bodydonnas cost?

For the WWF World Heavyweight Championship

Comments: Time to start seeing how Razor does with the belt, a solid victory over a decent challenger

Kijar · October 13, 2018

WCW Nitro:

Chavo Guerrero & Hector Guerrero vs. Arn Anderson & Dean Malenko

Comments:

Randy Savage vs. Kurasawa

Comments:

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Eddie Guerrero vs. Ric Flair vs. Road Warrior Animal

Comments:

WWF Monday Night Raw:

Bret Hart & Fatu vs. Jerry Lawler & Isaac Yankem, DDS

Comments:

Ahmed Johnson vs Sycho Sid

Comments: if you dont like Ahmed, show yourself out

For the WWF World Heavyweight Championship

Comments:

Blodyxe · October 13, 2018

Chavo Guerrero & Hector Guerrero vs. Arn Anderson & Dean Malenko

Comments: Easy win for Horsemen

Randy Savage vs. Kurasawa

Comments: No problem for Macho here

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Eddie Guerrero vs. Ric Flair vs. Road Warrior Animal

Comments: Flair with a roll up on Animal

WWF Monday Night Raw:

Bret Hart & Fatu vs. Jerry Lawler & Isaac Yankem, DDS

Comments: To keep it somewhat competitive

Ahmed Johnson vs Sycho Sid

Comments: Instant Classic

For the WWF World Heavyweight Championship

Comments: Stacked Raw

Jaysin · October 14, 2018

WCW Nitro:

Chavo Guerrero & Hector Guerrero vs. Arn Anderson & Dean Malenko

Comments: I expect Hector to take the fall

Randy Savage vs. Kurasawa

Comments: As much as I love Kurasawa/Nakanishi, there's no chance of him beating Savage.

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Eddie Guerrero vs. Ric Flair vs. Road Warrior Animal

Comments: DDP and Eddie can eventually be main event winners, but when Ric frikkin Flair is in the match, I doubt anyone besides someone like Hogan, Savage, Hogan, or Sting is going to win.

WWF Monday Night Raw:

Bret Hart & Fatu vs. Jerry Lawler & Isaac Yankem, DDS

Comments: Lawler should just join commentary

Ahmed Johnson vs Sycho Sid

Comments: I'm probably wrong, but I love Ahmed Johnson

For the WWF World Heavyweight Championship

Comments: Razor wins everything

bonnie · October 14, 2018

Arn Anderson & Dean Malenko

Comments: I expect Hector to take every fall ever forever

Randy Savage

Comments: Obvs

Ric Flair vs. Road Warrior Animal

Comments: Can’t bet against Flair yet

WWF Monday Night Raw:

Jerry Lawler & Isaac Yankem, DDS

Comments: Gotta keep it going, Fatu takes the fall after heavy cheating

Sycho Sid

Comments: Ahmed is injury prone and makes 0 sense on a mic ugh.

For the WWF World Heavyweight Championship

Razor Ramon©

Comments: Why would he lose it that quickly?

Beejus · October 14, 2018

Probably the best Havoc '95 you can have without monster trucks <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

Arn and Dean - The Three Horsemen ride on past the Guerreros easily here. I don't see Sting joining the ranks, but I would bet that #4 is coming soon.

Randy Savage

Ric Flair

Bret and Fatu - Fatu isn't quite Ahmed Johnson, but he can MAKE DA DIFFERENCE

Ahmed Johnson - This one should put him over big.

Razor Ramon

TheBigBad1013 · October 15, 2018

Great job with Havoc! Very much enjoyed the show.

Chavo Guerrero & Hector Guerrero vs. Arn Anderson & Dean Malenko

Comments:

Randy Savage vs. Kurasawa

Comments:

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Eddie Guerrero vs. Ric Flair vs. Road Warrior Animal

Comments:

Quote:

WWF Monday Night Raw:

Bret Hart & Fatu vs. Jerry Lawler & Isaac Yankem, DDS

Comments:

Ahmed Johnson vs Sycho Sid

Comments:

For the WWF World Heavyweight Championship

Comments:

Nobby_McDonald · October 15, 2018

Chavo Guerrero & Hector Guerrero vs. Arn Anderson & Dean Malenko

Comments:

Randy Savage vs. Kurasawa

Comments:

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Eddie Guerrero vs. Ric Flair vs. Road Warrior Animal

Comments:

Quote:

WWF Monday Night Raw:

Bret Hart & Fatu vs. Jerry Lawler & Isaac Yankem, DDS

Comments:

Ahmed Johnson vs Sycho Sid

Comments:

For the WWF World Heavyweight Championship

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