Gregkendell86 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BuddyGarner" data-cite="BuddyGarner" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Love popularity cap and crowd burnout feature.<p> </p><p> Since I just spam matches and angles I'll probably not notice it though. I never noticed the pop cap before since I just ran shows every day so the decay was not noticeable.</p><p> </p><p> Crowd burnout I probably will just take the hit or just run however long show I can without getting burnt out. Maybe the burnout could not happen for season finales or prestigious PPVs.</p><p> </p><p> It's a step in the right direction though as it's a beginning against spam tactics.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> You call it spam but actually booking one long show gives you less popularity than booking 3 on the same day. I personally will turn off crowd burnout. Since I play with other people. So it is either book 1 normal show and wait for the game to come back to me. Which could take a week in real life. So I book 1 long show to at least be able to accomplish something in my federation.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairToFace Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Glad that employment histories can now be imported. I've hated having to go through and add all the employment histories, rather than simply updating the ones who need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christmas_ape Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 <p>Although it's not exciting to me in any way what so ever, it's still good to see so many quality of life improvements for mod makers. </p><p> </p><p> I play 99% C-Verse but the tiny amount of modding I tried quickly showed me the insane amount of work that must go into it all. So even as a c-verse guy I understand quicker mods = more/better mods = more people playing the game and on the forums which is always a plus. </p><p> </p><p> I think the ai improvements also sound promising. Of course the AI is in many ways a main weakness of the game, but I don't see how you could make ai that could in any way book a wrestling promotions realistically, especially sports entertainment style products. Personally I accept there's always going to be limitations to how great the ai can get and appreciate any small improvements which there seems to be plenty of this time.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfanar Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 On the legacy update... Does that mean that there is a chance a 30 year old could generate an adult regen? The math seems slightly problematic <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munit Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I really hope we get the ewr throwback rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuFoundation Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Munit" data-cite="Munit" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I really hope we get the ewr throwback rules</div></blockquote><p> Adam has stated that unless specifically stated otherwise, features aren't removed. I don't see a reason to expect the EWR throwbacks to be removed from the game. Also, very nice features today. Both the mod making QOL stuff, as well as the crowds turning on overused workers. I've seen a lot of people request for features to stop spam strats, so I guess we now have it.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dolfanar" data-cite="Dolfanar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On the legacy update... Does that mean that there is a chance a 30 year old could generate an adult regen? The math seems slightly problematic <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The legacy feature is for passing on masks or gimmicks, not generating children - so even if they have a blood relation, a 30 year old generating an 18 year old successor doesn't pose any age related issues as there's no implication that they're parent and offspring, they could just as easily be siblings, cousins, uncle and nephew, etc.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat666 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 <p>For the overuse workers,</p><p> I always like to book tournament shows (1 Singles tournament and 1 tag tournament)</p><p> </p><p> So my finals are workers that will wrestle three times in the same night. I wonder if the crowd will be sick of seeing those workers, or if there will be work aroud to let us book tournament shows.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 For the overuse workers, I always like to book tournament shows (1 Singles tournament and 1 tag tournament) So my finals are workers that will wrestle three times in the same night. I wonder if the crowd will be sick of seeing those workers, or if there will be work aroud to let us book tournament shows. I'd be surprised if it was a harsh penalty. As long as you book the tournament smartly, with the matches getting bigger and better as you go along, any penalty will be a non-issue. Much like the repetitive booking penalty. I love this feature. In my CGC games I tend to spam DeColts (every angle between matches) and this is going to make that a trickier proposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 For the overuse workers, I always like to book tournament shows (1 Singles tournament and 1 tag tournament) So my finals are workers that will wrestle three times in the same night. I wonder if the crowd will be sick of seeing those workers, or if there will be work aroud to let us book tournament shows. Yeah... I'm not so sure how I actually feel about overusing a worker. My mind keeps going to Daniel Bryan's booking a while back... I feel like that would get the penalty, but it wasn't a penalty in real life.. more like magic. I like immersion stuff added, I never did the whole spam a worker thing, so I didn't even think this was an issue. I really don't see how this adds any realism or immersion to the game... Just feels like a way to "nerf" a few people from playing a certain way, and since you can turn it off, it's not even doing that. Did people "accidentally" do this, and ask for it to be nerfed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 The penalty already exists in the game though, and main eventers generally didn’t have a cap, UMC were capped at 1 hour, and it trickles down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 The penalty already exists in the game though, and main eventers generally didn’t have a cap, UMC were capped at 1 hour, and it trickles down. More realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a0161613 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Yeah... I'm not so sure how I actually feel about overusing a worker. My mind keeps going to Daniel Bryan's booking a while back... I feel like that would get the penalty, but it wasn't a penalty in real life.. more like magic. I like immersion stuff added, I never did the whole spam a worker thing, so I didn't even think this was an issue. I really don't see how this adds any realism or immersion to the game... Just feels like a way to "nerf" a few people from playing a certain way, and since you can turn it off, it's not even doing that. Did people "accidentally" do this, and ask for it to be nerfed? The DB comparison is good but I'd imagine there'd be no penalty for a popular guy with massive momentum and rapidly increasing hrat., all in his favour. Reigns on the other hand could be interesting as would Shane MacMahon at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfanar Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 The legacy feature is for passing on masks or gimmicks, not generating children - so even if they have a blood relation, a 30 year old generating an 18 year old successor doesn't pose any age related issues as there's no implication that they're parent and offspring, they could just as easily be siblings, cousins, uncle and nephew, etc. Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 More realistic. Well my main point was for the examples people were worrying about, surely they’d be able to tolerate Daniel Bryan being on screen a ton considering he was like the #1 or 2 most over guy on the roster. Whether by time or by segment number the super top guys most likely have a great tolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyGarner Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Yes! to worker overuse but I'd like to see it based on a one month period rather than per show. Though I'll probably just spam workers regardless of the momentum period because momentum is nothing. To those complaining remember it's momentum not overness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just skimmed over the Developer's Diary and can't even begin to put into words how much I'm looking forward to this new version! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuFoundation Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I really don't see how this adds any realism or immersion to the game... People getting sick of an overused worker? Happens all the time in wrestling tbh. I see this as absolutely realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 The first time a wrestler makes his entrance? Excited. The third time he makes his entrance? Less excited. From opener to main eventer, this is true. It doesn't kill segments (as I hope this penalty doesn't) but it does reduce their potency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuFoundation Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I'm interested in seeing if and how this plays into block tapings. Exciting stuff. It could add a completely new layer of strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 People getting sick of an overused worker? Happens all the time in wrestling tbh. I see this as absolutely realistic.I don't think it hurts popularity or momentum, unless it's from actual bad booking period. Take a current example someone else brought up... Shane. I think it's helping him be a stronger heel, maybe more momentum to be honest. Roman doesn't have the charisma to be what they tried making him, but because of what they tried to do, he is elevated quite a bit from it. Honestly don't care one way or the other, never overused anyone outside of having too long of matches for openers years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuFoundation Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I don't think it hurts popularity or momentum, unless it's from actual bad booking period. Take a current example someone else brought up... Shane. I think it's helping him be a stronger heel, maybe more momentum to be honest. Roman doesn't have the charisma to be what they tried making him, but because of what they tried to do, he is elevated quite a bit from it. Honestly don't care one way or the other, never overused anyone outside of having too long of matches for openers years ago. From what I've seen by browsing the wrestling forums, the overabundance of Shane has turned many people away from the product, actually. And Roman is actually a special case that doesn't really have anything to do with these mechanics. It's just that word got out that he was Vince's chosen one, and the company is seen as a major heel, so anyone who the company gets behind effectively turns heel. That coupled with the fact that this all started with people blaming Roman for Bryan not winning the Rumble that one year. But it absolutely is a trend that even when internet favorites like a Dean Ambrose get the title, people quickly turn on them as the company is "shoving them down people's throats". It's been a trend for years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 From what I've seen by browsing the wrestling forums, the overabundance of Shane has turned many people away from the product, actually. And Roman is actually a special case that doesn't really have anything to do with these mechanics. It's just that word got out that he was Vince's chosen one, and the company is seen as a major heel, so anyone who the company gets behind effectively turns heel. That coupled with the fact that this all started with people blaming Roman for Bryan not winning the Rumble that one year. But it absolutely is a trend that even when internet favorites like a Dean Ambrose get the title, people quickly turn on them as the company is "shoving them down people's throats". It's been a trend for years now. I don't disagree with anything you said. I just don't think it really hurts momentum or popularity because we are mad they are being "shoved down our throats". I agree it ticks me off and everything else you said. New Stuff: I really like the titles being more "universal", so the prestige seemingly match's the promotions level of popularity. Personally, I have hardly any interest in the drug portions of this game. I was fine with it before, fine with the changes, doesn't add nothing for immersion into wrestling for me. I wouldn't mind nor care if it was in any game at all to be honest, to include any sports, movie or music tycoon type, doesn't matter one way or the other. Might be fun to some, people must have been asking for it, so I'm not against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Solid changes today. Especially in regards to belt prestige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLCJR4LIFE Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Hey my painkiller suggestion made it in! The legacy feature is interesting to me, it’s the closest thing we’ve gotten for workers having real children in game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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