franticloser Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 No what you described is a fan of a particular style of wrestling. And to say Daniel Bryan didn't have a watchable match prior to joining the. WWE is patently false. A Smark is defined (and this is coming from someone who has was around when the term came about) as a fan or mark who thinks they are smart to the business and because they know insider terms. Like psychology and what it means when it pertains to wrestling. While never actually being trained to.be a wrestler. So pretty much 99% of internet wrestling fans. So what you described is not a smark, it is just a fan who doesn't like what you do. Different strokes for different folks. And to your comment on Reigns and Cena being more athletic then say Gargano or Bryan. That isn't true, stronger and having a better physique doesn't = more athletic. Is a gymnast less athletic then a pro football player? No they are just athletic in different ways. And again this isn't the place for this conversation. So I will end it here and if you'd like to discuss it further pm me or start a thread in the dog pound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Going to jump in again as this has gotten waaaaaaaay off topic from the point of a TEW20 feature and has devolved into a battle of personal opinions no longer relevant to the game. TLCJR4LYFE, this is the second time I'm doing this to a debate you are involved in within a 24 hour period, so please try to keep on point or take these debates to PM. I'm saying tha publically rather than by PM in the hopes that others will remember that in future too and act accordingly. This is the TEW20 Discussion Thread, one of the key threads for discussion of a future game and as such this particular thread needs to be more on topic for people than the others. I'm usually happy to leave meandering discussions as they are, but this thread is an exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLCJR4LIFE Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I want to see the Undertaker tweeting at people like he’s The Iron Sheik in my next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinsmoker Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I want to see the Undertaker tweeting at people like he’s The Iron Sheik in my next game. Should I like him to Undertaker's instagram or does someone else want to do that? Keep in mind that this is still time-era locked and tied to personality. It's very unlikely that there is no personality trait, that leads to people not using social media much. But even then...The Undertaker has been in many interviews, in and out of character. Fans share that stuff via social media, resulting in the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMichaelJordan Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 It would be cool to see fans use of social media. Some sort of fan reaction & feedback, maybe even interaction with the wrestlers. That would really make things immersive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavelleuk Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Really liking this social media stuff! In the Cornellverse 2018 mod i released I added a few social media incidents to people's bio's (Joanna silver and Emmy having an online feud for example) so I'm really pleased that stuff will now actually happen in game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerodragomir1 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Gonna be interesting to see how that social media stuff works. I'm sure it's like how wrestlers in TEW16 will do an interview in the updates section. I think it's a very cool addition. I also like how it's locked to just modern times. At least with the social media aspect. They could still have wrestlers do interviews in times before the internet & have them put a wrestler over or insult someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiPlus Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I love the expanded social media content. I was hoping for something like this and the fact it is an extensive list is amazing. For curiosity sake I wouldn't mind knowing how many potential storylines are attached to it. Wow love to see some of those like .1% storylines that are truly special in those regards that give like a huge bonus or negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piccamo Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Will social media features be tied to an era in some way? It would be immersion-breaking to have them any time before ~2010. I like the idea because we've seen a sharp increase in the use of social media to build feuds in recent times, but it definitely doesn't fit much in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="piccamo" data-cite="piccamo" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Will social media features be tied to an era in some way? It would be immersion-breaking to have them any time before ~2010. I like the idea because we've seen a sharp increase in the use of social media to build feuds in recent times, but it definitely doesn't fit much in the past.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Post said it's time locked to modern era</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuFoundation Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="piccamo" data-cite="piccamo" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Will social media features be tied to an era in some way? It would be immersion-breaking to have them any time before ~2010. I like the idea because we've seen a sharp increase in the use of social media to build feuds in recent times, but it definitely doesn't fit much in the past.</div></blockquote><p> It was already covered in the previous to this entry that social media will be era based. No worries.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Anyone on my roster trying to start childish squabbles over the internet is getting fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliath764 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I hope the social media stuff is done better than in WMMA5. WMMA5's just feel way too robotic to be immersive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Anything to get us more out of the ring incidents in general, the small stuff at least. Guys getting into bar fights, fan encounters, etc. Things like this should make a company feel like something actually happens while waiting for your next show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampmon Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 <p>This has probably come up before, but I've been searching and cant find it and cant recall reading it in the journal (So please forgive me if has been asked)</p><p> </p><p> Has there been a change to Wrestler's being willing to negotiate with companies that are "Too Small"? With recent developments in the real world with Moxley, Jericho etc going off to AEW it seems having the ability to simulate that would be fun - assuming you have the funds to throw around.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="vampmon" data-cite="vampmon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This has probably come up before, but I've been searching and cant find it and cant recall reading it in the journal (So please forgive me if has been asked)<p> </p><p> Has there been a change to Wrestler's being willing to negotiate with companies that are "Too Small"? With recent developments in the real world with Moxley, Jericho etc going off to AEW it seems having the ability to simulate that would be fun - assuming you have the funds to throw around.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It hasn’t been discussed in the journal whether that’s changing. I hope it does change though.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLCJR4LIFE Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="vampmon" data-cite="vampmon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This has probably come up before, but I've been searching and cant find it and cant recall reading it in the journal (So please forgive me if has been asked)<p> </p><p> Has there been a change to Wrestler's being willing to negotiate with companies that are "Too Small"? With recent developments in the real world with Moxley, Jericho etc going off to AEW it seems having the ability to simulate that would be fun - assuming you have the funds to throw around.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This already works properly in TEW2016.</p><p> </p><p> The issue is that most mods and the C-Verse in particular rarely have situations where a worker who is ordinarily too big for a company would ever need to sign with a smaller company because he always has other options.</p><p> </p><p> RWC might be a rare exception in that, but almost all historical mods are going to have several bigger companies at once including the Japanese companies and usually at least a cult level EMLL.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> But you can just see this, if you leave Marat Khoklov and he never comes out of hiatus and for some reason sometimes the AI just ignores him because he’s on hiatus, when he comes back he will negotiate with you even at regional if your momentum is high enough. I can literally sign him right now in my QAW game and I’ve just hit October of the first year.(I won’t because he’s male)</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBEZA Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Anyone on my roster trying to start childish squabbles over the internet is getting fired. This sounds like a classic "Give Me Rules For A Game" rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Barrett Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Only a quick suggestion: what do you think of workers transfer market? Something like you have to pay a certain amount of money to buy a contract of a worker that has a written deal with a company or to make a list of unwanted workers you want to sell and other companies can make offers to you to buy their contracts? I think it's a little bit boring to wait until a worker contract is 3 months to expire to engage a bidding war with other feds... but I know the actual system feels more realistic. From an Italian fan that loves Sir Ryland's works from EWR and can't wait to have his hands on TEW 2020! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everything Ken Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Gonna be interesting to see how that social media stuff works. I'm sure it's like how wrestlers in TEW16 will do an interview in the updates section. I think it's a very cool addition. I also like how it's locked to just modern times. At least with the social media aspect. They could still have wrestlers do interviews in times before the internet & have them put a wrestler over or insult someone. This made me think that it would be cool to have these interviews stored in the workers profile. For example, if so and so worker goes on an interview show and says "I really enjoy working against smaller workers", that would be stored into like a "media comments" section on their profile or something. And possibly give that worker a small bump in morale every time he is in a match with a smaller worker as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliath764 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 This made me think that it would be cool to have these interviews stored in the workers profile. For example, if so and so worker goes on an interview show and says "I really enjoy working against smaller workers", that would be stored into like a "media comments" section on their profile or something. And possibly give that worker a small bump in morale every time he is in a match with a smaller worker as well. Extra cool (but unlikely aesthetic feature) if the "media comment" section has the UI and look of a smartphone so you feel like you are going through the worker's Twitter account or something akin to that when you are checking what he has said to the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7273 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 <p>A couple of things I'd really like to see are:</p><p> </p><p> - Stables across allied promotions. Example would the the Bullet Club being seen in several promotions irl.</p><p> </p><p> - Also, defending a promotion's belt in a different promotion's show. For Alliances</p><p> </p><p> -</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuFoundation Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 So, with the new gimmick system, can I reuse gimmick names for multiple wrestlers? Like, can I basically just have a handful of basic gimmick names, such as Cocky, Wholesome, Brute, which I can reuse over and over, or do the gimmick names have to be unique? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerodragomir1 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 A.I getting a boost for building their own stars would be nice. They do it in 2016 but I love the idea of them being even better at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Some exciting changes the last few weeks. The new "splash" screens are quite nice as well. Hope to see some nice artwork of the C-verse stars or high-Q ppv promo's. I hope these are time-based for that reason alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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