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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To be fair, you, Blue and a couple others night talk (for me), I look forward to. I'm getting sleepy, so I won't be around much longer, but for now I give you this.<p> </p><p> Eliphas = 3 (MLT, TSS, EP</p><p> Blue = 3 (Bak, michgcs, EP</p><p> EP = 3 (Bak, Eliphas, michgcs,</p><p> MLT = 5 (IER, lukess, Eliphas, michgcs, BP</p><p> Lukess = 2 (IER, BHK</p><p> Leion = 4 (TSS, IER, Eliphas, BP, </p><p> Showtime = 1 (EP,</p><p> BHK = 1 (EP</p><p> Emark = 1 (BP</p><p> Zaphir? = 1 (BP</p><p> IER = 1 (BHK, </p><p> </p><p> This is todays answers (forgive me if I left anyone out) minus Archer, Bak, and mchgs. Those three I knew would be most everyone's answer, so I asked for anything but them... So IF they said them (and probably half did), I left them off THIS list.</p><p> </p><p> It's at least something of a discussion thing that maybe we can look back on later. Especially after some start coming up scum.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Kind of sad. My list was left out because they already are three top scum. Lol</p><p> </p><p> But as for the others I guess I can put in my thoughts to some that I am on the fence about</p><p> </p><p> Eliphas - is just kind of blending in, most likely scum. Still waiting on his answer to my question. </p><p> </p><p> Destiny, EP, Bluestar - the longer the game goes on, the more I am starting to feel these people as scum, granted that two out of three can not really be on, but I was half expecting blue to drop in by now. </p><p> </p><p> As for BHK, he seems to be playing his regular play, asking questions to people, makes me think he is town, at least for now.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eternal Phoenix" data-cite="Eternal Phoenix" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Okay, gonna Fire Pro. Finetuning my edits now, oh boy.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Is the dlc good? Thinking of getting it tbh.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm struggling a bit. Maybe I need some "flava" to boost my settings. When I have time to catch up I read and then I'm not sure what to think. I don't think Archer would be so aggressive if scum, but we seem to be pushing people without asking for information. Archer, do you go out at night?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Archer isn't helping his case by being very hostile in his replies.. If he is town, he isn't doing anyone a favor by confusing the thread with his actions.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm struggling a bit. Maybe I need some "flava" to boost my settings. When I have time to catch up I read and then I'm not sure what to think. I don't think Archer would be so aggressive if scum, but we seem to be pushing people without asking for information. Archer, do you go out at night?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Archer isn't helping his case by being very hostile in his replies.. If he is town, he isn't doing anyone a favor by confusing the thread with his actions.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Archer isn't helping his case by being very hostile in his replies.. If he is town, he isn't doing anyone a favor by confusing the thread with his actions.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Screwy mobile internet, making me double post.</p>
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<p>Okay ladies and gents, no more shouting at windmills for me tonight. See you all in about ten hours or so, have a goodnight. </p><p> </p><p>

Oh and so this does not seem like a filler post...</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>@Opulent:</strong> What are your thoughts on Archer? </p><p> </p><p>

How do you feel about IER? </p><p> </p><p>

Do you think the Yankees have the pitching to win the World Series this year? (Sadly I do not)</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Archer isn't helping his case by being very hostile in his replies.. If he is town, he isn't doing anyone a favor by confusing the thread with his actions.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm not even finding him hostile. Aggressive? Yes.</p><p> </p><p> But let's be honest we need that.</p><p> </p><p> I'm actually reminded of his play in Centralia. The one where he called out half the damn scum team and no one listened to him. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> My gut is telling me that scum tried to seize an opportunity to get rid of a good player while they were mostly absent. </p><p> </p><p> Sound familiar DJ?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I have some comments after a quick re-read of Day 2.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>1. Better about TSS and Rev (if he were scum I'd be dead, Chelios style)</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's no lie. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="color:#FF0000;"><strong>Changevote: No Vote</strong></span><p> Hmm... Eenie, meanie, miney, moe.... I am starting to think none of them are scum.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>The evidence against Archer is actually the most sound.</strong> <strong>There is another one I would be more confident on but pft... </strong>Not going to add another candidate at this point.</p><p> </p><p> Someone make a case that can sway me on one of these. I iso'd MLT and didn't find what Rev was looking at. I asked him, no answer, I asked IER if he saw it, evidently he does thus the vote... but no one wants to show Ol' DJ what it is?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Who was the other person?</p><p> </p><p> Also regarding your thoughts on the decision between Archer and MLT, why at the end of the phase were you deciding to vote MLT.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="color:#FF0000;"><strong>Vote: The Archer</strong></span>Only because I just saw Rev's post leave MLT, which is where I was heading.<p> </p><p> Something needs to happen one way or another.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You further explained you were going to lay your vote down on MLT but as you were typing and I switched to Archer the vote.</p><p> </p><p> So, at the time you made the decision to vote on MLT the vote count was:</p><p> </p><p> Archer - 5</p><p> Two - 3</p><p> MLT - 4</p><p> </p><p> Why with 20 minutes left in the phase were you going to cause a further tie in the vote especially when the wagon you thought had a more sound argument going for it was the one that was actually leading. </p><p> </p><p> Seems strange.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wanted to be here before the day ends in case my vote was needed but it looks like it’s not.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Another curious decision. Your vote was needed. Why not vote; don't want a record for us to look back on? Your vote counts even if you aren't the hammer. Just saying.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Another curious decision. Your vote was needed. Why not vote; don't want a record for us to look back on? Your vote counts even if you aren't the hammer. Just saying.</div></blockquote><p> I was iffy on The Two so I didn't really want to put a vote but would've voted if needed. Next time I'll just place a vote, I guess.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I guess information is key, most people seem to think these questions are stupid but here they are...<p> </p><p> Lukess and IER...</p><p> </p><p> Do either of you have a night ability? </p><p> </p><p> If so are you required to use said night ability?</p><p> </p><p> Do either of you see or think you see yourselves in any of the write-ups? (A simple yes or no shall do, if you are town I obviously do not want you pointing yourselves out).</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I will skip the gender question because I have no clue as to the gender of my character and from what michgcs has said it appears he does not know the gender of his character.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> First, I've provided more information than you may realize. I've also given my reads on people. I can't really donthe kind of posting that I did so back in the day as I am not in front of my PC as often. Anyway, to your questions.</p><p> </p><p> Passive.</p><p> </p><p> Passive.</p><p> </p><p> Nope.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm not even finding him hostile. Aggressive? Yes.<p> </p><p> But let's be honest we need that.</p><p> </p><p> I'm actually reminded of his play in Centralia. The one where he called out half the damn scum team and no one listened to him. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> My gut is telling me that scum tried to seize an opportunity to get rid of a good player while they were mostly absent. </p><p> </p><p> Sound familiar DJ?</p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can see that. But scum could have already been on the wagon way before the rush near the end. I feel that that was just town wanting to see a result no matter what the outcome. </p><p> </p><p> So it could also be one of the early voters, my mind points to Zergon tbh,</p><p> </p><p> he seems to play the newbie card every so often, which is kind of similar to the advice you gave me in my first game ever.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If anyone watched me night 1, and you saw someone target me, please say who it was. I believe one was good and one was bad (if there were two), but if only one, someone lied very early in the thread, and they are most definitely not crew.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Interesting.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To be fair, you, Blue and a couple others night talk (for me), I look forward to. I'm getting sleepy, so I won't be around much longer, but for now I give you this.<p> </p><p> Eliphas = 3 (MLT, TSS, EP</p><p> Blue = 3 (Bak, michgcs, EP</p><p> EP = 3 (Bak, Eliphas, michgcs,</p><p> MLT = 5 (IER, lukess, Eliphas, michgcs, BP</p><p> Lukess = 2 (IER, BHK</p><p> Leion = 4 (TSS, IER, Eliphas, BP, </p><p> Showtime = 1 (EP,</p><p> BHK = 1 (EP</p><p> Emark = 1 (BP</p><p> Zaphir? = 1 (BP</p><p> IER = 1 (BHK, </p><p> </p><p> This is todays answers (forgive me if I left anyone out) minus Archer, Bak, and mchgs. Those three I knew would be most everyone's answer, so I asked for anything but them... So IF they said them (and probably half did), I left them off THIS list.</p><p> </p><p> It's at least something of a discussion thing that maybe we can look back on later. Especially after some start coming up scum.</p></div></blockquote><p> Is this a way to form a consensus POE?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I can see that. But scum could have already been on the wagon way before the rush near the end. I feel that that was just town wanting to see a result no matter what the outcome. <p> </p><p> So it could also be one of the early voters, my mind points to Zergon tbh,</p><p> </p><p> he seems to play the newbie card every so often, which is kind of similar to the advice you gave me in my first game ever.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Pretty calm for a newbie as well by my estimation. Not falling into a lot of traps like being overly reactive or defensive. Lot more confidence than I expected personally.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eternal Phoenix" data-cite="Eternal Phoenix" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Don't normally think that way, but you, Two, and Spartan I guess. <strong>Archer too, probably.</strong><p><strong> </strong></p><p> Side note about Archer. He's...too obvious, you know? You don't go that hostile/abrasive as scum. Gets, well, a "lynch this jerk" reaction. It's always possible that it's a scum ploy, but man that'd take some intestinal fortitude.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is interesting considering the majority of the players have him up on the chopping block.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have a question about this claim Showtime, this question may come across as fishing but I just want so clarity on this.<p> </p><p> When you say you drive the ship are you saying you are...</p><p> </p><p> Captain Kirk?</p><p> </p><p> Sulu?</p><p> </p><p> Chekov?</p><p> </p><p> The reason why I ask is because when you claimed I assumed you were either a Sulu or Chekov. But most people read it as you being Kirk. I am not asking for an ability or anything such as that, I am just trying to figure what your position is on the crew. Just being curious here and I know a question like this will probably reflect poorly on me but it might help me figure something out.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I’m no “Captain” at least</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Kind of sad. My list was left out because they already are three top scum. Lol<p> </p><p> But as for the others I guess I can put in my thoughts to some that I am on the fence about</p><p> </p><p> Eliphas - is just kind of blending in, most likely scum. <strong>Still waiting on his answer to my question. </strong></p><p> </p><p> Destiny, EP, Bluestar - the longer the game goes on, the more I am starting to feel these people as scum, granted that two out of three can not really be on, but I was half expecting blue to drop in by now. </p><p> </p><p> As for BHK, he seems to be playing his regular play, asking questions to people, makes me think he is town, at least for now.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm sorry, I must have missed it. What did you ask me again?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I can see that. But scum could have already been on the wagon way before the rush near the end. I feel that that was just town wanting to see a result no matter what the outcome./<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> I'm talking about the early voters and those floating his name out there all day 2.</p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is this a way to form a consensus POE?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's a way to put everyone's thoughts down in a way we can go and analyze. </p><p> </p><p> That way we can see who might have been protecting their scum buddies from suspicion throughout the game.</p><p> </p><p> Also of those who can't come up with a name or only pick low posters</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm not even finding him hostile. Aggressive? Yes.<p> </p><p> But let's be honest we need that.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>I'm actually reminded of his play in Centralia. The one where he called out half the damn scum team and no one listened to him. </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> My gut is telling me that scum tried to seize an opportunity to get rid of a good player while they were mostly absent. </p><p> </p><p> Sound familiar DJ?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I have some comments after a quick re-read of Day 2.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> That's no lie. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Who was the other person?</p><p> </p><p> Also regarding your thoughts on the decision between Archer and MLT, why at the end of the phase were you deciding to vote MLT.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> You further explained you were going to lay your vote down on MLT but as you were typing and I switched to Archer the vote.</p><p> </p><p> So, at the time you made the decision to vote on MLT the vote count was:</p><p> </p><p> Archer - 5</p><p> Two - 3</p><p> MLT - 4</p><p> </p><p> Why with 20 minutes left in the phase were you going to cause a further tie in the vote especially when the wagon you thought had a more sound argument going for it was the one that was actually leading. </p><p> </p><p> Seems strange.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Another curious decision. Your vote was needed. Why not vote; don't want a record for us to look back on? Your vote counts even if you aren't the hammer. Just saying.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Is this true? I keep reading he does this as scum? I assume that he wasn't in the game you are speaking of? Or is he just this aggressive?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also of those who can't come up with a name or only pick low posters</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ugh phones. </p><p> </p><p> What I meant is i'm always suspicious of those that can't come up with more than one name or those that only pick low posters.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's a way to put everyone's thoughts down in a way we can go and analyze. <p> </p><p> That way we can see who might have been protecting their scum buddies from suspicion throughout the game.</p><p> </p><p> Also of those who can't come up with a name or only pick low posters</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not to be the one that cast doubts, but if scum has infiltrated the town core and are viewed as leaders, it can be used to as a way to herd the lynches and control the thread through their presence.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Interesting.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> you know something we don't?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm sorry, I must have missed it. What did you ask me again?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I asked you why I was on your scum list, in fact do you have any explanations to those three you posted?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> I'm talking about the early voters and those floating his name out there all day 2.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We seem to be on the same page then.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is this true? I keep reading he does this as scum? I assume that he wasn't in the game you are speaking of? Or is he just this aggressive?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Considering that was my game, I remember it pretty well. He was an indy hider, called out most of the scum team, but they managed to use the fact he was indy and his aggressiveness against him and got the town to lynch him. </p><p> </p><p> ........</p><p> </p><p> Well he did make the mistake of claiming town after already claiming indy. They turned that on him as well to get the lynch.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Why would you just assume he wasn't in the game I was speaking of btw?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not to be the one that cast doubts, but if scum has infiltrated the town core and are viewed as leaders, it can be used to as a way to herd the lynches and control the thread through their presence.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yep, that's pretty much the game in a nutshell</p>
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