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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Fair enough, but that wasn't my intention at all. I mentioned it because that was the first thing that stuck to mind in the write up, it wasn't about trying to sow any misinformation or any other scum tactic that you might have associate it with. I just gave my opinion on something I felt would be something substantial in the future and I could still be wrong at this stage in the game.<p> </p><p> As someone who revealed too much way too early last game, I think I can't help you with anything role related for now. </p><p> </p><p> But for reads</p><p> </p><p> it would be</p><p> </p><p> lukess11</p><p> Showtime</p><p> michgcs</p><p> </p><p> since all three have posts that feel empty and just agreeing with someone, without offering up anything else.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What about posts disagreeing with someone? This would be one of those</p><p> </p><p> And since I’ve been asked about you:</p><p> </p><p> You’ve been a bit hostile to start things here, could it be reactionary due to pressure? Probably. Also giving yourself a reason to stay under the radar doesn’t seem necessary either. What’s understood doesn’t need to be explained</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What are your thoughts on Leion?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ...I really don't like his initial comment on cults. But he's given some good answers since then. And I think he's being smart in how he's responding, not just putting all the cards on the table at the first sign of pushing from others.</p><p> </p><p> If it were others, I may be more aggressive. But I'm willing to give Leion the benefit of the doubt for the moment.</p><p> </p><p> How about you? Agree/Disagree?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What about posts disagreeing with someone? This would be one of those<p> </p><p> And since I’ve been asked about you:</p><p> </p><p> You’ve been a bit hostile to start things here, could it be reactionary due to pressure? Probably. Also giving yourself a reason to stay under the radar doesn’t seem necessary either. What’s understood doesn’t need to be explained</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Showtime, quick question.</p><p> </p><p> How do you feel about Lukess? Michgcs? Emark?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>...I really don't like his initial comment on cults. But he's given some good answers since then. And I think he's being smart in how he's responding, not just putting all the cards on the table at the first sign of pushing from others.<p> </p><p> If it were others, I may be more aggressive. But I'm willing to give Leion the benefit of the doubt for the moment.</p><p> </p><p> How about you? Agree/Disagree?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't want to say yet, as I want others to give me their reads before they see mine (so it's not just an agreement). I really did want the others to respond but no one has. I had confidence that you would at least, hoping others see it's not so bad, it's ok to respond (unless they just didn't see my question).</p>
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<p>I feel like I posted my thoughts on Leion in the last post I don’t really have more</p><p> </p><p>

The other mich I don’t feel poorly about yet...he has two out of context posts and that’s it. On day one. That’s extremely normal for GDS games. Maybe would like to see more posts but what he does have isn’t raising anything to me.</p><p> </p><p>

Emark if we wanna go with someone today is probably the one I’m most comfortable with. Not been feeling the tone of his posts and as opposed to Leion hasn’t really contributed back either.</p>

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<p>I ran a 5k today excuse me for reading Lukess as Leion <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I have zero thoughts on him at the moment. Extremely middle of the pack</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I feel like I posted my thoughts on Leion in the last post I don’t really have more<p> </p><p> The other mich I don’t feel poorly about yet...he has two out of context posts and that’s it. On day one. That’s extremely normal for GDS games. Maybe would like to see more posts but what he does have isn’t raising anything to me.</p><p> </p><p> Emark if we wanna go with someone today is probably the one I’m most comfortable with. Not been feeling the tone of his posts and as opposed to Leion hasn’t really contributed back either.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He asked about Lukes, not Leion. I asked about Leion and I see your answer.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't want to say yet, as I want others to give me their reads before they see mine (so it's not just an agreement). I really did want the others to respond but no one has. I had confidence that you would at least, hoping others see it's not so bad, it's ok to respond (unless they just didn't see my question).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's fair, I respect that. </p><p> </p><p> Along those lines, I'm still waiting on answers from The Archer. I don't like the lame duck post from him and disappearing act. Regardless of alignment, it only benefits scum.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Opulent" data-cite="Opulent" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don’t disagree with those names. However, it’s unlikely for the whole scum team to have similar styles in the same game. Any other typical scum tells you’ve found in others? <p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That I can agree on, as for other scum tells, I would be wary of vets who hadn't posted anything yet, I really can't say much, since there is nothing to analyze until they post, but the longer they wait, the scummier they look. </p><p> </p><p> Specifically,</p><p> </p><p> Bluestar</p><p> Paws</p><p> </p><p> Archer is another one, I would consider but since he had already he is not at the same level as those two above, albeit it was only one word. So you can say he is still up there. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What about posts disagreeing with someone? This would be one of those<p> </p><p> And since I’ve been asked about you:</p><p> </p><p> You’ve been a bit hostile to start things here, could it be reactionary due to pressure? Probably. Also giving yourself a reason to stay under the radar doesn’t seem necessary either. What’s understood doesn’t need to be explained</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I feel it is far easier for scum to continue on agreeing on something rather than trying to argue a point. </p><p> </p><p> Well, What did I do to seem hostile?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That I can agree on, as for other scum tells, I would be wary of vets who hadn't posted anything yet, I really can't say much, since there is nothing to analyze until they post, but the longer they wait, the scummier they look. <p> </p><p> Specifically,</p><p> </p><p> Bluestar</p><p> Paws</p><p> </p><p> Archer is another one, I would consider but since he had already <strong>posted</strong> he is not at the same level as those two above, albeit it was only one word. So you can say he is still up there. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> EBWOP</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The other mich I don’t feel poorly about yet...he has two out of context posts and that’s it. On day one. That’s extremely normal for GDS games. Maybe would like to see more posts but what he does have isn’t raising anything to me.<p> </p><p> Emark if we wanna go with someone today is probably the one I’m most comfortable with. Not been feeling the tone of his posts and as opposed to Leion hasn’t really contributed back either.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I ran a 5k today excuse me for reading Lukess as Leion <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> I have zero thoughts on him at the moment. Extremely middle of the pack</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> For Lukess/Michgcs, this post sounds like you disagree with what his thoughts/reads are for the moment. If that is the case: Do you think Leion is purposefully wrong? Or just misreading?</p><p> </p><p> And could you point out which Emark posts in particular had a tone you weren't a fan of?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't get it.. Does anyone stay around longer than five minutes before just disappearing from the conversation without any warning whatsoever (Hey guys, going to work/dinner/watch something on TV, etc.)? When did this become normal here?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Okay, thank you for that. I thought I was just going crazy sitting here waiting for a potential response from people.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Okay, thank you for that. I thought I was just going crazy sitting here waiting for a potential response from people.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> To add: When I see this happen to people, it also makes me feel like the question might have caught them. And rather than admitting not having an answer (or giving a bad/scummy one) people would rather hide and give themselves a lot longer to try to figure out a clever answer.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>...I really don't like his initial comment on cults. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, What did I do to seem hostile?</div></blockquote><p> You didn't sound hostile, you sounded clear and stated your thoughts was all. HE sounded hostile.</p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For Lukess/Michgcs, this post sounds like you disagree with what his thoughts/reads are for the moment. If that is the case: Do you think Leion is purposefully wrong? Or just misreading?<p> </p><p> And could you point out which Emark posts in particular had a tone you weren't a fan of?</p></div></blockquote>I could, but I'm not going to do this for him. He should be answering this.<p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To add: When I see this happen to people, it also makes me feel like the question might have caught them. And rather than admitting not having an answer (or giving a bad/scummy one) people would rather hide and give themselves a lot longer to try to figure out a clever answer.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Probably are, but with last game doing the same things, it's hard to tell... How many people do we have to mislynch before people start playing and at least giving those that are active a heads up (Like IER's post just did) so we aren't waiting here for 45 minutes waiting for an answer they aren't going to answer, or at least anytime soon.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To add: When I see this happen to people, it also makes me feel like the question might have caught them. And rather than admitting not having an answer (or giving a bad/scummy one) people would rather hide and give themselves a lot longer to try to figure out a clever answer.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Some of us have 6 year olds that demand attention and quite frankly he outranks the whole lot of you. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I feel like scum typically have a greater concern and focus on Indy/Cult/SK. Whenever I see someone who seems more concerned about figuring out if a cult exist (or about an SK) than finding mafia, I tend to think it's because of a conflicting interest. Or scum being afraid of the chaos that those roles tend to bring.</p><p> </p><p> With Leion, his very first post was pointing out the potential of a cult. So it felt, to me, like that is where his priorities were focused on. He's done other stuff since then which make me feel better about him but he definitely started off on a bad note in my mind.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Some of us have 6 year olds that demand attention and quite frankly he outranks the whole lot of you. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have needs too, Rev. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you weren't caught up, and were just posting a "hello, I'm here" I missed that. I felt like there were a few things you (and anyone else that posts) could or should comment on, if nothing other than to say "Well, I don't really have anything, or any reads, or whatever the current mafia literature is, to discuss as far as the game goes..." however you want to word it really. It's like I said to Leion (and it wasn't just meant to him), obviously on day 1, I normally don't expect to have anything concrete or anyone else to either, but I do like conversation that we can go back to later in the game. See what's changed, or stayed the same, and if Destiny is still hinting at the same lame role.<p> </p><p> I seen a couple of posts referencing me, and the desire to have more to read when they came back (but I hadn't posted yet), and so I tried not to let them down. Doing my best to try and engage everyone in discussion, be it by playful nudging, asking their thoughts, etc. This is in reference to the Multiquote.</p><p> </p><p> Right now I'm kind of doing what others are doing for a while... watching to see what happens. An interesting development has come up that I didn't see coming, and I know that shouldn't surprise me, but it actually did. What's your impressions on Leion at this point?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> As trite as it may sound, I haven't found anything worth commenting on so far, and that includes reads, however bleak or minuscule they may be. I like to start compiling meager reads at the least after the phase is done, when things start to get a bit more tangible. Lynch or no lynch.</p><p> </p><p> In my mind, jury is still out about Leion. At a glance, I'd say he hasn't posted anything that would incite me to get a scumread on him. I would say I'm curious about The Archer but that's about it.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I feel like scum typically have a greater concern and focus on Indy/Cult/SK. Whenever I see someone who seems more concerned about figuring out if a cult exist (or about an SK) than finding mafia, I tend to think it's because of a conflicting interest. Or scum being afraid of the chaos that those roles tend to bring.<p> </p><p> With Leion, his very first post was pointing out the potential of a cult. So it felt, to me, like that is where his priorities were focused on. He's done other stuff since then which make me feel better about him but he definitely started off on a bad note in my mind.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> /nod, thanks for the explanation.</p><p> </p><p> I didn't find his post regarding that too off-putting as I read that part the same way. </p><p> </p><p> I definitely didn't find him aggressive in the least, which makes me wonder about those that mentioned him being aggressive. In fact while reading yesterday I found how agreeable and just overly accommodating he was to everyone else more noteworthy.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have needs too, Rev. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> lol</p><p> </p><p> Seriously though on that subject most of the time I'm doing family stuff and popping in to post is way down the list. </p><p> </p><p> So if it's 4 hours between posts for me, you know why.</p><p> </p><p> Me breaking my phone and using my daughters for the last 3 weeks hasn't f'n helped with the posting either. Low budget phones for teenagers suck.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For Lukess/Michgcs, this post sounds like you disagree with what his thoughts/reads are for the moment. If that is the case: Do you think Leion is purposefully wrong? Or just misreading?<p> </p><p> And could you point out which Emark posts in particular had a tone you weren't a fan of?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you are making confident reads day one (and one for a guy with two posts not even related to the game content) it just seems like reaching. Everything is a shit in the dark so I don’t dislike the initiative, but if you’re so confident in your actions this early then i automatically raise an eyebrow.</p><p> </p><p> Not sure if it’s purposeful but more like overextending</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you are making confident reads day one (and one for a guy with two posts not even related to the game content) it just seems like reaching. Everything is a shot in the dark so I don’t dislike the initiative, but if you’re so confident in your actions this early then i automatically raise an eyebrow.<p> </p><p> Not sure if it’s purposeful but more like overextending</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> EBWOP</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I ran a 5k today excuse me for reading Lukess as Leion <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Congratulations on the run. I'm looking to do one soon. What time did you get? As for those yet to post, it's unlike Paws or BlueStar to avoid the thread even when scum so I assume they're busy.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>lol<p> </p><p> Seriously though on that subject most of the time I'm doing family stuff and popping in to post is way down the list. </p><p> </p><p> So if it's 4 hours between posts for me, you know why.</p><p> </p><p> Me breaking my phone and using my daughters for the last 3 weeks hasn't f'n helped with the posting either. Low budget phones for teenagers suck.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, I'm not asking for anyone to treat mafia like your biggest priority. Just that, if you're going to post, maybe stick around 10-15 minutes afterwards so if someone responds you can follow up. But honestly, my nagging was more directed at people that tend to play less actively and will only post a few times a day phase.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you are making confident reads day one (and one for a guy with two posts not even related to the game content) it just seems like reaching. Everything is a shot in the dark so I don’t dislike the initiative, but if you’re so confident in your actions this early then i automatically raise an eyebrow.<p> </p><p> Not sure if it’s purposeful but more like overextending.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thank you for your response, I understand your reasoning.</p>
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