CornellVerse 2020

[Makhai]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Editor6" data-cite="Editor6" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46550" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If this happens, it won't be in the U.S. And in keeping with the C-verse being full of things that are <em>like</em> this real-world thing, but not <em>exactly</em> like the real-world thing... I think the UK makes the most sense. The developing pool of talent and 21CW's expansion into Europe means some folks are gonna get left behind. Just find the money man, get a couple of defections, and there's your UK-based AEW type.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The UK and Europe are also completely torn down and in desperate need of options. Wanted to play a UK Isles save for a while but 21CW is just so... boring and monolithic. And my other options are backyard feds that haven't changed since like... 2005. I love this idea.</p>

[Makhai]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Juce" data-cite="Juce" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46550" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would like to see CGC bought by USPW and become their development company.<p> </p><p> TCW would be great rebuilt in the image of a real world AEW. Maybe some rebranding as Total Wrestling (I love that logo). They are a strong performance based product and #2 in America while working with some small global companies.</p><p> </p><p> SWF I would like to see be taken down by the FBI and drop to a lowly cult company under new ownership. Maybe a youth movement with some smaller stars than normal. The history around this promotion I don't want to see lost honestly so trying to rebuild the company around some new philosophies might be a lot of fun.</p><p> </p><p> Swoop McCarthy coming to America for SWF or TCW would be preferred by me.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Swoop and Lover coming into SWF would be the shot in the arm that the company really needs. Combine this with a Tramp Division and they'd be back in business.</p>

[ChairToFace]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ShaunGBD" data-cite="ShaunGBD" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46550" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Let's be honest. Their gonna be a c-verse aew. Newer company, tv deal, ppv deal, smaller roster where the player can make the company their own. O yeah it writes itself.<p> </p><p> Also TCW will be out of business</p><p> </p><p> SWF will fall and be crippled after the FBI takes down the company.</p></div></blockquote><p> Why do people always see TCW as dying? They literally just got bought by a large toy company, have a large number of great and young main eventers and other rising stars, and they're the workrate company. They're around to stay.</p><p> </p><p> Also, TCW was the AEW of the CVerse, back when it debuted as HGC. Granted they had different products, but they had a similar debut. They used 2 stars from SWF, and they had a large number of young indie talent, some of whom nobody knew who they were until they became stars for HGC. Even Jack Bruce started in HGC where he became a successful midcard act before going to SWF.</p><p> </p><p> I think SWF will either be on the verge of the FBI's investigation messing them up, or the scandal will have already occurred. They have plenty of young stars in RIPW, plus some on the main roster who just need some grooming to put them on top. Spencer Spade, Scythe, Hollywood Bret Starr, and Mainstream Hernandez, are just some of them.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Chikbot" data-cite="Chikbot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46550" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>-Sorry to steal from the CV2019 mod that came out recently, but a Lucha Underground style company could definitely fun for a new sort of playstyle, maybe SOTBPW ends up getting a famous director on board through Champagne Lover and it goes from there? or it ends up being its own sort of entity</div></blockquote><p> You mean leveleuks 2018 mod? Would certainly be interesting, though I don't want everything from that mod to be made canon. Fun for a mod, but not good for canon.</p><p> </p><p> Also, I don't think Adam will take any ideas from mods. Though there are some interesting scenarios out there, he probably won't use any.</p>

[Makhai]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Steven James" data-cite="Steven James" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46550" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why do people always see TCW as dying? They literally just got bought by a large toy company, have a large number of great and young main eventers and other rising stars, and they're the workrate company. They're around to stay.<p> </p><p> Also, TCW was the AEW of the CVerse, back when it debuted as HGC. Granted they had different products, but they had a similar debut. They used 2 stars from SWF, and they had a large number of young indie talent, some of whom nobody knew who they were until they became stars for HGC. Even Jack Bruce started in HGC where he became a successful midcard act before going to SWF.</p><p> </p><p> I think SWF will either be on the verge of the FBI's investigation messing them up, or the scandal will have already occurred. They have plenty of young stars in RIPW, plus some on the main roster who just need some grooming to put them on top. Spencer Spade, Scythe, Hollywood Bret Starr, and Mainstream Hernandez, are just some of them.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> You mean leveleuks 2018 mod? Would certainly be interesting, though I don't want everything from that mod to be made canon. Fun for a mod, but not good for canon.</p><p> </p><p> Also, I don't think Adam will take any ideas from mods. Though there are some interesting scenarios out there, he probably won't use any.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He took QAW. I wouldn't rule anything out.</p>

[Derek B]

<p>I always like speculation about the Cornellverse, it's legit my favourite part of the game and seeing what has changed between game versions is my favourite part of every single TEW. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I also change my mind all the time on what I'd like to see in the Cornellverse. The game world is less globalised than the real world and has so many major companies that it's so different from the real world, which has untl recent years pretty much had one global brand, a few significant but not major companies and loads of indies.</p><p> </p><p>

I would love to see the Cornellverse suffer a bit overall at the top end, have a few companies lose some ground over the years but perhaps be more global at the same time. The SWF seems primed for a fall from grace... in 16 they have an old roster and what seems to be some unhappy younger talent. USPW seems primed to replace SWF as the top entertainment company in the world and has already been cherry picking talents, though with the TEW20 changes to broadcasters, it would seem Reverie is more of a Netflix/Amazon Prime type deal so they may have a slightly limited ability to reach fans. TCW seem set to continue as the top performance based company in North America and have hopefully built up a new generation of stars for their side.</p><p> </p><p>

If CGC were to die (I'd miss them), I'd love to see their stars spread out a bit while 4C rise to the role of an ECW style company in Canada. NOTBPW seem set primed to lose their shine a bit too, with so many veterans who could be retired by now. I kinda hope for some new companies up there and perhaps a NOTBPW name change to coincide with the Stones retiring.... I really don't like the name. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

SOTBPW (also a bad name) look set to dominate Mexico unless something has gone horribly wrong. I can't imagine what it would be, but it would be great to see OLLIE rise up to compete with them too. The real life rise (and fall) of Lucha Underground has made the scene more easilya accessible so it would be good to have some decent sized companies in there to mix things up a bit. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> More new companies here would also be nice, especially for some of the new features that have been announced. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

The UK needs new companies sooooo badly. Whether that be a 21CW version of NXT or some spiritual successors to ROF, I don't know. But more companies here and across Europe would be great. I'd even be down for an alliance over here to help spread a lot of talent out and help them get over even without TV. Great things could happen. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Japan could go in so many directions and it's potentially great. I would love to see a BHOTWG international expansion to mirror NJPW's rise, with someone like Koshiro Ino perhaps helping that thanks to his time in the US. With a few other stars brought in they could be great. PGHW seems to have passed their peak with their top stars so they could have fallen a bit as they build up a new generation. I hope WLW and GCG have helped to make the Modern Japan alliance into something more than it is... with junior and heavyweight brands packed with stars they seem to just need more investment and expansion. GCG seem like one of the companies over there set to actually grow and I'm excited to see them do that. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

The rest of the world I know less about but I will still dive in to see how it goes in future. India will be fascinating to see what Adam has planned there. Australia could do with some fun things happening but I have no idea what.</p><p> </p><p>

I can't wait to get a hold of the new Cornellverse to see what happens. And to see what changes and additions I'll be putting into the CV97 too. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Self]

<p>I'd like CGC to either change significantly or close its doors. Definitely feels like the narrative has been heading that way, and the roster has felt pretty stale for a long time.</p><p> </p><p>

I just hope there would be some alternate TV promotions to fill the void. Small. No more than 60 minutes of TV per week.</p>

[praguepride]

<p>Oohhh boy time for speculations. I would love to see SWF fall from grace and become the TCW to USPW's SFW. Their talent retires en mass, their top rising stars get poached by USPW leaving them with a legacy, a pile of money, and a roster full of less popular but very seasoned veterans.</p><p> </p><p>

I could see a combination of them pulling some big name out of retirement plus raiding the rising talent coming out of RIPW and so they have a roster of hot young potential combined with a few over the hill vets. They are primed to rise </p><p> </p><p>

EXCEPT USPW is CRUSHING it. USPW is the SWF from 2010 with top talent and top dollar. However now is a good time for their weak backstage to rear its ugly head. I always thought booking for a top company should be harder than a smaller company and adding a nasty web of rivalries and ego would make UPSW very difficult to use correctly. Nobody wants to lose to anybody, outrageous salaries threatening to spiral etc. </p><p> </p><p>

TCW I could see it dropping further and licking its wounds. Perhaps its a great haven for talent abandoning USPW or SWF and while they aren't nearly as big they are a dark horse threatening to unseat USPW and SWF as top dog if they can navigate right. Once again they have the talent but not the money.</p><p> </p><p>

I think the indy scene could use a bit more shake up. With a flood of talent coming down from the wars at egos of the top tier the cults and alliances should break up into two rival factions. Get a "West coast vs. East coast" theme going on with some major drama enveloping the indy leagues. This provides a lot of opportunity for shake up and makes the politics of the lower leagues a bit more interesting and important. It was always a little boring politically on the minor leagues due to not being involved in "Wars" yet and just having one big alliance. Loop in Canada as well (I think that the distinction between Canada vs. US wrestling is disappearing fast with the rise and spread of the internet and wider audience accessibility.)</p><p> </p><p>

Down in Mexico I think SOTPW needs to be both broken up and renamed. SOTBPW had its shot at glory and with the chaos in the US market perhaps a joint merger of OLLIE and MPW creates real competition on the southern border that kind of fills in the TCW "technical wrestling" spot as opposed to SOTBPW's "sports entertainment" package.</p><p> </p><p>

In the UK I think it would be a shame to pass up Brexit commentary and have a big rivalry between two either existing or newly formed companies, one that is focused entirely on "proper British wrestling" while the other is in an alliance with some European companies doing some nice talent trades. </p><p> </p><p>

Beyond that I confess I haven't really tracked Japan/Europe/Austrailia so its hard for.</p><p> </p><p>

Some new ways to shake things up would be to add Africa to the scene. It can be the new Australia which is brand new market with brand new political/worker scene to explore.</p>

[lavelleuk]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="James The Animator" data-cite="James The Animator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46550" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I really want to see Championship Wrestling from Wigan open with Walter Morgan as the owner. The concept of that company is so interesting to me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I had Dark Angel open them in my 2018 C-Verse mod, but at one point it was going to be Walter Morgan. He is on the roster though.</p>

[ChairToFace]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lavelleuk" data-cite="lavelleuk" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46550" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I had Dark Angel open them in my 2018 C-Verse mod, but at one point it was going to be Walter Morgan. He is on the roster though.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I had Walter Morgan come and wrestle for UKCW in my mod. Didn't make him the owner, but I think he is the booker.</p><p> </p><p> I feel like one big change by 2020 will be BHOTWG's preference of their heavyweights over their junior heavyweights. They don't have a lot of figurehead worthy heavyweights, aside from Kikkawa, who is on the verge of retirement. The ones who could be potential figureheads such as Matthew Keith or Takimura are still young and not ready for it yet. I think they'll put more focus on their junior heavyweight division and might raid companies like WLW and EXODUS 2010 to bulk it up.</p>

[LoganRodzen]

<p>I think a PDF “study guide” with new stories, characters, promotions, etc. would be nice to have to go along with TEW. I know people like to discover the new stuff, I do too, but I’d also like a guide that has a few details and changes to the game world. It obviously doesn’t have to include everything, but I think a PDF similar to the old CVerse website would be really nice to have.</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/cornellverse/index.html" rel="external nofollow">http://www.greydogsoftware.com/cornellverse/index.html</a></p>

[SidHickenbottom]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="James The Animator" data-cite="James The Animator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46550" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I really want to see Championship Wrestling from Wigan open with Walter Morgan as the owner. The concept of that company is so interesting to me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've done just this in saves. Would love to see it become canon.</p>

[Historian]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="praguepride" data-cite="praguepride" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46550" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Some new ways to shake things up would be to add Africa to the scene. It can be the new Australia which is brand new market with brand new political/worker scene to explore.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Africa won't be in the game as a playable market -- but India will be! So the game world is continuing to expand.</p>

[ChairToFace]

Africa won't be in the game as a playable market -- but India will be! So the game world is continuing to expand.

 

Plus Africa would be kinda dead. I get that this is the CVerse and not the real world, but even filling Africa with promotions in a fake world would be to unrealistic to me.

[cappyboy]

Plus Africa would be kinda dead. I get that this is the CVerse and not the real world, but even filling Africa with promotions in a fake world would be to unrealistic to me.

 

And even trying to come up with who could open places on the proverbial dark continent is a challenge. African Earthquake would be a possibility due to his run in UCR. Mohammed El Yaggoudi and Wael Hossam would have the pull in their respective countries but didn't have all that good a time in pro wrestling and would therefore be unlikely to want their own promotions. Bigger Dan Ewe wouldn't exactly be a great role model for South Africans to learn from because of his rep for sloppiness. And if you were going to model the real world in an African C-Verse, South Africa's the country where I've heard of show-based pro wrestling like we'd be booking faring best. India was a much better addition that Africa would be.

[Dorian]

<p>I think the following stuff will probably happen. Before you read further, I'll treat it as if "this is happening". I have no actually idea, it is just easier for me to write it out in that fashion.</p><p> </p><p>

- Canada -</p><p>

I'm Canadian, so, I'll start here. I could honestly see CGC riding into the sunset or transforming into the development league of NOTBPW. I would probably guess they'll fall from grace pretty hard during this phase. A far cry from their previous stuff.</p><p> </p><p>

NOTBPW will be struggling. Also probably be second only to the also struggling USPW. NOTBPW will be struggling because they won't have anyone to carry on the legacy of the previous stars that have retired or become back stage hands. They've got some promising guys though.</p><p> </p><p>

4C becomes the defacto #2 for Canadian promotion. They'll be riding a huge way, with Huge de Aske as their top star, who still amazingly hasn't left the company (has loyalty with them). He gets booked elsewhere so much that he doesn't feel the need to leave his position with 4C.</p><p> </p><p>

All Canada Pro is still the #4 spot, but in terms of male only, it is #3. They'll be a solid company that has managed to secure a lot of young and talented guys that everyone can raid on.</p><p> </p><p>

As you can guess, I'm suggesting another company for #3, and that would be the four year old Canadian Women's Federation. They'll be the top pick of the country and with their wealth of amazing talent, with their leading star being someone brand new (or just Kate Avatar).</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

- USA -</p><p>

I could run down all of the US, but I'll just stick to the particulars. BTW, women companies are probably the same. With AAA being the best, though I would say they probably have a minor TV deal now.</p><p> </p><p>

USPW - Still #1, but all the backstage stuff has finally reared their ugly heads and whoever takes control needs to deal with that mess. It will be downright nasty to deal with. They have probably fallen back down to National from being International all this time.</p><p> </p><p>

TCW - Formerly the #3, they have risen to #2. This is because the Toy Company (forget its name), has managed to make it a place where it is all about the action in the ring. They won't be a National level #2, but a Cult level #2.</p><p> </p><p>

SWF - They are reeling from the IRS scandal that will likely see Eric Eisen in charge of the company and doing a pretty poor job of it. After his dad and brother are in jail. It will be a struggle for any booker to deal with Eric's dumb ideas and instance of being the person on top. And yes, this means, they've also dropped to Cult.</p><p> </p><p>

CZCW - A solid #4, they are on the cusp of being the #3 in the US of A, but like in every game that you start in 2016, lost all of their top talents. In the four years since, they've built up they've managed to prop up their company by having the best tag division in the world (led by Malloy & Storm who are now clean). You'll find the best tag teams in CZCW.</p><p> </p><p>

Burning Hammer Of America - Even after the tsunami that damaged Japan's economy and the embezzlement that destroyed their finances, Burning Hammer still is so bloody successful in Japan that it branches out with their Burning Hammer of America. Burning Hammer of America will just be starting and a regional company. I'd even have it be left as a blank slate so that a person can pick it as the starting company. However, if you don't pick it, it quickly fills it up with all the people that would work best in that company.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

- Mexico -</p><p>

We're probably going to see SOTBPW have a retirement of Champagne Lover that halts the progress of them making it to the International stage and OLLIE managing to drag them back down to within striking distance.</p><p> </p><p>

OLLIE meanwhile has managed to pick up the slack thanks to the signing of El Mitico Jr and El Hijo del Neutron. The two's tag team and subsequent break up has been the hottest thing in wrestling and has catapulted OLLIE to the main stream. </p><p> </p><p>

CILL is in a heated battle with EMLL for 3rd. EMLL has been raided time and time again (OLLIE says thanks), but EMLL just continually manages to restock to CILL's utter disbelief. I'd honestly have EMLL have the best dojo in the world for how they manage to continually restock the company.</p><p> </p><p>

As for the first female only company in Mexico, I would probably make it full of unknowns and still struggling to find its place in the landscape.</p><p> </p><p>

- Japan -</p><p>

Burning Hammer of Japan - As mentioned earlier, Burning Hammer Of The Wrestling Gods has been hit hard thanks to both the tsunami and the embezzlement scandal. Though PGHW is closer and gone to a less intense (but still not modern system) after Burning Hammer's Kaneko was outed (17 or 18), his successor (whatever genius is there) has managed to pull them out of financial disarray. The biggest problem with the Japanese division is the bloat. Heavyweights (new), Juniors, Heavyweight Tag Team (new), Junior Tag Team, Openweight, World (now umbrella title), World Tag Team (now umbrella title), Joshi, Joshi Tag Team. There's just so much going on that you are drowning in the bloat.</p><p> </p><p>

*As an aside. Yes, I did in fact make Burning Hammer run into problem the WWE has right now instead of USPW*</p><p> </p><p>

PGHW - as was said earlier, they made things less intense, leading to less injuries and have gotten really lucky with some high quality youngster out of their dojo to get back to being the solid #2 to BHOTWG.</p><p> </p><p>

WLW - Has arrived as the #3 of Japan and is in a dead heat with the other two, while still promoting their own brand that has suddenly become widely popular in Japan.</p><p> </p><p>

BCG - I have bad news for GCG fans, BCG bought it out. That's literally all I got for an entry here. Kudo wasn't able to bring GCG back out into a new era, and eventually dragged the company so far down that BCG has managed to take it over and I'm just not sure whether or not to think if the company has </p><p> </p><p>

5SSW - To the dismay of of 5SSW, with Burning Hammer opening up a Joshi division, quite a few talents left them to go to the bigger stage. They still have a solid following and haven't fallen much, but they aren't where they were before. Also WILLOW opened up and have started becoming a competition to them.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

- British Isles/Europe -</p><p>

21CW has branched out and now not only dominates the UK, but also dominates all of Europe as well. They are currently securing their place. Fighting a war on both fronts has 21CW actually losing to both sides #2s, but if they stopped and took care of one, they'd turn around and wipe out the other pretty easily.</p><p> </p><p>

SNP - Hey, remember these guys? They've actually become the #2 company in the UK and are actually slowly chipping away at 21CW. They've gained such a following in the UK, it is honestly hard to see anyone else taking the #2 from them.</p><p> </p><p>

EWA - They've made a partnership with SNP (for the time being) as the #2 in Europe to chip away from 21CW over in Europe and have 21CW fight a two front war and losing on both side. Just like with SNP, there's just no way EWA ever leaves the scene because of how rabid their fan base is for them.</p><p> </p><p>

I ain't writing about Australia, because I'll be honest, I've never played one of the feds there.</p><p> </p><p>

TL;DR - This is just my thoughts on what I think might happen. I just think we're in for some interesting times with 2020.</p>

[praguepride]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46550" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Burning Hammer Of America</div></blockquote>m<p> I really like a Japanese invasion angle with US market being weak and ripe for another country to get a toehold in.</p>

[shawn michaels]

Why does everyone assume the IRS scandal will end up with anyone in jail? That's the most predictable way to go and I hope it does not happen. Imo they never really find evidence against Eisen and remain undercover for the rest of their careers without ever touching SWF. Or the cops pull the plug on the whole operation cause no evidence and they go rogue and end up chasing ghosts for the rest of their lives.

 

Richard Risen could still be the owner by this point, but is preparing the future and keeps Jerry as a Booker. Eric has taken the time to perfect his craft and is now performing better and in the middle of a hot angle where he is world champ (to appease the fact that Jerry is booking they turn him into company focus) and is leading a super over heel stable.

 

Skull DeBones is still around, much like Taker, for example and is undefeated on their main ppv. While already being supremely veteran, (pun intended) he still gets the job done and will wrestle for SWF as long as they pay him nice and treat him well.

 

SWF finally managed to overcome recent backstage dramas and used their dev territory to create new stars, riding in a wave of success and targeting USPW for their #1 spot, or already having it. They create their own network, an investment that ends up being highly successful, against all odds.

 

Meanwhile, USPW is either #1 about to be overtaken or a close #2. Backstage drama finally caught to them, as well as a boom in the US market that is making the competition stronger. So they are either stealing some high profile names or making them pay more to retain them. Despite this USPW is still a force to be taken into account and the wrestling boom running around has made the battle for supremacy much more interesting.

 

TCW continues to struggle. Mainstream fans can't buy into their ring focus shtick and they never recaptured those key demo viewers. The toy company, however, seeing the opportunity to make money, with wrestling becoming a hot commodity, decides to increase the investment and push for better results.

 

Tommy Cornell has finished his work in England and decided to return to the US to enjoy his last years of wrestling in USA, where it is paying off to be a wrestler right now. Against all odds he buries the hatchet with his old boss and ecides to sign a big lucrative deal with SWF for one final great run. (That could last for years, given his talent.) He lost the world title to Eric and his evil stable and after being out of the title picture for a while, he is ready to get his revenge and try and become world champ again.

 

Meanwhile, CZCW has tremendously evolved, mixing some mainstream features on their product, like focusing more in promos, while keeping the core of their cult concept and has overtaken TCW to mow be the #3 act.

 

Japan is in full recovery after the Tsunami, as their companies look to expand into the hotbed the US currently are, to speed that process.

 

I'd build it sort of like this. CZCW surpassing TCW as the latter become more and more what the former used to be, while the Coastal Zone finally finds some success. Meanwhile USPW and SWF would take advantage of the wrestling boom to go all out to war for that #1 spot.

 

Edit: also, in this scenario, India would be a country where foreign wrestling is highly popular but their own companies struggle. To counter this, Indian investors start to throw big money deals to foreign veterans, the has evens in the twilight of their careers, or even formerly retired, to try and use them to boost popularity of Indian programming and put some homegrown talent over.

[TheOtherJamesCameron]

Seems like I am in the minority here, but I will be devastated of SWF is devastated by the IRS thing. I am very much hoping that does not factor in to anything. Ideally I would like to see Jerry as owner (perhaps Richard is dead? at least out of the business) and someone like Christian Faith or Phil Vibert in as booker and keeping them in contention for the top spot.

 

Some kind of work rate alliance between TCW, PGHW, and NOTBPW would also be awesome. Something I routinely put together when I play with any of those 3 companies.

[shawn michaels]

Seems like I am in the minority here, but I will be devastated of SWF is devastated by the IRS thing. I am very much hoping that does not factor in to anything. Ideally I would like to see Jerry as owner (perhaps Richard is dead? at least out of the business) and someone like Christian Faith or Phil Vibert in as booker and keeping them in contention for the top spot.

 

Some kind of work rate alliance between TCW, PGHW, and NOTBPW would also be awesome. Something I routinely put together when I play with any of those 3 companies.

 

I don't think you are in the minority, I usually talk to a lot of people that love to book SWF and would be equally devastated as well. But I see a vocal minority here always talking about it. This not a criticism of any sorts, everyone has their opinion and while I know a scandal breaking would make for interesting cannon, it not happening, Eisen getting away with it and these agents staying stuck in the limbo of wrestling would make for even better folklore. Just the diaries around them staying in the game would open so many possibilities.

 

As for SWF itself, it would be great to see them at #1 again, or at least very close to it. I always saw them as the dominant force of wrestling and their risky but mainstream product is something that would be conquering fans in the CVerse for sure. So I hope that they got it together and that guys like Scythe and the myth that shall not be named have finally broken into the main roster and that the whole universe itself is fairly renewed, while the veterans are clinging around, like any other wrestler would, in whatever place pays them more. Meaning expansion with brand new characters to counter the aging stars, that would still be around, regardless of where, instead of just retiring all the old guys (cause this is wrestling and no one ever really goes out on top, or rarely so, so they drag on) and adding the new ones.

 

Fresh stars are needed, but I also see the potential of some of these old guys trying to expand their careers in new places. India among them, but not limited to it only.

 

I'd also love to see CZCW finally jumping in size and suddenly becoming a force to at least be kept under watch. I would put some decline in Canadian Wrestling, keep the Mexican scene fairly stale and maybe get Australia gaining unexpected momentum with homegrown stars while the dust in Japan has settled from the Tsunami and they are finally working their way up, while still far from being into new glory days.

 

Anyway, SWF has so much potential to improve their state from the last game and provide actual war between powerhouses, them being SWF and USPW at least. As far I've seen, it still is one of the more popular US companies among the players i've spoken too. But that also only means that and nothing more. But it would provide for a great scenario, imo.

 

As for Eric Eisen, regardless of who takes over or if Richard is still there, him dedicating himself to his craft, improving and becoming a sensation would be one of those "against all odds stories" no one would see coming.

 

Regardless of what might happen, I'm fairly intrigued by how everything will look in the 2020 CV.

[ChairToFace]

Edit: also, in this scenario, India would be a country where foreign wrestling is highly popular but their own companies struggle. To counter this, Indian investors start to throw big money deals to foreign veterans, the has evens in the twilight of their careers, or even formerly retired, to try and use them to boost popularity of Indian programming and put some homegrown talent over.

I wonder if in this scenario a situation similar to Jinder Mahal's WWE Title reign would occur. The major American promotions realize India is a growing market, so they try to appeal to the people there. Perhaps USPW hires Kashmir Singh and makes him their world champion. SWF might go on a scouting expedition, find a guy in India, and rush him through the training school and he skips RIPW, going straight to the main roster and gets a big push right away, going after the world title. However, his rush to the top is clear, as his skills are mostly poor, though he is decent at promos and looks like an Indian god.

 

All of this results in a time of poor booking in both companies, similar to real life with WWE's poor booking. TCW takes advantage, positioning themselves perfectly and stealing frustrated fans away from SWF and USPW. They also steal a few unhappy workers. Other companies decide to push themselves in order to benefit from this. MAW begins airing their shows on the CVerse equivalent of YouTube. They and the COTT are presenting their old school style of wrestling, similar to the NWA with their weekly Power show. CZCW also shows their high flying product, and might even bring back women's wrestling. They might even be inter-gender. Either way, they're rising. I wouldn't be surprised to see BHOTWG expanding into America, similar to NJPW. 21CW might use Tommy Cornell's appeal to further expand into America.

 

Meanwhile in India, I think this could result in local wrestling being not quite so popular. There might be 2-4 local/small promotions throughout the country. 2 could be warring promotions using a sports entertainment style similar to SWF and USPW. Those would probably be the most popular companies in the country. Another promotion might be using a realistic style of wrestling, similar to King's Road or Strong Style. The final promotion could be using a unique product styled to India. It could be an underdog with the tools to rise.

[Historian]

I've been thinking about the CVerse a fair amount lately in my free time and trying to figure out what I would do if I was in Adam's unenviable (or perhaps enviable, depending on your personality) position of getting to design the whole thing. I've posted in this thread several times, but my thoughts recently have revolved around the big three in America and India.

 

USPW

I see Allen Packer continuing to expand USPW programming. I think USPW is in a full blown brand split at this point to provide more programming for the Reverie network. I also think, despite that they buy stars, they have a developmental territory strictly because it would provide content for the network and allow them to try to sign young talent and hog them from the others in an effort to put everyone else out of business.

 

They've shown a willingness to pay top dollar for talent and I think they've added a handful more stars. The biggest one I see is Rocky Golden. He seems to be to be a natural addition to their roster and their ability to pay would make him a premier signing. I also see them attempting to break into Mexico by signing away some mid-tier SOTBPW talent that they can try to make their big Latin star (El Heroe Mexicano being my number pick pick for this). They're fighting SWF, TCW, Canada and Mexico for North American supremacy at this point.

 

They're going to be number one but they are going to be fighting a war on multiple fronts and that's going to be the biggest challenge for them. They're going to be a target for all the other major promotions and are going to have to manage a massive roster and a massive amount of programming.

 

SWF

I see SWF being in a continued downward swing/re building period. I know they are a lot of people's favorite promotion because of their resemblance to the Attitude Era -- but they also have spent (until 2016) the entirety of TEW's run at the top of the US scene and really at the top of the world scene and in cannon, they had a 30+ year run as the dominant force. I foresee them having suffered a major loss of talent due to retirements/age. Skull DeBones should be fully retired by this point. He'll be right around 48/49 and is already nearing retirement in 2016. He'll be a 30 year pro in 2020 and probably done. The Crippler will be 46 and could still be active, sure, but he also is a guy who came up in the East Coast Wars of hardcore promotions (much like Skull, though Skull did have his run in Texas) and is probably slowing down. Rogue will be in his early forties, Valiant and Gilmore will be just about forty. Eric Eisen will be in his early forties. Jack Bruce will be 47 and also probably retired by this point -- and he's been the face of the organization for years.

 

They have two talents primed to still be major players -- Remo and Joey Morgan. Brandon James will also be over forty at this point. They do have plenty of young talent waiting in the wings -- and I think that is where they are going to be. Developing young talent from RIPW and on the main roster already. USPW will have continued to try to cherry pick talent from SWF. SWF is in a solid position because of the sheer amount of youth they have on their roster -- they have a lot of guys that are in their early 30s that could be on the rise or have taken over by 2020, but it will be they are retooling a little bit and not nearly the number one promotion they once were. They're also primed to benefit from an influx of talent like: Primus Allen, Scythe, Spencer Spade, Matty Faith, Ranger, Ekuma, Chill, Avalanche, Lenny Brown, etc... that will have them in a good position to continue on.

 

Their challenge is going to be overcoming the money and aggressiveness of Allen Packer to get back to the top. I think Operation Lullaby is a red herring and it's not going to amount to much -- if it does it will just be Richard Eisen going down and SWF will be trying to recover some public image (and that would be very interesting).

 

TCW

TCW is in an interesting place. I see them being in full blown work-rate mode. I see them having added a women's division and having lost several of their top talents. They also have a lot of guys I see being aged out. They currently have ten wrestlers on their roster that start 2016 at 39 or older (meaning they'll have ten guys that would be 43 or older). I think most of those guys will be gone into the sunset. Buffalo, RDJ, Vessey, Bryant, and Hill almost assuredly will be because they will be all over 45 by 2020. The other five could still be around, but Peak, Fonzarelli, and Human Arsenal all came up in the same East Coast Wars that I think from a physical standpoint are going to have a lot of them hanging up the boots somewhat early. They also have another 11 guys that are between 35-38 at the start of 2016. This gives them 21 talents that are 35 and up on their roster. I see a lot of them being gone or phased down for a full youth movement. TCW could benefit from becoming the place the indy darlings go.

 

They're owned by a toy company, which to me also means they would be poised to have the most to gain from presenting a high octane product that 'wows' people. I see TCW being big with the video game crowd. I also see them being the American company trying to break into India, not SWF or USPW. With TCW based in Hollywood, they just seem to make sense to me.

[misterioso]

While I'd love to see CGC turn around and be on the up and up, it doesn't feel that way after the last two releases. I do think they'd be the perfect CVerse company to do block scheduling for TV tapings as a cost cutting measure and have a month's worth of TV taped in one night.