gazwefc83 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 yeah, so basically i just want to make sure i have all the the broadcaster types correct for broadcasters. I live in the UK so any help outside of the UK would be great. 10 Bold - Terrestrial Free to Air 1Sports - Cable Commerical 5Spike - Terrestrial Commerical 5STAR - Terrestrial Commerical ABC - Cable Commerical AbemaTV - Internet Subscription AJPW.tv - Internet Subscription All Japan Pro Wrestling TV - Internet Subscription AXS TV - Cable Commerical Azteca 7 - Terrestrial Commerical B/R Live - Internet Subscription beIN Sports - Cable Commerical Bell TV - Internet Subscription BJW Core - Internet Subscription Bravo - Cable Commerical BS11 - Terrestrial Commerical BS-Asahi - Terrestrial Commerical BT Sport - Cable Subscription BT Sport Box Office - Cable PPV Cablevision - Cable PPV Canal 5 - Terrestrial Commerical CanalSat - Cable PPV CBC Television - Terrestrial Commerical CBS - Cable Commerical Challenge - Terrestrial Commerical Channel 5 - Terrestrial Commerical CHARGE! - Terrestrial Commerical CHIKARAtopia - Internet Subscription City - Terrestrial Commerical Cogeco - Cable PPV COMET TV - Terrestrial Commerical CTV - Terrestrial Commerical DAZN - Internet Subscription DDT Universe - Internet Subscription Destination America - Cable Commerical DirecTV - Cable PPV Dish México - Cable PPV Dish Network - Cable PPV Dragon Gate Network - Internet Subscription El Rey Network - Terrestrial Commerical ESPN - Cable Commerical ESPN+ - Cable Commerical ESPN2 - Cable Commerical Fight Klub Poland - Internet Subscription Fighting TV Samurai - Internet Subscription Fite TV - Internet PPV Fite TV (USA) - Cable PPV FloSlam - Internet Subscription FOX - Cable Commerical Fox Sports 2 - Cable Commerical Fox Sports Networks - Cable Commerical FOX8 - Terrestrial Commerical FreeSports - Terrestrial Commerical Front Runner - Terrestrial Commerical FX - Cable Commerical Galavisión - Terrestrial Commerical GAORA Sports - Terrestrial Commerical GAORA Sports (Tier 2) - Terrestrial Commerical Gifu Broadcasting System - Terrestrial Commerical Global TV - Terrestrial Commerical hulu Plus - Internet Subscription Imagen Televisión - Terrestrial Commerical Impact Plus - Internet Subscription In Demand - Cable PPV ION Television - Terrestrial Commerical ITV - Terrestrial Commerical ITV 2 - Terrestrial Commerical ITV 3 - Terrestrial Commerical ITV 4 - Terrestrial Commerical J Sports 1 - Terrestrial Commerical J Sports 2 - Terrestrial Commerical J Sports 3 - Terrestrial Commerical J Sports 4 - Terrestrial Commerical J-One - Terrestrial Commerical KDOC-TV - Terrestrial Commerical Kyoto Broadcasting System - Terrestrial Commerical La Chaine Action - Terrestrial Commerical MADE Television - Terrestrial Commerical Mainevent - Cable PPV Makeful - Terrestrial Commerical MavTV - Terrestrial Commerical MTV - Cable Commerical MVStv - Terrestrial Commerical My Combat Channel - Terrestrial Commerical MyNetwork TV - Cable Commerical NBC - Cable Commerical Netflix (Australia) - Internet Subscription Netflix (Europe) - Internet Subscription Netflix (Mexico) - Internet Subscription Netflix (North America) - Internet Subscription New Japan World - Internet Subscription niconico - Internet Subscription Nippon TV - Terrestrial Commerical NTV G+ - Terrestrial Commerical NTV G+ (Tier 2) - Terrestrial Commerical Nuvolari - Terrestrial Commerical Paramount Network - Cable Commerical Peachtree TV - Terrestrial Commerical Pivotshare (Australia) - Internet Subscription Pivotshare (Europe) - Internet Subscription Pivotshare (Mexico) - Internet Subscription Pivotshare (North America) - Internet Subscription POP - Cable Commerical Pursuit - Terrestrial Commerical RDS - Terrestrial Commerical Rogers TV - Terrestrial Commerical Samurai TV - Terrestrial Commerical Samurai TV (Tier 2) - Terrestrial Commerical Sendai Global - Internet Subscription Setanta Sports - Cable Subscription Sky Deutschland AG - Terrestrial Commerical Sky Sports Action - Cable Subscription Sky Sports Arena - Cable Subscription Sky Sports Box Office - Cable PPV Sky Sports Main Event - Cable Subscription Sony Ten 1 HD - Cable Commerical Sony Ten 2 HD - Cable Commerical Sony Ten 3 HD - Cable Commerical Spectrum Sports - Terrestrial Commerical Sport.TV - Terrestrial Commerical Sports Channel Network - Cable Commerical Sportsnet 360 - Terrestrial Commerical Sportsnet East - Terrestrial Commerical Sportsnet Ontario - Terrestrial Commerical Sportsnet Pacific - Terrestrial Commerical Sportsnet West - Terrestrial Commerical Star Sports 1 HD - Cable Commerical Star Sports 1 Hindi HD - Cable Commerical Star Sports 2 HD - Cable Commerical StarChoice - Cable PPV Stardom World - Internet Subscription SyFy - Cable Commerical TBS - Cable Commerical Tele 5 - Terrestrial Commerical Telemundo - Terrestrial Commerical Televisa - Terrestrial Commerical The Box - Terrestrial Commerical The CW - Cable Commerical The Fight Network - Cable Subscription TLN - Terrestrial Commerical TNT - Cable Commerical TNT Serie - Terrestrial Commerical Tokyo MX - Terrestrial Commerical TSN - Terrestrial Commerical TSN2 - Terrestrial Commerical Tuff TV - Terrestrial Commerical tv asahi - Terrestrial Commerical tv asahi 2 - Terrestrial Commerical TVA Sports - Terrestrial Commerical Twitch (Asia) - Internet Subscription Twitch (Europe) - Internet Free to Air Twitch (Mexico) - Internet Subscription Twitch (North America) - Internet Subscription USA Network - Cable Commerical V - Terrestrial Commerical Viewer's Choice - Cable PPV Vubiquity - Cable PPV wapa - Terrestrial Commerical WBFS-My 33 - Terrestrial Commerical WGN America - Cable Commerical WOWOW Live - Terrestrial Commerical WWE Network - Internet Subscription WWN Live - Internet Subscription wXw NOW - Internet Subscription Youtoo America - Terrestrial Commerical YouTube (Asia) - Internet Free to Air YouTube (Europe) - Internet Free to Air YouTube (Mexico) - Internet Free to Air YouTube (North America) - Internet Free to Air YTV - Terrestrial Commerical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 <p>Haven't looked at all of them - don't know who most of them are! - but is there any reason that Twitch Europe is free to air and the rest of Twitch have to pay? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Twitch should be free-to-air IMO, because you don't HAVE to pay to get access to content. It's no different to Youtube in that regard.</p><p> </p><p> I totally understand why you've set YouTube and Twich up in different regions, gameplay wise that makes perfect sense (so that you can have TV in one region and Twitch in another). I would argue though that in the real world, it wouldn't work. AFAIK you're not able to block Twitch broadcasts per country are you? And if you are, getting around it is so easy that it's basically as if you didn't bother. So nobody will agree to pay for your TV show if people can get it free on the internet. But like I said, from a gameplay standpoint I get why you've done it that way.</p><p> </p><p> ITV 2-4 would be Cable, no? You can't get them on "terrestrial" TV, although I fully concede that barely anyone actually uses literal terrestrial TV now, so if you wanted Freeview and stuff to count as Terrestrial I won't argue. Although having said that, if we're counting Freeview as Terrestrial, Dave is therefore Terrestrial too (just noticed Dave aren't actually on the list).</p><p> </p><p> You seem to be missing the entire BBC?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 <p>ESPN+ would likely be online subscription (it’s mostly available via apps as opposed to trad cable.) But they also do UFC PPVs separate as a purchase on top of the subscription fee, which is tricky.</p><p> </p><p> NBC/ABC/CBS/FOX should all be terrestrial commercial, and their smaller channels cable.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 <p>I would be careful with anything listed as free-to-air. I ran into this myself yesterday when looking at broadcasters and will probably add something to the Mod Conversion Checklist thread. When you look at broadcasters in Wikipedia, many will be listed as "free to air". But in TEW terms, that means they are terrestrial. As in, you don't need a cable package to get them. I checked the first one on your list, 10 Bold, which I throught was a sports channel in Australia. It is and sure enough, Wikipedia lists it as free-to-air, but that's almost never going to be the case for a sports channel. </p><p> </p><p> Free-to-air in TEW terms means they are not going to be able to pay for content. Its a public broadcaster like PBS, where anyone can get anything on if they produce it themselves and provide it to the channel. Not all publicly-funded broadcasters fall under this - BBC doesn't, CBC doesn't, etc. But TEW free-to-air channels don't make money from commercials so they won't pay for content.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 Thanks for the input lads, iv got a good amount of editing to crack on with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Free-to-air in TEW terms means they are not going to be able to pay for content. Its a public broadcaster like PBS, where anyone can get anything on if they produce it themselves and provide it to the channel. Not all publicly-funded broadcasters fall under this - BBC doesn't, CBC doesn't, etc. But TEW free-to-air channels don't make money from commercials so they won't pay for content. Fully agreed, whilst the BBC would usually be considered free to air, as they don't run commercials, in TEW terms this would make them a really poor broadcaster to be signed to financially (though still good for popularity), which doesn't make sense. So Terrestrial Commercial makes the most in-game sense, despite not being completely accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Thanks for the input lads, iv got a good amount of editing to crack on with. Its not THAT bad once you get rolling with it. I started tackling this yesterday with the 2013 mod I'm working on. I had a few hours of mod time yesterday and managed to get most of the Mexico-based broadcasters done. Added in short bios from them even. Honestly, with the internet-based ones a new addition, I think these might take some experimentation. Like D-Lyrium says, breaking down YouTube might be 100% accurate but it seems like it might be the st best way to make it work in the game-world. Looking at the Cverse, the wrestling-focused Internet sub service is broken down regionally. Probably going to take some long-term soak tests and tweaks to find out the ideal settings for some of these broadcasters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingster Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Can't comment on most of these, but Sky Deutschland is actually a terrestrial subscription broadcaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LloydCross Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Fully agreed, whilst the BBC would usually be considered free to air, as they don't run commercials, in TEW terms this would make them a really poor broadcaster to be signed to financially (though still good for popularity), which doesn't make sense. So Terrestrial Commercial makes the most in-game sense, despite not being completely accurate. There might even be an argument for the BBC to be Terrestrial Subscription given the nature of TV licenses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladjarca Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Haven't looked at all of them - don't know who most of them are! - but is there any reason that Twitch Europe is free to air and the rest of Twitch have to pay? Twitch should be free-to-air IMO, because you don't HAVE to pay to get access to content. It's no different to Youtube in that regard. I totally understand why you've set YouTube and Twich up in different regions, gameplay wise that makes perfect sense (so that you can have TV in one region and Twitch in another). I would argue though that in the real world, it wouldn't work. AFAIK you're not able to block Twitch broadcasts per country are you? And if you are, getting around it is so easy that it's basically as if you didn't bother. So nobody will agree to pay for your TV show if people can get it free on the internet. But like I said, from a gameplay standpoint I get why you've done it that way. ITV 2-4 would be Cable, no? You can't get them on "terrestrial" TV, although I fully concede that barely anyone actually uses literal terrestrial TV now, so if you wanted Freeview and stuff to count as Terrestrial I won't argue. Although having said that, if we're counting Freeview as Terrestrial, Dave is therefore Terrestrial too (just noticed Dave aren't actually on the list). You seem to be missing the entire BBC? On Twitch you have to pay a monthly subscription for some companies, like AAA. Unrelated to that, one thing that is annoying is that platforms like DAZN and Fite are set worldwide. I can't air Dynamite on Fite because in the game it covers all the areas. But IRL, the whole non-american/canadian/british world watches Dynamite on Fite (or free streams ). I think the best option would be to make all platforms restricted to one area (ex.: Fite UK, Fite Europe, Fite Russia etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 There might even be an argument for the BBC to be Terrestrial Subscription given the nature of TV licenses Kind of, I guess, but since it's illegal to watch TV without a license, you'd have to account for ITV and C4 technically being subscription too, too complicated On Twitch you have to pay a monthly subscription for some companies, like AAA. Oh, cool. So there's a paywall option to access the content now? That's cool. Internet subscription works fine then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Most AAA I watch on Twtch is free. I know subscribers can watch it on replay, which non-subs cannot. But I don't know if there is additional content for subscribers….? Honestly, Twitch is kinda halfway in between because while the content creator can sub-lock the broadcast, so that only subscribers can view it at all, it seems like fairly few do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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