ECWRulz32 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Big Show why did they have to give ECW the big show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 YAY. YAY. It's ECSMACKDOWN. The fan boys on both sides arguing over wether or not this was a good show is the most amusing crap I've ever read. Look at it this way. ECW's back. This is the New Breed of ECW. Sports Entertainment is the way of life now. You want to see bloody brawls, and half decent wrestling, go put two bums through wrestling school, hand them barbed wire bats, and put a sack of food, some clothes, and free hotel room passes between them, that's about the only way you're ever going to see it again. If you honestly thought Vince McMahon would let ECW be ECW, you're slower than the average retard. It's all a big joke, get used to it. It'll always be just a big joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECWRulz32 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 [QUOTE=Arrows]YAY. YAY. It's ECSMACKDOWN. The fan boys on both sides arguing over wether or not this was a good show is the most amusing crap I've ever read. Look at it this way. ECW's back. This is the New Breed of ECW. Sports Entertainment is the way of life now. You want to see bloody brawls, and half decent wrestling, go put two bums through wrestling school, hand them barbed wire bats, and put a sack of food, some clothes, and free hotel room passes between them, that's about the only way you're ever going to see it again. If you honestly thought Vince McMahon would let ECW be ECW, you're slower than the average retard. It's all a big joke, get used to it. It'll always be just a big joke.[/QUOTE] Yes i knew he would not let ECW be ECW i just wish he leve it alone and same thing with the SCFI network what if we had a second rate version of ECW and they had such stars as the zombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitsukaikira Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 [QUOTE=Arrows]YAY. YAY. It's ECSMACKDOWN. The fan boys on both sides arguing over wether or not this was a good show is the most amusing crap I've ever read. Look at it this way. ECW's back. This is the New Breed of ECW. Sports Entertainment is the way of life now. You want to see bloody brawls, and half decent wrestling, go put two bums through wrestling school, hand them barbed wire bats, and put a sack of food, some clothes, and free hotel room passes between them, that's about the only way you're ever going to see it again. If you honestly thought Vince McMahon would let ECW be ECW, you're slower than the average retard. It's all a big joke, get used to it. It'll always be just a big joke.[/QUOTE] :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdo_man Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Arrows, if you knew less about what you were talking about I would smack you. You think that all that ECW was was Hardcore. Surprisingly enough, that was only half of the shows. The other half was people like RVD, Super Crazy, and Sabu flying through the air and jumping off of the top ropes into the crowd. If WWE would just let wrestling BEGIN to take center stage over hardcore and entertainment, we might see some of when at the beginning of ECW matches against these types of wrestlers, there would be a 2 minute exchange of pins and arm drags nad take downs, and people springboard diving off of the top rope into the crowd. And to Adam, Kurt Angle doesn't fit in because he isn't hardcore nor a high flier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashkihyena Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Also, don't forget that I'm sure they couldn't do half of the stuff that they wanted cause of the F.C.C. and the fact that if they broke any of that stuff, Sci-Fi would be fined outta the ass, and well, I personally can't say I blame the Sci-Fi for that. Also, I personally don't mind the Sci-Fi stuff, as long as it doesn't take over. XD I thought that the Zombie jobbing to Sandman was great, and the Zombie's going into my TEW game. Anyways, if they move to USA, yeah, I can imagine that it'd probably get a whole lot better, but you've got to give it time IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlawson Posted June 16, 2006 Author Share Posted June 16, 2006 Just remember, they were PPV only before and could do WAY more on screen....Shane Douglas = Entertainer btw :) so don't dog on Angle :) Now that Vince has it of course it will be like Hardcore Entertainment....but I'll stop talking about that. I think Big Show will fade after a while, I like Big Guido alot more....and the more I think about it Mike Sanders maybe should come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolinc Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 [QUOTE=weirdo_man] And to Adam, Kurt Angle doesn't fit in because he isn't hardcore nor a high flier.[/QUOTE] :eek: I guess Dean Malenko didn't fit into ECW either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashkihyena Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 ECW was always PPV? Cause yeah, if thats the case, they could defently get away with alot of the stuff that they did, but unfortunly they can't do that on public cable, I don't think the soccer moms would allow it sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 If I was more wrong? Considering one of my favorite ECW wrestlers, was, just that. A WRESTLER, I'd say you really don't know what you're talking about. You then go on to say Angle doesn't fit because he's not hardcore, and he's not a flyer. Taz? Anyone remember that fella? Thought so. Taz may be more "Hardcore" than Angle, but who are you to say so? Who's to say in 3 weeks, Angle won't go and beat the bloody hell out of someone worse than anyone in ECW's ever managed to do? I thought the whole shows were filled with violence? Didn't I, I dunno, mention wrestling somewhere in there? God I hate dealing with simpletons who don't know how to read entire posts before trying to tear it apart. Is fun when they make fools of themselves, and it gets caught. If. If. If..If they would just let! THOSE ARE THE GUYS THEY SHOVED DOWN. What makes you think NOW they are going to let them do anything? Because the letters ECW get shown again? Because it's more than just a small chant on other promotions wrestling shows? Plain and simple. Vince McMahon will never let any wrestlers look better in the ring than his own SuperStars! It's that simple, if you haven't figured it out yet, I'm sorry for your misguidedness. This is why his own talent sucks. He thinks if someone looks better than his main event scene, his main event scene is ruined. He's backwards on his logic. Think that'll change for these boys? No. As for the PPV comments. I have one simple thing to say. ONS 1. "This is E....C...*Censor*...W!" ..Since when can't you drop an F bomb on PAY PER VIEW? Yea..they're gonna be allowed to do sooooo much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 [QUOTE=weirdo_man]Arrows, if you knew less about what you were talking about I would smack you. You think that all that ECW was was Hardcore. Surprisingly enough, that was only half of the shows. The other half was people like RVD, Super Crazy, and Sabu flying through the air and jumping off of the top ropes into the crowd. If WWE would just let wrestling BEGIN to take center stage over hardcore and entertainment, we might see some of when at the beginning of ECW matches against these types of wrestlers, there would be a 2 minute exchange of pins and arm drags nad take downs, and people springboard diving off of the top rope into the crowd. And to Adam, Kurt Angle doesn't fit in because he isn't hardcore nor a high flier.[/QUOTE] Neither hardcore nor a high flier....? ECW only being hardcore or high flying? :eek: If you seriously think that that was all ECW was then you've missed out on a lot. Did you fast forward through most of their shows or something? Taz was a wrestler, it was even part of his nickname "The Human Suplex Machine". Lance Storm was a technical master. Benoit, Guerrero and Malenko were all technical wrestlers. Too Cold Scorpio was a brilliant all-rounder during his TV title reigns. Shane Douglas, before his decline, wasn't a hardcore fighter or a high flier, he was a wrestler. Jerry Lynn, Chris Candido, Tajiri, Jericho, Louie Spicolli, Little Guido, they are all wrestlers who don't fit the "hardcore or high flier" tag that you've given them, they're people who can actually wrestle with the best. I mean, the list goes on and on.... One of the big points of ECW was that it catered for a lot of different fans with a lot of different styles. To just pass it off as "some weapons and some high flying" is just crazy. Then again, if your idea of good wrestling is people springboarding off the top rope in the first two minutes of a match then I'm guessing technical wrestling isn't really your thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 [B][U]found this over at pwinsider.com[/U][/B] I talked to a number of people in the company over the past few days and they all realized that the first show was a bomb, despite the excellent rating. They realize that the rating wasn't drawn off of the show, but rather the curiosity of those who wanted to see the new brand. Sources close to the situation told me that even Vince McMahon realized the show stunk, but he didn't really sell it to anyone. There's a lot of pressure to make this week's show better. The feeling is that they will have the audience back this week, thinking that even those who hated last week's show will at least give it a second chance before tuning out for good. So, they need to deliver. Dave Scherer I think that's fairly right on, any other thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 now I may get flamed for this but, reading more of these posts one thought came to mind. [B][U]Question[/U][/B] when people are talking about the "old ECW days" which era is the person refering to. pre or post TNN days. here is why I bring this up. As stated by anyone within the old ECW, and anyone who has seen "the rise and fall of ECW" ECW was a small company to start with that was built up in mainly one area with maybe small shows outside of the northeast. Back when the old ECW was in their building period mid 90's where they had Dean, Eddie, Jericho, too cold, simmons, austin, mysterio etc..... I lived in the midwest and southwest I never saw or even heard of that ECW at that time. The first time I remember seeing any of these guys was in WCW. sure I noticed ECW tapes at local mall for sale years later but I all ready locked into WWE and WCW and so ECW never got my interest. The first "old ECW" I watched was some "best of" tape three monthes before the TNN deal. So personally when I made that post about Angle not being an ECW wrestler I was really using what I saw from the TNN version of ECW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I really hate that I'm in the same boat. Luckily I have friends all over the place, and some have been nice enough to help me get hold of matches from earlier stuff. Internet's good for finding some too, so I got to catch up on a bit. The TNN version always seemed rushed to me though. They tried to pack what they could into the time they had, and it did take away a lot of the wrestling quality they had been giving before then. Personally, I'm loving Angle and Show in ECW. Angle really does give off the Taz vibes, and I really think he's having fun with it. What he did to Orton at One Night Stand II was borderline Godly, and it's the best I've seen Angle in a long time. I could see him going a long way in ECW, while his act was growing stale with WWE. Same goes for Show really. If he can break the mold, work on some new moves, and actually bring himself to another level of competing, he could be a really good addition to the ECW roster. He's a big, scary guy, and if he can learn to REALLY show the power he does have, he'll be a big help. I think Show can put on good matches, and I think if ECW ever gets to be ECW, he'll be able to put on better matches than he did with WCW, or WWF/E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 [QUOTE=mystic][B][U]Question[/U][/B] when people are talking about the "old ECW days" which era is the person refering to. pre or post TNN days. here is why I bring this up.[/QUOTE] I'd split it more by pre and post pay-per-view era. From Raven's debut up until the end of Barely Legal was when they were at their absolute peak in terms of creativity and putting on a great product. That's when they were head and shoulders above WWF and WCW. That's when they built their true hardcore fan base - unless you were watching at that time it's hard to imagine just how much better ECW were than the other two, it was insane. Once Raven left, the quality of the ECW shows started to slide and both WWF and WCW were starting to improve rapidly in terms of putting on watchable shows. From that point onwards, don't believe the hype - ECW weren't actually doing a great deal different from the WWF's "Attitude Era", basically because WWF were stealing a lot of stuff stylistically. WWF were doing all the best bits of ECW, but doing it with a bigger budget, a wider audience, and better workers (i.e. Austin was basically doing everything Sandman was doing, but Sandman's matches were absolute garbage at the time, Austin was doing stuff like the wild PPV main events with Foley). That's why most people don't really know what ECW is truly about - if all you saw was from PPV onwards, or worse still, TNN onwards, then all you've seen is them doing stuff that you can see WWE doing every week nowadays. 1994-1996 was when they were absolute gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdo_man Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Ugh I hate having to work 12 hours from 6:30pm to 6:30am. I fill the FBI and other wrestlers like them into high fliers, because that's a lot of what they did. Shane Douglass was a big time brawler/hardcore guy, and Tazz was a big time hardcore guy while being a wrestler (In 1995, he participated in the first ever tables match where I know he was hit or hit his opponents [Public Enemy, his partner was Sabu] with a frying pan). Jerry Lynn was a high flier and did a lot of good hardcore matches (Even towards the end of ECW) with Justin Credible. Everyone in ECW that was a cruiserweight had to wrestle hardcore at one time or another. Saying that Shane Douglass wasn't hardcore is ridiculous, because, in 1995, the line was crossed in a three way barb wire ropes match that he just happened to be in. There was always very little pure wrestling without high flying, but when you consider that it DID happen occassionally, then you can say that Angle fit in. HOWEVER, none of those technical wrestlers from ECW's old days were brought back. Lance Storm is training with a hurt back in OVW, Dean Malenko is a road agent (I think?), and I think Chris Benoit is too. At the present time, I have no reason to think that Kurt Angle can fit in as being hardcore. You want a major reason why? HE WEARS A MOUTHPIECE. HOW CAN YOU BE HARDCORE WITH A MOUTHPIECE? And I consider the old ECW days all of ECW, because ECW was the top rated TNN show the entire time that it was on TNN, but they had to pay TNN to be on, TNN didn't pay them as WWE is paid by stations to keep them from going someplace else. Basically, I really don't think that the Big Show and Kurt Angle work, because they just aren't exciting to me. The Big Show's idea of being upset over losing the 10 man battle royal Tuesday night was throwing a shopping cart and not changing his facial expression from its usual idiotic look. Kurt Angle just doesn't usually seem to have the intensity that should be found in ECW if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Have you not been watching Angle? His match at ONS, he just punked out Orton. It was the most intense I've seen Angle in a long time, and personally, I feel Angle stole the show at ONS. RVD may have been their fan boy, but Angle stole the show when it came to match quality. I say Angle, because Orton really did very little other than selling, while Angle dominated the match. Angle was amazing at ONS, and what he did to Credible was another testiment of his intensity. Sure, it was a squash, and over very fast, but Angle's a dominant man, it worked well for him to just completely own Credible. "WAAAAA! The match was only a minute! It's not fair to job Credible like that!" Taz punked out Lawler in, 15 seconds? Anyone have an actual TIME on that match, I'd love to know. One move, wham. Over. You ECW Fan Boys were all RUAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! TAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No difference at all. Taz choked out Lawler. Angle choked out Credible. Angle can't be hardcore because of his mouth peice? Protects his mouth when he does get hardcore, giving him more reason to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Angle not having intensity :confused: I think some of the argument is because you seem to classify anyone who ever uses a weapon as a hardcore wrestler. I don't agree with that at all. Chris Benoit used a chair occasionally when he was in ECW, is he now a hardcore wrestler? No, of course he isn't. Shane Douglas wasn't either, until his decline he was a damn fine all-rounder (for the record you're also wrong about the Night The Line Was Crossed, it wasn't a barbed wire match at all - have you actually seen any ECW from this time period?). You still haven't really responded to my point that there was a lot of great wrestling in ECW. "Very little pure wrestling" is total BS. Go back and watch A Matter Of Respect, their best ever show, and tell me it didn't have great pure wrestling on the card. Or back to the Malenko Guerrero series. They always had good wrestling on the show at some point back then. BTW, at the time of the Three Way Dance, Taz was still the Tasmaniac, his character was supposed to be a violent savage, hence the hardcore work (well, I say hardcore work - he hit someone with a frying pan, once if I remember, which puts him level with....Beulah at ONS). He didn't become his more famous Taz character for quite a while after that. Once he made that change, he was a wrestler. One of his spiels was "I don't need a weapon, my hands are my weapons" - the whole point was that he didn't need to be hardcore, he could murder someone without needing chairs and tables. Pretty much the same gimmick as Angle is playing now! To call Little Guido a high flier....well, I don't even want to respond to that, that like saying Angle lacks intensity. Oh wait, you said that too :confused: Anyway, I'm done. If your argument about Angle boils down to "he wears a mouthpiece" then I doubt any number of facts are going to change your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashkihyena Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I still think that at a PPV, you can do more then you can on a public show, but thats just me. I'm also thinking that everyones just having way to high expecations for it, and then getting dissapointed when it premiered. I still think that it needs some time, that deal on Tuesday was just a premiere and there will be more shows in the future, and hopefully ECW PPVs, but thats just me being hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlawson Posted June 16, 2006 Author Share Posted June 16, 2006 Yeah, I think Vince just wasn't sure how to use the talent he had and he was cornered by SciFi....but we'll see soon if it's just Vince's version of "harcore ECW" or SciFi's version.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makarok Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I think that the problem is that anyone who is an ECW mark (myself included) is going to have their own favorite 'era'. However, I haven't seen the new show yet, as us Brits have to wait until Sunday night :( I do think Angle is a good fit, even if he was slagging off ECW last year and even if he does wear a daft gumshield. I thought his and Orton's match was superb and the best I've seen from either guy for a while. Big show could be a good fit if he loses some weight and gets a few more moves. A feud with Big Guido might be cool too. The scary thing about this whole scifi deal and all these geeky gimmicks is that it's too reminiscent of the old WWF & WCW days. I wouldn't be suprised if they dragged out the old weasel suit !! That might well be the biggest fault with this, the new ECW is more like the old WWF & WCW - lots of stupid gimmicks and not so much wrestling, which ECW was supposed to be an alternative to. I think if vinny mac can pull his head out of his ass and let the new ECW be more like the PPVs we have had, it will succeed. I think people feel cheated because the show isn't anything near to what the PPVs have been, but I guess I'll find out on Sunday :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briskout Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 [QUOTE=GDE71]Actually, I was calling out Briskout as a WWE mark.[/QUOTE] Actually I'm not a WWE mark. I'm an NWA mark if anything [not TNA, real NWA. You know, The Briscos, Race, Flair, the Funks, Steamboat, Rhodes, etc] and I NEVER said it wasn't a bad show. I just said it wasn't as awful as people go on about. It was a big disappointment, it was bad, but people make it sound like the worse wrestling show they've ever seen when infact it wasn't. People [fans] were expecting this full blown ECW nostalgia trip. That's what you got in a sense. You got some senseless booking, some good booking, lots of "What the ?!" moments. But Paul E. was never the God booker people claim him to be [although I'm biased being a fan of Cornette's style of booking] and having Vince and Kevin Dunn rewrite most of his stuff didn't help. And without a good crowd, alot of the stuff he put on flopped. In front of an ECW crowd Sandman would be claimed a hero, Vampire would be getting rude chants, Cena and Edge would've been pummelled in the crowd, etc etc. But they were in front of a WWE crowd. Be happy Sandman got a lukewarm reaction. [quote]And to Adam, Kurt Angle doesn't fit in because he isn't hardcore nor a high flier.[/quote] Taz, Dean, Storm, Steve Austin [in his prime as far as skill goes, Austin was the ****ing man before Owen broke his neck] Little Guido, Guerrero, Candido, Benoit, I could go on. None of them are high fliers. None of them are "hardcore wrestlers". They were WRESTLERS. You say Arrows knows little then you go on a rant about ECW being high flying and hardcore wrestling. When you start watching ECW? 2004? This is why I hate coming to this board about wrestling stuff. [quote]Also, don't forget that I'm sure they couldn't do half of the stuff that they wanted cause of the F.C.C.[/quote] I hate when people blame the F.C.C. The F.C.C. has control over network television, not cable television. That's all sponsers and ****. And considering most of the commercials were WWE/ECW that night, it's obviously Sci-Fi just overreacting. People keep saying Angle has a Taz-like aura but I think it's more. It's more of Angle being unleashed [New Breed Unleashed?] rather than him becoming Taz 2. I'll admit, he does look alot like Taz and could fill the spot of a no nonsense wrestler, but Angle is becoming less of the goofy jock and more of a "I'm an olympic gold medalist dammit, these are scrubs off the street so I should be taking them down and owning" kind of guy. [quote]Just remember, they were PPV only before and could do WAY more on screen[/quote] So I'm imagining all the ECW television shows I watched from 1994-2001? Unless you're from out of the States then whatever... [quote]Since when can't you drop an F bomb on PAY PER VIEW?[/quote] I don't know if it was me or not, but when watching the original live showings, didn't it seem like they let all the ECW guys get away with murder but WWE guys weren't allowed to say ****? [quote]I fill the FBI and other wrestlers like them into high fliers, because that's a lot of what they did. [/quote] Guido comes off the ropes maybe.. once per match. I don't think I've EVER seen Dean Malenko come off the top rope. Ditto with Storm. [quote]HOWEVER, none of those technical wrestlers from ECW's old days were brought back. Lance Storm is training with a hurt back in OVW, Dean Malenko is a road agent (I think?), and I think Chris Benoit is too.[/quote] Storm is training in Calgary. Malenko is a road agent. Benoit is injured, not a road agent. He's resting from his many neck injuries. [quote]At the present time, I have no reason to think that Kurt Angle can fit in as being hardcore. You want a major reason why? HE WEARS A MOUTHPIECE. HOW CAN YOU BE HARDCORE WITH A MOUTHPIECE?[/quote] Kurt Angle isn't "Hardcore". No. He's there to do one thing: Kick ass. And that's what he does. I'll admit the mouthpiece isn't that threatening, but it adds to his "Shoot" style he's producing. [quote]ECW was the top rated TNN show[/quote] Competing with ECW on TNN? Uh.. Some country shows on TNN.. Seriously, that's a bad analogy when you consider what was on TNN. [quote]Kurt Angle just doesn't usually seem to have the intensity that should be found in ECW if you ask me.[/quote] If you ask me, he was pretty damn intense. At least compared to alot of the other ECW guys. Which is sad I'll admit. These guys should be excited as ECW has revived. [quote] "WAAAAA! The match was only a minute! It's not fair to job Credible like that!" Taz punked out Lawler in, 15 seconds? Anyone have an actual TIME on that match, I'd love to know. One move, wham. Over. You ECW Fan Boys were all RUAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! TAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No difference at all. Taz choked out Lawler. Angle choked out Credible.[/quote] Actually I agree with Arrows here but not in the sense he is doing it. Credible is a former ECW World Champ. Lawler is a former AWA World Champion [which in it's heyday was more credible than the ECW World title] and Lawler has held more titles [even if he booked himself to win the AWA Southern Heavyweight title 42 times and the USWA World title 27 times] than anyone else in the business. They were both jobbed. Like Arrows said, No Difference except Whew that was a mouthful. Don't take offense anyone, I'm just stating my ideas. And I don't hate ECW, I hate people who think ECW is "one" or "two-dimensional" when it really isn't. Basically 13 year old kids who are like "ECW IS HARDCOR!E~!@ KURT ISNT~@$$! RWAW!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Malenko used a top rope gut buster in WCW. Only seen him do it once. Only time I've ever seen him come off the ropes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdo_man Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 [QUOTE]Actually I agree with Arrows here but not in the sense he is doing it. Credible is a former ECW World Champ. Lawler is a former AWA World Champion [which in it's heyday was more credible than the ECW World title] and Lawler has held more titles [even if he booked himself to win the AWA Southern Heavyweight title 42 times and the USWA World title 27 times] than anyone else in the business. They were both jobbed. Like Arrows said, No Difference except Whew that was a mouthful. Don't take offense anyone, I'm just stating my ideas. And I don't hate ECW, I hate people who think ECW is "one" or "two-dimensional" when it really isn't. Basically 13 year old kids who are like "ECW IS HARDCOR!E~!@ KURT ISNT~@$$! RWAW!"[/QUOTE] Uh, first of all I'm not a 13 year old kid who says ECW IS HARDCOR!E~!@ KURT ISNT~@$$! RWAW. Also, Lawler wasn't jobbed at all. Neither Tazz nor Lawler are capable of putting on a decent match anymore, so Lawler lost in a botched match against the obvious crowd favorite at ONS. Credible was jobbed in a match that had no outside interference, Lawler lost purely because of the outside interference. Those two matches are like night and day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob4590 Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 [QUOTE=weirdo_man] Lawler lost purely because of the outside interference. [/QUOTE] Yeah course he did - Joey Syles is soooooo dangerous as a wrestler LMAO :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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