Ashkihyena Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 [QUOTE]The scary thing about this whole scifi deal and all these geeky gimmicks is that it's too reminiscent of the old WWF & WCW days. I wouldn't be suprised if they dragged out the old weasel suit !! That might well be the biggest fault with this, the new ECW is more like the old WWF & WCW - lots of stupid gimmicks and not so much wrestling, which ECW was supposed to be an alternative to. I think if vinny mac can pull his head out of his ass and let the new ECW be more like the PPVs we have had, it will succeed. I think people feel cheated because the show isn't anything near to what the PPVs have been, but I guess I'll find out on Sunday[/QUOTE] The reason they have the Sci-Fi stuff is because of the Sci-Fi Channel themselves, they want that to happen, so as long as ECW remains on that channel, its going to continue to happen. Also, you can't do PPVish stuff on Sci-Fi, cause its a public cable channel, and you can't get away with the stuff on that cause of the FCC which would fine the hell outta Sci-Fi for things like the chanting and more then likely, major bleeding (though I'm not sure on the latter). Edit: And I noticed someone said something about the FCC not being able to take control over the channels like Sci-Fi, thats not true, I'm sure that the FCC has a watch on those sorta things, and yes, I am blaming the FCC for part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 The FCC can;t stop ECW from being ECW. Can they stop them from having guys laying in puddles of blood? Yea. Can they stop some of the chants? Yea. Can they stop GREAT wrestling?..No. Why not go with that, over pretty much absolutely nothing. I'd rather listen to Styles and Tazz, than watch half the crap they threw on television last week. Styles and Tazz are the only reason the show was worth much of anything. Sure, Angle's great. Battle Royal was decent. Sabu won! Yay! Sabu gets to job to Cena again! Yay! Sci Fi. FCC. Whatever. Wrestling is wrestling, these idiots just don't know how to book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashkihyena Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 [QUOTE=Arrows]The FCC can;t stop ECW from being ECW. Can they stop them from having guys laying in puddles of blood? Yea. Can they stop some of the chants? Yea. Can they stop GREAT wrestling?..No. Why not go with that, over pretty much absolutely nothing. I'd rather listen to Styles and Tazz, than watch half the crap they threw on television last week. Styles and Tazz are the only reason the show was worth much of anything. Sure, Angle's great. Battle Royal was decent. Sabu won! Yay! Sabu gets to job to Cena again! Yay! Sci Fi. FCC. Whatever. Wrestling is wrestling, these idiots just don't know how to book.[/QUOTE] The problem there is that the chants and blood are a major part of ECW, at least from what I've seen back way when, or something, and unfortunly, thats what the FCC is trying to keep from being shown, so, yeah, thats a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briskout Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 [quote]Lawler lost purely because of the outside interference.[/quote] So you're telling me if Styles didn't interfere, Lawler would've won? The match was less than a minute long [Styles getting slapped was longer] and Lawler was jobbed. [quote]And I noticed someone said something about the FCC not being able to take control over the channels like Sci-Fi, thats not true, I'm sure that the FCC has a watch on those sorta things, and yes, I am blaming the FCC for part of the problem.[/quote] However, the FCC's regulatory domain with respect to indecency remains restricted to the public airwaves, notably VHF and UHF television and AM/FM radio. -Wikipedia VHF and UHF are channels you don't have to pay for, channels you can use an antenna for. You [should be] paying for cable, which is what Sci-Fi is on. It's all about sponsers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashkihyena Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Well, I still believe that the FCC probably still has a bit of a watch on it, and personally, I'd rather do without it, its nothing but trouble IMO, and I still believe that you could do more on a Pay Per View then you can with a cable channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 No arguement. Simple fact of the matter remains, what they used to be allowed to do on PPV, Vince will never allow them so, so that point means nothing. Not to mention, evidentally now PPV's have standards, as you can't drop F bombs anymore if your name's paul heyman, but any porn you order, has the word 97 times or so. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlawson Posted June 18, 2006 Author Share Posted June 18, 2006 I really wish Heyman could've came out like he use to, that was one of my fav things....and where was the "whistle blower" with RVD? Did they not want him back?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 He was backstage at the PPV, but that's all I've heard about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashkihyena Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 [QUOTE=Arrows]No arguement. Simple fact of the matter remains, what they used to be allowed to do on PPV, Vince will never allow them so, so that point means nothing. Not to mention, evidentally now PPV's have standards, as you can't drop F bombs anymore if your name's paul heyman, but any porn you order, has the word 97 times or so. Makes sense.[/QUOTE] I don't know, I don't run the stations that run Pay Per Views, so I don't know how they function, all I know is that you pay for cable, and you pay for Pay Per Views, so neither one of them should have restrictions on them. Well, somewhat anyways, I mean, you can't have porn on during the middle of the day and whatnot, but the violence and chants should still be allowed, its like I said, it'd be a whole hell of a lot better without the FCC and any other thing like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briskout Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 The reason places like HBO allow you to say what you want is because there's no advertising on HBO. Therefore no need to worry what sponsers would think if someone's blowing someone's head off. The exact opposite with Cable TV where there is advertising. Some sponsers don't want to be associated with blood and gore, others could care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlawson Posted June 23, 2006 Author Share Posted June 23, 2006 I loved this article,...it was released before the debut of ECW on SciFi... [URL="http://www.thewrestlingfan.com/ecwscifi.html"]http://www.thewrestlingfan.com/ecwscifi.html[/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 sadly it has only taken 30 seconds to ruin ECW this week. :( Hopefully I am wrong edit: the kid in orange, was he on his cell during the main event? don't know if that is funny or sad. No matter how they explain the ending that show was BAD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 [QUOTE=mystic]sadly it has only taken 30 seconds to ruin ECW this week. :( Hopefully I am wrong edit: the kid in orange, was he on his cell during the main event? don't know if that is funny or sad. No mstter how they explain the ending that show was BAD![/QUOTE] I agree. That was so predictable, it was sad. I saw this developing 2 weeks ago. Heyman basically questioning RVD's manhood since One Night Stand, knowing the simpleton is going to want to play John Wayne every night. I actually thought Heyman would turn on RVD last week against Kurt Angle, until I heard Angle's out nursing injuries. Next person in line was.......duh. I'm really sick of Kelly. I'm hoping at some point Trinity comes out and lays her out, hardcore style. Introduce her to the Fall from Grace. LOVED the crowd chants though (best part of the show, hands down). "MARI-JUANA", "YOU TOOK STEROIDS!", etc. The ones during the Mike Knox-Guido match were priceless too. I'm guessing they were really scraping the bottom of the barrel to come up with Test. After the Undertaker comes back and lays Dalip Singh to rest, they can send him to ECW from Smackdown (would be a promotion for him) and let him hurt people in Extreme Rules matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlawson Posted July 5, 2006 Author Share Posted July 5, 2006 Taker or Singh??? My GOD Taker would rule there in ECW though, IF it stays hardcore.... Deadman? or The Biker Dude?? I think the Big Evil or whatever he was going by, that would work so hard in ECW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagilki Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 To me, seeing CM Punk on tv was good enough...... Big Show as champ..... Damn, Why not Dreamer? Why not Sandman? Why not anybody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 I wonder what TNA is thinking after seeing WWECW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlawson Posted July 5, 2006 Author Share Posted July 5, 2006 For some reason bringing in CM Punk didn't excite me as much as I thought it would...the fact that I almost saw Sandman in a real hardcore MATCH was great...who was the "Priest"?? I wanna see Amazing Red come in!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubya Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Big Show is the best choice right now. He should make a pretty good monster heel champion, which will make it special when an underdog finally beats him.. IF that's where they're going with it. The priest, by the way, was indy worker Tony Devito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 [QUOTE=jagilki]To me, seeing CM Punk on tv was good enough...... Big Show as champ..... Damn, Why not Dreamer? Why not Sandman? Why not anybody else?[/QUOTE] Dreamer isn't bankable. Neither is Sandman. To WWE's audience (and let's face it, that's what this is. There are relatively few people who truly know what ECW is or was), Sandman = poor man's Stone Cold. You put the title on Show because he's a person your audience is familiar with and someone you can justify putting over an RVD without Vince Russo doing the writing. Now you can run an angle where Show destroys/hurts RVD or Heyman fires him so you can suspend RVD for the drug charges (or until such time the charges are resolved). I'd like to see what they're going to do with CM Punk. Maybe feud him with the FBI which might allow them to bring Shelly Martinez in as his manager (repackaged, of course)? And who has the ECW tag titles? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystic Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 right now their are no tag titles, big show's title is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagilki Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 [QUOTE=Remianen] And who has the ECW tag titles? Anyone?[/QUOTE] now you forget its now part of WWE..... Tag Teams don't matter to them.......:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Crazy Guy Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 I think they may me waiting until they get a long term TV deal before they add in any new titles. They don't want to build up something they might cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevermore Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 [QUOTE=Remianen]I'd like to see what they're going to do with CM Punk. Maybe feud him with the FBI which might allow them to bring Shelly Martinez in as his manager (repackaged, of course)? And who has the ECW tag titles? Anyone?[/QUOTE] It would also make for some quality matches. Lil' Guido and Punk are both very solid technicians. It would be tres interesting... Quote The Raven Nevermore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 [QUOTE=jagilki]now you forget its now part of WWE..... Tag Teams don't matter to them.......:mad:[/QUOTE] Yeah, which is really stupid considering how many of their biggest stars came out of their tag team division (hello Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart). Imagine how much merchandising money they could make if they could find the next Dudley Boyz? Hell, they've got an entire stable out there ripe for the picking (Teddy Hart, Harry Smith, Bret, Anvil, and Nattie) that would be CRAZY marketable. And I don't think there's any danger of ECW not having a TV slot. WWE has enough clout and Viacom has enough cable stations to come up with SOMETHING. If not, I'm almost positive Disney would be willing to step in and put ECW on one of the ESPN stations (there's what, like 8 of 'em now?) which would be a perfect fit, demographically. That would probably give them a lock on one of, if not [B]the[/B], most coveted demographic group in business (the all-important 18-49 year old male). It would give Disney a foot in the door with the 'E when their USA contract is up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlawson Posted July 7, 2006 Author Share Posted July 7, 2006 Yeah, and if Vince doesn't ruin them, ECW on name alone could stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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