Adam Ryland Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Boon, there's a small issue with regards to top rope finishers. I happened to play as Savage and Bobby Eaton during my first two matches, and realised that it's virtually impossible to perform the Savage Elbow or Alabama Jam. The reason is that neither has a decent set-up; as neither can "get to the top rope in one jump", the only way they can keep someone down and stunned long enough to have the move available is to perform a Finisher level move, and all of the available ones are either instant DQs or extremely hard to perform in their own right. There's two solutions. Either they need to have "Can get to top rope in one leap" checked (as this would allow them to use High level moves to set up the move - not really applicable to Eaton, but maybe for Savage) or they need a specialist set up move (for an example, Angry Gilmore in the Cornellverse has the Sky High Set Up, a move whose sole purpose is to set up a top rope elbow). In Savage's case, I think a "Savage Body Slam" would be the obvious one, as he did tend to use that as a set up in reality. It would just need to be a clone of a regular body slam, except with "Leaves Attacker" set to top rope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEWFan Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 I want to ask permission for one thing and offer help in another: First, does it bother you if I use your move file in some scenario in the future? I was thinking of converting either, the 1993 or 1995 TEW scenarios for WresSpi2, but I am too lazy to do all the moves. I promise to give credit where credit is due and all. Second, if you plan a V 2.0, let me help with WWC. I am from Puerto Rico and have a good idea of which workers worked here by the time, with trademark moves, dispositions and all. I seemed to notice several minor errors on some of the workers, mainly TNT(Savio Vega/Juan Rivera) lacking all his trademark moves, Huracan Castillo Jr's picture being wrong(the one in the pic is actually his father), Invader #2's disposition being wrong(he was a face then) and some other stuff. It is minor, but I can help with that if you want. I can also track down more workers for WWC in that era since some names are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat666 Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Thank you For this great mod!!! seriously I was like Meh, Old Wrestlers.... but I've started to play it in Carrer mode and it's so amazing... I beated Tarzan Tyler... one of a legend in Quebec lol! In my second match of my career(playing rookie to legend)... Thank you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskool Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Just like real life, Hogan's nigh-unbeatable. Sullivan hit him with about 6 finishing moves and couldn't get the pin. Rhodes wore out his bionic elbow and couldn't get the pin. Something's weird with The Big Legdrop, though; if you miss, it immediately goes into a pinning predicament (Hogan's the one being pinned) with a 54% success rate. I've never been pinned in this way, but it's sort of odd that EVERY time the leg misses, it's an immediate pinfall attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 [QUOTE=oldskool]... Something's weird with The Big Legdrop, though; if you miss, it immediately goes into a pinning predicament (Hogan's the one being pinned) with a 54% success rate. I've never been pinned in this way, but it's sort of odd that EVERY time the leg misses, it's an immediate pinfall attempt.[/QUOTE] That's the game in general: If the opponent moves from a 'botched' finisher, the AI will dive right in for the pinfall attempt. And you're right on Hogan; he's a freaking monster. I started a Nick Bockwinkel career last night and am immediately programmed against the Orange Goblin. I had to punch out the ref in my last two title defenses just to save my AWA Heavyweight belt! :) [QUOTE=TEWFan]... First, does it bother you if I use your move file in some scenario in the future?[/Quote] Kind of, heh. It would be nice if you waited longer than the two days its been released to ask. I appreciate your digging it enough to want to use it, but I'd like to have D.O.T.T. swim around on its own for a spell before allowing the data to migrate to other scenario sets. I hope you understand. I'm sure I will be more receptive to the request in the future; 'ask again later'. Plus, I'm too old for the 'All for one' mentality around here. ;) People are generally too flaky and fickle to read something as mundane as scenario credits or Read Me files. Heh... though I would appreciate any info on WWC that you can offer. Being a gringo, I'm pretty square on that scene. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyc Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Thanks again for another great version of DOTT. I am pretty awful at Wrestling Spirit 2 so far, I can hardly win anything, but with this mod I did win for the first time in a great hardcore match between Jerry Lawler and Dutch Mantell, and I finished Mantell off in style with a fireball. Thanks once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbarossa Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 ok, perhaaps i´m just blind, but where are the files? Is it below the old wrespi-sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 Thanks, Mattyc. As per Adam's suggestion (thanks, Adam; I remember this from the testing stage, yet forgot along the way - heh), I have went through all of the high fliers in the game and gave the majority of them the 'Can get to Top Rope in One Leap' attribute. On top of that, I created a 'Savage Bodyslam' move and assigned it to a bunch of A.I. move sets to help them get to the top rope quicker; those too big for the attribute mentioned above. It should help out with A.I. top rope moves. Also, I recut all of the move pictures so that they are on a uniform background. Here's an example of the move pack, for those that might want to use it: [URL="http://cyclopsltd.net/images/Green Mist 2.jpg"]Green Mist![/url] For those that have previously downloaded the data, [URL="http://cyclopsltd.net/images/DOTT_1.15.exe"]here[/URL] is a smaller .exe file with all of the new move pictures and data. I suggest installing this to your desktop (or whatever) and then cutting & pasting the stuff where it belongs. For those that have not downloaded this yet, the D.O.T.T.exe on my server has been updated. Sorry about the hassle, but it's worth the quick update to get that fixed. [QUOTE=barbarossa]ok, perhaaps i´m just blind, but where are the files? Is it below the old wrespi-sign?[/QUOTE] Yeah. I'm waiting to see if Adam & GDS post a new WreSpi2 logo. Until then, I am using last years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidEFC Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 It tooke me a few minutes before to work out where it was in file section of that site. Anyway DOTT rules I have always enjoyed playing it on TEW2005. So thanks for making it on WS2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 [QUOTE=D. Boon's Ghost]Yeah. I'm waiting to see if Adam & GDS post a new WreSpi2 logo. Until then, I am using last years.[/QUOTE] There's no logo, but the box art is [URL="https://www.elicense.com/greydogsoftware/store/index.asp"]here[/URL]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderndaywarrior Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Boon,If I can make one suggestion: Change the cheating level of "Over the Top Rope Toss",i think it would be more consistent with the time period if that drew a DQ right off the bat (assuming the ref sees it). Otherwise the CPU has a tendency to hit you with it every single match (sometimes 2 or 3 times in a match). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 Good idea, Warrior. Will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 For those interested: I recolored the match screens to better mesh with the blue scheme of the new move pictures and existing profile pics. Here are some test screen shots to give you an idea: [URL="http://cyclopsltd.net/images/ScreenTest1.jpg"]Test Screen #1[/URL] [URL="http://cyclopsltd.net/images/ScreenTest2.jpg"]Test Screen #2[/URL] [URL="http://cyclopsltd.net/images/ScreenTest3.jpg"]Test Screen #3[/URL] If interested, [URL="http://cyclopsltd.net/images/Screens.zip"]Here[/URL] is the .zip file. Just throw them in to your GDS\WreSpi 2\Screens directory, overwriting the old ones. On the event you want to revert back, within the .zip I have renamed the old screens so that you can plug them back in. All you will have to do is rename the m_managerOLD to m_manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Just FINALLY got a 'That Was Awesome' chant playing with Robbie Brookside. losing to the Great Malumba in 21 minutes after working his arm all match! Now all I need to do is actually win a singles match with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderndaywarrior Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 In the same vein,my 16 year old Tecnichian rookie just carried Blade Runner Rock to an A* match,to say I was excited was an understatement. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Some joker just gave me a Southwest Junior Heavyweight title shot in a First Blood match against Hector Guerrero... and against all the odds, I won, finishing him with a loaded boot kick to the head! My first A* with Brookside as well - things are looking up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 I'm not sure what is funnier -- Brookside in Texas, or his using a freaking loaded boot to cheat his way to victory! I suspect Kendo Nagasaki's hypnotism has sent Robbie on a mission of insanity. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderndaywarrior Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Actually,in my 3rd match ever,Bill Watts puts me against Lord Humongous for the Lousiana State Title,I managed to down him with the Sit Ou Underhook Face Buster for the win,B rated match.....Terry Allen is now probably upset with me for stealing his mega push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsmeister Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 my proudest moment to date on DOTT is defeating King Kong Bundy with my Rookie to Legend character (me). I am only an E in mid south and worked his legs as much as i could and made him tap to my Scissored Ankle Lock. got a C- i know he wasnt the monster he became but it was an achievement for me saying i only won 15 and lost 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Hah! I just finished a fabulous match between Adrian Street (my character) & Cowboy Ron Bass vs. Superstar Graham & Bobby Duncum. We spent the majority of it working over both Graham & Duncum's leg, knocking both down into the red (which wasnt hard to do, I admit, considering their shape). Anyway, Graham totally hulked out and went on a pounding spree. I mean, he started destroying us; even clamping on his Swinging Full Nelson at one point, which Bass miraculously escaped from (on his own, no less!). I guess Superstar Billy got really irked at having to limp around so much, heh; he ended up throwing Street over the top rope - getting his team DQ'ed! :) A complete blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Cartwright Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I've had a bunch of fun matches in my career with Bret Hart. I was booked in a match with The Spoiler in AGPW. The Spoiler is far more over than Bret Hart in the Maritimes so I struggled. About 8 minutes into the match, I gave him in Irish Whip and knocked the referee down. I immediately left the ring and grabbed a chair. I then beat the hell out of The Spoiler hitting about 5 moves in a row using the chair, finishing it off with a Piledriver. After the Piledriver, The Spoiler picked me up and gave me a chair shot to the head just as the referee recovered. The Spoiler was DQ'd, I won the match, and I gained some decent popularity. Eddie Guerrero taught me well. I've also had some fun tags with Owen and Keith Hart againt The Karachi Vice Kingpins. One match that featured me and Owen againt the Kingpins lasted 46 minutes and was an "A" rated match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEWFan Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I have had so much fun with this mod! I decided to play an exhibition match with Hulk Hogan to see how he played...I mean, in all leagues I play his results suck, so I tought it had to be something about him that made him suck so much. I started pushing down randomly to select my opponent(with my eyes closed) and the winner was Jos LeDuc. Fun little match, I mean, the guy basically squashed me. I decide to counter a punch with the finger waggle-thingy. It works! Then I manage to whip him, big boot, legdrop, win! That is so like Hulk! Then I played the European League with Andre. Won with only one loss, against Adrian Street when I "accidentaly" choke him far too much. Played superstar mode with Canek. They never booked me in Japan, so I decided to stick to Mexico. Lost all but one match before I gave up, but my win was memorable since I pinned Hijo del Santo. He dominated me, but then I made a huge comeback and hit the Canek Press for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooodaddy Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I have really had a lot of fun with the DOTT mod. I am doing the rookie to legend career and created a mammoth brawler by the name of Big Daddy Delicious. I am currently signed with the CWA and MAW. I have a tag team with Rick Rude called "Simply Delicious". I am the current holder of the Mid- Heavyweight title and have a record of 24 wins and 5 loses. I just signed with the PPW and I am a main-eventer. I have a current feud with Rocky Johnson.... I am one big mean dude....:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Boons Ghost Posted July 5, 2006 Author Share Posted July 5, 2006 I am starting to get jealous, heh... 24-5, woodaddy?? Egads. I'm playing as Lord Humongous and having a miserable time sticking at even close to .500. After two months, I am now at 7-12, or something pitiful. :) My strategy of sticking to Mid South is backfiring, as I've got Terry-freaking-Taylor as a roadblock. Every time Bill Watts throws me a Rick Steiner or Tim Horner to destroy and gain some career momentum, it's Terry Taylor who beats Humongous back down into depression. 'I don't like my recent losing streak.' Oh no? Well go out there and beat the @%!#&, you hockey mask wearing wimp!! And even when losing, it's still fun. Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooodaddy Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Oh, it's great, since that post I have went to 31 - 9. I have a decent strategy going into the matches, but sometimes they backfire.. I have lost 3 matches in a row and dropped some major popularity, but i have the guy beat and miss my finisher and then they get me in a roll up pin and win... I can't figure that one out... :D Yeah, Terry and Steiner are my thorn too. Rick beat me for MY !!!! Louisiana Title by God... I will get it back if it the last thing I do. I did get the chance to start and win a feud with Magnum T.A and got his TV title... so, all is well.... Keep your head up Lord Humongous... Your time will come... I will have your back....:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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