C-Verse Women's Revolution IX Edition - The OG Women's Expansion Mod

[alpha2117]

34 minutes ago, willr0ck said:

 

My bad, I'll get the DB file posted to mediafire at some point today. I had to take my daughter to practice yesterday, then we watched All, BD's been her favorite wrestler since she was old enough to understand what's actually going on, so I got caught up in all of her joy yesterday and it kind of slipped my mind. 

 

As far as a tutorial, sure. It's very similar to creating the other types of AI wrestler images but you just use "comic book art style" in the prompt instead of Daz style render, or ugh, vomit emoji - realistic style. (Sorry, vehemently hate the realistic style images with every ounce of my soul) Here's an example below:

 

create a high resolution image, comic book art style, on a solid white background, of a Australian, female, pro wrestler, w/long, flowing blonde hair, heart shaped, long, attractive (or unattractive, or chubby or whatever) facial features, w/a toned physique, w/a confident, smiling facial expression, wearing a light blue sports bra w/silver trim, & a sequined. decorative blue entrance robe

just use that as a base and switch out whatever features, body type, outfits, expressions etc.

Family is always more important than a fun hobby especially when they are little.  One of the reasons I love wrestling is my dad was a lovely man but also a dour hard working man who wasn't especially playful.  He would watch Joe the Gadget Man on TV of a Sunday because he loved to work with his hands and then WCW (the old Australian one) would come on and he would sometimes mock wrestle with me afterwards as you do with small kids who are hyped up after watching it.  I loved that and so did he I think.  Enjoy those moments with your daughter because they will always mean something to both of you and they seem to grow up very fast.

Loved the little tutorial - is there an AI program you prefer using that you've found gives good results?  I doubt I will use it much but it might be fun to give it a go and see what happens - I always wanted to be more talented artistically than I am but I just never had a feel for music or art no matter how hard I tried or how much i wished I could be better and the AI seems to give people like me the opportunity to have a bit of fun without having the natural gifts that some people are lucky to have been given.  Oh and the different styles are of course personal taste ... I like the realistic ones as well as the other two styles you mentioned and I think all the styles have their place, I'm happy you've found one that appeals to you and the results are definitely great.   

[willr0ck]

2 hours ago, alpha2117 said:

Family is always more important than a fun hobby especially when they are little.  One of the reasons I love wrestling is my dad was a lovely man but also a dour hard working man who wasn't especially playful.  He would watch Joe the Gadget Man on TV of a Sunday because he loved to work with his hands and then WCW (the old Australian one) would come on and he would sometimes mock wrestle with me afterwards as you do with small kids who are hyped up after watching it.  I loved that and so did he I think.  Enjoy those moments with your daughter because they will always mean something to both of you and they seem to grow up very fast.

Loved the little tutorial - is there an AI program you prefer using that you've found gives good results?  I doubt I will use it much but it might be fun to give it a go and see what happens - I always wanted to be more talented artistically than I am but I just never had a feel for music or art no matter how hard I tried or how much i wished I could be better and the AI seems to give people like me the opportunity to have a bit of fun without having the natural gifts that some people are lucky to have been given.  Oh and the different styles are of course personal taste ... I like the realistic ones as well as the other two styles you mentioned and I think all the styles have their place, I'm happy you've found one that appeals to you and the results are definitely great.   

That's awesome. I used to watch wrestling with my grandpa when I was a little kid. He absolutely adored Ricky Steamboat. I don't think I would like wrestling as I do now if it wasn't for him.

 

As far as AI programs, I tend to mainly use gpt+, but also use Bing some as well. Sometimes gpt+ goes brian dead for a day or two and starts churning out utter garbage so I switch over to Bing for a bit. If you don't want to pay for a service just roll with Bing.

 

Here's the updated DB link:

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/i3h4fko4437segv/TEW9.mdb/file

[Teasenitryn]

I can't speak for chatgpt plus but bing is definitely serviceable. I have used Bing and I plugged for a month of the basic plan on midjourney ($10 a month for around 200 prompts a month) to see what the fuss was about. Bing you can definitely get good results but I find with female wrestlers it will put together images that it then decides are too sexualised to show me and I will spend several times with the same prompt trying to get an image.

Midjourney there is a definite line I have accidentally crossed, i wanted something skimpy it took it to mean softcore porn and wouldn't put together an image at all, but it won't put together something it isn't willing to share. Bing also has issues with more edgy content which a visual example is probably going to explain better than words, Chainsaw Charlene from the alt cverse mod

Bing 

 

Midjourney 

Like Bing is definitely good enough for most things and is free but while it will for some reason show someone holding a gun when I ask for fingerguns it draws the line at someone holding a chainsaw and that is before we get to the blood spatter.

Edited August 26 by Teasenitryn

[The Swanton825]

7 hours ago, willr0ck said:

My bad, I'll get the DB file posted to mediafire at some point today. I had to take my daughter to practice yesterday, then we watched All In, BD's been her favorite wrestler since she was old enough to understand what's actually going on, so I got caught up in all of her joy yesterday and it kind of slipped my mind.

Man, I wish I'd been able to get anyone in my family as into wrestling as I was back in the day. I tried introducing it to my little sister and the only result was that she found Rhino's promo work to be absolutely hilarious.

[DarK_RaideR]

I too often struggle with Bing deciding something is too smutty or violent to show me. Was mostly curious to see willrock's prompts so I could reverse engineer his process, in a way. See what kind of things I need to input in order to get such results. If there's one thing I learned today is I'm being way to frivolous with my inputs, I'm amazed I'm getting as decent results as I seem to.

Thanks for the updated database link.

[willr0ck]

1 hour ago, The Swanton825 said:

Man, I wish I'd been able to get anyone in my family as into wrestling as I was back in the day. I tried introducing it to my little sister and the only result was that she found Rhino's promo work to be absolutely hilarious.

I'm super happy she is into it, it wasn't intentional she just gravitates to stuff I like. It helps she's a total tomboy and would rather play/watch sports then play with dolls and stuff like that.

1 hour ago, DarK_RaideR said:

I too often struggle with Bing deciding something is too smutty or violent to show me. Was mostly curious to see willrock's prompts so I could reverse engineer his process, in a way. See what kind of things I need to input in order to get such results. If there's one thing I learned today is I'm being way to frivolous with my inputs, I'm amazed I'm getting as decent results as I seem to.

Thanks for the updated database link.

The issue with Bing as you said is they block almost everything. I have been reported so many times and suspended a few as well. I guess it doesn't help that after they block a prompt a good 20-30 times in a row I get pissed and proceed to send a profanity laden message to the support people. But hey, it makes me feel better. One thing I have had luck with in both bing and gpt is separating descriptions with commas. Like instead of white female, or black woman, I go with white, female or if they are extra blocky that day I'll switch it up to American, women's pro wrestler or something like that. GPT is a little more lenient since it's a paid service.

[Teasenitryn]

My thing with trying chatgpt plus would be that it uses dall-e which I believe is the same as bing. So essentially I would be paying $20 a month to have a few fewer restrictions and maybe I get closer to the midjourney Charlene i posted above, thing there is I can get that for $10 a month lol, so long as I don't want more than 200 prompts a month. Saying that I do like chatgpt on the free plan in text prompts for suggesting names for stables or for writing promos to get me into my character's head.

Edited August 26 by Teasenitryn

[tcjohnsonx]

I've been using Playground AI, and it does really well in my estimation for a free-ish service.  It has paid plans that give you more image generation features, but for basic stuff, it churns out pretty good stuff and has given me a chance to make images for my rosters in large quantities.  You sometimes have to spam a prompt to get fine-tuned results, but if you have to use something for large quantities (50 images per day, with the ability to do additional images after waiting 30 seconds to a minute), there might not be many more affordable solutions.  Some examples:

[moststay]

Just to clarify does this mod only have the animated renders for the workers, instead of the new realistic style TEW IX is using this year?

[willr0ck]

23 hours ago, Teasenitryn said:

My thing with trying chatgpt plus would be that it uses dall-e which I believe is the same as bing. So essentially I would be paying $20 a month to have a few fewer restrictions and maybe I get closer to the midjourney Charlene i posted above, thing there is I can get that for $10 a month lol, so long as I don't want more than 200 prompts a month. Saying that I do like chatgpt on the free plan in text prompts for suggesting names for stables or for writing promos to get me into my character's head.

Chatgpt use dall-e 4 I believe, while Bing uses dall-e 3. Not a huge difference but 4 seems to spell a little better and produce less crazyness. But if I didn't use it for a ton of other stuff I could see not justifying spending $20 on it. I've used midjourney before and liked it I burn through those prompts pretty quick. 

23 hours ago, tcjohnsonx said:

I've been using Playground AI, and it does really well in my estimation for a free-ish service.  It has paid plans that give you more image generation features, but for basic stuff, it churns out pretty good stuff and has given me a chance to make images for my rosters in large quantities.  You sometimes have to spam a prompt to get fine-tuned results, but if you have to use something for large quantities (50 images per day, with the ability to do additional images after waiting 30 seconds to a minute), there might not be many more affordable solutions.  Some examples:

Those look good. I'll have to check that site out at some point and see what I can come up with.

14 hours ago, moststay said:

Just to clarify does this mod only have the animated renders for the workers, instead of the new realistic style TEW IX is using this year?

Currently it uses comic book style worker pics only. In the future I plan on releasing AI pics closer to the daz style, and I also have the old picture folder where I rendered every worker pic in daz. But as far as the realistic style goes, there will not be worker pics available in that style.

[willr0ck]

It just occurred to me that I did not link the original renders made in Daz for TEW 2020 in the thread. If anyone prefers those then a link has been posted on the first page and below as well:

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/pq19350yt6cufl8/Daz+Graphics.zip/file

Edited August 27 by willr0ck

[Teasenitryn]

1 hour ago, willr0ck said:

Chatgpt use dall-e 4 I believe, while Bing uses dall-e 3. Not a huge difference but 4 seems to spell a little better and produce less crazyness. But if I didn't use it for a ton of other stuff I could see not justifying spending $20 on it. I've used midjourney before and liked it I burn through those prompts pretty quick. 

Oh yeah I'm not making a whole mod, I'm doing pictures of characters I like in my save for fun, especially when I look at Bizarro or Silent Mime and I am all...I couldn't take this person as a sinister scary force seriously, there's a whole lot of difference, so yeah I can justify $10 a month when I feel like doing a few, $20-25 not so much. If I were trying to pump out 50-100 a day then yeah I look at the next one up in midjourney especially if the server time when you don't have tokens is quick enough to make do (you don't get that at the basic plan) or at chatgpt.

[alpha2117]

On 8/27/2024 at 9:05 AM, tcjohnsonx said:

I've been using Playground AI, and it does really well in my estimation for a free-ish service.  It has paid plans that give you more image generation features, but for basic stuff, it churns out pretty good stuff and has given me a chance to make images for my rosters in large quantities.  You sometimes have to spam a prompt to get fine-tuned results, but if you have to use something for large quantities (50 images per day, with the ability to do additional images after waiting 30 seconds to a minute), there might not be many more affordable solutions.  Some examples:

I like those very much.  Thanks for sharing.

[moststay]

3 hours ago, willr0ck said:

Currently it uses comic book style worker pics only. In the future I plan on releasing AI pics closer to the daz style, and I also have the old picture folder where I rendered every worker pic in daz. But as far as the realistic style goes, there will not be worker pics available in that style.

Ok, thanks.

Does anyone know if there is any mod out yet with similar pictures, but for the whole database?

[willr0ck]

13 minutes ago, moststay said:

Ok, thanks.

Does anyone know if there is any mod out yet with similar pictures, but for the whole database?

It's not complete yet but I'm working on it:

 

 

[tcjohnsonx]

Same group of people, but rendered in DAZ style, but I really enjoyed the comic-inspired art, so I shifted to that.  Again, for a free program, it puts out some pretty nice quality content especially if you're just doing pics for your own promotion

[tcjohnsonx]

Sorry about the large sizes - forgot that I didn't scale them down

[EdJames]

These images are absolute class. Love the style.

[Rhysrob]

Kudos @willr0ck, this mod saved the day on the last TEW for me and no doubt it'll do the same again, so thank you thank you thank you.

"The OG women's expansion" cracked me up-- Let people know who was first 😂💫

[willr0ck]

12 hours ago, tcjohnsonx said:

Sorry about the large sizes - forgot that I didn't scale them down

No worries, those look good.

3 hours ago, EdJames said:

These images are absolute class. Love the style.

Thanks! I'm glad people are digging these.

2 hours ago, Rhysrob said:

Kudos @willr0ck, this mod saved the day on the last TEW for me and no doubt it'll do the same again, so thank you thank you thank you.

"The OG women's expansion" cracked me up-- Let people know who was first 😂💫

Thanks! I did laugh a little bit to myself when I posted that. Sometimes you gotta check these fools!

[DarK_RaideR]

So I decided to have a go at willr0ck's more detailed method, using Bing and this portrait for inspiration:

My prompt was "create a high resolution image, comic book art style, on a solid white background, of a male, pro wrestler, wearing a white mask with a large red cross on it". With a bit of background removal/replacement, here are the 4 results I got, in their original and cropped versions:

 

 

 

 

Yep, could definately see me employing more of this style...

[willr0ck]

55 minutes ago, DarK_RaideR said:

So I decided to have a go at willr0ck's more detailed method, using Bing and this portrait for inspiration:

My prompt was "create a high resolution image, comic book art style, on a solid white background, of a male, pro wrestler, wearing a white mask with a large red cross on it". With a bit of background removal/replacement, here are the 4 results I got, in their original and cropped versions:

 

 

 

 

Yep, could definately see me employing more of this style...

Those are great! I especially like the ones that are cropped from the chest up, as they look more akin to the OG CV renders. Keep it up! Gimmicky workers and masked workers are especially fun as you can kind of go into straight up horror monster, or superhero with powers if you want. My ZEN roster is a good example of that. 

[DarK_RaideR]

Thank you sir. Also, finally getting to check out the database, here's a quick list of fixes

- Alter Egos: Mirai Kajahara/Kitsune Danger and SUPREME Yoshida/Liberty Yoshida don't have images assigned. Also, the former doesn't have a mask as an alter ego. Not sure if she's meant to have the kitsune mask there or if it's just a change of name.

- Company Relationships: Battle Angels Joshi and Wild Lotus Joshi have a pre-set relationship but neither company is active at the start of a game.

- Workers: Nocturna has both the Fearless and Risk Taker attributes, which trigger a "has more than one clashing attribute regarding stunt bumps" response. Onryo, Petra Forsbaerg, Porsche, Sarah Rioli, Suki Flash, Talia Neema and Tatum Richards have a few empty lines after the end of their bios. Couple of other workers are missing a few letters from the end of their bio. Platypus Mask is missing a portrait (it's not in the picture pack).

[YBDynamo]

On 8/26/2024 at 6:23 PM, willr0ck said:

I'm super happy she is into it, it wasn't intentional she just gravitates to stuff I like. It helps she's a total tomboy and would rather play/watch sports then play with dolls and stuff like that.

The issue with Bing as you said is they block almost everything. I have been reported so many times and suspended a few as well. I guess it doesn't help that after they block a prompt a good 20-30 times in a row I get pissed and proceed to send a profanity laden message to the support people. But hey, it makes me feel better. One thing I have had luck with in both bing and gpt is separating descriptions with commas. Like instead of white female, or black woman, I go with white, female or if they are extra blocky that day I'll switch it up to American, women's pro wrestler or something like that. GPT is a little more lenient since it's a paid service.

I just tried using the bing ai for the first time and it seems to block any results that include both female and wrestler in the prompts

[willr0ck]

6 hours ago, DarK_RaideR said:

Thank you sir. Also, finally getting to check out the database, here's a quick list of fixes

- Alter Egos: Mirai Kajahara/Kitsune Danger and SUPREME Yoshida/Liberty Yoshida don't have images assigned. Also, the former doesn't have a mask as an alter ego. Not sure if she's meant to have the kitsune mask there or if it's just a change of name.

- Company Relationships: Battle Angels Joshi and Wild Lotus Joshi have a pre-set relationship but neither company is active at the start of a game.

- Workers: Nocturna has both the Fearless and Risk Taker attributes, which trigger a "has more than one clashing attribute regarding stunt bumps" response. Onryo, Petra Forsbaerg, Porsche, Sarah Rioli, Suki Flash, Talia Neema and Tatum Richards have a few empty lines after the end of their bios. Couple of other workers are missing a few letters from the end of their bio. Platypus Mask is missing a portrait (it's not in the picture pack).

Noted, I'll have these fixed before the updated file is released. Platypus Mask's render will be in the updated pic pack. I haven't released it yet as I wanted to get some more events done beforehand. I'll drop a link for that over the weekend.

5 hours ago, YBDynamo said:

I just tried using the bing ai for the first time and it seems to block any results that include both female and wrestler in the prompts

Bing gets in a mood sometimes and starts blocking everything. Try using she instead of female, or woman, like "22 year old, American, pro wrestler, she has long, blonde hair" - that may work, or try "pro wrestler & body builder", or "pro wrestler & MMA fighter" if pro wrestler by itself keeps getting blocked. If that doesn't work step away and come back to Bing later and it may ease up a bit on the block fest. This is one of the main reasons I pay for gpt+.