GridironGamer Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Are pass coverage ratings abstracted? If not how do I determine who the MLB covers in a man defense on a passing play. Basically, is there a guide to knowing which defenders are covering which WRs and RBs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Arlie Rahn Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Just look at both play diagrams. If it's a M2M scheme, remove the blitzers. if the MLB is not blitzing or playing zone, he will cover the RB. Same goes for the S with the TE. For M2M, the "PCB" will end up covering the top WR and "SCB" on the 2nd. The nickel and dime DBs will cover the 3rd and 4th WR (or TE). But, again, the best way to look at the coverage is to look at the play diagram. With the exception of PCB and LCB moving to the top WRs on man, that will be the coverage you see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlie Rahn Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Just look at both play diagrams. If it's a M2M scheme, remove the blitzers. if the MLB is not blitzing or playing zone, he will cover the RB. Same goes for the S with the TE. For M2M, the "PCB" will end up covering the top WR and "SCB" on the 2nd. The nickel and dime DBs will cover the 3rd and 4th WR (or TE). But, again, the best way to look at the coverage is to look at the play diagram. With the exception of PCB and LCB moving to the top WRs on man, that will be the coverage you see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hansen Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Arlie- While in a nickel defense, the nickel back is shown lined up on the TE side of the offensive formation closer to the TE than the SS which is playing "back". With no blitzing, is it the nickel back's responsibility to cover the TE vs. the SS in this package? You mentioned in this post that the PCB always cover's the opponent's best receiver. Looks like the SE is always the best receiver on a team, so I've always "assumed" my PCB takes the SE while my SCB gets the FL and SS covers the TE in a 4-3 defense with MTM and no blitzing. Correct? When the offensive is in TRIPS formation where the SE, FL, and WR3 are all on the left (weak side of the formation), I assume the SCB rotates over to that side of the field to cover the FL in a 4-3 MTM defense. That leaves only the SS on the strong side of the formation to cover the TE. Correct? Lastly, with all things being equal, when an opponent goes to a TRIPS formation in order to overload that side of the field with 3 receivers, I assume the intent is to force MTM coverage by the defense...these three receivers would "overload" a zone defense and have a greater opportunity of success versus MTM. True? Lastly, could the option to double team an opponent's receivers be consider in future updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hansen Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Arlie- While in a nickel defense, the nickel back is shown lined up on the TE side of the offensive formation closer to the TE than the SS which is playing "back". With no blitzing, is it the nickel back's responsibility to cover the TE vs. the SS in this package? You mentioned in this post that the PCB always cover's the opponent's best receiver. Looks like the SE is always the best receiver on a team, so I've always "assumed" my PCB takes the SE while my SCB gets the FL and SS covers the TE in a 4-3 defense with MTM and no blitzing. Correct? When the offensive is in TRIPS formation where the SE, FL, and WR3 are all on the left (weak side of the formation), I assume the SCB rotates over to that side of the field to cover the FL in a 4-3 MTM defense. That leaves only the SS on the strong side of the formation to cover the TE. Correct? Lastly, with all things being equal, when an opponent goes to a TRIPS formation in order to overload that side of the field with 3 receivers, I assume the intent is to force MTM coverage by the defense...these three receivers would "overload" a zone defense and have a greater opportunity of success versus MTM. True? Lastly, could the option to double team an opponent's receivers be consider in future updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hansen Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 As a followup to my post... When a team is in a TRIPS formation and I'm playing a 4-3 MTM defense with no blitzing, I assume my PCB covers the SE, SCB vs. FL...who takes the WR3 in this case...the WLB or the FS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hansen Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 As a followup to my post... When a team is in a TRIPS formation and I'm playing a 4-3 MTM defense with no blitzing, I assume my PCB covers the SE, SCB vs. FL...who takes the WR3 in this case...the WLB or the FS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlerjrh Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I would hope the FS would cause I certainly wouldn't want a linebacker trying to cover a reciever than can just run past him while my saftey comes up to help with the run and gets blown up by a blocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlerjrh Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I would hope the FS would cause I certainly wouldn't want a linebacker trying to cover a reciever than can just run past him while my saftey comes up to help with the run and gets blown up by a blocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlie Rahn Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 If you play the nickel or dime and the opponent has fewer than 3 WRs, the nickel guy will take the TE. If you have 3 WR and a base 4 DB lineup, the FS will take the 3rd WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlie Rahn Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 If you play the nickel or dime and the opponent has fewer than 3 WRs, the nickel guy will take the TE. If you have 3 WR and a base 4 DB lineup, the FS will take the 3rd WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miral Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 So then in a 4-3 against I formation, who do the OLB's cover? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miral Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 So then in a 4-3 against I formation, who do the OLB's cover? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlie Rahn Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 [QUOTE=Miral;156725]So then in a 4-3 against I formation, who do the OLB's cover? :)[/QUOTE] Again, a lot depends on the individual play, but here's the general rule of thumb for man coverage (DB can be nickel or dime): WR1: PCB WR2: SCB WR3: DB, FS WR4: DB, FS, SS TE: DB, SS, FS, SLB RB: DB, MLB, FS, WLB FB: DB, WLB, FS There are differences, but this will give you an idea of order of preference for coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlie Rahn Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 [QUOTE=Miral;156725]So then in a 4-3 against I formation, who do the OLB's cover? :)[/QUOTE] Again, a lot depends on the individual play, but here's the general rule of thumb for man coverage (DB can be nickel or dime): WR1: PCB WR2: SCB WR3: DB, FS WR4: DB, FS, SS TE: DB, SS, FS, SLB RB: DB, MLB, FS, WLB FB: DB, WLB, FS There are differences, but this will give you an idea of order of preference for coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanwa Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Great info and a quick ? For whatever reason I'm having a hard time figuring out what atts are most important for coverage, press and zone type DBs. I'm assuming cover is for m2m and press is for BnR type coverages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanwa Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Great info and a quick ? For whatever reason I'm having a hard time figuring out what atts are most important for coverage, press and zone type DBs. I'm assuming cover is for m2m and press is for BnR type coverages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hansen Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Arlie provided the following info a while back regarding the order of attribute importance for COVER CB's and ZONE CB's: MTM-COVER CB: 1. coverage 2. speed 3. agility 4. accel 5. instincts 6. jumping ZONE CB: 1. coverage 2. agility 3. instincts 4. speed 5. accel 6. jumping Don't have any info on PRESS CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hansen Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Arlie provided the following info a while back regarding the order of attribute importance for COVER CB's and ZONE CB's: MTM-COVER CB: 1. coverage 2. speed 3. agility 4. accel 5. instincts 6. jumping ZONE CB: 1. coverage 2. agility 3. instincts 4. speed 5. accel 6. jumping Don't have any info on PRESS CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlie Rahn Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Press Man CBs: 1. coverage 2. speed 3. strength 4. instincts 5. agility 6. accel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlie Rahn Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Press Man CBs: 1. coverage 2. speed 3. strength 4. instincts 5. agility 6. accel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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