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[QUOTE=Arlie Rahn;157815]Hmm, that's the exact case that should have been fixed with 1.48. I will check the logic again, I may have made a mistake.[/QUOTE] I have the file save at that excat location so we can reproduce the results with whatever poll logic you want just let me know and ill do it for ya.
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[QUOTE=Arlie Rahn;157817]Would you guys mind sending me the save right before the bowl games? That way I can try with this format and see if something is missing on my end.[/QUOTE] I got it uploading right now, as soon as it is finished ill post the link for ya.
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[QUOTE=Arlie Rahn;157817]Would you guys mind sending me the save right before the bowl games? That way I can try with this format and see if something is missing on my end.[/QUOTE] I got it uploading right now, as soon as it is finished ill post the link for ya.
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[QUOTE=Arlie Rahn;157817]Would you guys mind sending me the save right before the bowl games? That way I can try with this format and see if something is missing on my end.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.simons.net/tristan/bbcf/ncaa89.zip"]Test File for ya[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Arlie Rahn;157817]Would you guys mind sending me the save right before the bowl games? That way I can try with this format and see if something is missing on my end.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.simons.net/tristan/bbcf/ncaa89.zip"]Test File for ya[/URL]
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Looks awesome so far! Thanks, Arlie! Here's my list of minor things for 1.49... most make almost no difference in the game experience, but I thought I'd mention them anyway (of course some of these issues could just be with my save): - I had a player win the Special Teams Player of the Year Award. In the "Award Winners" screen, he's shown as having 3 fair catches and 9 TD's. In his player page, he has 9 fair catches and 3 TD's. One or the other is incorrect. - In Overtime, the clock reads 32 minutes and some odd number of seconds. Better just to shut the clock off. - At the beginning of OT, the yardage marker on the field is in the same location as at the end of regulation. The first play, however, does correctly start from the 25. - Consider taking a look at overtime AI when the CPU has a chance to kick a game-winning field goal (after the opponent has failed to score at all during his turn). The CPU has a tendency to think it needs a touchdown when a makeable field goal will win the game. - When the CPU makes an injury substitution during a game, each player moves up the depth chart, but the #4 slot still contains the name of the player who moved up to #3, making him listed twice. And if I try to save the depth chart in this situation, the error message will give the name of the wrong player as being listed twice on the same depth chart. - Scouting a player, then clicking "Clear scout" (or recruiting a player, then clicking "Clear action") within the same turn leaves a player highlighted yellow, and still on the recruited list. - Minor typo on PBP for line-drive kicks that go out of the end zone: "Not a pretty kick, but it get's the job done." Remove apostrophe. - In the recruiting watch list screen, scrolling through players using the up/down arrows on the player pages produces odd results. If the last player on the watch list is a CB, for example, continuing to hit the down arrow will bring up the pages of more CB's who were never on the watch list. Hitting the up arrow again only brings up previous CB's, not players on the watch list. - Clicking "remove watch" on a player while in the watch list screen does not immediately remove him like it does on the recruiting screen. Refreshing the watch list does remove him, however. - Occasionally, hitting the "Load" button immediately after selecting "Load League" will result in a "No Save Data Available" error message. This may be a Windows issue. Waiting even one second eliminates the problem. - Very rare game freezes during extended play, but since I can't replicate it, I'll be content to save every half hour or so. The following aren't really bugs, but feature tweaks that would be cool if they could be implemented. - If possible, consider making the "recruit recommendations" and "recommended recruit pitches" html pages like the "team commits" page. It would be nice to keep those open in a separate window while I'm recruiting. - I'd like to be able to see my opponent's formation at the beginning of each half, and at the beginning of OT. - Coin toss is irrelevant for regulation, but implementing it could have some strategic impact as far as OT goes. Having the choice of starting on offense or defense would be cool.
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Looks awesome so far! Thanks, Arlie! Here's my list of minor things for 1.49... most make almost no difference in the game experience, but I thought I'd mention them anyway (of course some of these issues could just be with my save): - I had a player win the Special Teams Player of the Year Award. In the "Award Winners" screen, he's shown as having 3 fair catches and 9 TD's. In his player page, he has 9 fair catches and 3 TD's. One or the other is incorrect. - In Overtime, the clock reads 32 minutes and some odd number of seconds. Better just to shut the clock off. - At the beginning of OT, the yardage marker on the field is in the same location as at the end of regulation. The first play, however, does correctly start from the 25. - Consider taking a look at overtime AI when the CPU has a chance to kick a game-winning field goal (after the opponent has failed to score at all during his turn). The CPU has a tendency to think it needs a touchdown when a makeable field goal will win the game. - When the CPU makes an injury substitution during a game, each player moves up the depth chart, but the #4 slot still contains the name of the player who moved up to #3, making him listed twice. And if I try to save the depth chart in this situation, the error message will give the name of the wrong player as being listed twice on the same depth chart. - Scouting a player, then clicking "Clear scout" (or recruiting a player, then clicking "Clear action") within the same turn leaves a player highlighted yellow, and still on the recruited list. - Minor typo on PBP for line-drive kicks that go out of the end zone: "Not a pretty kick, but it get's the job done." Remove apostrophe. - In the recruiting watch list screen, scrolling through players using the up/down arrows on the player pages produces odd results. If the last player on the watch list is a CB, for example, continuing to hit the down arrow will bring up the pages of more CB's who were never on the watch list. Hitting the up arrow again only brings up previous CB's, not players on the watch list. - Clicking "remove watch" on a player while in the watch list screen does not immediately remove him like it does on the recruiting screen. Refreshing the watch list does remove him, however. - Occasionally, hitting the "Load" button immediately after selecting "Load League" will result in a "No Save Data Available" error message. This may be a Windows issue. Waiting even one second eliminates the problem. - Very rare game freezes during extended play, but since I can't replicate it, I'll be content to save every half hour or so. The following aren't really bugs, but feature tweaks that would be cool if they could be implemented. - If possible, consider making the "recruit recommendations" and "recommended recruit pitches" html pages like the "team commits" page. It would be nice to keep those open in a separate window while I'm recruiting. - I'd like to be able to see my opponent's formation at the beginning of each half, and at the beginning of OT. - Coin toss is irrelevant for regulation, but implementing it could have some strategic impact as far as OT goes. Having the choice of starting on offense or defense would be cool.
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Hey Arlie ive been looking at the history of the Coaches and AP poll. Here are a couple good examples where the top team loses and theres alot of movement. These trends hold true up until the BCS days. Then basicly The #1 and #2 have finshed #1 and #2 depending on who won, not much movement at the top two. But below the #1 and #2 there is alot of movement. [CODE] Rnk Pv 1970 Rec Pv 1973 Rec Pv 1974 Rec Pv 1977 Rec Pv 1983 Rec 1. 3 Neb 11-0-1 3 ND 11-0 3 Oklah 11-1 5 ND 11-1 5 Miami 11-1 2. 6 ND 10-1 4 OhioSt 10-0-1 7 AzSt 12-0 3 Alabam 11-1 1 Neb 12-1 3. 1 Tex 10-1 2 Oklah 10-0-1 4 Alabam 11-1 6 Arkan 11-1 3 Aub 11-1 4. 4 Tenn 11-1 1 Alabam 11-1 1 OhioSt 11-1 1 Texas 11-1 7 Georg 10-1-1 5. 2 OhioSt 9-1 6 PennSt 12-0 11 UCLA 9-2-1 8 PennSt 11-1 2 Tex 11-1 6. 8 AzSt 11-0 5 Mich 10-0-1 9 Tex 10-2 7 Kentc 10-1 11 Flor 9-2-1 7. 5 LSU 9-3 12 Neb 9-2-1 18 Arkan 10-2 2 Oklah 10-2 9 BYU 11-1 8. 12 Stanf 9-3 7 USC 9-2-1 5 Mich 8-2-2 10 Pitt 9-2-1 8 Mich 9-3 9. 7 Mich 9-1 10 AzSt 11-1 6 Nebra 10-2 4 Mich 10-2 14 OhioSt 9-3 10. 10 Aub 9-2 14 Houst 11-1 8 PennSt 9-3 13 Wash 8-4 5 Ill 10-2 [/CODE]
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Hey Arlie ive been looking at the history of the Coaches and AP poll. Here are a couple good examples where the top team loses and theres alot of movement. These trends hold true up until the BCS days. Then basicly The #1 and #2 have finshed #1 and #2 depending on who won, not much movement at the top two. But below the #1 and #2 there is alot of movement. [CODE] Rnk Pv 1970 Rec Pv 1973 Rec Pv 1974 Rec Pv 1977 Rec Pv 1983 Rec 1. 3 Neb 11-0-1 3 ND 11-0 3 Oklah 11-1 5 ND 11-1 5 Miami 11-1 2. 6 ND 10-1 4 OhioSt 10-0-1 7 AzSt 12-0 3 Alabam 11-1 1 Neb 12-1 3. 1 Tex 10-1 2 Oklah 10-0-1 4 Alabam 11-1 6 Arkan 11-1 3 Aub 11-1 4. 4 Tenn 11-1 1 Alabam 11-1 1 OhioSt 11-1 1 Texas 11-1 7 Georg 10-1-1 5. 2 OhioSt 9-1 6 PennSt 12-0 11 UCLA 9-2-1 8 PennSt 11-1 2 Tex 11-1 6. 8 AzSt 11-0 5 Mich 10-0-1 9 Tex 10-2 7 Kentc 10-1 11 Flor 9-2-1 7. 5 LSU 9-3 12 Neb 9-2-1 18 Arkan 10-2 2 Oklah 10-2 9 BYU 11-1 8. 12 Stanf 9-3 7 USC 9-2-1 5 Mich 8-2-2 10 Pitt 9-2-1 8 Mich 9-3 9. 7 Mich 9-1 10 AzSt 11-1 6 Nebra 10-2 4 Mich 10-2 14 OhioSt 9-3 10. 10 Aub 9-2 14 Houst 11-1 8 PennSt 9-3 13 Wash 8-4 5 Ill 10-2 [/CODE]
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[QUOTE=bmfyxpp;157834]- Scouting a player, then clicking "Clear scout" (or recruiting a player, then clicking "Clear action") within the same turn leaves a player highlighted yellow, and still on the recruited list. - Clicking "remove watch" on a player while in the watch list screen does not immediately remove him like it does on the recruiting screen. Refreshing the watch list does remove him, however. - Occasionally, hitting the "Load" button immediately after selecting "Load League" will result in a "No Save Data Available" error message. This may be a Windows issue. Waiting even one second eliminates the problem.[/QUOTE] I havent really noticed the others, but these issues I can vouch for. Taking the watch list a step further, can we get a "remove from watch" button on the actual "Watch" page ? As it is now, if we are looking at the players on our watch list, we have to open the player page to remove them from the list. This is particularly annoying after a week when a bunch of players you made offers to get recruited somewhere else. I like to remove those already recruited players from the watch list, but have to open up each player page to do it.
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[QUOTE=bmfyxpp;157834]- Scouting a player, then clicking "Clear scout" (or recruiting a player, then clicking "Clear action") within the same turn leaves a player highlighted yellow, and still on the recruited list. - Clicking "remove watch" on a player while in the watch list screen does not immediately remove him like it does on the recruiting screen. Refreshing the watch list does remove him, however. - Occasionally, hitting the "Load" button immediately after selecting "Load League" will result in a "No Save Data Available" error message. This may be a Windows issue. Waiting even one second eliminates the problem.[/QUOTE] I havent really noticed the others, but these issues I can vouch for. Taking the watch list a step further, can we get a "remove from watch" button on the actual "Watch" page ? As it is now, if we are looking at the players on our watch list, we have to open the player page to remove them from the list. This is particularly annoying after a week when a bunch of players you made offers to get recruited somewhere else. I like to remove those already recruited players from the watch list, but have to open up each player page to do it.
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tc66tc, Thanks for the file. Using it I found my logic error and it was an easy fix. 1.49 will have this much better. Here are the results: AP 1. Clemson 11-0, 26 2. UCLA 10-1, 4 3. Texas 10-1, 48 4. Syracuse 11-2, 43 5. Michigan 10-1, 69 6. Oklahoma 10-1, 63 7. FSU 11-1, 87 8. BYU 12-0, 92 9. Alabama 10-1, 59 10. Georgia 10-1, 82 Coach 1. Clemson 11-0, 26 3. UCLA 10-1, 4 2. Texas 10-1, 48 4. Michigan 10-1, 69 5. Oklahoma 10-1, 63 7. FSU 11-1, 87 6. BYU 12-0, 92 9. Alabama 10-1, 59 8. Georgia 10-1, 82 10. Auburn 9-3, 49 9 Alabama 26 - 11 USC 17 6 OKlahoma 33 - 7 FSU 21 10 Georgia 44 - 13 Nebraska 16 5 Michigan 20 - 2 UCLA 12 12 Pitt 31 - 1 Clemson 28 3 Texas 38 - Miami 20 22 Ohio State 20 - 4 Syracuse 13 8 BYU 34 - 17 Texas A&M 23 AP 1(3). Texas 11-1, 54 2(5). Michigan 11-1, 60 3(8). BYU 12-0, 95 4(6). Oklahoma 11-1, 68 5(12). Pitt 11-1, 100 6(1). Clemson 11-1, 22 7(10). Georgia 11-1, 80 8(9). Alabama 11-1, 58 9(2). UCLA 10-2, 4 10(4). Syracuse 11-2, 44 Coach 1(6). BYU 12-0, 95 2(2). Texas 11-1, 54 3(4). Michigan 11-1, 60 4(5). Oklahoma 11-1, 68 5(13). Pitt 11-1, 100 6(1). Clemson 11-1, 22 7(8). Georgia 11-1, 80 8(9). Alabama 11-1, 58 9(3). UCLA 10-2, 4 10(14). Penn State 9-3, 83 (W 23-20 over Arizona) This is very interesting as we have a split champ between the polls (but the coaches' poll winner gets the championship in non-BCS format). I was thinking that BYU should win if they beat their team and Clemson lost. The logic is that BYU didn't get a lot of respect because of their horrible schedule. But, once they beat a legit team, that may be enough to give them the champ if they were the only undefeated. it is interesting that the coaches gave it to BYU (for being undefeated), but the media gave it to Texas (11-1).
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tc66tc, Thanks for the file. Using it I found my logic error and it was an easy fix. 1.49 will have this much better. Here are the results: AP 1. Clemson 11-0, 26 2. UCLA 10-1, 4 3. Texas 10-1, 48 4. Syracuse 11-2, 43 5. Michigan 10-1, 69 6. Oklahoma 10-1, 63 7. FSU 11-1, 87 8. BYU 12-0, 92 9. Alabama 10-1, 59 10. Georgia 10-1, 82 Coach 1. Clemson 11-0, 26 3. UCLA 10-1, 4 2. Texas 10-1, 48 4. Michigan 10-1, 69 5. Oklahoma 10-1, 63 7. FSU 11-1, 87 6. BYU 12-0, 92 9. Alabama 10-1, 59 8. Georgia 10-1, 82 10. Auburn 9-3, 49 9 Alabama 26 - 11 USC 17 6 OKlahoma 33 - 7 FSU 21 10 Georgia 44 - 13 Nebraska 16 5 Michigan 20 - 2 UCLA 12 12 Pitt 31 - 1 Clemson 28 3 Texas 38 - Miami 20 22 Ohio State 20 - 4 Syracuse 13 8 BYU 34 - 17 Texas A&M 23 AP 1(3). Texas 11-1, 54 2(5). Michigan 11-1, 60 3(8). BYU 12-0, 95 4(6). Oklahoma 11-1, 68 5(12). Pitt 11-1, 100 6(1). Clemson 11-1, 22 7(10). Georgia 11-1, 80 8(9). Alabama 11-1, 58 9(2). UCLA 10-2, 4 10(4). Syracuse 11-2, 44 Coach 1(6). BYU 12-0, 95 2(2). Texas 11-1, 54 3(4). Michigan 11-1, 60 4(5). Oklahoma 11-1, 68 5(13). Pitt 11-1, 100 6(1). Clemson 11-1, 22 7(8). Georgia 11-1, 80 8(9). Alabama 11-1, 58 9(3). UCLA 10-2, 4 10(14). Penn State 9-3, 83 (W 23-20 over Arizona) This is very interesting as we have a split champ between the polls (but the coaches' poll winner gets the championship in non-BCS format). I was thinking that BYU should win if they beat their team and Clemson lost. The logic is that BYU didn't get a lot of respect because of their horrible schedule. But, once they beat a legit team, that may be enough to give them the champ if they were the only undefeated. it is interesting that the coaches gave it to BYU (for being undefeated), but the media gave it to Texas (11-1).
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bmfyxpp, Thanks for the feedback and I will see what I can do. At this stage, it's very tough to make massive interface changes (adding buttons, moving content around) without setting up a whole new long set of testing (which I'd rather not do). My intent with 1.48 and 1.49 was to fix some of the remaining logic issues with the polls and address minor remaining issues. 1.46 and 1.47 were the "big" change updates. I'll check out the award winner issue and some of the typos. But, I don't know that I will be able to address the rest at this point.
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bmfyxpp, Thanks for the feedback and I will see what I can do. At this stage, it's very tough to make massive interface changes (adding buttons, moving content around) without setting up a whole new long set of testing (which I'd rather not do). My intent with 1.48 and 1.49 was to fix some of the remaining logic issues with the polls and address minor remaining issues. 1.46 and 1.47 were the "big" change updates. I'll check out the award winner issue and some of the typos. But, I don't know that I will be able to address the rest at this point.
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[QUOTE=Arlie Rahn;157887]tc66tc, Thanks for the file. Using it I found my logic error and it was an easy fix. 1.49 will have this much better. Here are the results: AP 1. Clemson 11-0, 26 2. UCLA 10-1, 4 3. Texas 10-1, 48 4. Syracuse 11-2, 43 5. Michigan 10-1, 69 6. Oklahoma 10-1, 63 7. FSU 11-1, 87 8. BYU 12-0, 92 9. Alabama 10-1, 59 10. Georgia 10-1, 82 Coach 1. Clemson 11-0, 26 3. UCLA 10-1, 4 2. Texas 10-1, 48 4. Michigan 10-1, 69 5. Oklahoma 10-1, 63 7. FSU 11-1, 87 6. BYU 12-0, 92 9. Alabama 10-1, 59 8. Georgia 10-1, 82 10. Auburn 9-3, 49 9 Alabama 26 - 11 USC 17 6 OKlahoma 33 - 7 FSU 21 10 Georgia 44 - 13 Nebraska 16 5 Michigan 20 - 2 UCLA 12 12 Pitt 31 - 1 Clemson 28 3 Texas 38 - Miami 20 22 Ohio State 20 - 4 Syracuse 13 8 BYU 34 - 17 Texas A&M 23 AP 1(3). Texas 11-1, 54 2(5). Michigan 11-1, 60 3(8). BYU 12-0, 95 4(6). Oklahoma 11-1, 68 5(12). Pitt 11-1, 100 6(1). Clemson 11-1, 22 7(10). Georgia 11-1, 80 8(9). Alabama 11-1, 58 9(2). UCLA 10-2, 4 10(4). Syracuse 11-2, 44 Coach 1(6). BYU 12-0, 95 2(2). Texas 11-1, 54 3(4). Michigan 11-1, 60 4(5). Oklahoma 11-1, 68 5(13). Pitt 11-1, 100 6(1). Clemson 11-1, 22 7(8). Georgia 11-1, 80 8(9). Alabama 11-1, 58 9(3). UCLA 10-2, 4 10(14). Penn State 9-3, 83 (W 23-20 over Arizona) This is very interesting as we have a split champ between the polls (but the coaches' poll winner gets the championship in non-BCS format). I was thinking that BYU should win if they beat their team and Clemson lost. The logic is that BYU didn't get a lot of respect because of their horrible schedule. But, once they beat a legit team, that may be enough to give them the champ if they were the only undefeated. it is interesting that the coaches gave it to BYU (for being undefeated), but the media gave it to Texas (11-1).[/QUOTE] Im glad I could be of some help to you Arlie. Yeah thats basiclly the same thing that played out in 1984 with BYU as well. The movement is actaully pretty realistic and im glad you got a split in there, I was unsure if it was possible.
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[QUOTE=Arlie Rahn;157887]tc66tc, Thanks for the file. Using it I found my logic error and it was an easy fix. 1.49 will have this much better. Here are the results: AP 1. Clemson 11-0, 26 2. UCLA 10-1, 4 3. Texas 10-1, 48 4. Syracuse 11-2, 43 5. Michigan 10-1, 69 6. Oklahoma 10-1, 63 7. FSU 11-1, 87 8. BYU 12-0, 92 9. Alabama 10-1, 59 10. Georgia 10-1, 82 Coach 1. Clemson 11-0, 26 3. UCLA 10-1, 4 2. Texas 10-1, 48 4. Michigan 10-1, 69 5. Oklahoma 10-1, 63 7. FSU 11-1, 87 6. BYU 12-0, 92 9. Alabama 10-1, 59 8. Georgia 10-1, 82 10. Auburn 9-3, 49 9 Alabama 26 - 11 USC 17 6 OKlahoma 33 - 7 FSU 21 10 Georgia 44 - 13 Nebraska 16 5 Michigan 20 - 2 UCLA 12 12 Pitt 31 - 1 Clemson 28 3 Texas 38 - Miami 20 22 Ohio State 20 - 4 Syracuse 13 8 BYU 34 - 17 Texas A&M 23 AP 1(3). Texas 11-1, 54 2(5). Michigan 11-1, 60 3(8). BYU 12-0, 95 4(6). Oklahoma 11-1, 68 5(12). Pitt 11-1, 100 6(1). Clemson 11-1, 22 7(10). Georgia 11-1, 80 8(9). Alabama 11-1, 58 9(2). UCLA 10-2, 4 10(4). Syracuse 11-2, 44 Coach 1(6). BYU 12-0, 95 2(2). Texas 11-1, 54 3(4). Michigan 11-1, 60 4(5). Oklahoma 11-1, 68 5(13). Pitt 11-1, 100 6(1). Clemson 11-1, 22 7(8). Georgia 11-1, 80 8(9). Alabama 11-1, 58 9(3). UCLA 10-2, 4 10(14). Penn State 9-3, 83 (W 23-20 over Arizona) This is very interesting as we have a split champ between the polls (but the coaches' poll winner gets the championship in non-BCS format). I was thinking that BYU should win if they beat their team and Clemson lost. The logic is that BYU didn't get a lot of respect because of their horrible schedule. But, once they beat a legit team, that may be enough to give them the champ if they were the only undefeated. it is interesting that the coaches gave it to BYU (for being undefeated), but the media gave it to Texas (11-1).[/QUOTE] Im glad I could be of some help to you Arlie. Yeah thats basiclly the same thing that played out in 1984 with BYU as well. The movement is actaully pretty realistic and im glad you got a split in there, I was unsure if it was possible.
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