littlechris1977 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Other than the current 119? What is the limit. I want to pull up some Div 1-AA teams, can I do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Deathcar Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I've been messing around with adding teams and I have run several single season tests. 1st test - Add one team for a total of 120. Everything worked as planned. Only changes I made in PStats were to the Conference table and the Team table. 2nd test - Keep team 120 and then add teams 121-126 in a new Conference. This failed. While the teams were created properly, the schedule did not give them any conference games. There may be a factor that I am not looking at but for me this is unuseable. 3rd test - place teams 121-126 in other existing conferences to a maximum of a 12 team conference. This worked as planned. Based on these, I would think that it may be a safe assumption that at least 144 teams will work (12 conferences, 12 teams each). This will actually be my next test. If anyone can tell me how to get the scheduler piece to work then that would take care of the limitations on conferences to an extent. I have actually been trying to work on a Texas 5A High School League and there are 200+ teams. While I do not think it is feasible, it would be fun to find out how to get them all in there! Another problem I run into is when I want to mess with anything to do with the Bowls. As soon as I change something I seem to get RTE's. Hope this is somewhat helpful! MD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Deathcar Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I've been messing around with adding teams and I have run several single season tests. 1st test - Add one team for a total of 120. Everything worked as planned. Only changes I made in PStats were to the Conference table and the Team table. 2nd test - Keep team 120 and then add teams 121-126 in a new Conference. This failed. While the teams were created properly, the schedule did not give them any conference games. There may be a factor that I am not looking at but for me this is unuseable. 3rd test - place teams 121-126 in other existing conferences to a maximum of a 12 team conference. This worked as planned. Based on these, I would think that it may be a safe assumption that at least 144 teams will work (12 conferences, 12 teams each). This will actually be my next test. If anyone can tell me how to get the scheduler piece to work then that would take care of the limitations on conferences to an extent. I have actually been trying to work on a Texas 5A High School League and there are 200+ teams. While I do not think it is feasible, it would be fun to find out how to get them all in there! Another problem I run into is when I want to mess with anything to do with the Bowls. As soon as I change something I seem to get RTE's. Hope this is somewhat helpful! MD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlechris1977 Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 I know that a conference has to have between 8-12 teams or the conference schedules will be screwed up. I ran into this realigning my d-1 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlechris1977 Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 I know that a conference has to have between 8-12 teams or the conference schedules will be screwed up. I ran into this realigning my d-1 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklinNoble Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Exactly how do you do this? It would be sooo cool to be able to mod the game for 1-AA teams and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklinNoble Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Exactly how do you do this? It would be sooo cool to be able to mod the game for 1-AA teams and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlechris1977 Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 Add teams to pstats.dat, which will require a city id from setup.dat for each team added. If city is already there, cool just list it. You also need colors for new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlechris1977 Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 Add teams to pstats.dat, which will require a city id from setup.dat for each team added. If city is already there, cool just list it. You also need colors for new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Vibert Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 BTW you can fake the game into creating a "conference" schedule by setting up permanently scheduled matchups into the appropriate table of the pstats.dat file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Vibert Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 BTW you can fake the game into creating a "conference" schedule by setting up permanently scheduled matchups into the appropriate table of the pstats.dat file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklinNoble Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 [quote=littlechris1977;157938]Add teams to pstats.dat, which will require a city id from setup.dat for each team added. If city is already there, cool just list it. You also need colors for new team.[/quote] Is this as complicated as it sounds? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklinNoble Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 [quote=littlechris1977;157938]Add teams to pstats.dat, which will require a city id from setup.dat for each team added. If city is already there, cool just list it. You also need colors for new team.[/quote] Is this as complicated as it sounds? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyvol Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 [QUOTE=littlechris1977;157889]I know that a conference has to have between 8-12 teams or the conference schedules will be screwed up. I ran into this realigning my d-1 teams.[/QUOTE] According to Arlie, the range is 7-14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyvol Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 [QUOTE=littlechris1977;157889]I know that a conference has to have between 8-12 teams or the conference schedules will be screwed up. I ran into this realigning my d-1 teams.[/QUOTE] According to Arlie, the range is 7-14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklinNoble Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 What do you use to edit these .dat files? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklinNoble Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 What do you use to edit these .dat files? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlechris1977 Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 If its 7-14, I'll have to rethink my conferences. Can someone confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlechris1977 Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 If its 7-14, I'll have to rethink my conferences. Can someone confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyvol Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 [QUOTE=littlechris1977;158445]If its 7-14, I'll have to rethink my conferences. Can someone confirm this?[/QUOTE] I'm confirming what I've already posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyvol Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 [QUOTE=littlechris1977;158445]If its 7-14, I'll have to rethink my conferences. Can someone confirm this?[/QUOTE] I'm confirming what I've already posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTMarc Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 To edit these files, you need a data base tool that works with MS Access data base files. For me, I already had Open Office on my computer, so the data base tool in there is what I use. Google Open Office if you are interested in freeware office software. Its pretty good. Its the Star office stuff Sun tried to create, but then gave up on. They gave it an open source license when they gave up, so now its been worked on independently as an open source office software tool. But anything that works with MS Access data base files should work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTMarc Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Cool. This is good to know for my own stuff. I may go add some teams now to flesh things out a bit. Is it possible to do this to the Stats.dat file in a save once a game is started? And, as a related question, is it possible to change the number of teams in a conference in a save of a game that's already been started. In my mod, I arranged teams in conferences by region. All 12 team conferences at the top. But some smaller conferences of the left-over lower prestige teams. In some regions, I wouldn't mind adding a few teams to flesh this out. So maybe some 1-AA teams get promoted in my fictional world. I'm also doing conference movement by hand to get the system I want. I want the winner of a lower league to automatically move up the next season, which is a bit different from Arlie's system. In the system I'd really want, the number of teams in these bottom regional conferences might change a bit from year to year depending on what's happening in the conference above them. So that's why I'd like to be able to take a save game and edit the number of teams in a conference. But I don't see the equivalent of a "conferences" table in the saved game files like I see in Pstats.dat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnDvls Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 [QUOTE=FranklinNoble;158407]Is this as complicated as it sounds? :D[/QUOTE] no it's just looking at a list of city names and see the number next to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnDvls Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 [QUOTE=FranklinNoble;158441]What do you use to edit these .dat files?[/QUOTE] Microsoft Access or Open Office I have used both and have found Open Office to be easier to use in my case as you don't have to change the file name(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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