TCP Productions Presents: Fall of the One Ring Circus '07

[CloudStrife888]

Oh and for the record most of CMLL's roster ought to have much better stamina or in-ring longevity or whatever. CMLL matches are under traditional lucha libre rules, meaning 2 out of 3 falls win the match - and probably half the matches on the card go at least 15 minutes. I just noticed that in TEW '05 most of CMLL's luchadores can barely go 10 minutes without being winded by the end of the match. :/

[TCP1]

[QUOTE=D16NJD16;169229]So charisma plays a part in match ratings in TEW 07?[/QUOTE] Good question. I was always under the assumption that lots of things went into a match rating. Psychology I always thought was part of them telling a convincing in-ring story along with basics and selling. The problem being if you up his psychology. Then he'll be a very good 'wrestler' with just poor footing. As opposed to a good entertainer who knows little about actual wrestling?

[CloudStrife888]

Charly Manson & Electro Shock are legitimately brothers. Brazo De Plata & his son, Brazo De Plata Jr. are both in AAA now. If you have to add Brazo Jr., he's got stats about like his dad's. He's not spectacular in the ring or anything - just passable. Maximo is the brother of Brazo Jr. and other son of Brazo De Plata. He's slightly better than his dad and uses a flamboyant, gay gimmick. Add Hator if you haven't, [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Hator[/url] he's pretty unspectacular from all I've seen of him. Maybe average stats, then. He's a rudo. Jeff Jarrett, Ron Killings, Samoa Joe, Elix Skipper & Sean Waltman are on the AAA roster. They're evil foreigners brought in by Konnan. Add Luzbel, aka Gronda II or Gronda AAA. [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Luzbel[/url] He's not bad by any stretch, but he's not as good as the original Gronda who is fairly agile for such a big man. Shocker supposedly has a cocaine habit, he's also wrestling for CMLL now as a main event tecnico. Electro Shock should be a free agent, he's pretty much burned all his bridges with AAA & CMLL Add Ultraman Jr. - [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Ultraman_Jr[/url]. He's the legit son of the original Ultraman, as well Scorpio Jr. wrestles for AAA now. I think he's on CMLL's roster in the last update for '05, but I may be wrong Add El Gallego - [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=El_Gallego[/url] Add Ricky Banderas to AAA, he's an upper card rudo wrestling as Muerte Cibernetica. He's currently feuding with Cibernetico, who turned tecnico. La Secta Cibernetica (Muerte's stable) - [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=La_Secta[/url] Cibernetico, Chessman & Charly Manson are all tecnicos. They're "Los Hell Brothers" now. Speaking of Cibernetico, he's dating Estrellita outside of storylines Add Vipers Revolution/Revolucion - [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Vipers_Revolution[/url] I'm *assuming* Vipers Revolution are tecnicos, as Manson is both a part of Los Hell Brothers & Vipers Revolution and Manson is a tecnico now from what I gather. Add the Mexipowers - Juventud Guerrera, Joe Lider, Crazy Boy & Psicosis II. They're tecnicos. Extreme Tiger was trained by Rey Mysterio Sr., who.. doesn't appear to be in the game. He's still an active wrestler.

[D16NJD16]

[QUOTE=CloudStrife888;169303]Charly Manson & Electro Shock are legitimately brothers. Brazo De Plata & his son, Brazo De Plata Jr. are both in AAA now. If you have to add Brazo Jr., he's got stats about like his dad's. He's not spectacular in the ring or anything - just passable. Maximo is the brother of Brazo Jr. and other son of Brazo De Plata. He's slightly better than his dad and uses a flamboyant, gay gimmick. Add Hator if you haven't, [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Hator[/url] he's pretty unspectacular from all I've seen of him. Maybe average stats, then. He's a rudo. Jeff Jarrett, Ron Killings, Samoa Joe, Elix Skipper & Sean Waltman are on the AAA roster. They're evil foreigners brought in by Konnan. Add Luzbel, aka Gronda II or Gronda AAA. [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Luzbel[/url] He's not bad by any stretch, but he's not as good as the original Gronda who is fairly agile for such a big man. Shocker supposedly has a cocaine habit, he's also wrestling for CMLL now as a main event tecnico. Electro Shock should be a free agent, he's pretty much burned all his bridges with AAA & CMLL Add Ultraman Jr. - [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Ultraman_Jr[/url]. He's the legit son of the original Ultraman, as well Scorpio Jr. wrestles for AAA now. I think he's on CMLL's roster in the last update for '05, but I may be wrong Add El Gallego - [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=El_Gallego[/url] Add Ricky Banderas to AAA, he's an upper card rudo wrestling as Muerte Cibernetica. He's currently feuding with Cibernetico, who turned tecnico. La Secta Cibernetica (Muerte's stable) - [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=La_Secta[/url] Cibernetico, Chessman & Charly Manson are all tecnicos. They're "Los Hell Brothers" now. Speaking of Cibernetico, he's dating Estrellita outside of storylines Add Vipers Revolution/Revolucion - [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Vipers_Revolution[/url] I'm *assuming* Vipers Revolution are tecnicos, as Manson is both a part of Los Hell Brothers & Vipers Revolution and Manson is a tecnico now from what I gather. Add the Mexipowers - Juventud Guerrera, Joe Lider, Crazy Boy & Psicosis II. They're tecnicos. Extreme Tiger was trained by Rey Mysterio Sr., who.. doesn't appear to be in the game. He's still an active wrestler.[/QUOTE] Also for Mexico, "Mr. Mexico's" gimmick is that he is a bad wrestler. Yes. He in fact is, so his stats should reflect such, but maybe give him a bit higher charisma. Tomko and Mark Jindrak wrestle over there as well.

[CloudStrife888]

Yeah, Jindrak's playing an evil foreigner in CMLL as "Marcos Corleone", along with Johnny Stamboli & Kenzo Suzuki.

[American_Dream]

If you guys want, I would like to help do the title lineage. I already have some of the Cruiserweight finished.

[The Gaz]

Whats with all the negative rating on this topic? :confused:

[Sartagis]

If you still need someone to look over the Japanese side of the data I am willign to give it a go over, over the weekend. Though I can't help much with the indy feds [I]as[/I] much. If ya still need someone just let me know. Also if there's any specific type of errors you want a watch for.

[Genadi]

[QUOTE=Sartagis;169529]If you still need someone to look over the Japanese side of the data I am willign to give it a go over, over the weekend. Though I can't help much with the indy feds [I]as[/I] much. If ya still need someone just let me know. Also if there's any specific type of errors you want a watch for.[/QUOTE] Thanks Sartagis that would be awesome!

[American_Dream]

So, I take it you don't need help with the Title Lineage then?

[CloudStrife888]

First off I'm pretty sure I was wrong about Vipers Revolution, they're rudos and Charly Manson isn't affiliated with them anymore Add El Hijo Del Pierroth, he's a midcard rudo in CMLL and no relation to either Pierroth [url]http://luchawiki.com/index.php?title=El_Hijo_Del_Pierroth[/url] Add La Mascara, he's a solid high flying member of the Brazo family. Should be blood relative with all the Brazos - [url]http://luchawiki.com/index.php?title=La_M%C3%A1scara[/url] Add Alex Koslov, [url]http://luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Alex_Koslov[/url] he's a pretty solid all-arounder from all accounts and Sangre Azteca claims that Koslov is his brother. Don't know whether that's for storyline purposes or if they really are, though. Add Sarah Stock to the CMLL roster. I can't remember if she's in the last '05 update, but if not, she's a really solid technical wrestler. She wrestles as a rudo in CMLL as Dark Angel Latin Lover jumped to CMLL some time ago, he's a tecnico if memory serves Add Nitro, he is a really stunning high flyer who is a member of the Pandilla Guerrera stable. Regularly teams with Dr. X & Sangre Azteca. Hirooki Goto wrestles some dates with CMLL, maybe add him to their roster? Takemura also wrestles some dates with CMLL. That's all for CMLL also, I don't know if I said in my last post, but Alan Stone is a rudo. He's a member of Los Guapos VIP, a stable in AAA consisting of Scorpio Jr., Zumbido & Hator. Chris Stone also wrestles in AAA as a rudo Add this stable - [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Real_Fuerza_A%C3%A9rea_AAA[/url] From all accounts, they're quite a flashy stable but still green. Maybe give them high flashiness and aerial, but otherwise they range from weak to average. Pimpinela Escarlata is a tecnico, he's feuding with Cassandros and the other members of Los Exoticios Ishimori & Marafuji are working AAA as rudos, evil foreigners add [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=El_Hijo_del_Tirantes[/url] Tirante's son, he's a referee in AAA. Interestingly enough he also wrestles for them using the same identity. I'd say his priorities lie with refereeing though. Add the promotion IWRG - [url]http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=IWRG_Roster[/url] Question, why don't you guys add any of the minis? Most of them are pretty talented workers. All you'd have to do is set their size to "Very Small" to account for their small stature.

[Hurrikane]

With the release of the game you know someone was bound to ask, any timeline on when a release should be ready? I know you guys are working hard, but I was just curious.

[Troika]

Will HUSTLE be a part of this?.

[kevel33]

what about mma? shouldnt it at least be put in as an "other TV show" since it is such a huge viewer and buyer stealer from wrestling.

[Johnny Fenoli]

[QUOTE=kevel33;169892]what about mma? shouldnt it at least be put in as an "other TV show" since it is such a huge viewer and buyer stealer from wrestling.[/QUOTE] Very true... Maybe we can play around with it and have the cpu sim a decent mma... make it have 1 vs 1 all the time... pure, etc etc....

[D16NJD16]

[QUOTE=Johnny Fenoli;170104]Very true... Maybe we can play around with it and have the cpu sim a decent mma... make it have 1 vs 1 all the time... pure, etc etc....[/QUOTE] Absoulutely. If were trying to simulate the 2006 wrestling world, MMA should be a factor in this mod, one way or another.

[egomaniac1]

Props on all the great work you guys are doing!!! Fotorc is imo the best of the real data mods!! Its the most accurate in terms of wrestler statistics!! Its not over generous to some wrestlers like other mods can be. Whilst on the subject of MMA I just wanted to add that this is a sketchy area for alot of mods, because time and time again I find that alot of the mma fighters are given really high stats for submissions etc. when in reality not all mma fighters are well versed in submissions!! I think that care needs to be taken when doing the stats for mma fighters!!! But thats just my opinion!!! Neways keep up the good work!! I cant wait for the full mod to be completed!!! I kno its gna be awesome!!!!! :)

[Woodsmeister]

i second what egomaniac #1 said

[ROHCE]

Hey, when would you want the title linage done for the mod? Just wondering as I been a bit busy for the holidays.

[Vladamire Dracos]

You think perhaps NWA Pro and XCW could be added? They both have a weekly show on MavTV ([url]www.mavtv.com)[/url], a cable channel that's shown nationally (although the channel isn't shown in all locations). And yes, that promotions real name is "NWA Pro", they run shows in Cali and have connections to Inoki's Dojo, a number of lesser SoCal Indies, and Aussie promotion Explosive Pro Wrestling. Their show is called "NWA Pro Wrestling Showcase". It's really a throwback show that is influenced by early 80's era wrestling. You can catch both promotions on MavTV's website if you have a broadband connection. XCW's website is: [url]http://www.xcwonline.net/[/url] NWA Pro doesn't have a website, but it has a MySpace: [url]http://www.myspace.com/nwapro[/url] And you can find a listing of all 101 shows they ran/co-ran this year here: [url]http://www.nwawrestling.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1109[/url]

[The Shape]

The new grades system means that stats accross the board will need big changes. From my experience so far as WWE, a lot of their guys are rated too low, especially in overness.

[D16NJD16]

[QUOTE=The Shape;170936]The new grades system means that stats accross the board will need big changes. From my experience so far as WWE, a lot of their guys are rated too low, especially in overness.[/QUOTE] Listen to this man! ^

[ROHCE]

I decided since it looks like you guys will be another person's title linage, I will back away from that job. If anything else is needed besides the four things listed on the first page, I would be glad to help out with that.

[Adam Ryland]

[QUOTE=The Shape;170936]The new grades system means that stats accross the board will need big changes. From my experience so far as WWE, a lot of their guys are rated too low, especially in overness.[/QUOTE] While some stats may be too low, that doesn't have anything to do with the change in the grade system - that change was purely cosmetic, it's merely a mask for what the stat really is.

[TCP1]

[QUOTE=Adam Ryland;172110]While some stats may be too low, that doesn't have anything to do with the change in the grade system - that change was purely cosmetic, it's merely a mask for what the stat really is.[/QUOTE] Couldn't have said it better myself. How's the editing going Johnny?