Undertaker666 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Without changing the current card, what would you do? Two things i'd do: 1. Have Eugene turn heel because the guy can wrestle and he needs something to do. Instead of doing the Rock Bottom, Stone Cold Stunner and People's Elbow he could do heel finishers instead! 2. Have Undertaker win at 'Mania, turn heel and re-create The Ministry. The stable would consist of people from the three rosters to show it's dominance. To begin with i'd have these as members (don't laugh): Undertaker Kane (back as the masked Big Red Machine) The "Great" Khali (hate the guy but he's ideal as a big monster) Viscera (he's useless in the ring but he's a big dude to have around) Umaga Boogeyman (he's also useless in the ring but his gimmick would work well) Sabu Sandman Kevin Thorn & Ariel Eugene Victoria
panix04 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 not so sure that Sandman is a good fit. But the WWE would simply have to ring up Gangrel!
Undertaker666 Posted March 23, 2007 Author Posted March 23, 2007 Sandman was the unlikeliest fit of the group but I like him so i'd want to see WWE do something with him, anything! Gangrel? Hell no!!!
panix04 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 gangrel is a legend, im not gonna rehash the story for the trillionth time on here, but i have liked him ever since i saw him live at the princess theatre.
keefmoon Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 I think Nick Dinsmore is a must. To hell with this Eugeme thing, it got old in 2005. Dinsmore is a genuine talent and should be treated as such. I'd also push Burchill as a legitimate wrestler who is not a freaking pirate.
panix04 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 i loved the pirate thing, nothing says cool quite like being a pirate!
PeterHilton Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 [QUOTE=keefmoon;214394]I think Nick Dinsmore is a must. To hell with this Eugeme thing, it got old in 2005. Dinsmore is a genuine talent and should be treated as such. I'd also push Burchill as a legitimate wrestler who is not a freaking pirate.[/QUOTE] Awesome. The pirate thing is entertaining, but Burchill was never going to have a chance as anything more than comic relief with that gimmick. Heck, oif you stuck the two of them with a strong manager you'd have the makings of a legit bad-ass team.
keefmoon Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 [QUOTE=PeterHilton;214428]Awesome. The pirate thing is entertaining, but Burchill was never going to have a chance as anything more than comic relief with that gimmick. Heck, oif you stuck the two of them with a strong manager you'd have the makings of a legit bad-ass team.[/QUOTE] Hell yeah. I'd love to see that, as long as they both got significant pushes as singles stars at some point. Burchill is as close as we're gonna get to a British WWE Champion for a while, me thinks. Don't get me wrong, the pirate thing was quite fun/funny, but as Pete said he will be nothing more than comic relief if he sticks with that, and the guy deserves so much more.
Remianen Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 [QUOTE=Undertaker666;214377]1. Have Eugene turn heel because the guy can wrestle and he needs something to do. Instead of doing the Rock Bottom, Stone Cold Stunner and People's Elbow he could do heel finishers instead![/QUOTE] Yes! [QUOTE=Undertaker666;214377]2. Have Undertaker win at 'Mania, turn heel and re-create The Ministry. The stable would consist of people from the three rosters to show it's dominance. To begin with i'd have these as members (don't laugh): Undertaker Kane (back as the masked Big Red Machine) The "Great" Khali (hate the guy but he's ideal as a big monster) Viscera (he's useless in the ring but he's a big dude to have around) Umaga Boogeyman (he's also useless in the ring but his gimmick would work well) Sabu Sandman Kevin Thorn & Ariel Eugene Victoria[/QUOTE] NO! Hear me out though. While the idea itself definitely has merit and would even fit with the "old is new" theme the 'E seems to be infatuated with nowadays, it would actually be counterproductive on several levels. Think about it. With that stable, Taker would have to appear on all three TV shows. A star of his caliber (or 'calibre', for the UK folks :p) would draw a ton of attention and, whether they want him to or not, he'd definitely overshadow Cena and the rest of them. During the Ministry's first run, it was the central storyline of the entire promotion, especially after the "merger" with the Corporation. But you've got too many people in that stable who can't wrestle a lick and can't talk either. I bet Sci Fi would love it if Thorn & Ariel hooked up with 'Taker though (Taker would get people to actually watch the abomination called ECW on Sci Fi :p). What I'd do: 1) Run a storyline where Victoria takes the Women's title off Ashley then feuds with Mickie James with side matches with Candice Michelle (who is actually visibly improving) and move Jillian Hall off Smackdown and onto RAW and have her feud with Melina before eventually getting into it with Victoria and taking the title from her at Summerslam. Send Melina back to being a valet (where she belongs) and call up a couple of girls who can actually wrestle (ala Krissy Vaine, Shantelle Taylor, Nikita, Beth Phoenix). Hell, bring ODB up as Victoria's enforcer (she has the look for it). 2) Roll out a midcard title on ECW and have CM Punk go against Kevin Thorn and Elijah Burke to decide the first champ. Punk wins it when Burke & Thorn have a "miscommunication" involving Ariel. Gives Punk something to do since Vince is infatuated with Lashley so there's little chance of Punk getting the world title. OR, have Punk feud with the New Breed (groundwork is already laid) and eventually turn and join them and then feud with Lashley (since ECW is bereft of decent heels at the moment). 3) Put the tag titles on RAW into play. Call up Sosay to manage the World's Greatest Tag Team and put the titles on them, feuding them with the Highlanders, Cryme Tyme, Cade & Murdoch and.....Flair & Carlito. 4) Around Survivor Series time, call up the Harts (Harry, TJ Wilson, Nattie) and debut them on the undercard/pre-show. Have Viscera & Val job to them (not like they're not used to it heh). After that, feud them with Cade & Murdoch or Deuce & Domino (whichever show they wind up on), culminating in a tag team turmoil match including the tag champs (whoever they happen to be) at Mania next year. 5) Put the IC title back on Jeff Hardy and have him feud with the new heel Nick Dinsmore. Man, don't get me started heh.
keefmoon Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Actually, Remi reminded me. I would move Jillian Hall to Raw as a wrestler and go for the Womens title, as well as the other two things I said.
Undertaker666 Posted March 23, 2007 Author Posted March 23, 2007 [QUOTE=Remianen;214436]NO! Hear me out though. While the idea itself definitely has merit and would even fit with the "old is new" theme the 'E seems to be infatuated with nowadays, it would actually be counterproductive on several levels. Think about it. With that stable, Taker would have to appear on all three TV shows. [B]A star of his caliber (or 'calibre', for the UK folks :p) would draw a ton of attention and, whether they want him to or not, he'd definitely overshadow Cena and the rest of them.[/B] During the Ministry's first run, it was the central storyline of the entire promotion, especially after the "merger" with the Corporation. But you've got too many people in that stable who can't wrestle a lick and can't talk either. I bet Sci Fi would love it if Thorn & Ariel hooked up with 'Taker though (Taker would get people to actually watch the abomination called ECW on Sci Fi :p).[/quote] I want him to overshadow Cena and the rest of them, and not just because i'm a big 'Taker fan! I think this will be the last year that Undertaker will be a full-time (technically he's a part-timer I suppose) member of the roster. With that in mind i'd like him to be the dominant superstar that he's supposed to be, destroying all in his path. For him to have been in WWF/WWE for as long as he has and with the gimmick he's got, it's laughable the amount of times he's been champion. He deserves a long title run as a final farewell.
TCP1 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 [QUOTE=Undertaker666;214441]I want him to overshadow Cena and the rest of them, and not just because i'm a big 'Taker fan! I think this will be the last year that Undertaker will be a full-time (technically he's a part-timer I suppose) member of the roster. With that in mind i'd like him to be the dominant superstar that he's supposed to be, destroying all in his path. For him to have been in WWF/WWE for as long as he has and with the gimmick he's got, it's laughable the amount of times he's been champion. He deserves a long title run as a final farewell.[/QUOTE] Undertaker has held the title enough times. The problem with Taker is... He's not a very good wrestler and hasn't been for about 10 years now. Everytime he's in the main event for the title, he stinks the joint up. The only exceptions to this rule as far as I can remember are. [B]vs Angle [/B]at No Way Out 2006 (probably his best ever match, but clearly carried by Angle). [B]vs Orton[/B] at Wrestlemania (was good, but not great) [B]vs Austin [/B]at Summerslam 1998 [B]vs Vader[/B] at Canadian Stampede 1996 My Undertaker-bashing aside. I think that the company needs more stables. Actually, let me rephrase. WWE needs 1 Super heel stable made of the best heavyweight, IC and tag team performers on either of the big 2 brands. I was thinking: Edge Kenny Benjamin Haas or Kennedy Benoit London Kendrick Or even, cross-brand: Benoit, Finlay, Regal and Kennedy vs Edge, Orton, Kenny and Heel Eugene!
Undertaker666 Posted March 23, 2007 Author Posted March 23, 2007 [QUOTE=TCP1;214447]Undertaker has held the title enough times. The problem with Taker is... He's not a very good wrestler and hasn't been for about 10 years now. Everytime he's in the main event for the title, he stinks the joint up. [/QUOTE] Why I oughtta.... [I]*shakes fist*[/I]
Imarevenant Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 [QUOTE=Undertaker666;214459]Why I oughtta.... [I]*shakes fist*[/I][/QUOTE] You know, you don't get many Why I Oughtta's these days. Well played Taker :p
Clarity Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Upon reading the title, i thought the first thing i would do after 'Mania would be turning the TV off and going to bed
panix04 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 [QUOTE=Clarity;214470]Upon reading the title, i thought the first thing i would do after 'Mania would be turning the TV off and going to bed[/QUOTE] Seriosly Clarity, you are on fire today! :D
panix04 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 there was one other time you displayed similar form, but today is the 1st time in literally days that you have been this funny.
Clarity Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Im sorry.. I think i must have been slacking in the jokes department.. I blame comic relief.. That stuff is so unfunny that it drains the rest of us
panix04 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 [QUOTE=Clarity;214483]Im sorry.. I think i must have been slacking in the jokes department.. I blame comic relief.. That stuff is so unfunny that it drains the rest of us[/QUOTE] I am constantly amused by p*ss poor charity records and the fact that Peter Kay come's along and upstage's them all. Seriosly why don't they just get Peter Kay to do the official song, its getting embarrasing now! And that dire atempt at covering 'walk this way' made me want to kill Ashley Cole just so Cheryl Tweedy would understand the amount of distress music lovers are feeling after there latest abomination!
James Casey Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Amen to more emphasis on the tag divisions. Having a Four Horsemen-type stable back could be good, and Kennedy would be just the man to lead it. I'd also get rid of the stupid spinner belt (which no longer fits with Cena's gimmick) and get the old WWF Attitude belt out of retirement. I do love that belt... I'd also bring back the old (mid 80s-late 90s) IC belt. Cosmetic changes aside, heel Eugene has to happen at some point. Preferably without them wasting it like they did last time. The potential for him to snap and become some sick bad ass is there, or just send him away to OVW for a few months, get him a tan, short hair, no beard, bit less weight... Redebut him as Nick Dinsmore. It could work. Would the casual fan care? No. Would the smart fans care? A bit, but they've been asking for something similar since Eugene debuted anyway. Long runs for HBK and Taker as champs, of course. Taker is probably dropping the belt to Kennedy by the summer, but no reason he shouldn't work his *** off in the meantime. HBK can hold the belt until HHH returns, and in the meantime can work as many matches as Taker. Actually, having been reminded by the Rumble of how awesome those two are in the ring together, I'd mark hard for a SummerSlam match between the two of them. I have a feeling that CM Punk can't be turned heel - the fans love him too much. It's like keeping Kennedy as a heel - eventually you just have to accept that some people are going to be cheered.
panix04 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 i have to admit, i thought Eugene's gimmick was cute for about 2 or 3 weeks and then i just thought 'just let him wrestle!' I agree with a lot of your point's but i think you could be wrong about CM Punk, i think if anything a heel push could help revitilize ECW
James Casey Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Well, Punk can be turned heel - but only with radical alterations to his character. Punk as he stands is the smark wrestler of choice (Hey, I'm a big fan of his, so I'm not saying it like it's a bad thing) and that helps him get over to the casual fanbase as well. Add to that that a larger than normal %age of ECW fans are 'smart' fans and it's hard for Punk to be turned. The problem is, that he can't just come out one night and be a total **** to everyone - not without killing everything that makes him attractive to the fans. Let's not forget that hate is only the flipside of love, and equally as attractive. People heated the great heels like Ted DiBiase and Jake Roberts - but they loved seeing them fight. For Punk to turn the wrong way would kill off a lot of his appeal. He can't just go from cutting-edge face to traditional heel. There'd have to be a catalyst. Maybe he could just go tweener - sick of the New Breed and Originals fighting over him, he stands between the two, fighting anyone who tries to make him be something he's not - hey, what's more straight edge than being your own person? From there to full blown heel could be as simple as getting sick of being overlooked as title shots and main event opportunities go to people who've come down on one side of the line or the other. * One possibility that intrigues me would be to have the tag team titles unified - at least for a short time. After WM, the Cena/HBK feud continues with them forced into another tag title match on Raw, only this one ends with the belts changing hands (to Cade and Murdoch, or Cryme Time, or whoever - it doesn't matter). At Backlash, The two champion teams face off, with the winning team holding both titles, defending them separately and as a pair against both sides of the split (maybe Raw belts on Raw, SD on SD, both at PPVs). If this would involve logistical problems for the champs, well, they don't have to appear on every show. Another possibility could be for them to loan their services to just one brand between PPVs, with the highest bidder securing them solely for their show. This would add value to the tag titles, as the GMs fight it out to be the one with the belts on their show.
Sensai of Mattitude Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 - Not let me see The Great Khali on my television. At all. - Not give John Cena an Intercontinental Championship run to keep him on fire while Shawn Michaels has his last World title run. - 'Accidentally' forget to renew to contract for ECW on Sci-Fi. - Continue to build the company around newer talent with new ideas, rather than recreating the past at every opportunity. - Let Val Venis appear on Raw every once in a while. - Decide whether MNM are going to stay together or not and not change my mind every other week. - Kill that French girl's character off. Show a vignette with her drowning in her hot tub or something. - Organize some kind of behind-the-scenes plan that Bobby Lashley isn't aware of where I put him in the ring with Boogeyman and have him purposely dropped on his neck, causing him break his neck and the tools within your neck that allow you to talk. - Drop the brand split already. It's not as if it actually counts for anything these days, when we see a WrestleMania match between a Raw superstar and an ECW superstar hyped on SmackDown. - Release Shelton Benjamin so he can go to a fed where he doesn't need uber charisma to suceed.
TheEdgeOfReason Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 I would push Jeff Hardy to the ME:D and also would unify the world titles as they mean nothing as they are divided, I feel the tag titles need to be unified as well as there are not enough tag teams on any brand to have a fully functioning division
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