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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="machinesxe" data-cite="machinesxe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Arrows, you’re pretty on top of things. Do you know my role based on everything I’ve stated before?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have an idea, yes.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My role is useless if the mafia know what it is. My role is a twist on a vanilla role.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Gonna let them handle questioning you about your super awesome sorta vanilla role, you can't talk about or actively use to help us. I'll see if you can help some other way. Top three most suspicious, and why?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just how vanilla are we talking here?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Good one.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have said I have an ability. I don't want to make it clear as it makes me useless and puts me at harm for the night. It would make sense Astil found me at home since I don't go out at night.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Don't go out at night. Have an ability. Check. Revealing makes you a target</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I can say that based on what cappy did, I found it similar to my role and felt he was a PGO or bomb.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> PGO or Bomb is similar to your role. Neither makes you a target, at all.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If I reveal that, I won't make the next day phase if I am lynched or not.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Scared you're gonna die despite that.</p><p> </p><p> Look! CIRCLES! PRETTY CIRCLES!<img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was bussed. Simple.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He would've got a result for whoever you were swapped with, and believed that result was for you.</p><p> </p><p> Not not got a result at all.</p>
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Given town seems to have two or three roleblockers/watchers/trackers each? Minor sarcasm there but it does seem like there’s an awful lot of roles that can block or otherwise thwart people in this game. So I could see scum having power roles like that to start; they’d have to get lucky to be able to use them given all the pitfalls that seem to be out there.
As for Cappy...your reasoning makes sense but I think wothball of the pitfalls I mentioned above, getting frustrated at not actually being able to do anything may have done it. Fates know if I was on scum and it seemed like actions never happened I’d be pitching a fit myself.
Or, maybe we have so many roles BECAUSE the mafia is recruiting them and we need extras to make sure we still have some.
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That’s not how I saw it. Not sure I see Mafia recruiting (especially as they’ve lost four people since N2, you’d think they’d be recruiting earlier given that state of affairs). At this point given 26 players, I’d suspect only the Don is left. Since they traditionally have to kill every night I don’t see a chance for recruitment on the red side.
Just my two pence however.
You think they started with a cop and a bus driver?
Think about Cappy's meltdown. Getting recruited into a mafia that's in shambles could explain that whole thing.
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Gonna just toss this out there.
Seem like this mafia is recruiting to anyone else?
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's three of them down now. Great result, however even if he was town I would have had no regrets really based on his play. Without a bus driver about tonight should be a lot clearer now. Actually feel a bit sorry for the scum after that defense or lack thereof.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> When you go to bed tonight, think about just how much a scum bus driver can do. That may be the most powerful red role I've ever seen.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This. If nothing else comes out this phase then this is definitely the way to go. Arrows, it's not a blind Lynch because we've given him opportunity to respond and he has been unwilling.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I mean, it's something, I guess. It's very little. I do agree it's the way to go seeing as nothing else appears to be popping up, as unfortunate as that is.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Vote: Cappyboy</strong></p><p> </p><p> Happy?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaded" data-cite="Jaded" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This SCREAMS scum. If the best way to avoid being lynched is just to refuse to answer questions, town is screwed.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's an even day. I show scum, might as well act scum. Not sure how questioning if the town will pull the trigger on this lynch makes me scum though.</p>
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Man, Arrows that whole post is scummy.
To repaint the narrative from 'we asked Cappy for info for not voting scum and he posted a weird outburst and left without giving info' to 'any vote for Cappy is a vote to waste time' is a heck of a logical jump man.
If you have info that Cappy is clean let us know so we can move on. Don't act like a town fact finding push being stonewalled isn't beneficial.
I have no info. I just don't believe this is going to give us any information without us committing to this lynch. Are you really going to blind lynch him, or are you staring at your votes on him hoping miracles happen and he answers questions? If it's the former, I'll add my vote when I'm not on a tablet.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What makes you so sure that cappyboy is nothing other than a distraction though?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Cappy seem like the type to throw a tantrum as scum because things aren't going his way?</p><p> </p><p> He's made it clear he's not going to give us any information, and any vote put on him is either a vote towards wasting time, or a vote towards killing someone knowing nothing about them.</p><p> </p><p> We going to blind lynch him based off that post?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Eh I mean it could be <em>one</em> of your win conditions if the big objective is to just survive to the end. I’m still wary of the red result.<p> </p><p> You didn’t refute me earlier when I said you were likely self motivated, only assured me that a town win is a win for you. For all intents and purposes id treat and interact with you as town though.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll answer any questions people have, that I feel like answering, while we're waiting for people to check in and see what we want to do with this day other than be distracted by Cappy.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I’d trust arrows for now<p> </p><p> He seems like an individually aligned role, but with 2 scum down so far it seems like the best way for solo victory is to last to a town win and not the opposite.</p><p> </p><p> I also have a hard time believing there’s not an entirely different second group though</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm town. Same win condition and everything.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do you know based on comments or an ability?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I targeted someone else, who targeted someone I forgot was even in the game they've been so quiet.</p><p> </p><p> So I'm somewhere near the middle of the sandwich. The real meat. Woo!<img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Seriously? Did you track somebody who targeted you two nights in a row? What are the odds on that?<p> </p><p> Wait, does that make Mach the van driver? Because if it does, I think I want more of an explanation of what exactly he does and who he's been doing it to.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I didn't track Mach. I do know he targeted me. Honestly, he made that pretty obvious.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just finished reading the write up, so the man in black kidnapped someone? Does that mean the kidnapped won't be able to speak up?<p> </p><p> Cappy's actions are indeed suspicious, but why would he suddenly do this after disappearing the last day phase.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We would be told someone couldn't talk.</p><p> </p><p> I have my own thoughts on the man in black, but I'll wait and see what happens. Don't wanna give someone an out.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="machinesxe" data-cite="machinesxe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I want to know what Arrows did.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why? Want to know if I know you targeted me? I do, don't worry.<img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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Arrows what did you see last night?
Enough.
You know what? Fuhget that. I have a better idea for you.Come at me.
Everyone mark their ballots accordingly.
Bring your wood.
Bring your rope.
And come at me.
Interesting.
I think I've seen (and experienced) it both ways. If you have a mafia with a floating pool of abilities that the Don assigns to his crew each night, then you'll probably lose the kill that night because you've cut the head off the snake and nobody's in charge. Alternatively if each member of the scum team has a set job and function - and based off the two in the graveyard, that certainly seems to be the case here - then with the Hitman gone the team lose their kill that night while they restructure. It's an extra bonus for us for catching the killer.You obviously think you might have prevented a kill last night, but it doesn't sound that way in the write-up. Every other night you have intercepted people out on the street, in the middle of doing other things. This time you have to go to their house. It sounds like they weren't going to be doing anything at all had you not knocked on the door.
Looks right. If it was optional who did it, wouldnt have risked Anti.
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So, about this caravan. If Arrows is the "meat in the sandwich", then he - a tracker - is followed by two other trackers, one of whom is being protected. And then they cross paths with the van driver - do we assume that's Arrows' target? Or should we take from it that Arrows has been switched because he continues on, presumably to a different target?
I think it's fairly standard that the scum lose their kill for a night when the hitman goes down. There's nothing that sounds like a scum kill attempt.
Yeah, that's a weird one. I've got to figure it's the town vig involved, but I have no idea what happened to them.
Yeah, what on earth is a Copier? Is there anything on either previous night that we can tie to MLT?
Other things:
Our poison victim generally spends the night in the woods? Anybody recognise themselves there?
Also, what the hell is going on with the phoneline stuff? What is that? Are people passing messages?
Alright. On break. There is a lot going on in that write up, and I do agree Im somewhere in that conga line of people doing who knows what, presumably to me. Doesnt seem to have been any aggression towards me from what Im gathering. I could probably piece together a good bit of it, but Id like to wait and see what other people have to say today.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eayragt" data-cite="eayragt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The one thing against another scum group is the mention of THE Hitman, not A Hitman. <p> </p><p> Anyway, <strong>Emark, cappyboy</strong>, 2 players conspicuous by their vote on Derek but not on Antithesis (there's probably others, but phone makes it harder to check). I reckon it's time for you two to share. First person to respond gets to give us one tidbit of information about themselves, the second to respond gives us either two pieces, or one better piece of info? </p><p> </p><p> Sounds fair.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I second this.</p>
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Not as bad as expected. At work until 8 est, but will be checking in on the tablet when I can. Excuse any terrible typing.<img alt="
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Got a bad feeling about this night.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Crychon" data-cite="Crychon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Good work Arrows!<p> </p><p> Also, good luck town, keep that momentum going!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sorry it wasn't the poisoner.</p>
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