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If we're going with wishful thinking, then can't we all collectively hope for Samoa Joe to come back and win the strap tonight?
A fella can dream, can't he?
And yeah, Roderick and Tyler are both cases where they can do all the moves and they are tremendous athletes, but neither can talk worth ****, and even in a company where the emphasis is on the action, the top guys simply have to be able to deliver believable promos.
Like, the Briscoes aren't good talkers, but they're believable. When Roddy gets mad, he doesn't sound like he's mad, or like he's gonna whup some ass. He sounds whiny, and wimpy, and his facial expressions are comical rather than menacing.
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Not a Roddy Strong fan, either...but I'm not sure who else they could go with. I'd love Davey with the belt, but he's done with wrestling soon, isn't he?
Just give it to Prince Nana...too awesome for words.
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I wanted Chael to win, but I knew that Anderson Silva would dominate him. I couldn't have predicted that Silva would need a fortuitous fifth round submission to steal a victory and keep his win streak intact...it seemed so unlikely. If anyone can ever feel victorious despite a defeat, its Chael Sonnen.
And yeah, the last two PPVs have really raised the bar as far as excitement goes. Even my fiancee, who doesn't care for much in the way of sports, is a UFC fan now. She eagerly asked me when the next "big fight" will be.
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Their inability to do a decent promo, they sound like angry gibberish most of the time.
I get what you're saying, but to me they are one of the best interviews in wrestling because, according to most, they REALLY do talk like that. So they sound legit. Idiots, but legit.
To each their own, right?
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I seriously love the KoW. Probably my favorite act so far this year in any promotion, and they generally churn out very good matches. Their match against the WGTT is going to be ****-hot.
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I do too because it's hilarious. M-1 events always have at least one fight where a guy gets his back taken because he turns around to escape the guard or something.
It's those damn amateur wrestling instincts. All my life I was taught three things when it came to wrestling.
1. Wrist Control
2. Never reach back (because of the half nelson or the wing)
3. Stay off your back
So, when I nervously made a few attempts at MMA in a gym setting, as soon as my back hit the mat I popped my hips and rolled over. And then came the choke. Luckily this was just sparring, so I didn't end up with a bruised windpipe.
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Yeah, you're right. Not sure how I could confuse two and three.... probably because when I went back on history of my childhood I realized how terribly bad some of that stuff was. Good catch though.
Yeah, my knowledge of terrible wrestling cards from years past has set me up for a high-paying career in a Fortune 500 company.
Back on topic, I feel that the UFC is already the International brand for MMA. I don't know how many times people have said that they "love UFC" instead of saying they "love MMA" because Dana and Co. have done such a great job building their brand over the last decade. It seems like MMA is a term known more to old school fans of the sport, or people who follow sports more closely than other people, but for the casual fan UFC is the only name that matters.
My knowledge of Japan is limited pretty much to importing videogames and watching wrestling, so I'm by no means an expert. But I have to think that if there's money to be made, that the organized crime elements would at least entertain the idea of dealing with Zuffa. Their ultimate goal can't be that different from organized crime in America, can it? Namely, making huge piles of green cash money.
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Maybe they're referring to something similar to what WWF did with Wrestlemania 3. They had multiple shows going on around the United States that were under the same banner. Think of it like that.
That was WrestleMania 2, wasn't it? 3 was the Pontiac Silver Dome, Hogan vs. Andre.
2 was almost utter, utter ****. The goofy "3 Venues, 1 Show" deal didn't hide the fact that there was an Uncle Elmer match on the card.
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http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/mmaufcnews/article10012795.shtml
I figured this video of JR, Steve Austin, Paul Heyman, and Bill Goldberg being interviewed after last night's event was appropriate for this forum, ya know?
Also, I want to point out that I think last night was a great card for people new to MMA. I imagine that at house parties and bars, a lot of new fans were introduced to the sport, and with a card that featured decisive finishes, exciting fights, and intriguing storylines and characters, 116 was very good for the UFC.
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I love Brock because:
A. I was a successful amateur wrestler (at the lowest possible level), and when he was at his peak in college, everyone on my team thought he was awesome and couldn't believe that a guy who looked the way he did could do the things he does.
B. I was a huge mark for him in the WWE.
C. I love to see the disappointment on people's faces when he beats whoever they're pulling for. Brock was more mature and humble in his victory speech, which is great. But I sort of hoped that he would stick it right up everyone's ass again.
Last night, my heart caught in my throat when Carwin was firing off his bombs. I was positive that it was going to be stopped, even though Brock was defending himself well. And when he got the takedown in Round 2, I breathed easy knowing that once he gets the top, he's almost impossible to stop. It was a great effort by Carwin to do what he does best, and it showed the poise of Lesnar that he didn't allow himself to be put away.
I was elated, but the road only becomes more difficult, because Cain Velasquez is, to my mind, a better MMA fighter than Carwin. Brock of course will gameplan and train and he'll be prepared for him, but Velasquez is serious business. I can't wait for them to showdown, because while I don't think he's better than everyone else, I know that Brock can beat Velasquez. But will he? That's a question that has me very excited.
On another note...I think Leben may have just made himself a superstar. You wrestling guys know the moments that take a guy and "make" him, right? Last night's choke submission at the tail end of a very hard fought battle was one of those moments. I loved last night's whole show, I was very entertained, and I couldn't be happier that Brock won.
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There's lots of things speaking for Lesnar. The speed difference is going to be ridiculous, probably more than it was in Evans - Rampage. Brock is a better technical striker (in the sense that he usually keeps his hands up and his chin tucked.) He is credentially a better wrestler. He's going to have, what, like six months training with an excellent camp coming into the fight and he's clearly got an aptitude for the game.
But I think people are overestimating Brock's wrestling ability since both Herring and Couture stuffed his shot and I wouldn't be surprised if Carwin could either sprawl effectively or use the cage the way he did in the Gonzaga fight to repeatedly get back to his feet. There's also the possibility that he'll be successful in pushing Lesnar against the cage and, while not doing what he did to Mir (who looked absolutely lost in there) he might get some knees in on Lesnar's power leg or maybe score with some small punches.
On the other hand this is a guy who was outstruck by Neil Wain, fights with his front leg so ridiculously exposed it'll take three leg kicks to chop it down, has an unknown gas tank, ate three counter shots from Gonzaga and only throws 1-2s.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that I have no idea who will win. I'm still favoring Lesnar but I wouldn't be surprised to Carwin get the nod. I suspect we'll know within two minutes who has the wrestling advantage and that's going to dictate the rest of the fight.
That's a good point about Carwin's stance, if you remember back to Lesnar's victory over Mir, one good leg kick from Brock left a red welt on Mir's inner thigh. Maybe we'll see some leg kicks from Brock tonight?
I still like Brock via ground and pound, but I don't think it's a given. So much could happen, that's why MMA is so great.
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I was firmly in the 360 camp, despite the fact that I'd gotten two red rings and an E71 failure.
Then I actually bought a PS3, and my 360 is collecting dust. I have a good library for it, and there are forthcoming games that I'll certainly play on the 360, but given the choice, I'd say the PS3 is my favorite. The software library has caught up to the capabilities of the hardware, finally.
But I'm no fanboy...my motto is, and always has been "Good games is good games." I want to play what's good, what's new, and what's interesting, be it the cornucopia of indie games available on my PC, or the latest big-budget blockbuster for the PS3. If there's fun and intrigue to be had, I'm there.
Which is why, much like Remi, I have owned more or less every single console (didn't have a CD-i, 3DO, or a Virtual Boy) and maintained a gaming-quality PC. I have a compulsion to try damn near everything.
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Ahhh, but you can still have that ol' skool flavor up in the crib. Look here. I got up on them watching Garage Mahal (Goldberg's show) and it pissed me off. I used to troll the bankruptcy sales in the area back when arcades were going under regularly (late 90s) and at one time had five full sized games in the basement (sit down versions of Spy Hunter and OutRun, tabletop/****tail version of Ms Pac-Man, Street Fighter 2, and X-Men: Children of the Atom) and I paid a lot more than that for them. Now I'm scheming on a way to get one of these. Friend of mine bought one with his income tax refund and he has to play it after midnight because his kids monopolize the damn thing.
We have some awesome games today but it's not the same. As you mentioned, it's not the same experience. Plus, back in the day, developers could specify hardware in those big cabinet models so many games we played in arcades were customized for that particular game. They moved away from that (going with the more standard system that used DVDs or cartridges or something with only the panels on the cabinet being swapped out) but that was when they started to suck. Oh, that and some games going up to a freakin' DOLLAR for one play!
Yeah, a lot of the cabs they have in some of the remaining arcades are very cookie-cutter for the reasons you mentioned. It's more cost effective to swap out a board or a disc than to buy a new cabinet for every game.
That set-up you linked to is pretty damn nice. I've been in some beautiful home arcades over the years, but as you mentioned, they can get quite expensive. One of my favorite 2D fighter tournies took place in the basement of this guy's house in Maryland. He had a nice place, and his basement was finished and all of that, so it was a pretty cozy set up with sit-down arcade cabinets. I casually asked him how much he'd shelled out over the years to get it to that point.
He just smiled and shook his head. "A lot," he replied.
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Never had a decent arcade near me growing up, so I had to rely on my SNES. I liked SF2, had all the versions (DeeJay was inexplicably my favourite character) but I was always more of a Mortal Kombat fan. It was faster. Street Fighter felt like I was fighting in pudding.
First time I ever really spent in an arcade were while on vacation in... some Spanish place... possibly Spain. There was an arcade near the hotel that had some okay stuff, and was not quite so run down as to be depressing. I spent pretty much every day in that thing, whomping locals at Tekken Tag Tournament. Hwoarang & King yo!
Oddly, I find fighting games rather pointless now. I need more variety than a series of one-on-one fights. I've got more disposable income than I know what to do with, but I can't justify £30 on Tekken 6 or the new Street Fighter or the new UFC.
My friends and I still get together and play Street Fighter (well, it's Super Street Fighter II Turbo) or the occasional bout of SSFIV. But then, there was a time when we took those games serious, analyzing frame data and learning move priority and practicing until we were awesome. You know the guy who you played in the arcade who mauled you without letting you get a punch or a fireball in? We were those guys. And as stupid as it sounds, on more than one occasion we traveled great distances (hundreds of miles, maybe even thousands of miles if were flying) to compete in fighting game tournaments for cash prizes.
Yes, we were gigantic dorks.
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Same I can still remember going down to the local mall here on a Wednesday night and paying $10 (probably around 20 nowadays, man am I getting old???) to play for 3 hours free on all games. Street Fighter 2 even though I had it at home on the snes always saw the most gameplay. There was something magical about arcades as a kid I swear
We do but I still don't know if it's because I was a kid that I was able to immerse myself into a 32 bit 2d game like Zelda more then I can a game like Dragon Age which has all the bells and whistles. Then again Zelda was a legendary game, probably not a fair comparison.
Well, I know as a kid the games that I played were limited to what my father bought for us, as opposed to now when I pretty much have the disposable income to get the games I want, when I want. So back then, I had to strip every possible game down to the bone so that I could get the maximum enjoyment from it.
The original "Gold Cartridge" Zelda...yeah I played that one to death. Still to this day it's the only Legend of Zelda game I've ever beaten...and I've owned all of the other ones at one point or another. The first still has a special place in my heart.
And yes, I too played the balls off of Street Fighter II: The World Warriors. And all the subsequent revisions. I also loved the big six player X-Men cabinet, getting a group together and mashing our way through that was always fun.
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All games, or just games for those of us who like to "kick it old school?"
I'm always saddened when I walk by the places where arcades once stood. There was a sweet arcade in the mall near where I grew up...now I think it's a grocery store.
Despite the fact that we didn't have any PSN or Xbox Live, and that the PC was mostly made of MUDD back then, we gamers had a nice little community going in those arcades. When I think of the hours I spent shoulder to shoulder with other kids, pumping quarters in to the game du jour, I get a little misty-eyed for the days gone by.
But then, we have some pretty awesome games today, don't we?
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#1 Lesnar
#2 Velasquez
#3 dos Santos
#4 Werdum
#5 Carwin
#6 Fedor
#7 Mir
#8 Overeem
#9 Nogueira
#10 Uhh.... Antonio Silva I guess?
I feel pretty confident about the top 4 but the rest are a jumble.
These periods where a division is sorting itself out really are the most exciting, aren't they?
e: I'm mostly basing this off that I think rankings by and large should reflect the recent history in the division. If someone beats someone else he gets his spot.
Assuming a Lesnar victory, I would put Fedor at 5 and Carwin at 6.
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It's a huge fight, especially following Fedor's loss. It'll be the first time in a long time that we can say "This guy is the current best HW in the world, fact".
For me this fight is all about answering questions, because there are a lot of questionmarks surrounding both guys.
- Can Brock take a punch? Conventional wisdom says yes purely based on his physical make-up, but he's never been hit so we don't know.
- Can Brock operate off his back? Again, you'd think so given his credentials, but until we see someone put him there and keep him there, who knows? Is Carwin the man to do it? I guess we'll find out. One other thing to note on credentials; it's been a loooong time since Brock wrestled...it's not like he's Ben Askren. Does that matter? Again, we'll see...
- Can Carwin last more than five minutes? He says 25 is no problem, but then he would. Until we see it in practise, we can only speculate.
- Can Carwin deal with Brock's wrestling? I don't know much about the tallent gap between D1 and D2 wrestlers, but I'm told it's pretty sizable. Carwin is going to have to take the innitiative against Brock, and that will leave him open for the shot...can he deal with it, or will he end up on his back getting hammered into oblivion?
- Is Brock healthy? I never back a guy coming of a year-plus layoff if they're in an even remotely even fight. That said, Carwin hasn't exactly been busy, and Brock's 'rookie' status means more time to train could actually benefit him. He's been training full time since Jan, FYI.
Here's the interesting part though...last week someone on the UG posted something about Lesnar getting hurt in training and potentially pulling out of the fight. Typical troll stuff, but apparently this guy had been on the money a couple of times before, so my boss checked it out. He put a call in to somone in Brock's camp - a sparring partner - to see if there was any truth to it.
Now, for full disclosure, this guy is a sparring partner, not a full time training partner, so he's not there all the time (or even most of the time) and is likely not privvy to all the inner-wrokings of the camp. It could be that he is literally brought in for two days at a time to spar, then leaves for a week etc.
This guy said that Brock had picked up a knock, and there was talk of pulling him out from his trainers/coaches. We also contacted Brock's manager, but the official word there was that Brock would be 100% come fight time, which isn't really a confirmation or denial. When my boss contacted the source again (the next day, I believe) he said that there was a knock, but it was "Getting better by the hour". Take that for what it's worth...
The gap between D1 and D2 wrestling is, I feel, enormous. Okay, I wrestled at the JuCo level, which is miles away from the level that Brock competed at. I wrestled as a heavyweight, but I was around 215 or so, which meant I was frequently up against much bigger opponents, but speed was my advantage. Well, every so often, these big guys, monsters some of them, were so unbelievably fast that my speed advantage was utterly negated. I honestly couldn't believe how someone so big could be so fast. Literally "blink and you're dead" fast. Brock is like ten times faster than that.
Those guys I wrestled? I've seen them be devoured by good D2 wrestlers. And those good D2 wrestlers? They would in turn be destroyed by good D1 wrestlers. Brock was the biggest and best D1 wrestler in the country, winner of the Dan Hodge award (equivalent of the Heisman for wrestlers). So, though he hasn't competed as a pure wrestler in about a decade, his level of ability was so high that I don't think those skills have faded, or at least haven't faded enough to give Carwin much of a chance in the wrestling department. Especially if Brock can get wrist control, Carwin could be in trouble.
But the questions about Brock's chin are legit. He did take a pretty stiff knee from Mir in their 2nd fight, but he was able to get on top and rest immediately after that, so that's not a great example of how he can handle punishment. Everyone knows that Carwin is a wrecking machine, so even someone with a granite chin would want to stay away from his hands, and he's not a terrible wrestler by any means, so a takedown isn't a foregone conclusion or anything.
I'm a fan of MMA first and of Brock second, so I just want to see a good fight. I hope that Brock wins, and I think that he can, but I definitely wouldn't say that he will.
I certainly hope that Brock isn't hurt, I planned a whole party around this freakin' PPV! So many variables...the wait is almost too much!
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I'll cast my vote for Lesnar as well.
I don't know that Carwin is as poor a wrestler as people have said, but I do know that Brock's takedowns are tough for really good wrestlers to stop. He was one of the premier heavyweight wrestlers in the world during his senior year of college. and he's still a beast on the ground. So, despite his hiatus from the octagon, I predict a round one ground and pound stoppage for Brock.
But if Carwin can get a good punch on Brock when he's moving in for a takedown...I'm excited to see what happens.
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I always thought Fabricio was a solid, solid fighter, whose BJJ was on par with damn near anyone's in the HW division. I'm certainly not shocked that he got such a pretty sub on Fedor.
I certainly think that Fedor is very near the top of the division, but I can't help but wonder if this may be the catalyst that starts his fall from grace. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised to see him continue in much the same fashion that he has for most of his career.
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I watched "The Big Bang" after it aired. I think if you wait a few days, you can buy the event and watch it at your convenience. I watched it, then days later I re-watched the tag title match with a friend.
So, don't despair. You'll get your chance to see it.
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Regarding DBD...what a show. Awesome.
And Davey Richards vs. Tyler Black? The crowd wasn't exaggerating..."Five Star Match." Those two damn near killed themselves, and each other, putting on a fantastic match.
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Why does he need the belt if he's way over anyway? If he's going to retire at the end of the year why not spend that year with him putting over (not losing but having good matches) with guys that they want to push in the upcoming year. If Davey is as good as people say and he's leaving in five months I think its silly to put a championship on a guy thats leaving unless there is a business reason for it and at this point I doubt they would do more business if he had the championship than if he was just co main eventing or chasing the championship.
All very good points. But I would think that a Davey Richards vs. Christopher Daniels program with both the ROH Title and the title of Best in the World on the line would help elevate ROH just a little bit more.
But you're right, he doesn't really need the belt. Call it the mark in me just hoping to see it happen this Saturday.
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Yeah you've totally gotta give Mike Briscoe maximum props on that slap...he reached all the way back to China before sending that palm into his face. The sound of it echo'd all around the arena.
I'm sure his boys told him to "lay it in, pa! you gotta man up."
And re: Tyler Black...I don't know if he's "the man," but I'm a fan of his work and I think that with time he could develop an entertaining persona. But the time is right to give Davey the belt, he's waaaay over. And if he's gonna hang it up at the end of 2010, ROH oughtta strike while the iron is hot.
I can still remember going down to the local mall here on a Wednesday night and paying $10 (probably around 20 nowadays, man am I getting old???) to play for 3 hours free on all games. Street Fighter 2 even though I had it at home on the snes always saw the most gameplay. There was something magical about arcades as a kid I swear
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I love the fighting spirit of Akiyama, but he should veer away from the "Mr. Dumpling" defensive strategy. And anyone who knows what crappy mid-90s Jonathan Brandis movie I'm referencing is automatically my new best friend.
Not being British, I rather enjoyed the Condit KO. For a free card, I felt the show was solid. Any time I get my fiancee to watch with me, that's a decent indicator that there's enough action on the show.