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I tend to agree with chris that Rocky's response came off a little flat because it was taped...but logically it made plenty of sense: kind of hard for Cena to say that The Rock isn't "committed" or "invested" to the business when his entire frickin' family is in wrestling.
Father..grandfather....any number of uncles, cousins, etc
If this somehow leads to a Cena/Rikishi showdown I'd be pretty
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TMZ is reporting Chris Jericho will be on Dancing with the Stars.
Will that huge and supportive fans of wrestling audience push him to the top?????
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Jericho spoke about seeing the TNA video (I'm sure it around most news site)
On TNA's 3-3-11 video from 'Impact': 'It drives me nuts and I'll tell you the reason why. I am the biggest fan of TNA as a concept. I want them to be huge, Vince wants them to be huge because the more competition there is, it's better for the business, it's better for the boys, it's better is for the fans. I don't understand their obsession with copying the WWE I think it's lame, I think its bush league and I don't get it, they have some of the best talent, some great idea men. Why do they do this? Why do their guys go out there and say 'When I was in the WWE I was left behind and I was held back'. If I was working for TNA I would project that it's the greatest wrestling company in the world because if you're not projecting it, why is anyone going to believe it? When we were in ECW it was small, I never made more than $250 a show but you would die for that company and when you came across that way, the fans came across that way and suddenly you have this underground revolution going on and it was real, it was a revolution, people believed it was the best. No one in TNA believes they are in the best company and if they don't believe it then why am I going to believe it as a fan? Why am I going to buy their product? It's just so bush league, they can do better than that and the guys on top there should know better and it really makes me mad because they're wasting money and they don't have to be wasting money but I'm not burying TNA I'm saying you should be ashamed of yourself because you can do better.' -
These are her own Twitter fans..
Dixie Carter Gets Blasted By Pissed Off Fansby TNAWrestlingNews.com Staff on 02/25/2011 - 05:54 PM
Dixie Carter took a lot of heat via her Twitter account last night for the 3-3-11 video.
cherberrie: @tnadixie I caught the last five minute of your programming and it blows.. It is terrible... You will never be WWE. stop trying to be!
canadianbulldog: Dear @TNADixie - Nice "Surprise". Maybe next time you can surprise us with a wrestling promotion that doesn't absolutely f***ing suck.
JAVincen: @TNAwrestling @TNADixie Wow...The big surprise ending is a rip off of WWE's Undertaker promo for Sting.... Disappointing......
trtx84: Oh lord. Really @TNADixie? We're just gonna straight up copy WWE wholesale now? Embarrassing... #3311
TweepzMostLuvd: @TNADixie anything to keep them away from #1 huh? That's why this cpmpany will go down. What a let down.
jakeblckmn: @TNADixie could you please be more original, 3-3-11 really? and you wonder why your company sucks and is in the gutter, get new writers
WrestleWrestle: Y'know @TNADixie , if you're that driven to flush money down the toilet, you could just send it to me and save everyone a lot of pain.
MrGamer2558 : @TNADixie a mock video of WWE's 2-21-11 for Sting is your big surprise? you're kidding? this is a f***ing joke right?
thedylan2296: @tnadixie tna is officially dead... dixie... why? at victory have someone squash sting very quick... i wont care as long as sting looses
PocketVolcano: @TNADixie Seriously, just close up the company. Your talent is severely underpaid (esp the women) and you keep rehashing WCW stuff. Stop.
AreYouHie: @TNADixie when can i take over creative control of TNA? im pretty sure i'd bring in more viewers with much better "surprises"
bookerg: Only 1/2 an hour to go till @TNAwrestling & @tnadixie disappoint me with another overhyped "shocking surprise"! Who-hoo!
Lamou420: @TNADixie enough with the surprises already. We all know you can't deliver. Every time #tna announce a "big surprise" it's a let down.
Morris272: Sting in WWE would of been great in TNA its boring and predictable.
CdnOtakuGamer: Actually, the big surprise is that @TNADixie brought a big cake for everyone... But Matt Hardy ate it all backstage.
GrappleKingdom: Dear @TNADixie and @TNAwrestling - see how @WWE announced Sin Cara? THAT is how you make an impact in the wrestling world.
xthegunshow: @TNADixie Oh wow Sting vs Jeff Hardy...you really know how to keep those viewing figures down.
EmJayEch: The WWE is horrible & they lost me as a fan years ago, TNA is my CHOICE but TNA has opportunity and they BLOW IT BIG TIME. F-THIS @tnadixie
NotTripleH: Are we sure that TNA has the real Sting backstage, or the NWO Sting? Because I doubt @TNADixie knows the difference. #VintageDixie.
xthegunshow: @TNADixie No one gives a f*** that Sting is at tonights Impact Taping, people want him in WWE. You use him horribly.
XDustinEFLX: @TNADixie: Instead of paying your wrestlers more,you're wasting more money on a second Jersey Shore 'star'? Are you stupid?
gersfan22331: @TNADixie wow dixie the big suprise was sting wow the old man chose to stay with the 5TH rate trash that is tna
awesome_since88: @TNADixie OMG I wonder who 3-3-11 is??? This is going to change pro wrestling forever!! If I can only control myself for a whole week #TNA
EdgeUniversity: @TNADIxie so...your huge surprise for Impact was that you can copy a promo video that @WWE has been doing for the past month? GREAT JOB!
james_donald: YAY FOR COPYING WWE!!!! f*** you you dumbass bitch @TNADixie.
bookerg: I'M OFFICIALLY DONE WITH TNA. Don't say "SHOCKING SURPRISE" and not deliver. @TNAwrestling and @tnadixie. You just lost a viewer. FU.
Joerrd: @TNADixie LOL. That little 3-3-11 promo? That's the reason nobody takes your bingo hall company seriously.
The_Kliq_Army: @TNADixie so #TNA just basically stole the #WWE #Taker22111 promo lame
divalover159: @TNADixie learn to be original and never EVER copycat. if you want to be taken very seriously and not as a joke that you just made yourselfs tonight. learn to be original or your nothing more but a joke. just saying.
wmkrow: wow, @tnadixie, good job ripping off WWE and their 2-21-11 bit. Same font and everything.
Relentless_J: Lmfaoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! TNA really copied WWE by making a 3-3-11 video??? @TNADixie can't use ORIGINALITY!?!?!?
JeebusOMalley: @TNADixie Seriously? Not even gonna pretend to have an original thought huh? Unbelievable. Impact is garbage.
PhantomLordNYC: @TNADixie Jesus Christ can't you people come up with anything original at all???
DarkMatchRaslin: @TNADixie we liked the Sting promo the first time we saw it...when it was for Undertaker in WWE a month ago...seriously, even the numbers?
J712v2: A mock 2/21/11 video? Really TNA? Really? Dear Spike: Take TNA off TV, and put ROH on instead!
1ISchmo: Wow. Creative means being creative, not copying something from another show. The s***s beyond. @TNADixie, enjoy the final year.
Credit: Mike Shalik/Sescoops
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I'm pretty sure it was making fun of wwe who wanted sting anbd them saying hahaha we got him you cant have him
Well....
Let's be real: the idea that Sting was the one in those videos was entirely started by and kept alive by net fans.
The WWE obviusly planned it to be Undertaker all along.
Sting had made no move to sign with the WWE.
Maybe it made fun of the idea that the WWE could get so much hype and excitement generated among fans for the "return" of a guy who is on the roster and takes a long break every year and returns before a big PPV, every year (just like Sting does)
But here's my issue:
TNA is AGAIN creating the comparison to the WWE, and they don't really look good in doing it. Not bad. But not good. And - after reading the spoilers - they are relying on the hype for a video that they didn't create to push a character who - the last time he was on TNA TV - was being booked to look like crap.
Soooo..you are hyping the return of a guy that's been around forever, that was turned heel then face then super secret face because of storylines, and who *probably* is no longer that big a deal in your company.
And you promoted it as 'the biggest thing in the history of the industry'...which pretty much set yorself up to mocked by the haters and to get a bunch of heat from your actual fans
It's not that the video is bad per se, so much as I don't see the benefit. At all.
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They both have a crapload of awesome talent, so a merger would be cool to see for the matches alone.
Im not sure I think AAA has any 'awesome talent' but they do have guys that are fun to watch
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From the F4W/Observer front page, because it's relevant in the wake of the Sin Caras/Rey discussion. Neither company appears to be in a position, and nor have they been for some time, to pay a high six-figure salary to anyone.
Fair enough.
And it's an interesting bit of new because Mexico really has operated in a bizarre manner for years.
For one...it's kind of a task even watching the shows because their TV time slot changes so frequently. And - especially here in the states - the shows are shown out of sequence pretty often
A merger would make sense.
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I guess Im not sure how big or profitable companies are in Mexico but I could see it. I could see a bigger Mexican company being able to pay what TNA does for Main Event talent. 600k+
That's what I tend to think.
Supposedly a lot of the "American" talent like Konnan and Waltman that went down to Mexico to work for AAA did so because the pay dys were as much or more than TNA (of course, the cynic would also point out that a lot of those guys also burned all their bridges in the US so there you go)
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Supposedly profits are up actually. From what people have said here due to their involvement in films and such.
No one has said that recently. Profits aren't up. They're leveling off or dropping. They are profitable, but the recent quarters have been not so hot and specifically PPV numbers are way down.
jbergey is right that paying guys in the millions wouldn't make sense right now
Like Peter said I thought you meant 5 million which is what I was doubting Cena made.Using inflation and Reys bump up the card I could see him around 600-700k now but I think anything over 1 million is a stretch. It would be hard for the WWE as a corporation to get approval on huge salary spikes as profits are trending downward.
I don't want to get into an argument of specifics.
My over-all point which started the "what is rey getting paid" line of discussion was that Ray could work in Mexico as more of an attraction and still make roughly what he makes for the WWE.
I still think that.
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Almost five years old, and those figures were not entirely accurate. Also, tell me more of this notion that WWE's biggest draw, main eventing almost all of their PPV's and undoubtedly their biggest merchandise seller, might not be clearing $1.5M per year.
Meh. All the reports at the time were that The Rock and SCSA cleared around 2 million a year and that was at the absolute peak of the industry's popularity.
The numbers that came out after WCW closed were that it's headline core averaged around that.
I certainly believe that Cena clears $1.5 million. But you said you thought Rey Misterio ( who is definitely NOT the most popular or the biggest merch seller) cleared "mid seven figures."
That's $5 million.
I sincerely doubt that. And i would believe it's A LOT closer to that wiki figure of 400 K than it is to "mid seven figures."
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Uh, his ring work HAS suffered... but, hey, that shouldn't shocked anyone. After doing all those high risk moves, I'm surprised he can still WALK, let jump off a turnbuckle and do a cross body. If you think he's fast and athletic now, he was a phantom and aerial artist in his heyday.I would disagree so strongly it may involve violence I don't think I have seen anyone's ringwork suffer MORE than Rey's.
Let me clarify..I stated that very poorly: his ringwork hasn't suffered "recently"
Meaning, his ringwork now isn't any worse than it was in 2009 or so. Comparing him to his prime in WCW or even his early WWE days is totally laughable. You guys are right on that.
But if you were to see what passes for 'ringwork' in AAA, you'd know that him and his 'three moves of doom' would fit right in. Plus..it would be like when someone like Kenta worked ROH dates..the match didn't have to be **** for people to get excited.
He'd be an event.
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Eric Bischoff was actually the first to have the trench coated dark figure in the rain promos!
C'mon...I know you don't like fan negativity...but seriously????
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I'm fully aware of how big a draw Rey would be in Mexico.
Rey is earning probably in the mid seven-figure range right now, maybe a little higher if you include merchandise. For him to make that much money in Mexico would require, if he were to work four nights a week, which he rarely does now, Rey to be paid a little over $7,000 per shot. Rey might get that much for a dozen or so big matches over the course of a year in Mexico, maybe even a little more. But he isn't getting that much money for four nights a week for a year, and even if he wanted that kind of schedule, he'd just stay with WWE.
Mid 7 figures??? really???
I would think less than that. I guess that's where our POV differs because I think he's high six figures which would make Mexico a viable option
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Rey's knees are in terrible shape, although they've been bad for years. Part of the reason he has 'heat' is because he doesn't want to work a full schedule partly because he wants to wind down and partly because he knows he can't last as long on a full schedule with his body the way it is. And for Rey to earn big money in Mexico, on the scale they pay, he would have to work, at least, the equivalent of a full-time WWE schedule, and probably more than that. Not to mention the toll Mexican rings would take on his already shot knees; they don't have the give US rings do, and are rock hard, so he'd be hurting himself even more for almost as much money as if he were to simply stay in WWE.
I think you're understimating how much of a draw Rey would be in Mexico at this point in his career.He could probably get real decent pay out just working limited dates and the odd TV taping for AAA...it might be a wash but I don't think his going to Mexico would be as 'lose-lose' a scenario as you're describing.
He wouldn't be just 'any worker.' He'd be an event signing who would be working a series of 'dream matches' that fans have thought about for years.
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The WWE is doing this obviously to promote the next upcoming masked superstar, Sin Cara because Rey Mysterio is near the end of his leash and they know the Mexican fans need someone to cheer and Sin Cara is going to be the new man.
Because Mexican fans can only cher guys with masks?
Indeed. I say they have Rey introduce Sin Cara to the fans, and then team Rey & Sin Cara as a tag-team and give them a run with the titles before Rey leaves the WWE. Then, catapult Sin Cara to the title, preferably held by Alberto Del Rio.Y'know...I keep hearing Rey is retiring and he keeps on "not retiring"
If I were him I'd tour Mexico for big $$$ for a year and then come back for one more run. His in-ring work hasn't suffered, and he's still over. Unless he's dying to hang 'em up, I don't see where there's this NEED to retire.
Sure he has his backstage issues, but they are no worse than quite a few guys on the roster.
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I repeat... just a TINY bit. Maybe not much, but he's adding it. He smells the money, and that's what matters to him.
I don't think it's the same think but I'm not going to pick nits.
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To explain that.. it's easy. Alberto Del Rio, and Rey Mysterio. Not much, just a teensy amount, but it's there. If you don't think Rey isn't an an attempt to appeal to the Lucha Libre market, even just a tiny bit...
A Mexican guy in a mask is does not = lucha libre.
And Del Rio is nothing - NOTHING - like his Dos Caras persona
Lucha is about the in-ring style and the presentation, as well as the masks. I would say that Rey hasn't worked a true lucha style match since his WCW days.
If you're saying that Vince and the WWE would add more hispanic workers and stars from Mexico to appeal to hispanic viewers, then I agree.
But that doesn't mean he's adding (or has added) any aspects of lucha other than whatever similaritiesthe two styles may have in general.
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So apparently Mistico's WWE name is going to be Sin Cara, which roughly translates into English as 'Faceless Heart'. If accurate, it would indicate he keeping a mask but we'll see.
Actually it translates into "Without Face" or "Faceless"
'Faceless Heart' would be Corazon Sin Cara
EDIT: you changed it.
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Maybe mistake, for sure. But I'm not talking about Mistico. I'm talking about Lucha Libre. Fititng Sports Entertainment within Lucha Libre is not easy task, yes. But the reverse... isn't so true. Sports Entertainment is a pretty flexible product. If Vince can add "ECW" and "Attitude" into his squeaky clean "Sports Entertainment", he can certainly add some Lucha Libre into it... I argue that he already has, if not at a huge amount.
I think you're right that he could add some lucha stars to the product..probably even create a division on SD
But what parts of lucha do you think he's added? Out of curiosity...
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Ultimo was/is a great psychologist though and can make almost anyone look good. I don't know why they didn't even at least utilize that...
You seriously don't know why the E didn't try to better utilizea guy's whose strongest attribute was his in-ring work?
Did you see how Dean Malenko's WWE run went?
I'll say this again - Vince's utimate goal is the bottom line... money. If it makes him money, he'll do it.Agreed. But based on the product, and the way they present their workers, I think that it's a Big IF that Mistico hits it big.
I hope I'm wrong though
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When Ultimo Dragon came to the WWE I was so excited. He was awesome! Then they didn't use him or push him. Really sad but oh well.
Ultimo and Mistico are incredibly similar...little to no English, promos aren't their strong suit, smallish, cruiser weight style wrestlers who might not fit the WWE's idea of ringwork...
That's why I have very tempered hopes fo MIstico
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If it makes vince money, I don't think it will hamper his tastes much. And look at Rey. It makes him money.
Meh...I don't know how much 'lucha' you can add. The biggest obstacle is still that the E is a sports-entertainment product and many of lucha's biggest names - including Mistico - aren't great at cutting promos and some aren't exactly great at speaking English.
It'll be a tough transition, but Mistico is an amazing talent so I really hope for the best for him.
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On a totally unrelated note:
- WWE and CMLL both have press conferences scheduled tomorrow in Mexico City, and one or both are expected to have to do with Mistico. Jim Ross is in Mexico for the press conference which is being taped, possibly for Raw. -
Ever the optimist, eh?
I was actually speaking about the fact that ODB returns tonight. I was saying that there's NO WAY Dixie would hype her return.
If it's Sting, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Specifically, it would make me feel like "yes she's this oblivious" but she's not dumb enough to hype up the aforementioned returnee.
The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*
in The Dog Pound
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I think it's great that you post news and all, but would you mind citing your sources?
Kinda meaningless to post gossip w/o at least knowing if it's from a believable site.
Because.. I mean..this:
..is utter crap. Just a total and complete steaming pile of BS.
Not criticizing you at all, but the site who posted that as "news" is incredibly stupid.