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Jackson vs the Giants could be a good match... Or the Giants finally wake up and remember how to win.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26529" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does Greg Schiano just hate his job and want to get fired? Because he's certainly on track. It's amazing how they lost winnable games against the Jets and others, benched their QB who has at least shown competency in the past to put in a completely raw guy in there who promptly throws 2 picks and doesn't move the ball even as well as Josh Freeman's zombie was doing. Oh, and how about completely sabotaging Josh Freeman? Ron Rivera's gotta be sitting in Carolina thinking "whew, finally a division opponent has a coach that doesn't make me look like a moron."</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> reports are coming out now that he is so meticulous that he will constantly go over scenarios that might never happen in a season instead of focusing on improving the offense.</p><p> </p><p> Schiano, has truly gotten everything he has asked for since coming to Tampa. He has done really well drafting the past two years as well, but some of that has to be credited to Dominick, Jimmy Raye, and Butch Davis as well. If he goes 1-7 I honestly see them dropping him and putting Sullivan or even Bryan Cox as interim coach.</p><p> </p><p> The team is undisciplined, there seems to be a divided locker room, and it's amazing how Freeman could be a 60% thrower before Schiano and fall to 55-45% with Schiano. I think Schiano may have destroyed Freeman and a move to the Cardinals or Vikes might benefit him the most.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26529" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sileo is now with 640 AM in Miami, third best sports station in the market (out of 4) if ratings are to be believed.<p> </p><p> He was fired from 560 AM in Miami (the flagship of the Miami Hurricanes) after his rant against the team after their loss against K-State) and sexist comments towards Erin Andrews. That, and an anti-semitic remark...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> good ole Dan, wait until something happens with the Dolphins and he makes a remark to get him suspended and then fired.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> So more surprising, the 0-4 Bucs or the 2-2 Browns (2-0 after Richardson trade)</p><p> </p><p> Me being a Bucs fan, it has to be the Bucs. This team came in with a lot of hope this season and 3 of their games have been loss on the finale plays. Defense is better, offense went no where.</p>

He has his fanboys here still, but I hate him. Where is he now?

From reports this will be the last... Sad In other funny news, ea did come to a settlement offer for the 200,000-300,000 college athletes involved in the suit...... The settlement offer comes out to..... 40 million. Now depending on what the lawyers take (when will people realize that class action lawsuits only benefit lawyers) that equates to.......... 200 dollars per person... If it's only 200k and before taxes and lawyer's take. What the athletes really won, is now there is no more Ea sport NCAA football. It's sad honestly. Yes ea has made a ton of money off this series and escaped a huge lawsuit with only 40 mil being given out. Yet, it's sad. Some of those guys got to be in a video game, NCAA makes 2 times as much as ea does a year from these players and yet now none of us get the game.... Even some of those in the lawsuit who played the game. Now this also might just be a stepping stone for the players against the NCAA, but something tells me NCAA has a plan to fix it's issues, they are just waiting until they truly needs to change. Oh well.... R.I.P NCAA football game.

<p>So I think I figured out how to fix the issue with college players making money.</p><p> </p><p> The NCAA should take the money that it makes from NCAA football video games and give the profits to the players for their likeness being used.</p><p> </p><p> NCAA has already said they weren't going to do the game anymore because of the lawsuit so it's not like they would be losing money. Each football player could possible gain another $3000 dollars from this, depending on the math and how many players their are.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26529" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah the NFC East sure is dreadful this year. The Cowboys might be the best in the division at "average." But again, the Eagles spotted the Chiefs 10 points and spent the whole game trying to dig their way out. You just can't do that in the NFL, no matter how good your offense is supposed to be. They're also killing their defense out there. The Eagles defense was on the field literally twice the amount of time the offense was on the field. Definitely two winnable games for the Eagles though. They're just not all that good, despite beating up a similarly bad Redskins team.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I like the fast paced offense, I think it is good for the sport. Problem is when you can score in 2 minutes, the Defense is left on the field for long. Also speeding up the tempo means more chances to turnover the ball.</p><p> </p><p> It's why I always think that teams that can pass and still have a reliable run game (Giants, Redskins, Texans, Seahawks, 49ers, Atlanta) are still the best. They can light you up through the air all day, but they can also pound the ball, keep you off balance, and save their defenses.</p><p> </p><p> Kelly will learn that his system can work, but in the NFL everyone is fast. It's sometimes is better to have the 3 scoring drives that take 7-8 minutes, than the 3 scoring drives that take 3-4 minutes.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26529" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The Eagles seem to have the talent to easily be an 8 win team if they could stop turning the ball over so much and play a little defense. They also play the AFC West, so they should be embarrassed if they don't go 3-1 there, especially with home games against the Chargers and Chiefs. It seems almost impossible for the defense to force only 13 turnovers again. If they could get up to league average instead of dead last, they'd be in better shape.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hmmm turnovers against chiefs, but not against chargers</p><p> </p><p> So far 0-2 against the AFC west</p>

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9603006/nflpa-files-grievance-new-england-patriots-aaron-hernandez-workout-bonuses-source-says complete shock about this. Firstly that Aaron has pretty much been a black sheep to the NFL and secondly they are only going after 88K. Just a little surprise the NFLPA would help a presumed murder

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A sign of how awful the media thinks the Marlins really are:<p> </p><p> One of the stations was advertising tickets for the Braves for their series in South Florida (rather than Marlins vs Braves tickets).</p><p> </p><p> Another talk show host has said in all seriousness that people should let Marlins players know they aren't in the majors yet...since the Marlins are a minor league team.</p><p> </p><p> Couldn't agree more!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> at least you have a young core who could become something</p>

<p>So with the trade deadline passing a couple of weeks ago, I've been thinking about the worst trades of all-time.</p><p> </p><p> one I use to love was the red sox trading bagwell away for 22 innings....</p><p> </p><p> The more and more I thought about it though, lead me to a different conclusion....</p><p> </p><p> The worst trade of all-time,</p><p> </p><p> The Florida Marlins trade Miggy and D-Will for nobody....</p><p> </p><p> Now while D-Will turned out to be a fad, Miggy was the real score here. Marlins were frustrated with him because he wouldn't sign their cheap contract, was overweight, and saw his stock at an all-time high so they traded him and a talented pitcher who had a rough year (signs of things to come) for what at the time was 3 of the Tigers 5 best prospects.</p><p> </p><p> Now since this trade Miguel has BECOME the best hitter in baseball, he even moved from first to third showing his leadership ability and almost won a W.S with the Tigers. Also, which has impressed me the most, he has cut down on his strikeout rate. Now for the Tigers it stinks that D-Willis didn't regain form, but Miggy for no one is still an amazing trade especially since it was rumored that Redsox were offered Clayton Kreshaw</p><p> </p><p> The Marlins... usually come out well on these deals, but this one truly screwed the team into an extended stay in the bottom of the league. If they had a real owner I could only imagine what a line up of Jose Reyes, Hanley Ramirez, Stanton, Miggy, and one of the great mangers they have let go... not named Ozzie</p><p> </p><p> Maybe the Marlins are just a joke of a team....</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26529" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, first off, I pointed out specifically that the Eagles were at home against the Chiefs and Chargers, which means all they need to do is hold at home and beat the Raiders in Oakland to go 3-1, which I don't think is exactly difficult, unless, as mentioned, the Eagles just give the ball away 3-4 times and get 0-1 takeaways.<p> </p><p> Second off, you basically have to throw out the Chiefs yardage numbers. They were 26th in points allowed and would've been worse if offenses hadn't taken the 4th quarter off against them all season. They lost 9 games by two touchdowns or more. The only reason the yardage numbers are below average and the points allowed isn't bottom two is they were out of more than half their games by the 4th quarter.</p><p> </p><p> The Chiefs should be happy if they improve to 7-8 wins, and are competitive in all but 3-4 games. And that's only because they get to play the Raiders and Chargers twice, and occasionally steal one from Denver at Arrowhead. Obviously Alex Smith is a big upgrade, but it's an upgrade that might push the team from "dead last" to "average" on offense.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We will have to wait and see. I believe an 8-8 to 9-7 season is doable, but my main point was you said it was embarrassing if Eagles didn't go 3-1 vs the AFC west and I don't think it will be.</p><p> </p><p> While Chargers aren't what they use to be, Phillip Rivers is still Phillip Rivers and at any point can be one of the elite QB in the league. The Chiefs have a lot of talent and a much better coach now then last year.</p><p> </p><p> Lastly, even an average offense that turns it over 20 times this year is still better than that god awful offense last year that turned it over 37 times and more than 18 times in their own territory</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26529" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The Eagles seem to have the talent to easily be an 8 win team if they could stop turning the ball over so much and play a little defense. They also play the AFC West, so they should be embarrassed if they don't go 3-1 there, especially with home games against the Chargers and Chiefs. It seems almost impossible for the defense to force only 13 turnovers again. If they could get up to league average instead of dead last, they'd be in better shape.<p> </p><p> Redskins on paper at least seem to have the most talent, but we'll see who actually shows up to play. Since they won their division they get to play SF at home and ATL on the road, two games that would've almost definitely been losses late last season.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't believe the AFC West is going to be that bad this year honestly. I think Alex Smith has finally developed into a solid starting QB (no not the best) and with a talented wideout, great running game (excited to see what Knile does to offset Jamaal), talent on the O-Line, and an improving defense.</p><p> </p><p> Last year the defense ranked 20 in total defense which means 3 division leaders and one wildcard winner gave up more yards pergame (Pats, Redskins, Falcons, Colts) but the 26th scoring defense though</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> On offense they were 24 with the 5th best rushing attack and the worst passing attack and worst scoring offense. Now I expect this to be a big area of improvement the also had the most T.O along with the Eagles at 37, with 20 being INT.</p><p> </p><p> Now, I believe Alex at the helm should result in 15-20 TD and 8-12 INT with at least 2500 in passing yards. If he can repeat his clip of 70% accuracy which was insane last year and I expect to drop back to about 62% which is still a huge improvement for the Chiefs, then we will see a team that might not win the division, but could very well contend for a playoff spot in a tough AFC.</p><p> </p><p> Also I'm very interested to watch Tyler Bray in the preseason</p><p> </p><p> Chargers:</p><p> </p><p> I am interested to see what McCoy, Whisenhunt, and Reich can do for Rivers and that once powerful offense</p><p> </p><p> Defense they were 13th in the league last year and Joe Barry is their linebackers coach. Barry I a very talented linebacker coach and with a product like Teo I would be interested to see how he develops under Barry.</p><p> </p><p> Oakland.... well it's Oakland. If Flynn takes off then they could possibly due very well, but if Flynn or god forbid Pryor don't due well, then Oakland is competing for a top 2014 QB prospect. My favorite being Casey Pachall out of TCU and Aaron Murray of UG</p><p> </p><p> 3-1 is possible for Eagles against the AFC WEST, but 2-2 is also a good possibility.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Active Jerichoholic" data-cite="Active Jerichoholic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26529" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Exactly, there's a reason Michael Vick hasn't started a full season...ever? Now, RGIII is a way better passer then Vick is even now, but if he doesn't learn when to give up and get down or out of bounds he won't make it long term.<p> </p><p> I completely agree, I saw that he said he'll break Emitt Smith's record by the end of 2017... I don't know if he was joking or is just insane. Even if he holds up that long, his style and teammates don't do him enough favors to get that done unless he becomes/is a cyborg.</p><p> </p><p> The NFC East is always a crap-shoot, because Eli Manning plays like he's in high-school all the time. If he wasn't so crazy with the ball they'd dominate the division barring major injuries.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Vick's last season wth the Falcons he started all 16, it was also his best season... go figure</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Active Jerichoholic" data-cite="Active Jerichoholic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As a Boston fan, I think it's definitely where you live and the fact that it must be a huge part of the people that live there. I don't have the same perspective as those people since I've only been a fan of Boston teams since I was 13 and have lived all over the place, so I don't have that instinctual " I have to hate New York" attitude. I will say that when I lived in New Jersey and during my several trips to New York during those years I got treated very similarly by born and bred Yankees fans when sports came up and or I had my Boston memorabilia on. It's something that would be awesome if it was contained to the games, but so many people feel compelled to shove their favorite teams in people's faces like they've somehow helped them achieve anything. <p> </p><p> All that said, I do think it's just kind of a thing for long term successful market fans to get an elitist attitude, and the fact that their rivals have been so good for awhile now has just made things worse. Teams with big fan populations will have plenty of jerks, as there's just plenty of jerks in the world. Personally, I like and therefore pull mainly for the Red Sox. I've never treated a Yankee fan differently than any other sports fan. Are the games the Red Sox and Yankees play more meaningful and therefore stressful for me? Absolutely, but I still respect their players and want their best shot and hope the Sox can still be better. I think we should all just enjoy talking baseball and enjoying great games between two great teams.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> I thought it was a sign of respect more than anything.... No that's a lie, it was a happy clap. Lets face it everyone who isn't a Yankee should clap when he comes out this year, due to the fact that since 97 he has made teams and fans hate going to the 9th losing to the Bronx spenders. People in New York should be booing him when he comes out because you are losing the only guarantee on that team.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26529" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>All of the cities in the NFC South are college football towns really. I dont think they care as much about the pros anyway.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Man how do you know it's been forever.... When you cannot even remember your password</p><p> </p><p> I'd like to disagree with this statement. Tampa's college team is USF..... Ya, right there is enough to rest the case for Tampa being a college town.</p><p> </p><p> Atlanta... Yeah kind of, but bulldogs and yellowjackets have not always been the best football teams. Falcons outside of the past 6 seasons have just been a crappy franchise in a city that was a basketball town back when the hawks were a good franchise and baseball town because of the braves.</p><p> </p><p> New Orleanes is not a college town at all... They root for the Tigers mainly because Tulane is gawd awful, but also Tigers were that great until Saban came along.</p><p> </p><p> Carolina.... That's more just a basketball area, but since the panthers have come into play they have supported their team very well.</p><p> </p><p> The problem with the NFC south is similar to the AFC south (from what i remember) is that they were the last divisions done and they were not know between each other really. Tampa came from the NFC north, saints were out in the west I believe and I think only falcons and panthers were playing each other yearly.</p><p> </p><p> The falcons vs saints picked up quick because of the family relationship between Vick and Aaron Brooks.</p><p> </p><p> Bucs vs Carolina is always a go game back in the day because they were the two best at the start of the division</p><p> </p><p> Saints vs bucs have a history with the bucs first win and now having pretty good games between each other</p><p> </p><p> Falcons vs bucs.... It's a good rivilary because of the bucs always beating up on Vick back in the day, but also the games are usually close games</p><p> </p><p> Falcons vs Carolina I don't know much about other than they are right next to each other.</p><p> </p><p> I believe they are getting better with each battle and bad blood will continue to build, but since no real rivilary between the four was there it will take a couple more years.</p>