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Stats, as others have mentioned, I agree so of the Popluarity needs updating. And I didnt have time to add workers liek Keith Lee, Matt Riddle or Lio Rush. As for the idea behind the stats ratings. It is the best of all time agreed. So to reflex that if you take workers like Hulk Hogan he was a wrestler that transended wrestling into mainstream popularity. The Rock is also similar to this. These types of workers I feel will be the A* workers. Other workers like Bret, Eddie, CM Punk were massive stars inside wrestling, they are known somewhat outside wrestling as well. They also elevated wrestling to another performance level. Maybe A or at the least B+ Then down to worker that are midcard legends like The Godfather, Tully Blanchard thes types would be C+ to C-. The overall idea is to think the entire worker list is one roster, and work from there. Also it has to be recognized that all historical fantasy mods have to based on opinion just as Okada vs. Omega II is rated on opinion Other aspects that need completion is the migration of gimmicks and tag teams to TNA from NWA-TNA and visa-versa. Also I didnt add any satircal narratives which is something id like to add in if someone will complete the rest

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ZakZero" data-cite="ZakZero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>so many people reached out and asked if you needed any help at all and you either didn't respond or said no. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just because I didnt respond to you, doesnt mean I didnt respond.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ZakZero" data-cite="ZakZero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> You gave yourself a workload you couldn't handle. This isn't trying to be a shoot but from me to you, there's no point in having whatever you have done sit there and collect dust.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Your wrong, workload I couldnt handle, if I had the hindsight of yoursel then I wouldnt be hanging around forums criticising peoples work ethics.</p><p> </p><p> And really?....really? I mean the front page is updated. Check your sel, before etc....</p><p> </p><p> And your only salient point, yes the version is "parts unknown" what it needs is someone to finish it off. And that person can PM me and ill consider takers. </p><p> </p><p> Tommy started a great thing years ago and it really needs to continue. </p><p> </p><p> So yeah enjoy the 99% complete version and people please PM me for further talks.</p><p> </p><p> ZakZero whats your favourite parts of the WOTI series, since youre jonesing for a fix?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ZakZero" data-cite="ZakZero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>RIP in Peace</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Reason why not to put this out</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="vtechguy" data-cite="vtechguy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Patience. Is. Key.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Reasons why to put this out</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bluestillidie00" data-cite="Bluestillidie00" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maybe something has come up and this is the last thing on his mind? Just be patient, spamming the thread isn't going to help.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Correct</p><p> </p><p> Im broke. Zero cash. No money, I dont even own a copy of this game. I cant afford a copy of this game. It was about 10 years ago I started playing TEW and about 6 since my first mod. Life is different now. I just dont have the time, I work and I work and I work. I have a child now, I have moved SIX TIMES in 3 years. I tap out brother. Unless someone on here is a <span style="color:#FF0000;">Money Mark</span> and can throw a brother <span style="color:#FF0000;">£20k</span> so i can quit my job for a year. Pay my bills, pay solicitors to sort my ****ing ex out so I can see my child, IF there is someone who can donate £20k then I will make a perfect version of this game [and not probably kill myself due to starvation]. no? didnt think so. Oh well </p><p> </p><p> <strong>So long and thanks for all the fishermen suplex</strong></p>

<p>Right lets talk Titles,</p><p> </p><p> Firstly TNA Titles.</p><p> </p><p> So NWA-TNA and TNA Impact Wrestling now exist in WOTI5, here is the rough draft of the title situation.</p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>NWA-TNA</strong></p><p> </p><p> NWA World Heavyweight Championship [NWA Alliance]</p><p> NWA World Tag Team Championship [NWA Alliance]</p><p> TNA X-Division Championship</p><p> TNA Super X Cup Tournament [Tournament]</p><p> TNA World X Cup Tournament [Tournament]</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>TNA Impact Wrestling</strong></p><p> </p><p> TNA World Heavyweight Championship </p><p> TNA World Tag Team Championship</p><p> TNA Women's Knockout Championship</p><p> TNA Television Championship</p></div><p></p><p></p>

You are right that 60 would probably be too much load time. As for WOTI ethos, well yeah you are sorta correct. WOTI is about having [like it says on the tin] all the immortals waring against each other. As the series has progressed I have added to this idea by trying to represent "era's" or "genre's" of wrestling. So for example, in WOTI4 I including FMW not just to add to the Japanese scene, but also it represented a certain style and era of wrestling. OVW is a defining era of wrestling, it is the time before WWE cared about developmental and words like NXT and Performance Centre are way way off. So this brings me to APW, firstly yes you are correct PWG does need to be more popular than APW and this and many other popularity ratings are something that will be addressed in WOTI5. But to say it doesnt really "deserve" to be in WOTI is off the mark sir. Firstly yes APW gained fame through Beyond the Mat [bTM], and this is one reason why its in the mod. BTM is a important "moment" in pro wrestling history IMO. Also APW is in WOTI to show the American Indies before the likes of PWG, Chikara and CZW,. Basically before indy promotions were hip. It could be replace with a promotion like Jersey All Pro Wrestling. ECWA is argueable the "weakest" immortal. As for the suggestion of Hoodslam its just a very different concept. Maybe even Kaiju Big Battel. Incredible Strange Wrestling was a crazy company from the mid 90s

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Celt" data-cite="The Celt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>WOTI has always been more of an America-centric mod anways, so having two eras of TNA wouldn't be insane. <p> </p><p> Splitting the roster might be a bit tricky, but it'd doable. Make NWA:TNA the real original roster with guys like Low Ki, Jerry Lynn, Christopher Daniels, Monty Brown, while Impact would be guys like the Pope, Bobby Roode, James Storm, Robbie E, Zemi Ion etc. Not sure who'd get AJ Styles; you might have to give him to Impact to make up for the fact Impact won't have Jeff or Matt Hardy if the Attitude era retains them. Or even put him in both. </p><p> </p><p> I think adding another era of TNA makes more sense than adding Japanese promotions. I can't imagine too many people actually play Japan in WOTI, because A) There's not all that much going on in Japan in WOTI and B) Japan isn't loaded up with Legends the way America has been in WOTI. </p><p> </p><p> I guess NWA:TNA would get the Spike TV slot while Impact Wrestling would be on Pop.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sir you are on the money, Tommys original WOTI didnt include Japanese promotions and I added this in with WOTI 3 onwards, same with Mexico. This being said I am still adding DG and going ahead with the TNA split. With This happening the Company count will reach 56, so I might add 4 more companies. Maybe FMW, what about niche companies like Hoodslam, Incredible Strange Wrestling and even DDT and/or HUSTLE could make a come back?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="vtechguy" data-cite="vtechguy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh yeah, TNA/Impact Wrestling has come a long way from the Asylum days.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Too true, but ironically they have regressed below the Aslyum days?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Markw" data-cite="Markw" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'll be very sad if AJ Styles or AMW aren't in NWA:TNA.<p> </p><p> As somebody who went off TNA around 2007, I'm definitely a big fan of the idea of splitting TNA in two like that.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Im not too sure what you'll do when you get your hands on WOTI5!</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RaptorMcFly" data-cite="RaptorMcFly" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think NWA TNA would be better fit on Fox Sports and the 2008 to present would be better fit on Spike.The Spike era was "bigger" as having Hogan and EB involved and they dropped the NWA name in 2007. Obviously Hogan and Bischoff have bigger runs so I wouldn't expect them to be in TNA. Maybe there is enough for a 3rd TNA?<p> </p><p> Jeff Jarrett, Monty Brown, AMW (or just Chris Harris), Petey Williams, Michael Shane, Kid Kash, Chris Sabin, Lance Hoyt in NWA TNA</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Samoa Joe, Kaz, Daniels, Roode, Alex Shelley, Morgan, LAX in Spike Era</p><p> </p><p> Wes Brisco, Garrett Bischoff, DJ Z, Joseph Park, Crimson, Rob Terry, EC3, Crazzy Steve in 3rd </p><p> </p><p> NWA TNA: 2002 - 2005</p><p> Spike 2006 - 2011</p><p> Pop 2012 to Present</p><p> </p><p> Thoughts?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is something that will happen if WOTI6 is made</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Chikbot" data-cite="Chikbot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah, TNA will be missing plenty people if we seperate it into two companies<p> </p><p> We won't have Matt Hardy on IMPACT</p><p> Joe will probably be in ROH by default</p><p> The Dudleys will be in ECW by default</p><p> Daniels might be in ROH</p><p> AJ will probably be there</p><p> Christian will be in WWF Attitude like the last WOTI</p><p> </p><p> To be honest, seperating it into 2 rosters is watering it down</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Correct</p><p> <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Maybe</span></p><p> Correct</p><p> Incorrect</p><p> Where?</p><p> Ask His Peeps</p>

<p>One more "idea" </p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">What about splitting TNA into 2 companies.</span></strong></p><p> <a href="https://ibb.co/b2wFiv" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="what.jpg" data-src="https://image.ibb.co/ezPPbF/what.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p><p> Wait hear me out. So TNA has "grown" as a company since TEW2013, and by that I mean, much like your mum everyones been given a chance, and by that I mean the Roster could be massive and there is a distict difference between the old NWATNA and the new Impact Wrestling TNA.</p><p> </p><p> So my vision is to have NWATNA as part of the NWA obviously, this would add more prestige onto the Alliance as well. Then have Impact Wrestling as an Independent.</p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>NWA-TNA </strong></p><p><strong> 2002–2007</strong></p><p><strong> Owner- Jeff Jarrett/Dixie Carter</strong></p><p><strong> Booker- Scott D'Amore/Jeff Jarrett</strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong> Impact Wrestling </strong></p><p><strong> 2008-2017</strong></p><p><strong> Owner- Dixie Carter/Billy Corgan</strong></p><p><strong> Booker- Dave Lagana</strong></p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> Thoughts? </p><p> </p><p> I understand that Dixie was there a long time before 2008 but Corgan doesnt really fit. As for the bookers. I understand that Lagana is a weak choice and people like Russo, Bischoff and Prichard were more in charge than Lagana, but they have bigger more important roles else where in the WOTI5 Universe, maybe even Lagana is better suited else where. So yeah what you saying people?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RaptorMcFly" data-cite="RaptorMcFly" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Since you already mentioned alliances, can you give us an outline of the Alliance title plans? I hope each alliance gets a world, if not a tag or women's as well.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <a href="https://ibb.co/nrhAGF" rel="external nofollow"><img alt="tumblr_inline_nb5hh38_U9_L1r54n0t.jpg" data-src="https://image.ibb.co/jtE1Ov/tumblr_inline_nb5hh38_U9_L1r54n0t.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Chikbot" data-cite="Chikbot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thanks, I'm sorry to ruin the surprise, but it helps people better decide who they want to be added<p> </p><p> Might I suggest EMLL as an option for the classic lucha flare?</p><p> </p><p> Or FMW too as well since they were basically the inventors of deathmatch wrestling,maybe combine it with WING*, Apache Army and Big Japan into a Japanese Deathmatch company </p><p> </p><p> Or to complete the Deathmatch alliance that exists IRL, maybe BJPW?</p><p> </p><p> if you don't add Big Japan, please give us the ability to sign guys from there because their Hardcore talent along with their big men are amazing.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have EMLL/CMLL in the National Wrestling Alliance.</p><p> </p><p> As for FMW, They were in WOTI4 and I do like a bit of the old ultraviolence myself sometimes, but alas they folded over the last 4 years [breaking kayfabe I felt that I wanted to shake things up a bit] this doesnt mean they might not make a comeback in a future edition.</p><p> </p><p> And this leads me on to Big Japan. I have some knowledge of BJPW, biut feel it would just be replacing FMW with BJPW. I will however look to add more workers from the company into the FA's.</p><p> </p><p><strong> EDIT: Just remembered I started adding DG last night!</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Celt" data-cite="The Celt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do you any kind of logo or the actual logo? Because I've looked but can't seem to find any instances of a real logo for them.<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thank you Sir.</p><p> </p><p> As for the logo I have also scowered the internet for a logo of some sort. I have even thought about just screencapping some credits on the old Slammy Video release's. </p><p> Ideally I would like to have a logo that is befitting the era so 1984 - 2003 is a long time, but more of a late 80's to mid 90's feel to a original logo would be fantastic. Also using the Font or something very similar from the Vinnie Mac press pass I used on the front page.</p><p> </p><p> The bottom line is, I will happily consider anything that people are willing to produce.</p>

Front Page has Company List And if someone would be so kind as to make a TITAN SPORTS Logo for me that would be amazing, the one in the info graphics at the front of the thread was just thrown together.

Sir you think exactly like me. I agree NOAH is basically AJPW-Lite, OPW has most of its stars in the FA's anyway, buuuutt, Dragon Gate is the promotion I am least familiar with [this doesnt mean I wont go with the majority, or put 123487% into making the Company. So with that all in mind your last question.....well I did state I didn't want to release the company list [i enjoy the anticipation, just like the Survivor Series 1990] but since you asked and basically by that I mean agreed with me ill put together a list, including Alliance's!

<p>Hey people,</p><p> </p><p> Sorry for the lack of update or info. So im here to hopefully answer some questions. I will post an update graphic on the front page of the thread very soon, but I have one element of WOTI5 that everyone can help with.</p><p> </p><p> I currently have 54 promotions (spoiler!) and my OCD for "round numbers" has me wanting to add one more promotion. </p><p> </p><p> Now I am not gonna publish my company list, but I will say that I am leaning heavily on including a none american promotion. IF i was to add another American company it would have to be either a niche company or an oversite by my part.</p><p> </p><p> So please suggest any promotion, here is my current list i am considering;</p><p> </p><p> </p><ul><li>Osaka Pro Wrestling<br /></li><li>Dragon Gate<br /></li><li>NOAH<br /></li></ul><p></p>

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<p></p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><span style="font-size:36px;"><strong><span style="font-family:Impact;">PLEASE STAND BY FOR NEWS, JUST NEWS, NO RELEASE......YET.....SORRY BUT HOPEFULLY YOU'LL ALL UNDERSTAND. </span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size:36px;"><strong><span style="font-family:Impact;"> </span></strong></span></p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:8px;">THIS HAS LOST ANY IMPACT, NOW ITS JUST A RAMBLE</span></span></p></div><p></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="phenomenal3:16" data-cite="phenomenal3:16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>any idea on a release date?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well after a stiffer year than Stan Hansen and Vader in a Planking Competition while watching 1996 Sunny go at it with 2001 Trish Stratus, dont call it a comeback... I've been here for years.</p><p> </p><p> Anyway since I dont have a life (anymore) and after my heart having taking such a beating this year it is now harder than a Japanese Table, I predict I could (hopefully will) have the Fifth War Of The Immortals released by 31.12.16</p><p> </p><p> I'll take any further questions from the floor thank you</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Winter8905" data-cite="Winter8905" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41237" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ohh nice two of the mods I have been waiting for the most to be made are out at a similar time. <p> </p><p> I hope this gets released before I go on deployment the start of next year <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> can't download anything once i'm away.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> When are you deployed Sir?</p>