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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Adam Ryland" data-cite="Adam Ryland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44604" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>All three are in.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How would you have to change a fighter that he uses these creative and flashy punches at a very high rate? </p><p> </p><p> I personally have seen a flying knee very rarely and I think only in situations where a fighter was dazed. And maybe a spinning backfist ones but I'm not 100% sure right now. A Superman punch definitly escaped me up until now though.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Briskout" data-cite="Briskout" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44604" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What would happen if I tried to put a belt in a catchweight fight?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As far as I know you can fight for weight class belts in Catchweight fights or even in a different weight class. The only obsticle is that both fighters theoretically have to be able to make the weight of the belt. In my save for example I'm putting a super fight up between my Light Heavyweight and Middleweight champion but I contest it at Light Heavyweight. Because the LHW Champion is also able to make the Middleweight weightclass I could've also put the Middleweight title of the champion on the line. Not necessarily how it works in RL but this is how the game operates.</p>

<p>Like I promissed I've got a big anniversary card upcoming and wanted to share that here with a preview and a following aftermath post. <em>(Warning!: It got super long so you might want to skip through some stuff. The last 3 fights + 3rd and 4th are must reads imo)</em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> It's the 100th GAMMA show in the default set up with very small tweaks. I play with medium injury rates, low legal issues and no deaths. I recently changed the genereted fighter count but it didn't have much of an effect yet. Right now I don't think any generated fighter is close to shoot up into the elite tier of a division. I also immediately added every missing divison, the 3 womans divisions and blew up the roster to about 500-600 fighters. Now I'm a little over 3 years into the save and pretty much every interesting fighter is on my roster apart from a few guys who aren't elite and have an unattractive style. The fighter that best supports that is Osamu Dan whos still with Alpha.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> So thats kind of the setup. In terms of what this anniversary show kind of means in my save and what I want to achieve with it ideally I basically want to make it by far the most important show with several elite main events on the card. All the best champions, backstory fights (which didn't work out too well in this instance) and the most interesting up and comers who are very close to the elite ranks and I'm super excited for. For this PPV all fights will be 5x5 min RNDs instead of just the Main Events & other Titel fights.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> One quick note before hand:</p><p> My biggest and pretty unforgivable mistake in setting up this card up was not having Pamela O'Neill on. Origanily I wanted to match her up in a super fight against long term Featherweight Champ Hester Maclean but she surprisingly lost her last match at GAMMA 93 against a fairly meh contender and that idea was therefore out the window. With those plans destroyed I had a complete brain fart and set O'Neill up for a title defense against Lehane at GAMMA 97 which she won but had no chance to make it on the 100 card just 9 weeks later with a long recuperation. To quickly put her resume in perspective, she went 10-0 in simulated fights now. Won the Bantamweight belt late in 2002, successfully defended it 6 times since and won the historic first Womans PPV Main Event which happend to be a Super fight against the undefeated Flyweight Champion at the time Daniela Sadorra. The resume also led to 3 straight Female Fighter of the Year Awards and you could argue it gives her the best run male or female period in this save...</p><p> Now I wanna give her the first PPV Main Event outside the US in GAMMA history possibly in her home country but the damage is done :/</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>So here we go! These fights are booked with 4 weeks to go so they could change due to injury.</strong> <em>(The braketed records are the results during the save)</em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">1st Match</span></strong></p><p> <em>Womans Featherweight Championship</em></p><p> Kelly Andrews © 8-1 (3-0) vs. Erin Distefano 3-0 (3-0)</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> Andrews surprisingly won the Title at GAMMA 93 against Hester Maclean who was on a super dominant run winning every single one of her previous 6 GAMMA fights. After winning the Belt in dominant fashion in 5 RNDs (2x 50-43, 50-42) against Romi Takahashi at GAMMA 73. Maclean went on brutalizing Lehane in 5 RNDs with an even more dominant 1st defense (2x 50-38, 50-37) and defendeing against Alisha Wood via 2nd RND TKO before losing to Kelly. What made it even more surprising that Andrews came off an almost 2 year long layoff after suffering a torn ACL in august of 03. Andrews will defend against the hottest up and coming woman on the planet right now in Erin Distefano. The 21 year old has made a very strong impression with 3 dominant early stoppages. All of them not even taking 7 minutes. Distefanos last win came against a contender herself in Tabitha Cameron who was on a 3 fight win streak and very close to a Title fight herself. With that impressive W on her resume she gets the first crack at the yet to be established new featherweight champion looking to defend for the first time.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">2nd Match</span></strong></p><p> <em>Light Heavyweight</em></p><p> Danny Akabaro 15-1 (6-1) vs. Valentin Taneyev 16-2 (5-2)</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> Akabaro one of the hottest young commodities in GAMMA will face a perenniel contender Taneyev who always comes close but short in his big fights. This will be a great opportunity for Akabaro to proof he belongs in the Octagon with the best the LHW division has to offer. He already started by beating Niko Soldo at Battle Lines 27 making it 5 straight Ws since his GAMMA debut. His only loss came against Matthew Michael Kirby in his last BCF fight. Taneyev meanwhile beat up the middle class of the division pretty good, also getting his most impressive W to date with beating Curt Kitson recently. Just in big fights he hasn't deliver yet. He lost a split decision to Anthony LeToussier late in 02 and lost a decision to Spencer Rubenstein the former long term LHW Champ early in 04.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">3rd Match</span></strong></p><p> <em>Womans Flyweight</em></p><p> Daniela Sadorra 14-2 (6-2) vs. Nina Belle 11-3 (2-2)</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> Daniela Sadorra became the first female ever to become GAMMA Champion, in an historic 5 RND fight against Clare Peyton in Febuary of 2002. From that point on she absolutely dominated her competition stopping the next 5 contenders early (Samir, Belle, Rives, Rogers & Oliver). With her division being down on deserving contenders and a Womans fight never making the Main Event, GAMMA 85 was created. A super fight with the undefeated Champion and the super dominant Batamweight Champ Pamela O'Neill was set up. O'Neill won 4 straight title fights at that point and won both previous fighter of the year honors leading up to the clash. With the catchweight agreed upon at 128 pounds to not have both titles on the line the two went to war with Sadorra narrowly missing out in the end. She won the first two RNDs, the second one in dominating fashion as she had O'Neill dazed in the maddle of that RND with a thunderous head kick. Ultimately she lost in RND 3 though due to a kimura. Unfortunately her loss put her in a downward spiral where she immediately lost to the following flyweight contender Jenny DeNeuve who took the title off her with a 1st RND TKO victory at GAMMA 90. Now looking to get back to her winning ways she fights a former contender in Nina Belle. Those two met previously in October 2002 where Sadorra put Belle out early in RND 2. Belle on the other hand has two wins against lower tier contenders on her hands (Holmes & Rives) but couldn't win the big fight yet. Losing out in the Sadorra title fight and in a recent loss to Sandy Oliver. Now she looks to finally beat a Flyweight blue blood and go for another run to the top of the division.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">4th Match</span></strong></p><p> <em>Middleweight</em></p><p> Ramos da Silva Ramos 15-1 (8-1) vs. Heiji Endo 20-4 (5-2)</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> The fight of two guys previously on top of the world trying to get back to that place. Ramos is coming off losing his Middleweight Title in his second defense. In a fight where two great comets on the Middleweight horizon collided and Ramos came up with the short end of the stick. It was the Re-Match of his fight against Isaiah Monroe which he lost quickly via TKO in RND 1. Before that he went on an incredible streak putting elite Middleweight contention out left and right (Petey Mack & Brauilo Moura). Winning the Title against an impressive Matthew Dean and defending it against da Guia before losing to Monroe. Endo on the other hand was the Fighter of the year in 2002 while winning the Alpha MW Championship against Fontes, switching to GAMMA and immediately winning that Title as well against Buddy Garner. He also started 03 in style with his first defence against Napier in a 4th RND stoppage victory. But lost his Title in the next fight against the old Champ returning from injury, Matthew Dean. After blowing his come back fight against Adam White he finds himself again on winning ways due to a win against Fjodor Kanchelskis in the Battle Lines 26 Main Event.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">5th Match</span></strong></p><p> <em>152 LBS Catchweight</em></p><p> Sukarno 34-2 (4-2) vs. Li-Kong Ho 26-5 (5-3)</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> The Middle of the card is occupied by a match up between two of my favorite fighters during my first ever WMMA 3 playthrough. Sukarno was this super exciting knockout machine, with crazy punches that won pretty much everything. And Ho literally won everything period. Didn't lose one fight and submitted everybody before I stopped the save like 4 or 5 years in. In this save they are both underwhelming a bit. Sukarno lost his Alpha LW Championship immediately against Atep of Indonesia. Then won his last two with Alpha against unimpressive opponents although he got his belt back before he came to us. His first GAMMA fight was for the LW Title which he also lost against Helio via Leg Kick. Now he got back on track with back to back wins against Jake Keane and Naizen Hamacho. Ho also had his problems. Losing the two title shots he got against Ziskie and Banner and also losing a split decision to Fyre after the Banner loss. Now he's also back on track with wins against Bohlin & Dudok. I hope the winner will catapult into another stratusphere and finally get going.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">6th Match</span></strong></p><p> <em>Heavyweight</em></p><p> James Foster 40-6-1 (3-2) vs. Kanezane Fujii 13-1 (6-0)</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> This fight is best described with Legend vs. Rising Star. The living GAMMA Legend will face against the Japanease Phenom on his way to the top of the mountain in the HW division. After suffering a long term injury (herniated spinal disk) in early 2002 Foster had to relinquish the title he previously held and defended for 6 1/2 years. After being out for over a year he came back to claim his Championship back from a fairly fresh Champ in Rav Kapur he defeated in a 5 RND decision. But the farytale ended quickly as he lost the title immediately to another HW Legend in the sport Hassan Fezzik in a quick TKO finish in under 2 minutes. After suffering another quick loss against Terron Cabal to put him on the back foot for good he came back with two wins against guys on the outside looking in of the Heavyweight contender tier. Now back with momentum on his side he is looking for one more run to the top of the hill. Fujii on the other hand is red hot winning 3 fights with Alhpa 1 and another 3 right off the bat in GAMMA against tough competition. One for example agaianst a previous Champ in Rav Kapur. Now he's looking for one or two more fights before he can potentially fight for the Heavyweight Crown.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">7th Match</span></strong></p><p> <em>Heavyweight Championship</em></p><p> Lars-Gunnar Ekberg © 15-0 (8-0) vs. Hiro Arai 24-5 (3-0)</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> The first of the 3 Main Championship Fights to end the best GAMMA Card ever. Lars-Gunnar Ekberg is the new Heavyweight Champion winning his Title currently at GAMMA 92 against Aleksander Ivanov. Who was on a terrifying win streak himself winning the title (vs. Fezzik) and defending the belt twice against elite contenders (Lopes & Cabal). Ekbergs build up in his early years was careful with the best opponents being guys like Hoynes or Dooley and he got his shot with two impressive wins against contenders like Pai Cheng & Lefter Oktay. Meanwhile Arai just had 3 GAMMA fights but was seen as an elite HW before he switched from Alpha to GAMMA. His first fight was a tune up against Fritz Phipps after he had a 2 1/2 year layoff after his 2001 defeat against Hassan Fezzik. He avenged that loss in June of 2004 though and won the following contender fight against Lefter Oktay a few months afterward which set him up for this titlefight in a tumultuous division.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">CO-MAIN EVENT</span></strong></p><p> <em>Featherweight Championship</em></p><p> Lamont Banner © 15-0 (7-0) vs. Fernando Peragon 17-3 (4-0)</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> Lamont Banner has possibly the most impressive streak going as he is undefeated and on top of the world now for quite some time. He became interim Champion for the first time in May of 03 when Ziskie had to pull out of the undisputed titel bout as he suffered a long term injury and he defeated Tomohiro Takeuchi. After a successful interim defence against Li-Kong Ho he finally unified the Featherweight belts in May of 2004 against the first ever and dominant GAMMA Featherweight Champ Philip Ziskie. He recently defended his belt for the first time against Sammy Gaffigan with a quick 1st RND KO. Fernando Peragon has only had 4 GAMMA fights up to this point but is a strong finisher with every fight being stopped early and defeating top contenders in his last two fights (Diggle & Dalglish).</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>MAIN EVENT</strong></span></p><p> <em>Light Heavyweight Championship</em></p><p> Zvonimir Asanovic © 40-5 (8-1) vs. Isaiah Monroe © 16-1 (8-0)</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> For the Main Event I chose to put on a super fight which will be contested at 205 for the Light Heavyweight Titel. It is the second super fight I made in this save and the first one between two male fighters. It's the Light Heavyweight Champion VS Middleweight Champion, 2x Fighter of the year (2003 & 2004) VS the hottest fighter in MMA. Asanovic is now the LHW Champ for almost 2 years, he won the title from an impressive Champion himself Spencer Rubenstein in June of 2003. Since then he defended his Belt successfully against 4 quality oppontents (Raul Hughes, Tadamasa Yamada, Mike Watson & Affonso Villar). His only blemish came in the Alpha 1 Light Heavyweight Tournament Final loss against Jiroemon Hasagawa via 6th RND decision early in 2002. Meanwhile Isaiah Monroe hasn't lost a fight since July of 2001 (vs. Ramon da Silva Ramos). He's been on a 8 fight win streak ever since with guys on his hit list like Buddy Garner, Neil Napier, Dwayne Alleyne & Adam White. Knocking out every single one of his opponents within 3 RNDs. His most impressive win yet came at GAMMA 95 where he avenged his only loss and became MW Champion against Ramon da Silva Ramos. Who was undefeated with probabaly the most impressive set of victories at that point in time.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> So hopefully I got a few of you intrested in the card. At the very least I have a cool timestamp I can look back to after another few years or possibly at the next anniversary. I'll update this probably in the next few days, possibly even tommorrow with the results and the aftermath of the event. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44606" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yup, it's really tricky to balance those mega cards with other cards near them. Hard to not just make them black holes that absorb every good match nearby, haha. Aww, too bad that fight ended quickly. Hopefully they'll meet again and deliver more action the next time.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> True! I have the main card pretty much set up now. I'll probably post the card here in full before it happens, give like a quick explanation and let y'all see it unfold a day later or so. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Made a few mistakes with two fighters I can't get on now. My LHW Champ was supposed to be available. Although that wasn't 100% on me. Asanovic fought on GAMMA 94 which was like 4 or 5 months before 100 so he just had a bad recuperation time. My big mistake was to book O'Neill at GAMMA 97. She should've really been on this card. By far the most successful woman in my save. Went 10-0 now from the start, 7 titel fights won and that first ever Champ vs. Champ Super fight against an undefeated Sadorra at the time. I probably make that up by putting her in the main event on our first ever PPV outside the US but that was a huge miss...</p><p> </p><p> Edit: Obviously O'Neill just became the female fighter of the year a third time in a row. You can pretty much call her like the best fighter of that save period. Something in the stratusphere of Rousey before Holm... :/ Btw Asanovic became FotY of 2004 as well.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44606" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Failing in this case means I return home (or wake up) to find an error message indicating the program has "lost connection to the drive", failed to save, and now has to close. So I wind up losing whatever progress had simulated during that work day or sleep period. The one-company save is with a substantially smaller database. Roughly 300 active fighters (all working for one company) versus 1500 active fighters (working for various companies or unemployed). Now I need to find the sweet spot between 300 and 1500 to see where it starts to get funky. It's fairly logical that the one with 300 fighters simulates more than 5 times as fast, but not that I can sim 5 years on the smaller database while the larger database is creating a temporary file so large after less than a month of simulation that it fails to save on a hard drive with ample space. It's weird. <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> That really sucks! Your save was really cool and well made. 3 equal top companies. The only thing missing there are like Champ vs. Champ fight every two years or something like that.^^</p><p> </p><p> But well it's really tough because your fail happend very late in the save... hopefully it's just a matter of lowering the regeneration numbers a little bit down.</p><p> </p><p> You probably tried this already but the problem couldn't be that you have pic requirement on and everything is used up? Probably way to obvious and you tried that already...</p>

Yeah I really hope I can build a good one but making the other cards around good enough is also a challenge. I'm already at a Mid International size but I could take a step back or two since I'm not really worried about money anyway or popularity. I just want to make the best and most intersting fights. Already blew like 40 Mil away because I created an Internet global PPV provider which brought in like 4 times less then my USA Free Choise / all around the world coverage at the time. Now I created several enourmous single nation normal PPV providers and I'm having the money now to invest into a free global chanel that will cover my weak Battle Lines shows which I book at a throwaway level. Hopefully it helps with getting fighters popular more quickly as they should have tons of eyes on them now. And the Ramos vs. Monroe fight happend now. Sadly it was a quick one. Monroe got his revenge in just 2 min and 35 seconds. Had a good rating but I was hoping for a little more action. After all these stories I'm hearing about momentum I probably build Ramos up carefully after this loss though. He's just 26 and I want him in major fights for several more years. He could also move up to LHW if Monroe dominates the match up or if Monroe goes balistic I possibly could move him up and try to let him go crazy against those LHW. Will be interesting... Man that sucks. What does failing mean in that sence? That it breaks the simulation for no reason or does it crash basically and you gained no progress at all? And was that one company save with the same database size or a smaller database? Definitly seems messed up though...

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44604" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yup, exactly.<p> </p><p> </p><p> Me too. That's one of my favorite parts of the game.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Nice! Good luck with GAMMA 100. I love to stack those milestone cards too. I might take temporary control of an org if/when their 1,000th show rolls around in the 1994 sim game. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Monroe and da Silva Ramos always seem to have very close, competitive fights in my games.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> It does seem more common to me for fighters with good stand up finishing skills to go on undefeated runs (like Sukarno pretty much every time lol), but I've also seen Foster & Fezzik finish their careers on runs with 10-15 wins and between zero and two losses, so those surprised me too. But I also usually run 10-round fights, so that might be a factor. I love how a fighter's history and experience really seems to matter. Like one can go on a bad run early and it will wreck their entire career (I've seen Monroe go on an 0-8 run before GAMMA cut him, then he retired at like 9-13 after losing a few local fights lol). Or how most prospects will drown if you throw them right into deep water, but if you give them a little time to develop they can hang with much tougher opponents even if their actual skill stats haven't changed much. And then those can build into amazing runs. Like when Toby Sorkin made it to 28-0 before finally taking a loss. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Answered it in the 'whats going on in your thread' ( <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2344312#post2344312" rel="external nofollow">http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2344312#post2344312</a> ) Think we probably drifted a bit on the purpose of this one. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44606" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nice! Good luck with GAMMA 100. I love to stack those milestone cards too. I might take temporary control of an org if/when their 1,000th show rolls around in the 1994 sim game. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Exactly! It's so much fun to set those up. I always wanna get them perfect and bring like the most impressive champs on but combine that with like storyline fights. Maybe rematches of previous great matches, trilogy fights, always want to get a legend on there as well and showcase like the 1 or 2 most promissing upandcomers. Makes the cards around the milestones always a hustle though. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44606" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Monroe and da Silva Ramos always seem to have very close, competitive fights in my games.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Man I hope it delivers. I'm so hyped for that one. Both are undefeated since I started. Monroe obviously starts with a loss though. Ramos is 8-0 all stoppages with 4 top contenders on his hit list. Monroe 7-0 also all finishes and 4 good guys in there but not as impressive a list as ramos has. Wish I could've gotten that one on 100 but it made too much sence now and I want to get the winner on that show defending it anyway. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44606" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> It does seem more common to me for fighters with good stand up finishing skills to go on undefeated runs (like Sukarno pretty much every time lol), but I've also seen Foster & Fezzik finish their careers on runs with 10-15 wins and between zero and two losses, so those surprised me too. But I also usually run 10-round fights, so that might be a factor. I love how a fighter's history and experience really seems to matter. Like one can go on a bad run early and it will wreck their entire career (I've seen Monroe go on an 0-8 run before GAMMA cut him, then he retired at like 9-13 after losing a few local fights lol). Or how most prospects will drown if you throw them right into deep water, but if you give them a little time to develop they can hang with much tougher opponents even if their actual skill stats haven't changed much. And then those can build into amazing runs. Like when Toby Sorkin made it to 28-0 before finally taking a loss. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wow didn't really knew that but it really does seem like momentum plays a big role. Marlon John for example lost like 4 in a row now. And I gave him guys like Linfield Ballard and Herringbone to get him back on track. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Sucks to hear that Sukarno always dominantes though. Isn't the case in my save and he and Lamont are like my two favorit fighters in game. Although he's kind of different in this game anyway. In WMMA 3 Sukarno threw so many crazy and creative strikes on a regular basis, isn't doing that at all in my save now sadly... <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44604" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yup. I think the default settings produce a pretty realistic rate of stoppages due to cuts. They're rare. But when I finally managed to steal Carlos Da Guia from Alpha in an old save so I could set up Matthew Dean-Da Guia, and Da Guia lost in less than a round due to a cut without much other action, I wanted to be sure that never happened again. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Damn thats a bad one. Especially because your never really rooting for Dean because he needs to grind out victories and can't really finish. Meanwhile da Guia is this super exciting stand up fighter. Even worse would be like a longtime champ who loses his title or even possibly an undefeated record in the first rnd with not even being in trouble apart from a stupid cut. I definitly fear stuff like that.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44604" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ekberg is an excellent prospect. He's 40-8 with 16 total defenses over two reigns with the Sigma title in my 1994 sim game. He's fresh back from an ~18 month hiatus after back to back losses in 2014. Now age 37, I'm hoping he'll snag another win or two before calling it a career. It's also funny though how potential stars can go down in flames. Everyone started with no pro record in this game. James Foster wound up 13-8, Hassan Fezzik went 11-7, and Sean Morrison was 8-9. LOL. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah Ekberg is amazing. In my default save now in late 2004 he beat Ivanov for the title. Build him up slowly and he absolutely teared apart elite competition the last 3 fights. Can't wait for his next fights. He's 15-0 for me now at 25 years. Love when it happens that you see somebody come up, maybe help him a bit early to get the rep up and then throw them into the cold water against elite competition and see if they are able to swim or not.</p><p> </p><p> Lamont Banner and Ramon da Silva Ramos have the same trajectory right now for me. All undefeateded champs in their respective Divisions with very impressive wins. Can't wait for my slowly but surely upcoming GAMMA 100 where I wanna go crazy with the match making. But Ramos actually has one incredible challenge before that facing Monroe at GAMMA 95. That will be one of the most anticipated fights yet. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> As far as those 3 are concerned apart from 8-9 Morrison I get their record. To me it seems like you really need to be a good stand up finisher in WMMA 5 to go on these crazy runs. Because I haven't seen one guy yet whos been able to take anybody down at will. In some fights they are able but sometimes they just get picked apart by strikers and if you have somebody like Morrison or Foster have trouble to get the take down against a powerful stand up guy that fight is a wrap. What would interest me if Morrison maybe developed like a really weak chin because he got knocked out too much or was in brutal wars. Because 8-9 seems crazy for him.</p>

The cut thing is really clever although the stoppages I feel like are rare enough that it's somewhat realistic. But I also didn't have a fight stopped yet that I would've just went nuclear for. If that happens in a real big fight I would be pretty pissed. And the Ref/Judge thing I probably copy. Don't think I had a single early stoppage yet in the fights I went click for click with (since I wouldn't notice in the quick sim fights), they are always late. But it's just insane how often grabbing the fence gets overlooked by them. Just had it for the first time that a point was deducted meanwhile there where fights where people did that like 4 times. So you populated once at the start basically... And I definitly have to check how many fighters are being generated per divison in my era. It's definitly not enough right now. Also theres kind of a weird thing where there seem to be a lot of russians for me especially the better ones being generated. Yeah that camp option is really missing. Theres one top prospect this Lars-Gunnar Ekberg guy who is at such a trash camp . Would love to get him in the newly created camp by Sukarno. They have like crazy stand up coverage and great mental and physical categories...

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44604" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've been playing a lot since buying WMMA5 on February 3. I built custom worlds for my active and sim saves this time. The sim one started in 1994 and had ALPHA, GAMMA, and SIGMA as roughly equal high level national companies. It's currently in August of 2015 (was locked on April of 2016 when I got home <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> ) and all three companies have run nearly 700 shows apiece. The active one started in 2002 with all the default data apart from my adding some custom teams, TV networks, refs, judges, fighters, and a shiny new upstart company called "UFC" for me to control. Haha. That one is currently in April of 2006.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Interesting. What kind of fighters did you add in that 2002 save? And whats the reason behind new refs and judges? Also do you populate fighters manually in your active save? I have the feeling not enough quality talent is coming through in my default save but I also don't want to overdue anything...</p><p> </p><p> And another general question for anybody who'd like to answer: Can you somehow force people out of training camps? And or to specific camps?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44604" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yup! It's definitely very fun and immersive, but man oh man does it take a long time. I spent quite a while weighing the new features in WMMA5 against my year+ worth of real life playtime on WMMA4. It was hard to let go of those saves.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Man I can barley imagine... were there any thoughts of maybe trying to replicate that save onto WMMA 5? I guess in terms of setting that up it would've taken ages though...</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44604" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>. <em>Much</em> smaller gaps in boxing. I think we'll need some of those mega weight jumpers like Roy Jones Jr/Manny Pacquiao/Floyd Mayweather before we see it in MMA. And that's a good point about division reputation as well.<p> </p><p> Argh. I returned home to find this new connection/space error wrecked another year of progress. <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It would be super interesting definitly. Although I guess Anthony Johnson would've been one. I mean he jumped from 170 to 185 to 205 and probably could've even went to HW if he put his mind to it considering how big he was. I think he was cutting down tremendously actually to make LHW toward the end of his career.</p><p> </p><p> Damn... so you sim a year in that save while your at work and sleeping? How many years are you into that one? And what setup did you start with?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels" data-cite="shawn michaels" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44604" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah the champ doesn't lose the title at all, which is not only realistic, as it is what happens irl, but also the right way, imo. Rousey is preparing to fight for a dual championship at my next ppv, while Cris Cyborg will get the interim title on Ronda's former weight class. I plan on using Ronda on both Bantam and flyweight for as long as she's dual champ (assuming she wins the bantamweight title) so I expect her to fight Cyborg soon. I'm also having Matt Mittrione fight for the interim HW title as my champ, Lesnar, popped on a drug test and I have only used him once since (even if recently) on a title fight that he won on a non regulated region. While it was a great ppv with enough bonuses to not let the negatives of using a suspended fighter hamper it, they are still pretty significant penalties, so an interim champ will help and eventually fight Lesnar in a match i don't see Lesnar winning for the unification.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hm but in the end I think I could've put either or both titles on the line even in the Catchweight bout at 128 if I wanted to. IRL that wouldn't be possible so it made it realistic for me to set it up this way to keep them both as champions.</p><p> </p><p> I could've also done it like you with Rousey that the winner gets both and defends them as long as they can but that would've basically made title fights in either division half as often as long as the double champ would reign. In the end it worked out great because O'Neill won the fight but it was actually real close and Sadorra almost took her out before Pamela won via submission. So it was a great fight, it shot O'Neill into another stratusphere while Sadorra didn't suffer too much. And a rematch could easily be set up in a few years. I would love to actually make that at GAMMA 100 if I could make it happen scheduling wise. And it was also my first womans ppv main event which made it also really cool and historic.</p><p> </p><p> But if you like the story and want to give Rousey the chance to be the P4P queen in womens MMA thats also super fun. The Lesnar story is hilarious btw and the interim title is very needed there if you ask me. If it wouldn't be Lesnar I would've just stripped him though. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44604" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Iirc it's in your user preferences. But I'm at work right now so I can't check to confirm. Yeah, that's totally understandable. It's a fine line between letting the experience play out on its own and abusing the power of the editor and a save/reload system. That's the primary reason I like to run two universes. One I simply observe and let sim at night and while I'm away, and one where I create individual super fighters, write their background stories, control their careers as best I can, and basically play in god mode to shape the universe however I want.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah it's in user preferences. But I think I won't use it. I'd probably abuse it again. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Thats super interesting. It probably makes it super fun if you take the time to write profiles up as you go along in your career. I don't think I have the stamina though. I can't get to the next PPV and the next exciting fights fast enough. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Also playing with GAMMA, getting every single good fighter + some cans and adding every womans division it kind of takes long enough anyway...</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="xamdam" data-cite="xamdam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44604" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In MMA, maybe because the sport is so young, it is indeed quite a rare occurrence. But in boxing it's the norm for fighters to move up weight classes and abandon their former titles as their careers progress. Just a natural result of it being harder to cut as much weight as we age. I suspect we'll see more of that in MMA as more high-level athletes enter the big leagues at young ages and go on to have long careers. Not a big deal, just a little thing that doesn't quite fit my desired narrative. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> True in boxing the really talented fighters always go up several weight classes along the way. But they also have smaller gaps between them. And I'm not an expert but it seems like in MMA the smaller weight classes are kind of more accepted, have a better reputation and you can make similar money. In the UFC the only weight class that seemingly has a sizeable reputation disadvantage are the male flyweights and I'm not quite sure if thats because of their size or the lack of talent/personalities. Demetrious dominated that division for so long and people felt there weren't worthy contenders for him. And I would argue if he had a fun and apealing personality and could've gotton more fans behind him and his run, I think the division possibly could've been in as decent shape as the rest. But who knows...</p>

At least it's not like a superstar and it's "just" Osmosis Benn, although he did quite well. Don't think with the fights he lost that he could get the MW crown but I liked his place and he was kind of a dark horse contender. How do you set that up anyway in WMMA 5 that the automatic save isn't happening? Didn't see the option so I rolled with the punches so far. But I actually kind of liked it. I "rerolled the dice" all the time in my two WMMA 3 main saves and it kind of took away from the whole experience I feel like. Love to have that maybe if theres an outrages thing happening... like a hiatus I desperately don't want to happen. But Idk maybe I would abuse it again and it's better to just keep it like it is. Well but who would vacate a titel on their own? I mean in situations like that in real life the organisation has to pull the trigger on that as well I feel like. I guess in a situation where the fighter comes to you that he wants to move up and you give him the option to vacate and move up or stay that would be cool. To kind of give him the chance to make the move but I mean several steps along the way aren't in the game.

What the minimum is a year and it could be worse?! Wow... that sucks. :/ Alright so a little update here. I had the match already. I basically went for a Catchweight fight which for some reason was at 128 lbs. Couldn't choose the weight myself but I was happy with it. And like KholDrum said I could've had both titels on the line but I went for a non-title fight like I planned. Was really fun and worked very well.