A Brief History of Professional Wrestling

[mrnoun]

Prior to the 20th century, wrestling as we know it did not exist. Competitive grappling in the form of Olympic-style Greco-Roman wrestling, judo, etc., and shoot-style touring carnival wrestlers ruled the day, but were primarily seen as a sideshow, at best supporting more important aspects: the other Olympic events, or the other carnival acts. However, as the 19th century drew to a close, brothers Gene and Asa Montgomery were in the process of restructuring their carnival to make the wrestling match the highlight. Only time would tell how this would affect the world... [B]-- A Brief History of Professional Wrestling --[/B] (A blank database diary) The concept: clear a database of all promotions, workers, etc. Add in one promotion, two workers (the Montgomery brothers), and a bunch of future promotions. Set the starting date to January, 1901. Play unemployed, and watch what happens. The diary will take the format of a simple historical timeline, listing important historical events, title changes, and the like. Particularly interesting bits may receive additional commentary. For the early years, most workers with gimmicky names (El Generico #9, The Slayer, etc) have received names randomly generated by [url]http://www.kleimo.com/random/name.cfm[/url] . At this time, the game has been simmed up through July, 1914, and the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand of Austria. Expect the first update soon.

[PeterHilton]

Interesting. I'm intrigued to see this concept done as adiary.

[mrnoun]

[B]Part One: Montgomeries Ascendant[/B] [B]-Approx. 700 BC: [/B]Organized competitive wrestling is invented in ancient Greece. [B]-1807 AD: [/B]Future president Millard Fillmore wins an amateur wrestling match. Future promotions would trace their title lineages back to this moment. [B]-Approx. 1870-1900: [/B]Competitive wrestling grows in popularity at carnivals. [B]-June 7, 1888:[/B] Gene and Asa Montgomery found the Montgomery Brothers Travelling Carnival. [B]-Approx. 1890-1900: [/B]Growing popularity of the MBC makes the Montgomery brothers moderately wealthy. [B]-June, 1901: [/B]Gene Montgomery meets Duane Rush, a small-time Canadian carny wrestler. Rush convinces Montgomery that an entirely wrestling-oriented show could be profitable. [B]-February, 1902: [/B]MBC has its debut wrestling card, with Franklin Richardson defeating Howard Randall in the main event. Richardson is hereafter billed as "World Heavyweight Champion". On the undercard, Duane Rush defeats Joel Goodlooks to become the first Middleweight Champion. [B]-April, 1902: [/B]Neil Hupp, a former carny wrestler himself, defeats Rush for the Middleweight title. [B]-December, 1902:[/B] Franklin Richardson successfully defends his Heavyweight championship against "Gentleman" Glenn Clark, a former amateur boxer, in what would be widely considered the best match of the year. [B]-August, 1903: [/B]Richardson and Clark meet in a rematch. Richardson retains, and the match is again the best of the year. [B]-April, 1904:[/B] Clark finally beats Richardson, ending Richardson's long title reign. Richardson had made 25 successful defenses. [B]-May, 1904:[/B] Clark and Richardson go to a draw, with Clark as champion retaining the belt. It is considered the best of the Clark-Richardson match series, and the match of the year. [B]-June, 1904: [/B]19-year-old Clyde Foley defeats Clark to become the youngest Heavyweight Champ ever. [B]-June, 1905: [/B]Norman Gonzales defeats Neil Hupp for the Middleweight Championship. Hupp had recorded 28 defenses in over three years as champ. At the same show, heavyweight champ Clyde Foley defeats former champ Franklin Richardson to retain the title in what would be considered the match of the year. This show marks the turning point where the struggling wrestling industry starts recovering. [B]-August, 1906: [/B]Franklin Richardson wins his second World Heavyweight title, defeating Clyde Foley. [B]-October, 1906: [/B]A major argument erupts between Gene and Asa Montgomery, regarding the direction of the product. Gene fired several regular carnival performers without consulting Asa, with the intention of restructuring the show to 100% wrestling, rather than being a carnival with wrestling as the main attraction. The two would repeat the argument several times in the coming months. [B]-November, 1906: [/B]A professional wrestling card is broadcast via radio for the first time. The first radio match features "Big" Brett Sheridan drawing with MBC mainstay Duane Rush. [B]-March, 1907: [/B]The conflict between the Montgomery brothers reaches its breaking point, as the two cannot come to an agreement over the fate of the carnival. The parting is fairly amicable, however, as Gene agrees to stay in their native Georgia region, while Asa moves on to Texas, where his wife's family lives. Gene renames the remnants of the old carnival "Dixie Pro Wrestling". Asa, finding himself forced to compete in an industry he never really cared for, founds "Texas Brand Wrestling". And thus arose the first territories. [I]Notes:[/I] -Duane Rush was chosen to be the one to convince Gene Montgomery to try a wrestling product because of his A* charisma and his Driven Politician personality. -Wrestlers of the Year, 1902-1906: 1902 Glenn Clark 1903 Franklin Richardson 1904 Clyde Foley 1905 Clyde Foley 1906 Franklin Richardson Clark, Foley and Richardson really dominated the industry in the early days. This looked terrible on the first try. Edited for formatting.

[BIGJOSH]

This is interesting...are current workers going to come into play in this diary?

[mrnoun]

[B]Birth of the Territories (pt 1)[/B] (with apologies to D. Boone's Ghost) [B] --1907--[/B] [B]-Early 1907:[/B] Gene's first act after the split was to quietly rename the World Middleweight title, now calling it the Georgia title. This allowed him more leeway in terms of pitting larger wrestlers against smaller ones, giving the fans someone to root for. This was the first small step towards the era of faces and heels. [B]-May, 1907: [/B]Tim Stiller defeats Norman Gonzales to become the first man to win the DPW Georgia title since its name change. [B]-June, 1907: [/B]Texas Brand Wrestling makes its debut. Asa Montgomery proved that while he knew little about wrestling, his long experience in the carny business left him with a good grasp of crowds. On the undercard, Jeffery Sanders defeated Danny Tundra for the TBW Texas championship. While in the main event, the mysterious "Mr. Pain," actually amateur-trained wrestler Carlton Roth under a mask, became both the first TBW World champion, and the first masked wrestler. [B]-September, 1907: [/B]Neil Hupp makes Tim Stiller's reign a short one, beating him for the DPW Georgia championship. It would be Hupp's second reign, the first having lasted over two years. Just two weeks later, the TBW Texas title also changes hands, with Bernard Westybrook defeating Jeffery Sanders. [B]--1908--[/B] [B]-January, 1908:[/B] Jeffery Sanders regains the Texas title from Bernard Westybrook. [B]-February, 1908: [/B]At the sold-out Stanley Hall, Clyde Foley defeats Franklin Richardson for the DPW World Heavyweight title. It marks Foley's second reign. Former Olympic weight-lifter Darryl Brook was in attendance for the show, and shortly thereafter began looking for investors. [B]-April, 1908: [/B]Brook's pet project, Pro Wrestling from Virginia, takes off in epic fashion, with old rivals Franklin Richardson and Glenn Clark facing off in an exhibition match. Brook himself defeats former DPW champ Clyde Foley for the PWV world title, and jujutsu expert Takesi Mori beats Clayton Guilbert to become PWV Virginia champion. [B]-May, 1908: [/B]Brook continues to flash the cash, scoring another huge PR victory: TBW World champ Carlton "Mr. Pain" Roth agrees to work a few shows in Virginia. He debuts against former two-time DPW World champ Franklin Richardson, losing a tough match. [B]-October, 1908: [/B]Dan Hesketh ends Mr. Pain's TBW championship run. [B]-December, 1908: [/B]Clayton Guilbert defeats Takesi Mori for the PWV Virginia championship. [B]--1909--[/B] [B]-February, 1909:[/B] Franklin Richardson wins his third DPW World Heavyweight title, beating Clyde Foley one year to the day after Foley's title win. [B]-March, 1909: [/B]Darryl Brook's long PWV World title reign ends, as Clyde Foley defeats him. Foley becomes the first man to win world titles with two different promotions. [B]-May, 1909:[/B] Franklin Richardson and Clyde Foley put on a memorable show in front of a sell-out crowd in Ohio, with Richardson retaining his DPW championship. [B]-June, 1909: [/B]Takesi Mori defeats Jeffery Sanders for the TBW Texas title; Manuel Deeley beats Neil Hupp for the DPW Georgia title. While Mori had been a longtime star, this marked Deeley's first win in nearly a year. [B]-July, 1909: [/B]Deeley resumes his losing ways, as Hupp regains the belt in a rematch. [B]-October, 1909: [/B]Tim Stiller defeats Clayton Guilbert for the PWV Virginia title. [B]--1910--[/B] [B]-January, 1910: [/B]Dan Hesketh and Christian Ionita square off in what historians would call the greatest match of the era. Hesketh wins by submission in 57 minutes to retain the TBW World title. Sadly, with wrestling's popularity in decline, few would witness the match. On the other hand, this would mark the second straight year a truly memorable match took place in Ohio. [B]-April, 1910: [/B]Clyde Foley defeats Franklin Richardson for the DPW World title, unifying it with the PWV World title. [B]-June, 1910: [/B]Howard Randall defeats Neil Hupp for the DPW Georgia title. [B]-December, 1910: [/B]Christian Ionita defeats Dan Hesketh for the TBW World title. [B]--1911--[/B] [B]-January, 1911:[/B] In a desperate attempt to resuscitate the struggling wrestling industry, Asa Montgomery invents "tag team wrestling". The first ever tag match sees Charles Blanchard and Benjamin Walker defeat Bernard Westybrook and Raymond Levesque. [B]-February, 1911:[/B] Ohio businessman Ted Bainbridge, having seen the local success of wrestling in the Ohio region, opens Great Lakes Grappling. On their first card, Carl Sapir defeats Raymond Levesque for the GLG Ohio title, while Tim Stiller becomes the first GLG World champion after beating Neil Hupp. [B]-March, 1911: [/B]The danger of cross-promotional matches rears its head, as GLG champ Tim Stiller is beaten by Tamasaburo Ikeda... for the PWV Virginia title, on a PWV show. GLG continues to promote Stiller as World champ. [B]-May, 1911: [/B]Norman Gonzales defeats Howard Randall for the DPW Georgia title, his second reign. [B]-June, 1911[/B]: Franklin Richardson defeats Clyde Foley for the DPW World title, again breaking up the DPW-PWV titles. Later the same month, insult would be added to injury for Foley, as he'd also drop the PWV belt to Arnold Young. Ironically, the 40-year-old Young was at the time the oldest World champ ever. [B]-July, 1911:[/B] Eddie Anderson defeats Takesi Mori for the TBW Texas title. [B]-August, 1911: [/B]Howard Randall defeats Tim Stiller for the GLG World title. [I]Notes:[/I] -This diary actually has a pretty heavy amount of editing going on behind the scenes. Particularly, I've done a lot of tinkering with the Product settings of the promotions, as wrestling changes over the years. A good example is the January, 1911 tag match, which really was the first ever tag match; I'd waited until the industry bottomed out, then bumped up the Product setting for 2 on 2 matches to 5%. -Dan Hesketh and Christian Ionita's January, 1910 match was the first ever C- match. I'm splitting BOTT into two parts, because with the number of promotions increasing so quickly, it was getting really long.

[mrnoun]

[QUOTE=BIGJOSH;251202]This is interesting...are current workers going to come into play in this diary?[/QUOTE] I'd thought about that, but decided that entirely random workers would be more interesting. I'd like to see if the engine is capable of randomly generating a Ric Flair-style five star match machine.

[mrnoun]

[B]Birth of the Territories (cont)[/B] [B]--1912--[/B] [B]-February, 1912:[/B] Local businessman Marc Windham opens Northeast Wrestling, based in New Jersey. The first show features Franklin RIchardson becoming NEW World champ, and Danny St. Hubbins New Jersey champ. This marks Richardson's fifth world title, and unifies the NEW title with the DPW title before the company has even finished its first show. [B]-March, 1912:[/B] Arnold Young becomes the highest-paid competitor in history, receiving $1,302 for a victory over Clyde Foley in PWV. [B]-May, 1912:[/B] Tag wrestling starts to catch on, as NEW declares Brett Sheridan and Takeshi Mori the first World Tag champs. [B]-June, 1912:[/B] Tamasaburo Ikeda and Clayton Guilbert become the DPW World Tag champs. At the same show, Clyde Foley regains the DPW title from Franklin Richardson. [B]-October, 1912:[/B] Danny St. Hubbins beats Eddie Anderson for the TBW Texas title. This, oddly enough, unifies the Texas and New Jersey championships. [B]-November, 1912:[/B] Brett Sheridan defeats Norman Gonzales for the DPW Georgia title. [B]--1913--[/B] [B]-January, 1913:[/B] Dan Hesketh beats Tamasaburo Ikeda for the PWV Virginia title [B]-February, 1913:[/B] West Coast Wrestling, businessman Patrick Dahl's promotion, debuts with Patrick's brother Raymond Dahl winning the WCW Oregon title, and Glenn Clark winning the WCW World title. Norman McMahon and Douglas Mustafa become National tag champs. [B]-April, 1913: [/B]Takesi Mori defeats Christian Ionita for the TBW World title. Ionita had held it since December of 1910, spanning 27 defenses. [B]-May, 1913: [/B]Tim Stiller and Howard Randall defeat Tamasaburo Ikeda and Clayton Guilbert for the DPW National Tag titles. On the same show, Glenn Clark defeats Clyde Foley for the DPW World title, unifying it with the WCW World title. [B]-June, 1913: [/B]Norman Gonzales defeats Danny St. Hubbins for the NEW New Jersey title. [B]-August, 1913: [/B]Raymond Levesque defeats Carl Sapir for the GLG Ohio title. [B]-September, 1913: [/B]Norman Gonzales defeats Brett Sheridan for the DPW Georgia title. Elsewhere, Clyde Foley beats Arnold Young for the PWV World title, his 6th world title reign. [B]-October, 1913: [/B]Foley beats Howard Randall for the GLG World title, marking his second unified world title run. [B]--1914--[/B] [B]-April, 1914: [/B]Clyde Foley defeats Glenn Clark for the DPW World title, unifying it with the GLG and PWV World titles. [B]-May, 1914:[/B] NEW Tag champ Brett Sheridan is hospitalized after an overdose. Sheridan and partner Takesi Mori would be stripped of the titles. Mori would go on to beat Norman Gonzales for the NEW New Jersey championship, effectively ending the partnership. [B]-June, 1914: [/B]Roy Williams beats Raymond Levesque for the GLG Ohio championship. Later in the month, Dan Hesketh and Mr. Pain would win the vacant NEW Tag titles. [B]-July, 1914: [/B]Archduke Ferdinand of the Austro-Hungarian Empire is assassinated, sparking World War I. [I]Notes:[/I] -Even in an alternate universe, WCW puts their world title on a guy who hasn't been relevant in close to a decade. Glenn Clark's last title win before his 1913 title run with WCW had been in 1904. -Sheridan's overdose was the first health issue for any major character in the game. Wrestlers of the Year, BOTT Edition: 1907: Clyde Foley 1908: Clyde Foley 1909: Clyde Foley 1910: Christian Ionita 1911: Clyde Foley 1912: Clyde Foley 1913: Clyde Foley Anyone else sense a pattern emerging?

[mrnoun]

[B]The World, July 1914[/B] US Economy: F+, rising US Industry: F+, falling [B] Promotions by prestige:[/B] TBW, D PWV, D- DPW, E+ GLG, E NEW, F+ WCW, F+ [B] Current World Champs:[/B] TBW: Takesi Mori PWV: Clyde Foley DPW: Clyde Foley GLG: Clyde Foley NEW: Franklin Richardson WCW: "Gentleman" Glenn Clark I may have to start calling him "Nature Boy" Clyde Foley. [B]Top 10 Wrestlers of the Shoot Era:[/B] 1. Clyde Foley, 154 victories 2. Clayton Guilbert, 153 victories 3. Franklin Richardson, 151 victories 4. Neil Hupp, 148 victories 5. Glenn Clark, 144 victories 6. Norman Gonzales, 116 victories 7. Tamasaburo Ikeda, 114 victories 8. Arnold Young, 113 victories 9. Carl Sapir, 110 victories 10. Mr. Pain, 108 victories [B]Significant Amateurs of the Shoot Era[/B] By amateurs, I mean unemployed folks working Indy shows. Randy Huge, UK, 22-0 Sean Robinson, Canada, 37-0 Raul Rodriguez, Mexico, 20-2 Jan Ionescu, Europe, 25-4 [B]Major Characters, 1901-1914[/B] In alphabetical order: [B]Arnold Young.[/B] Former professional fighter, turned pro wrestler in 1907. 43 years old, Young is a former PWV world champ. He is best known for his boxing skills. [B]Asa Montgomery.[/B] Gene's brother, and founder of TBW. The 53 year old Asa invented tag team wrestling. He treats his undercard workers well, and has inspired loyalty in several of them. [B]"Big" Brett Sheridan.[/B] 30-year-old Canadian, turned pro in 1902. Former DPW Georgia and NEW Tag Team champ. Currently recovering from an overdose. His punch packs a decent wallop. [B]Clayton Guilbert.[/B] 34-year-old Canadian, been a pro since 1901. Former DPW Tag champ, and PWV Virginia champ. Politics has kept him from getting many title shots, despite his gaudy win-loss record; he made an enemy of Darryl Brook early in his career. One of the longest-running veterans around; knows more than just about anyone about wrestling. [B]"Nature Boy" Clyde Foley.[/B] 29-year-old American, pro since 1902. Almost certainly the greatest wrestler of his generation, Foley is an 8-time World champ, with three different promotions, and an 8-time wrestler of the year. Well-rounded, he can both fight and grapple. [B]Dan Hesketh.[/B] 30-year-old American, pro since 1905. Former TBW Heavyweight champ, and current PWV Virginia champ and NEW Tag champ. Hesketh is a widely respected professional who is well-known for his willingness to help out behind the scenes. [B]Danny St. Hubbins.[/B] 29-year-old Canadian, pro since 1904. Former NEW New Jersey champ, current TBW Texas champ. A quality mat wrestler in top physical condition, Danny rarely gets opportunities to show it because no one likes him. [B]Darryl Brook.[/B] 39-year-old Canadian, former Olympic-caliber weightlifter, pro since 1907. He owns PWV, and held their World title at one point. Extremely popular in his native Canada. Darryl is known for being somewhat arbitrary, and as a result makes both friends and enemies easily. [B]Duane Rush.[/B] 32-year-old Canadian, pro since 1901. Former DPW Georgia champ. While Duane was instrumental in inventing the wrestling promotion, he hasn't benefitted from it as much as he'd like. He strongly resents the success of Neil Hupp, the man who beat him for the belt and sent him tumbling to obscurity. [B]"Little" Franklin Richardson.[/B] 30-year-old American, pro since 1901. The diminutive, quick Richardson is a 5-time World Champ and two-time Wrestler of the Year. A genuinely nice guy with friends all over the business, Franklin uses quickness and intelligence to beat larger opponents. [B]Gene Montgomery.[/B] Gene is widely recognized as the father of professional wrestling. At 57, he's still going strong, running his DPW promotion. Gene has a knack for the wrestling industry that his brother Asa lacks. [B]"Gentleman" Glenn Clark.[/B] 29-year-old American, turned pro in 1902. After toiling in obscurity for nearly a decade, Glenn suddenly emerged as a hot property again. Now a three-time world champ, Clark hopes to parlay his submission skills and his popularity in the northeast into a run at the top of the industry. [B]"Crazy" Howard Randall.[/B] 31-year-old American, turned pro in 1901. Former GLG World champ, and DPW Georgia and Tag champ. Fought his way up from the slums on the strength of sheer willingness to do anything to win. Is currently struggling through a rough patch, worried about his good friend Brett Sheridan's health. [B]Marc Windham.[/B] 31-year-old New Jersey based businessman. Owns NEW. Relatively well-respected for running a solid company, despite knowing little about wrestling. [B]Carlton "Mr. Pain" Roth.[/B] 27-year-old American, turned pro in 1907. Former TBW World champ and current NEW Tag champ. Best known for being the first masked wrestler. A quality submission wrestler in his own right, though. Has yet to wrestle a match without his mask. [B]Neil Hupp.[/B] 30-year-old American, turned pro in 1902. Three-time DPW Georgia champ, but has never quite made it to the next level. A decent mat wrestler who nonetheless relies primarily on his excellent conditioning to carry himself to victory. Enjoys practical jokes a little too much, and makes enemies as a result. [B]Norman McMahon.[/B] 26-year-old American, turned pro in 1905. Current WCW Tag champ. Let's hope he doesn't have a grandson named Vince. [B]Patrick Dahl.[/B] 31-year-old American businessman and owner of WCW. His brother Raymond is a somewhat successful wrestler. [B]Raymond Dahl.[/B] 31-year-old American, turned pro in 1902. Current WCW Oregon champ. Not a very good wrestler, but thanks largely to his brother Patrick, he finds himself in the right place at the right time. [B]Takesi Mori.[/B] 32-year-old from Japan, turned pro in 1901. Current TBW World champ and NEW New Jersey champ, former TBW Texas, NEW Tag, and PWV Virginia champ. A skilled, respected jujutsu practicioner, in excellent physical shape. Arguably the most successful foreign wrestler in the US. [B]Tamasaburo Ikeda.[/B] 40-year-old from Japan, turned pro in 1904. Former DPW Tag champ and PWV Virginia champ. Tamasaburo was a successful tournament judo practicioner in Japan before coming to the US. He is one of the most skilled submission experts in the world, and has kept himself in good shape despite his age. [B]Ted Bainbridge.[/B] 33-year-old American who owns GLG. An Ohio businessman hoping to hit it big after seeing several memorable matches put on by other promotions. Generally regarded as not too bright. [B]Tim Stiller.[/B] 31-year-old American, turned pro in 1901. Current DPW Tag champ; former DPW Georgia, GLG World, and PWV Virginia champ. Most known, however, for losing more matches than anyone else on the planet: 182 defeats. He's a decent submission wrestler who lacks the conditioning to back it up. Next time: the World War I Era, and the first "worked" match. The business changes forever...

[EricAdams]

Just want to say this is awesome and that I'll probably have a bunch of questions for you at some point because I'll want to create a history of wrestling myself. You have a fan.

[EricAdams]

[QUOTE=EricAdams;251275]Just want to say this is awesome and that I'll probably have a bunch of questions for you at some point because I'll want to create a history of wrestling myself. You have a fan.[/QUOTE] Okay time for those questions. What was the database you had? Some match types, two workers, one fed and how many future feds spread apart by how much? Any dojos? Any debuting workers? I want to do this but I'd like to get it right the first time.

[shipshirt]

This is fantastic...I'm a huge pro wrestling history buff and even a fake history is still fascinating to me :) When you talk about the Dahl brothers was that something that was created or did you just determine two wrestlers would be "related"?

[mrnoun]

[QUOTE=EricAdams;251316]Okay time for those questions. What was the database you had? Some match types, two workers, one fed and how many future feds spread apart by how much? Any dojos? Any debuting workers? I want to do this but I'd like to get it right the first time.[/QUOTE] I started with a brand new, blank database, with the "Create Database" function. Then I made the Montgomery Brothers Carnival fed, and Gene and Asa. I imported the match types, gimmicks, storylines, angles, and tv networks from the Cornellverse. In retrospect, the tv networks were a mistake -- I should have left them out until tv was invented, then imported them. Next, I made some basic dojos, representing the various kinds of amateur fighting in existence during the time period: Greco-Roman wrestling in eastern Europe, kickboxing in western Europe, judo in Japan, amateur wrestling in north America, and so forth. I wasn't sure how the presence of dojos would affect worker generation, so I made about 11 of them. I can definitely say, high prestige dojos turn out better workers. I started making a locations file from scratch, then decided that was a waste of time and imported the Cornellverse one. I think I did tinker with the community size and income settings, though. Finally, I did a little historical research, and set up New Promotions to reflect the real historical spread of worked wrestling from the U.S. to other regions -- Britain in the late 20's, Mexico in the early 30's, mainland Europe and Japan in the late 40's. The spread from the Southeast to the rest of the US I decided to handle more organically, and simply imported new promotions when the storyline called for it. For example, when DPW's popularity spilled over into neighboring regions, it was only natural to have new promotions grow in those areas. No debuting workers or anything, I just set random generation of new workers to High. One other significant edit I had to make as I went along: the game kept insisting on making a Japanese guy owner of... I think it was GLG. Since that would be a bit too anachronistic, I edited him into an American, and gave him a random name. [QUOTE]When you talk about the Dahl brothers was that something that was created or did you just determine two wrestlers would be "related"?[/QUOTE] This was such a happy coincidence, I decided to just run with it. Patrick Dahl, the owner and booker, hired Raymond Dahl, a wrestler, then made him champ on the very first show he booked. I thought that was so neat, I went into the editor and made them blood relatives. Right now, I'm working on the best way to do World War I. All the younger Brits and Euros have to be shipped off to war, and some of them need to be injured or killed, and I need a good way to work that.

[theoutlaw321]

Love this idea. I'm reading.

[Samoa Joe ROH]

[QUOTE=mrnoun;251352] No debuting workers or anything, I just set random generation of new workers to High.[/QUOTE] How do you set it to High i was just wondering?

[G-Prime]

This looks great, I'll be following this one.

[EricAdams]

What are the chances we could see you post your database for download? :D

[Alex Gariepy]

[QUOTE=Samoa Joe ROH;251496]How do you set it to High i was just wondering?[/QUOTE] Go to 'Options' at the AM screen (with the tool shapes). Click on 'World Options.' It's the first option on top. Can set it to None, Low, Medium, and High. I always crank it up to high every game I play, although having it smaller helps those who don't NEED more wrestlers cluttering the database. A few generated wrestlers appear every two months. How come I picture people with giant handlebar mustaches when I think of 1914 wrestling? :p

[That Crazy Guy]

This is absolutely amazing. Hopefully you go extremely far with this, so we can see how everything develops perfectly. Clyde Foley is a legend. :D

[shipshirt]

[QUOTE=mrnoun;251352] This was such a happy coincidence, I decided to just run with it. Patrick Dahl, the owner and booker, hired Raymond Dahl, a wrestler, then made him champ on the very first show he booked. I thought that was so neat, I went into the editor and made them blood relatives.[/QUOTE] Stuff like that is why I love this game. Did you randomly name those two with that generator?

[shipshirt]

BTW, I second posting your starting database for download!! I'm trying to create one now based on the info you gave and I don't think I got it right! lol

[Astil]

This is amazing. I tried doing this once (JOPF) but failed, and now it collects dust on lie page 20 (out of 7 :P). I wish you luck and patience :).

[Ping von Erich]

I'd kill to have this for download, I bet Bob Inc would host for you.

[WrestleManiac]

I tried exactly the same thing. I did every thing you say you did, but with my database my new promotions never get a new owner and therefore never hire a booker who therefore never hires any workers which is why therefore they never put on any shows. Did you have to put in owners for your future promotions? or am I missing something?

[mrnoun]

It took 2-3 years for a couple of these promotions to get owners. It may have just been luck that I happened to generate a higher than normal number of guys with decent Business stats. One trick you may try is to set up a few "New Workers" with decent business/booking stats, just in case you don't generate enough natural owners. I did edit one owner, when the company ended up with a Japanese owner. I thought that was inappropriate for the time period, and made him American. [QUOTE]Stuff like that is why I love this game. Did you randomly name those two with that generator?[/QUOTE] No, the game generated them. It was just so perfect, I couldn't resist. I think I've figured out this WWI thing, and I've got a couple days off, so let's resume. [B]The War to End All Wars, pt I[/B] [B]-August, 1914: [/B] Christian Ionita defeats Danny St. Hubbins for the TBW Texas title. [B]-September, 1914: [/B] Former TBW Texas champ, and 1909 Young Wrestler of the Year Eddie Anderson is drafted. Howard randall defeats Norman Gonzales for the DPW Georgia title. Glenn Clark defeats Clyde Foley for the DPW World title. [B]-October, 1914: [/B] Former TBW World Heavyweight champ, current TBW Texas champ and 1910 Wrestler of the year, Christian Ionita is drafted. Dan Hesketh beats Jeffery Sanders for the now vacant Texas title. [B] -November, 1914: [/B] Eddie Anderson seriously wounded by artillery fire. [B]-December, 1914: [/B] Randy Huge apparently invents steroids, then gets caught taking them. 1914 Wrestler of the Year: Christian Ionita. 1914 Match of the Year: Takesi Mori d. Christian Ionita, TBW [I]Notes:[/I] I've found that "On Hiatus" works really well for my purposes, as long as I also edit anyone who's drafted to be unemployed. Unfortunately, workers who are "On Hiatus" but still employed will still wrestle. An interesting note: workers On Hiatus only come back on the third Thursday of the month. I'm sure someone will find a way to use that to their advantage. We're getting closer and closer to the era of kayfabe. Once American workers start getting shipped over to Europe to fight, promoters will find themselves scraping the bottom of the barrel for talent, and then they'll have to start getting creative to keep the crowds around... I'm simming 1915 right now. Expect it later this evening.

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[B]The War to End All Wars, pt 2[/B] [B]-March, 1915: [/B] Glenn Clark defeats Franklin Richardson for the NEW World title. This temporarily unifies the DPW, NEW, and WCW titles. [B]-May, 1915: [/B]Neil Hupp defeats Dan Hesketh for the PWV VIrginia title. Glen Simmons and Jim Gallagher defeat Norman McMahon and Douglas Mustafa for the WCW Tag titles. [B]-July, 1915: [/B]Eddie Anderson, despite his war injuries, attempts a comeback with WCW. He defeats Glen Simmons in his return match. [B]-August, 1915:[/B] GLG Ohio champion Roy Williams drafted. Lewis Crane defeats Clayton Guilbert for the vacant belt. Leo Morgan defeats Glenn Clark for the DPW World title, the first new wrestler to win that title since Clyde Foley in 1904. [B] -September, 1915: [/B]Roy Williams killed in action in the Second Battle of Artois. Glen Simmons beats Raymond Dahl for the WCW Oregon title. Leo Morgan beats Glenn Clark for the WCW World title, unifying it with the DPW World title. Jim Flanders defeats Takesi Mori for the TBW World title. [B]-October, 1915: [/B]GLG renames the Ohio title the Ohio Memorial title. [B] -November, 1915:[/B] Tragedy strikes again, as former TBW World champ Christian Ionita is killed in action during the battle of Ovche Pole. Norman Gonzales and Neil Hupp win the DPW Tag titles from Tim Stiller and Howard Randall. Wrestler of the Year: Glenn Clark Match of the Year: Glenn Clark d. Franklin Richardson, DPW February [I]Notes:[/I] This was rather a down year for wrestling, with two great workers getting killed in the War, and not too many really good matches. I don't know what Clyde Foley's problem is, letting some punk like Clark win WotY. Maybe he's getting old.