Hive Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I'm looking to start up a new MP game using my War of The Worlds september 1995 mod. I have two ideas for a game and I'll be up for either one of them, depending on interest: Gametype 1 A 4-player game in USA and Japan featuring WWF, WCW NJPW and AJPW. I'd like to play as NJPW in this, as I've never played in Japan before and would like to try it out. And I feel it could be interesting to see two major rivalries play out in each of the world's two biggest wrestling countries. Gametype 2 A 3-player game in USA featuring WWF, WCW and TNA. TNA would replace USWA and all workers for the three promotions would be released (except for the owners Vince McMahon, Ted Turner and Jeff Jarrett) and a pre-game draft would be held (I suggest a serpentine draft with the following order: WWF, WCW, TNA). I'd like to play TNA in this, seeing it as an exciting prospect to start something from scratch. I imagine doing a mini-diary of sorts so that we can follow what's going on in each others' promotions, but I don't expect people to spend countless hours making diary entries. I'm in Europe myself but am willing to play with anyone anywhere, as long as they are dedicated. Anyone up for either of these scenarios? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKnifed72 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 WWF 1995 Ric Flair Hulk Hogan Big Show Roddy Piper Jake Roberts Arn Anderson Lex Luger Warrior Mick Foley Psycho Sid William Regal HHH Edge Jim Duggan Yokozuna Tazz Raven The Iron Sheik Kevin Sullivan Christopher Daniels Sgt. Slaughter Sandman Spike Dudley Non-Wrestlers: Vince McMahon Gary Hart Joey Styles Ted Dibiase Earl Hebner Sunny Harley Race Mark Curtis Woman (Nancy Sullivan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Savant Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 American Wrestling Association: Active Roster: Curt Hennig Bret Hart Terry Funk Owen Hart Scott Steiner Rick Steiner Scott Hall Terry Gordy Rey Misterio Jr. Scott "Bam Bam" Bigelow "The Ultimo Dragon" Yoshihiro Asai Ron Simmons Carlos Konnan "Hardjaw" D. John Finlay Rob Van Dam "The American Nightmare" Dustin Rhodes Perry Saturn Chavo Guerrero II Juventud Guerrera "The Silver King" Cesar Barron Dionicio "Psicosis" Torres Masato Tanaka Stephen Richards Solofa Fatu Lua Samula Anoa'i Lance Storm Non Wrestling Staff: Verne Gagne Dusty Rhodes Jim Cornette Lord Alfred Hayes Nick Patrick Gene Okerlund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvdjrv2002 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Id be up for it also. I like the draft idea and think it would be fun do. With there being four now maybe we could do a 4 player swap uswa with like you said and ecw as the fourth maybe. Just another idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Savant Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Personally, I don't care if the companies are actual contemporaries or not. I'm totally cool with ECW or the AWA or Cyborg Wrestling 9000. But: What about products? Can we choose our own product or does it need to be similar to the fed we get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Cool, I didn't expect the game to get filled so soon. There's a slight problem though, as we are actually not 4, but 5 - as Big Al signed up before anyone else, though by PM. And I'm afraid no magic can allow us to make TEW a 5-player game... so what to do; first comes first serve - or see who's the most interested and decide from that...? Either way, there seem to be the most interest in game version #2, which is fine by me. And I'd be fine with bumping up ECW as the fourth brand if anyone should be up for that, though I must warn that their hardcore cult product prevents them from getting as good TV deals as the rest... so it's more of a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Personally, I don't care if the companies are actual contemporaries or not. I'm totally cool with ECW or the AWA or Cyborg Wrestling 9000. But: What about products? Can we choose our own product or does it need to be similar to the fed we get? I'd prefer if we work within the product boundries of the game, eg. only change it as much as the owner/pre-defined settings allows us. Otherwise, I'm afraid it would be too easy to create an uber-promotion. Now that you mention it, I think perhaps AWA could be a great choice for a fourth company, as they'd likely be more viable than ECW and have that grand aura to them (also, they are actually already in my mod as an inactive promotion). But I'd personally prefer if it's a real company we bring in, as I think the draft thing provides us with more than enough fantasy. As I mentioned previously I myself would like to try out TNA, if that's okay with people? About the draft itself, I was thinking maybe we should draft, say, 30 workers each before starting the game? That way, we'd get a good basis without emptying the worker pool completely for talent. I also think we should draft people who are only either without contract or on a non-written contract to avoid seeing promotions like NJPW, AJPW and CMLL completely torn apart. Or we could put a limit on it and say we could draft maybe 2 workers on written contracts each (not including the WCW and WWF workers who will, as mentioned, all be free). Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Face Shawn Miichaels, Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Brian Pillman, Jushin Liger, Sabu, Tiger Mask Satoru Sayama Al Snow, Ray Traylor Heels Mark Calloway, Steve Austin, Vader, Jerry Lawler, Bob Backlund, John Tenta, Tonga, Marc Mero, Non Wrestkers Bobby Heenan, Gorilla Monsoon, Jimmy Hart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Yep I am keen to have a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 I think drafting 30 is a good number, I am keen to have a go at this game, I think if we are having 4 or possibly 5, why not the 2 japanese feds and 3 usa ones. Though Hives you started the thread I am happy for you to make a decision and follow on from that. I will just mention some of what I suggested to you earlier so others can see. 1 possibly put limitations on roster size 2 possibly putting limitations on number of young wrestlers in each roster 3 possibly having a limit to new wrestlers signed each month These of course are only suggestions but I think they will help to keep good talent available to bring in on short term contracts for all. It's not possible to have 5 players in a single game, unfortunately, 4 is max. And if we're doing a draft, I think it would be most fun if we're all in the same country. There should be enough talent in USA for 4 big promotions, I'd say. It could probably be a good idea with some basic rules to prevent one promotion from hording all young workers and just sticking them in development. I also imagine giving all 4 promotions 1 A TV show from the start, to make things a bit even on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Assuming you guys are using WWF, WCW, TNA, and 1 other promotion then use all the workers currently employed by these promotions and anyone who is not on a written deal at the time. The other criteria should be they HAVE to be active in the USA. WCW by itself had enough wrestlers at this time to employ all 4 companies alone. Ok maybe I am stretching that a bit. I will be curious to see this draft. You guys should do a diary for this game. Seems like it would be interesting enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 How stupid am I suggesting 5, believe me I am smarter than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Assuming you guys are using WWF, WCW, TNA, and 1 other promotion then use all the workers currently employed by these promotions and anyone who is not on a written deal at the time. The other criteria should be they HAVE to be active in the USA. Good idea to have being active in USA as a requirement as well. WCW by itself had enough wrestlers at this time to employ all 4 companies alone. Ok maybe I am stretching that a bit. Yeah I think WCW and WWF combined has something in the region of 150 workers from the start of the game... so combined with the unemployed and PPA-contracted workers in USA, it shouldn't be a huge problem to fill 4 promotions with quality workers. I will be curious to see this draft. You guys should do a diary for this game. Seems like it would be interesting enough. Yes I really hope people will be up for writing down their shows and stuff in a diary. As previously mentioned, it won't have to be something heavy; just enough to make the other players (and anyone else interested) able to follow the promotion. Here's what I'm thinking so far, but I'm open for change: Promotions: WWF, WCW, AWA, TNA (draft will be serpentine and in that order) TV-shows: WWF Monday Night Raw, WCW Monday Nitro, AWA All-Star Wrestling, TNA Impact! Owners (and the only contracted worker pre-draft): Vince McMahon (WWF), Ted Turner (WCW), Verne Gagne (AWA), Jeff Jarrett (TNA) Rules: 1. Only workers who are set to work in USA and are NOT on a written contract can be drafted. 2. 30 workers per promotion is to be drafted in a serpentine draft. The draft includes not only active wrestlers but staff members as well. 3. After the draft, only 1 worker under 22 may be signed to a written contract per promotion per month (PPA contracts are unrestricted). 4. Permission must be given to use a worker name exclusive to another promotion (so if eg. AWA drafts The Undertaker, the person playing WWF must agree to them using that name or a new name must be chosen). 5. Real world and grand man avatars are allowed. Current real world avatars in my mod: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura, Jim Crockett Jr., Sylvester Stallone. I'm open to excluding the real world avatars if people would prefer that we all use the same avatar. Or alternatively add someone not already included, if it's someone who makes a bit sense. 6. Everyone should agree to participate in at least a basic diary (won't have to be too time-consuming and complex). 7. Anything else...? Should I make promotion popularity and prestige the same for all 4 or leave it as is, with WWF and WCW roughly being equal and AWA and TNA roughly being equal...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I don't mind what you decide about prestige and popularity. After the draft will a federation with little money struggle short term if they sign a number of big stars who therefore have a large contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I think you should leave prestige and popularity as is. The money should be enough for all the promotions to be ok for awhile. WWF and WCW $ should be left as is but TNA and AWA should have enough to survive awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Savant Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I just downloaded the WotW mod but couldn't find AWA... le sad. Anyhoo if I make the game I'd like to play as them if that's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 I just downloaded the WotW mod but couldn't find AWA... le sad. Anyhoo if I make the game I'd like to play as them if that's possible. I actually had AWA in my mod for TEW2008, but deleted them for this version (I had them as a company set to re-emerge sometime in the future). But I'm currently adding titles and title lineage for them, which will make it into the next release of the mod (which I hope to release over the weekend). I probably won't add AWA as a promotion to the default version of the mod, but will add them in the modified drafted version of the mod which we are to play. So you can definately have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Savant Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Awesome! What's the product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Awesome! What's the product? Roughly the same as that of USWA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Savant Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Oh yeah awesome. I'll happily take that product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Oh yeah awesome. I'll happily take that product. Cool. Then we have you in AWA and me in TNA. Big Al as #1 respondant and JackKnifed72 as #2 respondant will then get to select between WWF and WCW. If either one fails to select within 24 hours, rvdjrv2002 will as #4 respondant be given the spot. I think that's the only fair way to do this. I was thinking about another rule btw, connected to the draft: It is possibly to draw both members of a tag team at once, though it will of course count as 2 consecutive picks. This will only be allowed for wrestlers who primarily wrestled in tag teams at the time (like The Road Warriors, Harlem Heat or The Smoking Guns) and will not be allowed to be abused to draft eg. Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage or Kevin Nash and Scott Hall at once. This rule is meant to prevent breaking up excellent tag teams who primarily signed for promotions together, like The Road Warriors, The Steiner Brothers, The Nast Boys, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Yeah count me in WCW, should give me no cash concerns as I try and steal a few wrestlers off your battling companies. Though will probably be bagged as it heads backwards with one show and sharing stars with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 What process are you using for the draft, wiki or what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 What process are you using for the draft, wiki or what I'm not sure I understand your question. What do you mean by 'process'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Are we holding the draft on the forum, or creating a wikispace etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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