1991: Rising Storms

[shawnbill5000]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My current goal is to port this forward for 93 and ultimately 99.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Oh man. A 99 mod.I...I....That's......GIMME!</p>

[Dawn]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawnbill5000" data-cite="shawnbill5000" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh man. A 99 mod.I...I....That's......GIMME!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There are two for conversion already <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>

[Mattywood]

Not sure if you took a look at this portion of the mod, but you might want to take a look at the game world, especially Importance and Community. I recall that several Canadian and British areas were very low, which means nobody will care about wrestling, which means you might not be able to recreate SummerSlam 92 in Wembley Stadium.

[justtxyank]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not sure if you took a look at this portion of the mod, but you might want to take a look at the game world, especially Importance and Community. I recall that several Canadian and British areas were very low, which means nobody will care about wrestling, which means you might not be able to recreate SummerSlam 92 in Wembley Stadium.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> A few thoughts.</p><p> </p><p> 1) Was importance of wrestling actually high in the UK/Canada/Europe at this point? Were there any promotions of note that were thriving at a level above say an American indy?</p><p> </p><p> 2) I believe I based the importance stats on the CVerse, which was actually generous in my opinion. </p><p> </p><p> 3) As for the Wembley stadium example, the game doesn't replicate real life to a T. The rarity of big ppv events being held in the UK contributes to the attendance to something like that. If you were setup the gameworld to recreate that attendance for a ppv, that would mean the WWF could pull it that attendance any time they wanted?</p>

[Mattywood]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A few thoughts.<p> </p><p> 1) Was importance of wrestling actually high in the UK/Canada/Europe at this point? Were there any promotions of note that were thriving at a level above say an American indy?</p><p> </p><p> 2) I believe I based the importance stats on the CVerse, which was actually generous in my opinion. </p><p> </p><p> 3) As for the Wembley stadium example, the game doesn't replicate real life to a T. The rarity of big ppv events being held in the UK contributes to the attendance to something like that. If you were setup the gameworld to recreate that attendance for a ppv, that would mean the WWF could pull it that attendance any time they wanted?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I could've sworn I've read people make posts in the Tech Support area about having problems with certain areas. Maybe I misinterpreted their postings. :-/ Maybe have the Minimum be low, Maximum high, and have the starting point low?</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: I could wind up being completely wrong as well. I'm going to test out having a PPV in Wembley Stadium right now. The wrestling community is 45% at the moment, so it might not be as bad as I thought.</p>

[Mattywood]

Ran SummerSlam. Drew over 60,000 at Wembley, and that was with a 45% community in South England. So eff me. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> In other words, disregard the last suggestion I made. ^_^

[Dawn]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ran SummerSlam. Drew over 60,000 at Wembley, and that was with a 45% community in South England. So eff me. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"> In other words, disregard the last suggestion I made. ^_^</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Mine was at the Pontiac Silverdome and had a A* rating. Sold out arena. AWESOME.</p>

[EddieFnG]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Mine was at the Pontiac Silverdome and had a A* rating. Sold out arena. AWESOME.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He brought it up because of a discussion on importance in the UK. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Mattywood]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="EddieFnG" data-cite="EddieFnG" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He brought it up because of a discussion on importance in the UK. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Right, though I have tapped the brakes on that after seeing that Yank has it right. ^_^</p><p> </p><p> Hmmm... I think I'll be running a show at the Silverdome soon. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[RatedRKO16]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="EddieFnG" data-cite="EddieFnG" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He brought it up because of a discussion on importance in the UK. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Dawn]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="EddieFnG" data-cite="EddieFnG" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He brought it up because of a discussion on importance in the UK. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> LOL Sorry then <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"> (?)</p>

[RatedRKO16]

<p>We getting close to the release of 2.2 or 3.0 (whichever you're going to call it)?</p><p> </p><p>

No mean to rush, just curious!</p>

[justtxyank]

Yes.

[justtxyank]

<p>I'm going to go ahead and upload without the movesets finished because I've become so busy at work. I've got quite a few, but not all. Not sure how important they really are to anyone anyway to be honest. </p><p> </p><p>

I've done a lot of changes, tweaked star quality, charisma, etc. </p><p> </p><p>

The only thing I'm really unhappy with statistically is the sex rating for the guys. Too high in general, but I don't think it impacts much for them. </p><p> </p><p>

I had to lower star quality for a lot of guys who BECOME stars later but are not now. I realized Shawn Michaels was at 93 star power, which is crazy for 1991.</p>

[Jaysin]

Excited

[justtxyank]

<p></p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Rising Storms 3.0</strong></p><p> </p><p> Install Notes</p><p> You will need the latest version of nGo to work with this data's picture files. You can find the latest version of the nGo picture pack on page 1 of this thread or at the bottom of this link.</p><p> </p><p> If you previously downloaded nGo and update #1 with my first release, you will need to download updates #2 and #3. (#2 can be found on first post of this thread)</p><p> </p><p> If you previously downloaded nGo and either downloaded update #2 or downloaded the complete pack when Rising Storms 2.0 was released, you only need to download update #3 today. (can be found in this post)</p><p> </p><p> You will need to get updates #4 and #5 to work with V 3.0</p><p> </p><p> If you have not previously downloaded nGo at all, you can use the Complete nGo Pack which includes updates #1-3 (found on page 1 of this thread or above)</p><p> </p><p> If you have nGo from Hive's mod but have NOT downloaded an update from this thread you need to get update #1 #2 #3 #4 and #5(can be found on first page).</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div style="text-align:center;"><div>Release Notes:<p> -WCW dropped to high cult to better reflect their state at this point in time</p><p> -Major statistical reworking</p><p> -Movesets redone from scratch (incomplete at this time)</p><p> -Graphical overhaul</p><p> -Incorporation of the Dallas Add-on data</p><p> -Fixed personality and lifestyle issues</p><p> -Added Japanese wrestling promotions that were not included previously (currently missing logos, will add via nGo update later on)</p><p> -Changes to biographies</p><p> -Fixed title histories</p><p> -Various changes mentioned in thread</p><p> -Reworked physical stats and consistency ratings for older stars</p><p> -Added narratives</p><p> -Reworked eras</p><p></p></div></div><div></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Links:</p><p> <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/download/l3n3ntshxv9uupn/RisingStorms_3.0.7z" rel="external nofollow">Rising Storms 3.0 Data</a></p><p> </p><p> Graphics: </p><p> You will need all updates to the nGo picture pack, including today's release of nGo update#5</p><p> <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/download/ekh8tu7j3gwcwgl/nGo.7z" rel="external nofollow">nGo Complete Pack (Includes updates to #5)</a></p><p> <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/download/xsv18t7ugjd1648/nGo_Update_5.7z" rel="external nofollow">nGo Update #5</a></p><p> <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/download/zauhbobgg85x0rq/nGo_Update_%234.7z" rel="external nofollow">nGo Update#4</a></p></div><p></p>

[justtxyank]

<p>As always, feedback and thoughts requested as I move on to make a 93 mod. </p><p> </p><p>

I also always enjoy hearing stories of how the game went for everyone!</p>

[Dawn]

I'm introducing Monday Night Raw 2 years earlier now after my awesome SummerSlam. I signed Lex Luger from WCW who debuted helping Rick Martel defeat The Warrior. My next ''victims'' are The Steiners, whose contracts are ending too. Then i think that i'm done with signings in 1991.

[justtxyank]

<p>The new eras and narratives should make the game challenging for you from a business perspective without nerfing stats. </p><p> </p><p>

The WWF in particular should have a bit of a challenge for several years. Nothing major, but hopefully it's not smooth sailing. Really looking for feedback from people who play a WWF or WCW game for more than 1 year WITHOUT using the editor to make things easier.</p><p> </p><p>

Trying to get a feel for whether you get to a point where you have to make tough decisions and what not.</p><p> </p><p>

TV in particular is impacted by the eras pretty significantly.</p>

[Mattywood]

<p>While I'm going to keep my current game going, I'm also going to fire up a game with the updated data and see how everything unfolds with everything untouched, left as is. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Looking forward to taking a swim with this! ^_^</p><p> </p><p>

Oh, and good job touching up that WWF Big Event cut I sent you! You did a much better job with it than I could have. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

EDIT: Did the cuts I send you not include the XCW, PCW and ACW logos? :-/</p>

[Dawn]

My complete wrestler roster if anyone is interested (I stealed some names from both Beejus' and TFC's diaries ):

 

Main Eventers: Bret Hart, British Bulldog, Dusty Rhodes, Hulk Hogan, Jake Roberts, Lex Luger, Mr. Perfect, Randy Savage, Ric Flair, Rick Martel, Roddy Piper, Sgt. Slaughter, Steve Austin, Sting, Ted DiBiase, The Ultimate Warrior, The Undertaker.

 

Upper Midcarders: Animal, Arn Anderson, Big Boss Man, Bobby Eaton, Diamond Dallas Page, Earthquake, Haku, Hawk, Jim Duggan, Jim Neidhart, Sid Justice, Smash, Stan Hansen, The Barbarian, The Mountie, The Texas Tornado, Tugboat.

 

Midcarders: 8-Ball, Ax, Brian Knobbs, Brian Pillman, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, El Matador, Greg Valentine, Jerry Sags, Kato, Marty Jannetty, Mike Sharpe, Mil Mascaras, Papa Shango, Pat Tanaka, Ricky Morton, Robert Gibson, Shawn Michaels, Skull, Stan Lane, The Warlord, Tracy Smothers.

 

Lower Midcarders: Brian Christopher, Brooklyn Brawler, California Kip, Chris Benoit, Jeff Jarrett, Ken Shamrock, Koko B. Ware, Owen Hart, Sam Houston, Scott Armstrong, Steve Armstrong, Super Powers, The Dogg

 

Openers: Barry Hardy, Booker T, Chainz, Duane Gill, Max Mini, Scorpio, Stevie Ray, The Tiger Boy

 

Jobbers: La Parka, Scott Taylor, The Supermodel

 

Women's: Alundra Blayze, Candi Devine, Ivory, Jacqueline, Judy Martin, Luna Vachon, Mariko Yoshida, Reggie Bennett, Susan Sexton, Terri Powers, Wendi Richter

 

On Vacation/Injured: Alexei Bakarov, Brutus Beefcake, Jimmy Snuka

 

El Matador = Tito Santana in his 1992/1993 gimmick already, but with a mask. He was on vacation before for this change of gimmick.

 

California Kip = Billy Gunn with his Beejus' diary ring name (), and his DX gimmick.

 

Super Powers = Jim Powers with a gimmick in which he thinks that he's a hero but ends up just jobbing to much of everyone. I'm going to give him and his partner Koko a win over two problematic guys by the end of the year before i shut both of them down. (The guys)

 

The Dogg = Brian Armstrong/Road Dogg with his DX gimmick too. I'm considering teaming Kip and Dogg as The California Outlaws.

 

The Tiger Boy = Johnny Grunge. I gave him this terrible ring name to mock Rocco Rock's WCW gimmick (The Cheetah Kid). When Rocco is shut down by TT and Herd, i'm going to sign him and form The Public Enemy.

 

The Supermodel = Don Callis. It's a play on the supposed team name for the team that he and Rick Martel would form on WWF as Martel said back in 1997, The Supermodels. But something that i forgot happened, according to Martel.

 

Alexei Bakarov = Nikita Koloff with TFC's ring name

 

If i have time to, i'll give more informations today.

 

OOOOH, a thing that i nearly forgot.

 

Departures: Danny Davis, Saba Simba, Nikolai Volkoff, General Adnan, Tony Chimel, Chief Jay Strongbow, Brother Love, Hercules, Paul Roma, Grizzly Smith, Bushwhacker Butch, Bushwhacker Luke, Virgil, Dino Bravo.

[Dawn]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The new eras and narratives should make the game challenging for you from a business perspective without nerfing stats. <p> </p><p> The WWF in particular should have a bit of a challenge for several years. Nothing major, but hopefully it's not smooth sailing. Really looking for feedback from people who play a WWF or WCW game for more than 1 year WITHOUT using the editor to make things easier.</p><p> </p><p> Trying to get a feel for whether you get to a point where you have to make tough decisions and what not.</p><p> </p><p> TV in particular is impacted by the eras pretty significantly.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I only used the editor to change the loyalties and nothing else. I even took off WWF loyalties to give WCW a fair war.</p><p> </p><p> And sorry if i'm overposting in this thread.</p>

[justtxyank]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>While I'm going to keep my current game going, I'm also going to fire up a game with the updated data and see how everything unfolds with everything untouched, left as is. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Looking forward to taking a swim with this! ^_^<p> </p><p> Oh, and good job touching up that WWF Big Event cut I sent you! You did a much better job with it than I could have. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> EDIT: Did the cuts I send you not include the XCW, PCW and ACW logos? :-/</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I must have missed adding them to the update.</p>

[Mattywood]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35547" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I must have missed adding them to the update.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think a few Dallas-based worker cuts were missed too. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[justtxyank]

<p>Hmmmmm</p><p> </p><p>

I wonder if I forgot to add them to the pack.</p><p> </p><p>

Give me the link again the Dallas gfx. </p><p> </p><p>

I'll fix that and reupload the picture files.</p>