Any one interested in a historical mod?

[WECNeverDie]

Hey guys,

 

I noticed the traffic seems to have slowed down a lot the last few months. I'm a huge fan of Adam and his games (Even CBH ) and am massively craving a WMMA4 some day. Anyways I'm thinking the best way to get WMMA4 in production is to raise the activity levels on the board to show our interest in the series.

 

As a long time fan of the TEW series, the first thing I noticed when I looked for mods for WMMA3 was the lack of historical mods (somewhat understandable given the age of MMA itself) in comparision to TEW. Rather than just send out a rallying cry for support for the boards and not back it up with some effort on my own part, I would like to propose a new historical Mod for WMMA3.

 

My Mod making skills are amateur at best though so don't expect Genadi or Tag01 quality off the bat but I do have a pretty good understanding of WMMA3 from numerous playthroughs with Lucien's, Tag's and the Cornellverse Data so I feel comfortable enough with the engine to make an attempt. Advice from other modmakers would be very welcome!

 

The time period I'm looking to start from isn't set in stone at all and I won't be able to start work until the 12th December due to University exams.

 

The time periods I Have in mind are :

1- September 1997 - "Stomps, Soccer Kicks and Powerbombs"- The debut of PRIDE FC

 

2-January 2000- "PRIDE goes Bloodsport"- PRIDE's first GP

 

3-January 2001 - "Assuming Direct Control"- Zuffa purchases the UFC

 

4- January 2005 - "Asparagus, Natural Children & Broken Doors"- TUF Debuts

 

5- February 2006 - "Shamrock vs Some "Gronning" Guy"- Strikeforce enters MMA

 

6- March 2007 - "Murders & Executions" -PRIDE/UFC Merger

 

7- June 2007 - "Brock & Kimbo's Excellent Adventure"- Brock & Kimbo Debut

 

8- June 2008 - "Coming to America" Starring Fedor- Fedor signs with Affliction

 

6&7 should probably count as one as it would be simple enough to convert 6 to 7 but I got a chuckle out 7's Title myself so I'm leaving it in

 

I've set up a poll(hopefully it works first time "fingers crossed") to vote so if you're a long time lurker like I was register and get your vote in as the more people that vote the more pressure on me to do this

 

Hopefully we can kick start some traffic here again as WMMA is a brilliant game and I'd hate to see the community die out for it as it's got some great potential!

 

Ideally I'd like to get permission from Tag or Lucien to use either the Modern Warriors or Dawn of MMA mods as a base to reduce my workload so if any one has any information on how to contact them it would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

Peace out Greydoggers!

 

Éamonn

[Jipper16]

More MODs are always welcomed in my book. The beginning of PRIDE/UFC interests me most but I'm a long term, old school MMA fan.

[drkflow]

I'd Prefer the first one. Good luck with the MOD which ever one you choose, I will be checking it out. Im working on a current Real World mod also TOTT (Tale of the Tape) , im 661 fighters in.

[Griffo]

Definitely the start of Pride, such a pain in the rear trying to get the beginning mod up to there... and then to be able to sign all the right fighters

[Blackman]

<p>Adam already announced WMMA4 as the next title in line (probably nov 2014), so there's that. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

But good that the mod community remains active. I don't really play 'real' db's because I always have issues with the stats. It's subjective anyway. TEW's WWE mods are more accurate because they get a LOT more exposure, instead of just 10- fights.</p>

[Cable]

With the semiofficial announcement of a WMMA4 Ive begun working on a new historical mod from scratch based on the beginning of UFC (which can easily be tweaked to get up to the beginning of Pride) since Dawn of MMA is so old, has some errors that bother me, and lacks continued support. However I have only been focused on the Fighters as I know little about the other aspects like regions and PPV/TV as when I play I usually just nerf everything to run a fantasy game exactly how I want. I've just begun putting in all the basic biographical/record/weight details of the fighters and hope to by next year begin the hard work of distributing the stats, testing, and balancing the fighters. I'd be happy to give away and/or adjust the roster for anyone who wants to build the rest of the mod that will make it work.

[WECNeverDie]

<p>PRIDE FC Debut it is! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Right so. We have a winner with the PRIDE FC debut!!! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Database will have a similar structure to the Dawn of MMA Mod with fighters debuting around the time they join one of the more notable companies. Should be a good starting point for anyone creating mods from this point on so when it's released anyone should feel free to use it.</p><p> </p><p>

It's my own personal view that this game doesn't work so well with regional level companies as fighters can join pound for pound lists by beating scrubs, so ,in general, Low Level National will be the cut off point for companies (In my experience this also helps offset the lack of AI events a bit). Exceptions will be made for companies where, whilst not being a big company they housed several elite talents (Shooto(YMMV on their popularity level), Invicta Etc.)</p><p> </p><p>

I'll set up a new thread with more details for the mod in the next few days. In the meantime write anything you would like to see in the mod here. Opinions on where certain top tier fighters in terms of name value and/or rankings should lie would be valued to get a sense of how you all would like the mod to be( I reserve the right to dictatorship however <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) and give me a ceiling to work back from.</p><p> </p><p>

Guys like Rickson, Ken, Royce, Takada, Coleman, Frye, Severn, Rutten, Frank.</p><p>

In My own view Takada was by far and away the biggest name in MMA at the time(Strictly in Japan) whilst Royce & Ken were the most noteworthy fighters in America at the time. I'm planning on having Ken out with a max length injury at the start of the mod to simulate his time in Pro wrestling. As a result of this his name value will be set to a level consistent with his popularity on his return to MMA in 2000 (Highest name value in America)</p><p> </p><p>

As a result of MMA being in it's infancy at the time it's generally difficult to get a solid consensus on rankings in and around the time so if you have any views they would be welcome.</p><p> </p><p>

Also slightly controversial on this one but what are people's views on Pancrase fights on guy's records (Keep them all, leave out early pancrase fight or leave them out altogether?)</p><p> </p><p>

Anything you'd like to see in the mod? anything you'd like done differently to other mods? (Name Values, Reputation, TV Channels Etc.) </p><p> </p><p>

Looking forward to hearing from you all! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[rizzhizz]

Just so you know, I am 80% of the way or more to getting a Jan 2001 Mod ready for a release, I have retro fitted a Modern Warriors Mod and added fighters as I go along, I am hoping for a Jan 2014/Feb 2014 release or at least a Beta for then

[Munit]

This is awesome. Is there custom fighters like Mike Tyson, Floyd, etc etc in it? Sorta like as real as it gets

[rizzhizz]

I have not included any fighters like that in the mod, I will have added somewhere in the region of 600-700 fighters by the end (there will be over 3,500 fighters in it) with the aim of having a fairly full game world in 2001 to present day, I don't want the data to be fighter light up to say 2005, so I am adding fighters as I go to hopefully enrich the game play. My system to do this is fairly comprehensive, but obviously all stats are my personal views, so the first release will need as much feedback as possible for fighters stats and play ability.

[RatedRKO16]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="rizzhizz" data-cite="rizzhizz" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37149" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just so you know, I am 80% of the way or more to getting a Jan 2001 Mod ready for a release, I have retro fitted a Modern Warriors Mod and added fighters as I go along, I am hoping for a Jan 2014/Feb 2014 release or at least a Beta for then</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How is this coming along? <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Wayne28]

Would love to get a PRIDE game with a 2000 or 2001 mod